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An update on this story. "Two Local Men Planned September 11, 2005 Terror Attack," from KFI640.com, with thanks to LB:
Two men recently arrested on suspicion of committing armed robberies in Torrance and Fullerton were Muslim converts who are now suspected of planning a variety of jihad-inspired terror attacks around Los Angeles, including one scheduled for September 11, 2005, KFI NEWS has learned.Gregory Vernon Patterson, 21, and Levar Haney Washington, 25, planned to shoot up a military recruiting station in Santa Monica and at least one other civilian target, a high-ranking federal law enforcement source confirmed recently.
“The intent was to kill everyone at the target, including civilians,” the source said.
Both men have been in jail since July 5 when they were arrested by Torrance police, suspected in at least two armed robberies, according to authorities....
A search of Washington’s West 27th St. apartment turned up Jihadi literature, military equipment, knives, maps of Southern California, news stories on Muslims’ efforts to recruit young African American men for the holy war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and a target list, according to the source and other news reports.
Posted by Robert at August 16, 2005 10:17 AM
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one's a prison convert, courtesy of the California Correctional System Madrassa.
profiling will soon to be a moot point.
many times we make sacastic remarks about the terrorists being Methodists or Norwegians. that particular literary technique may not be available to us for much longer.
i would be very interested in a poll among
"we few, we proud, we band of brothers and sisters" regarding everyones views on the possibility of the War on Islam ending up as a shooting war on the streets of the West, involving "Everyman" and the rank and file of ordinary citizens.
on the one hand, i don't think the demographics make it viable for the islamofascists, there just aren't enough of them yet, despite the disproportionate number of problems they create.
on the other hand though, the very concepts of guerilla warfare are designed for a force, inferior in arms, numbers, and strength, to be able to level the field against superior forces and turn the opponents strengths into weaknesses. guerillas don't have to win, they win by not losing, they win by just surviving. guerilla warfare is far more about inflicting economic damage than military, and i can't think of too many countries more vulnerable to economic warfare than the US.
despite 9/11 being a screaming success from the islamofascists point of view, especially the symbolic value of destroying what the WTC stood for, imagine if they had targeted Port Newark, or the Port of San Diego. while working at Ellis Island, i had to take the NJ TPKE extension, which is elevated as it passes over literally square miles of container-shipping containers. a blind man can see the potential. i think they check about 1 in 1000.
at August 16, 2005 11:33 AM
t-ham:
In case Robert doesn't see fit to post this story which appeared in this morning's Globe & Mail re: a Chinese Canadian Muslim-convert jihadist-wannabe, who was, curiously enough, turned over to the authorities by an imam who has been outed by his congregation for among other things, calling Jews apes and pigs. No charges were laid, but they took away the lunatic's guns. Article speaks volumes as to the type of people who are converting to the world's fastest growing religion. Clearly, profiling strictly on ethnic lines is not going to work, but I'd humbly suggest that a combination of converting to Islam and a fascination with firearms should set off alarm bells.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050816
Posted by: waterdragon52
at August 16, 2005 12:50 PM
waterdragon52 said "No charges were laid, but they took away the lunatic's guns."
And if he is not a convicted felon, there is no legal way to stop him from getting his guns back, getting more, buying mass quantities of fertilizer + fuel oil, etc. Our legal system is based not on reading the intentions inside somebody's head, but on waiting for them to take violent action, and then arresting them.
"profiling strictly on ethnic lines is not going to work"
This has been clear since John Walker Lindh, Jose Padilla, Richard Reid, etc. Deporting "the Arabs" is not the solution; our enemy is inside the mind of these nutjobs, and again we have no simple way of detecting their intentions. That is why I think we have to punish so harshly those people who take actions to support the jihadists. We shouldn't punish based on ethnicity or religion, but the second they start making terrorist threats in the mosques or contribute funds, we should come down on them like a ton of C4. Instead, our government turns a blind eye while our leaders deceive us.
Posted by: special_guest
at August 16, 2005 2:06 PM
damned. The link doesn't seem to work and I can't paste the article in because the cybercensor software is triggered by the gun references. Apparently he's been banned from purchasing guns for the next three years and was turned down by the courts when he made application to have his weapons returned. I know this doesn't stop him from purchasing bomb making materials, but presumably, he will be watched and so will any of his friends.
The article is available for free on globeandmail.com, but you have to register.
Diehard found with Arsenal
Colin Freeze
August 16, 2005
Globe & Mail
at August 16, 2005 2:58 PM
I'm surprized these holy,holy, murderers haven't targeted hollywood yet, isn't that the main source of thier angst? All those bikini clad females driving them to a religious frenzy..I know that LAX was a target of of the "millenium bomber" and LA is certainly a west coast's commerce center. Perhaps they're afraid of the wrath of Chevy Chase and Micheal Moore!
Posted by: kevin
at August 16, 2005 4:20 PM
Thanks, waterdragon52. But clicking on the URL just gives a bunch of null pointer exceptions. A search on globeandmail.com doesn't show any story about this in the past 30 days. Let me guess: the biggest shareholder for Globe & Mail is located in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia? Some editor probably just lost his/her job for letting the story momentarily slip through the censors. /paranoia. Anyways, the MSM again shows its value.
Posted by: special_guest
at August 16, 2005 4:27 PM
Actually, so far as I know, the biggest shareholder in the G & M is the Thomsen Corporation and the cybercensor culprit is here at my undisclosed office location, not the G & M. If you want to read the full piece, just register on line at globeandmail.com. (The story originated with a Richmond BC paper that and the G & M picked it up.)
Posted by: waterdragon52
at August 16, 2005 4:39 PM
Criminals convert to Islam and conspire to commit more criminal acts. How appropriate, considering the first Muslim was nothing more than a criminal himself. It's obvious to me, why don't others see that? Why do we still believe in the "Islam is Peace" crap?
Interesting, kevin, re hollywood. If they hit that, would people finally wake up and smell the coffee? Afterall, it seems that when bad stuff happens to famous people, it's the only time things get noticed and get done. If we deprived people of really important things, like their television programs and films, maybe then they'll realise that Islam wants to muck up their lives big time.
Or will they just blame Bush and Israel?
Posted by: feralee
at August 16, 2005 10:30 PM
Feralee, of course they would blame Bush and our presence in Iraq and our "foreign policy" (whatever the hell THAT is). Israel, maybe.
Waterdragon52: That's interesting about the Chinese Canadian. I thought Canada had enacted some VERY serious gun possession laws about a year or two ago. I heard they were so harsh that many long-time hunters were cashing in. Can you enlighten, please?
Posted by: texan
at August 16, 2005 10:47 PM
Hmmm, "...planned to shoot up a military recruiting station in Santa Monica...". This fits right in with a Code Pink demonstration, where they show up with flag draped coffins at Military Recruitment Centers.
Posted by: Jabba the Tutt
at August 17, 2005 7:33 AM
Texan:
Canada has probably always had more restrictive firearms laws than the US. What was introduced a few years ago were more extensive requirements on firearms owners to register all firearms, long and short. And, presumably, they do more stringent screenings of applicants for acquisition permits.
Motivation for tighter controls arose from incidents in the 1990s, including the killing of 14 female engineering students in Montreal by a berserk half-Muslim and a soldier who held the Quebec legislature hostage.
I cannot speak as to how onerus the requirements are. What has raised the ire of many people is that the costs of this registry have gone way out of control, far exceeding the amount budgeted.
Posted by: waterdragon52
at August 17, 2005 9:03 AM
Kevin;
re; hollyweird
A common misconception. While they may object to sex,drugs, and rock&roll, the primary "sin" in their eyes is that which we are most proud of, the separation of church and state. To obey man-made laws and government is to "assign partners to allah". If you obey man's laws, you are turning your back on allah, which is heresy, and if you are a muslim, apostasy.
Go a bit deeper and the underlying grievance is just that we ain't muslim, and so we are the target of the expansion of islam, until all the earth is Dar-es-Islam.
Posted by: t-ham
at August 17, 2005 11:10 AM
resc: there is another sinister feature to this. The US has notoriously the highest prison population per head of population in the free world. in most of continental Europe, for instance, the prison population tends to be one per thousand citizens; in Britain it is something like one per nine hundred; in the US it is almost one per three hundred, a total of something like one million people in jail at any given time. The savage penal practices of the US and its very high crime rate may well turn out to have been major threats to the country itself, forming whole classes of misfits among whom Muslim predication of the most extreme kind finds easy footing.
Posted by: Paolo
at August 18, 2005 3:42 PM


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