Wonder what Gerry Adams will say.

Posted by: Zico at August 19, 2005 8:37 PM

WTH are muslims doing in Ireland in the first place? Talk about fish out of water.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at August 19, 2005 8:40 PM

Carolyn:

I'm sure St. Patrick is rolling over in his grave.

Posted by: 3812Michelle at August 19, 2005 9:05 PM

My Irish relatives are generally easy going and know how to have a good time. But, there is that other side to them....remember, the fighting Irish. The Muslims better remember that and keep their bombs and Islamic rules far away from the Guiness factory.

Posted by: maryrose at August 19, 2005 9:10 PM

Muslims in Ireland!!! Thats a news to me... I've been to the Northern Ireland jus once, even there the Muslims are minuscle and barely visible. But i do hope if the muslims do stirr up trouble, IRA and the Unionists shuld gang up on 'em. Jehadis, they got propah fighters there so watch ya back.

Posted by: Vikrant_Camberleykar at August 19, 2005 9:20 PM

Hmmm, you'd be surprised, the influx of EU agicultural subsidies and the booming economy have given the formerly tough-as-nails Irish people a very soft underbelly. My great grandparents left during the potato famine. But I was there last September (during the Beslan tragedy) and was surprised by the strongly anti-American press and TV, and the generally socialistic nature of society. One work-welfare program required people to work 20 hours a week doing weed whacking and mowing. The notice for this program said it was looking for "the special skills of the underemployed." Uh-huh, very special skills indeed, those. We don't want anybody feeling less than special, do we?

Ireland is having serious growing pains from its booming economy, the real estate is incredibly expensive. It also has a growing African (Somalis and others) population which readily avails itself of the generous welfare system. There was an article in the paper while I was there about the need to accomodate the immigrant women, who want female doctors to attend to them in the free socialized medical care system. The Irish are sadly pretty racist, so there are definitely conflicts going on there.

Posted by: kelley at August 19, 2005 11:21 PM

According to this idiots koranic logic, the west has the right to flatten the entire muslim world as Islamic terrorists from all sectors of Allah Land have been striking the west for several decades now. hmmmm...

Come on people of the UK, how long are you going to put up with this kind of BS. His thtreats are as explicit as they come and if any terrorist attack occurs on Irish soil, this man should be held personally responsible.

A solicitor heh? I bet he only has the brain power to process asylum seeker applications. At any rate, this man should be immediately barred from practicing law and thrown out of the country for inciting sedition.

Posted by: William The Crusader at August 19, 2005 11:34 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/19/taliban.documents/index.html

U.S., Taliban bargained over bin Laden, documents show
Declassified State Department papers detail 1998 meetings

Friday, August 19, 2005; Posted: 10:21 p.m. EDT (02:21 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- During secret meetings with U.S. officials in 1998, top Taliban officials discussed assassinating or expelling Osama bin Laden in response to al Qaeda's deadly bombings of U.S. embassies in Africa, according to State Department documents.

The newly declassified documents, posted Thursday on the National Archives Web site, provide a fascinating glimpse into U.S. diplomacy exerted on Afghanistan's ruling Taliban -- a regime officially unrecognized by Washington -- nearly three years before the September 11, 2001, al Qaeda attacks on the United States.

According to the documents, the deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan, Alan Eastham Jr., met with Wakil Ahmed, a close aide to Taliban leader Mullah Omar, in November and December 1998. That was just months after the August al Qaeda attacks that killed more than 200 people at the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

"It is unbelievable that this small man did this to you," Ahmed said during their meeting on December 19, 1998, according to the documents.

Ahmed told Eastham that he spoke with Omar about bin Laden and that the Taliban still considered the Saudi exile "innocent."
Talk of assassination

During a meeting between Ahmed and Eastham on November 28, 1998, just days after the Taliban's supreme court cleared bin Laden of terrorist activities, Ahmed said one possibility "would be for the U.S. to kill him or arrange for bin Laden to be assassinated."

Ahmed "said that the U.S., if it chose to do so, could arrange to have bin Laden killed by cruise missiles or other means, and there would be little the Taliban could do to prevent it," according to the documents.

Another alternative, Ahmed said, would be for the United States to provide the Taliban with cruise missiles to have "the situation resolved in this way." Ahmed also noted that expelling bin Laden likely would result in the Taliban regime being overthrown, according to the documents.

And while Ahmed suggested a possible assassination of bin Laden, he also "urged the U.S. not to bomb Afghanistan again" as Washington did in the weeks following the embassy bombings. Ahmed "asked instead for a new U.S. proposal aimed at resolving the matter," the documents said.

Posted by: morguerat at August 20, 2005 12:44 AM

There are Muslims all over Ireland, and not only in the main cities. Kissing the Blarney Stone may still be fun, but what is the old gift of the gab compared to the sly taqiyya and kitman that comes naturally off the Muslim tongue, from Dun Laoghaire to County Galway.

The pronounced pro-Arab bias in the Irish press has not helped prepare the populace to comprehend Islam, and the Jihad. The coverage of the Lesser Jihad -- the relentless Arab Muslim campaign to destroy the Infidel state of Israel -- has been largely ill-informed about the history of the area, and unjust, even outrageous, in the way events are covered. That distinguished early Zionist, Michael Collins, would have had a word about that.

Like everyone else in Western Europe, the people of Ireland have been largely ignorant of Islam, even as they allowed Muslim migrants into their lands. Or if not ignorant, they have been largely indifferent, or still worse, been convinced by the biased coverage that it is the Muslims who have been wronged here, there, and everywhere; if every Israeli attempt to defend the country against the Jihad (imperfectly recognized by the Israelis themselves) is the subject of misrepresentation and attack, no wonder that the absurd belief that the Muslims have been ill-treated comes to be believed; this in turn encourages appeasement.

Dark Rosaleen is an attractive girl when asleep, but she can be even prettier when awake. Possibly Choudary will, inadvertently, help.

Posted by: Hugh at August 20, 2005 12:51 AM

IRA forever!

Posted by: A.G.Frederick III at August 20, 2005 2:05 AM

Paddy O'Bakri?

Seamus McAtta?

(For all my relatives from Cork, I think I'm going to puke.)

I thought all the snakes were driven OUT of Ireland?

Now they're driving them IN?

HISS!

Posted by: BigSleep at August 20, 2005 2:14 AM

Perhaps Islamic invasion is what's needed to unite the Irish...??

Posted by: Terminator at August 20, 2005 6:14 AM

Anjem Choudary is an example of a Muslim who was once secular and westernized who has since become a fundamentalist. At university he liked to be called 'Andy' , drank cider and smoked pot. He was and probably still is the head or joint head of a group called Islamic Lawyers Association, or words to that effect. Apparently this is inspite of the fact that he had not being a practising lawyer for quite a while.

Posted by: Elephant at August 20, 2005 7:19 AM

Of course, it might be churlish of me to point to that were there no Moslems in Ireland, they wouldn't have much to worry about.

Posted by: Seymour Paine at August 20, 2005 9:23 AM

Paddy O'Bakri?

Seamus McAtta?
-- from a posting above

Well, there is a Mexican painter named Juan O'Gorman. There is an Israeli journalist named Aryeh O'Sullivan. There is a French wine called Haut-Brion which does not disguise its O'Brien original. So theoretically it is possible.

But you are right. Islam is not a good mixer. Whatever the other elements that may blend together harmoniously in some divine liquefaction or melting-pot, Islam refuses. For it must refuse; it is based entirely on a world-view that uncompromisingly sets Believer apart from, superior to, would-be conqueror of, all Infidels, and all the lands that they temporarily may dominate.

Islam is like those determinedly immiscible liquids with which Pierre Matisse (grandson of the painter, a gallery owner in New York, and an early champion of Balthus) used to make interesting objets d'art, locking those liquids up inside glass, and then you would twist them, first this way, and then that.

That creation of Pierre Matisse was inspired, and fun. Islam in the Lands of the Infidels creates a situation that is not inspired, and that is not fun.

Posted by: Hugh at August 20, 2005 11:51 AM

"Islamic cleric says Ireland is a 'legitimate target'

Terminator sez:

"Islamic cleric's are legitimate targets..."

Posted by: Terminator at August 20, 2005 12:13 PM

Jihadeean, go gcreime scata Fomhórach ólta do ghrianán rúnda!!

Posted by: otterfisher at August 20, 2005 1:33 PM

They STILL don't get it. The message refers to the fact that Ireland is allowing the passage of American military planes for the justification of becoming a target. Today it is this reason. Tomorrow for Ireland, or any other country, the justification will be any thwarting of the goals of Islam. The main goal is universal triumphalism.

This isn't rocket science. One piece at a time, the earth be swallowed up by this ideology IF we don't wake up and take decisive action.

Posted by: epg at August 21, 2005 5:40 AM

Does it not strike anyone the least bit odd that people who are forbidden alcohol would go to a country reknowned for its drinking. Wake up Irish, they don't know or care about the difference between a Catholic and a Protestant. They don't care if the north is part of England or Ireland, they want it to be part of Mecca. If they take over, they'll make Oliver Cromwell look like St Patrick.

Posted by: Balrog at August 22, 2005 11:00 AM