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The headline of this story in The Australian (thanks to Eric) is "Bashir condemns Bali bombings." It is dispiriting to note that some people are so willing, indeed so anxious, to be fooled, that they will take this condemnation at face value -- despite the fact that Bashir is in jail for the 2002 Bali bombings, which he has praised as jihad victories.
HARDLINE Indonesian Muslim cleric Abu Bakar Bashir, who is imprisoned for his role in the 2002 Bali bombings, today condemned the weekend blasts on the resort island."I really disapprove of bombings in non-conflict areas for whatever reason, including in Bali, because it can be almost certain that innocent and unknowing victims would fall," Bashir said.
In the written comments released by his lawyer after he visited the cleric in jail, Bashir said he was particularly saddened if such attacks claimed the lives of "people whose religion is Islam".
He advised the injured victims and the families of those who died in Saturday's triple suicide attacks, "to accept this fate from Allah".
He also advised the Indonesian Government to "approach closer to Allah" by practising God's law as best as it can.
"These saddening incidents, in essence, are warnings, scolding from Allah to us all who are not respecting his sharia (Islamic religious laws)," he said.
Posted by Robert at October 4, 2005 7:32 AM
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B 4 Beievers, B 4 Bashir & B 4 Bastards. B 4 Brief description.
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at October 4, 2005 8:35 AM
Unfortunately the Bali bombings can have tragic repercussions for not only the West but for Indonesia as well.
Bring back the rack and add a decade or two onto this Allahfool's sentence, just to sweeten his song (lol).
Posted by: dgene at October 4, 2005 8:46 AM
This smug murderous bastard deserves his meeting with Allah right now & then some - in my opinion.
We have to start extreme preventative direct action against these people - the leaders, the voices, the instigators, the enablers, the financiers & the apologists for Jihad. It is the only way forward. How do we negotiate with them, given their absolute belief in an absolute doctrine that is diametrically opposed to a Western democratic lifestyle?
It is the only policy they will respond to.
The velvet lined kid glove with a green ribbon of solidarity attached approach is making them worse - like a child who gets all it wants by stamping its feet & making demands, the more you pander, the more they do it, the more they achieve.
This is war, whether the leaders in the West acknowledge it or not, a war to the death with Islamic Fascism.
All they have is violence, all we have to respond is no leaders, dhimmitude, surrender & timidity.
We have completely lost all self belief in our values, heritage & culture in the West. This has been picked at ferociously by "moderate" Muslims in the West & they see a final victory for Islam as only a matter of time.
A victory for moderate Islam is a victory for militant Islam & vice versa.
I am resigned to the fact that I will be fighting a civil war against Islamic Fascism on the streets of England within a decade.
On this day, my countries flag, the Cross of St George, has been banned for being racist. With a UK Government like this, who can deny that it will be down to the English people at street level to defend our country, heritage & values?
I'm constantly mildly annoyed now.
Posted by: albion at October 4, 2005 9:02 AM
the Cross of St George, has been banned for being racist
Has it? Where did you see that?
Posted by: Interested at October 4, 2005 10:05 AM
yea... albion where did ya see that?
Posted by: Vikrant_Camberleykar at October 4, 2005 10:42 AM
I have a feeling Albion may have been referring to this, (though there seems to be a similar one every day now),
Posted by: And did those feet? at October 4, 2005 10:56 AM
Who gives a %#$@ what Bashir thinks? Why is the opinion of a murderous terrorist being published in the Australian anyway?
Posted by: helox at October 4, 2005 11:16 AM
Greetings one & all,
Yes, I have read it in several dailies here in the UK today - as well as receiving 73 emails from my unusual suspects crew on this topic.
As the Prison Service is a Civil Service Employer, it is only a matter of time before the Cross of St George is banned from all Civil Service Offices & Workplaces.
Of course, Civil Servants are positively encouraged to wear the "Hamas Green" ribbons of Muslim solidarity - their future career depends on their compliance.
Posted by: albion at October 4, 2005 11:20 AM
Of course, six weeks before the bombings, he gave an interview that was a bit more warlike...and honest.
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=2&subID=46
Posted by: PJ at October 4, 2005 11:29 AM
As the Prison Service is a Civil Service Employer, it is only a matter of time before the Cross of St George is banned from all Civil Service Offices & Workplaces.
This is pretty much already the case Albion. My friend works for the jobcentre and was told to remove a picture of Homer Simpson wearing a union flag because the flag may cause offence to some claimants.
He'd already been reprimanded for having the nerve to question why, when interviewing a woman who was claiming unemployment benefit, he had to converse with the husband and not the woman herself. He was told that the man considered it an affront that his wife should indulge in conversation infront of him and that all communication must be made through him.
Makes you proud...
at October 4, 2005 11:33 AM
Quite a lot of muslims here are a bit more than pissed off here,because of this lastest bombimg.
There is a term that is beginning to appear,people are using the phrase "Muslim Hitam" to describe skum like Bashir.
The timing of this bombing,was very bad for the radicals,because on the same day of bombings the price of fuel went up 80%,and a lot of the locals are linking the fuel is connected to Bali-2
I am afraid I can not provide any links to these,as this is from street-level,and the chat in the villages,but all the same it is intresting that many people here are slowly developing a dislike to Bashir and his evil brood
at October 4, 2005 11:48 AM
Here's another story to get you going this evening...
Posted by: And did those feet? at October 4, 2005 12:09 PM
Regarding Sharia, from yesterday's frontpagemag.com, an interesting perspective from Paul Marshall of Freedom House, the organization that outed the Saudis for dissemination of hatred in US mosques, on the distinction between Sharia (as most Muslims understand it) vs. "extreme Sharia".
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19670
Marshall's underlying point is that although many Muslims favour governance under some form of Sharia, they aren't necessarily voting for extreme punishments such as stoning adulterers or amputating the hands of theives, etc.
Marshall says that Sharia is not a body of "law" as westerners would understand it, but rather more in the mold of Jewish "laws" re: life that extend to everything from criminal and civil law issues to dietary restrictions, etc.
Posted by: waterdragon52 at October 4, 2005 12:33 PM
PJ, you wrote:
"Of course, six weeks before the bombings, he gave an interview that was a bit more warlike.. and honest."
Thanks for the link PJ. Too bloody right he was honest!
The buck toothed rat said:
"There is no [example] of Islam and infidels, the right and the wrong, living together in peace."
If only Jack Straw would read and UNDERSTAND this!
Posted by: Anthony at October 4, 2005 12:54 PM
All it takes is a bullet through his forehead once he gets released, and send him to his raisins in the firepit. Let Allah win that one. All praise and thanks for sending millions to Aceh province, and next time an act of nature like that befalls Indonesia, its time to tell our leaders not to give any aid whatsoever, and make the Indonesians go cap in hand to Saudi Arabia etc.
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at October 4, 2005 1:27 PM
Oops, the word "win" in the above posting should be "will".
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at October 4, 2005 1:28 PM
Robert, Hugh et al:
Here is an interesting story (recently posted at LGF). It's an interview with Bashir featuring some very choice quotes:
"They have to stop fighting Islam. That's impossible because it is sunnatullah [destiny, a law of nature], as Allah has said in the Koran. If they want to have peace, they have to accept to be governed by Islam."
"We'll see. As long as there is no intention to fight us and Islam continues to grow there can be peace. This is the doctrine of Islam. Islam can't be ruled by others. Allah's law must stand above human law. There is no [example] of Islam and infidels, the right and the wrong, living together in peace."
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=2&subID=46&p=2
Posted by: johnb at October 4, 2005 1:59 PM
Bashir is not the only one who dissaproves of this act of Allah, but is Bali a non-conflict area? I thought ABB was in prison for conspiracy to turn Bali into a war zone in 2002.
Posted by: islamophobic pride at October 4, 2005 8:00 PM
I'm tempted to put on a bumper sticker:
So ya wanna be a Shaheed?
Let us help you.
at October 4, 2005 8:31 PM
Kepha:
How about:
"Helping Shaheeds to meet 72 virgins..." ??
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at October 4, 2005 9:02 PM
Insects like Bashir come right out and tell us exactly what they think of us and give us explicit details about their agenda, and yet we still run around in denial. Our own PM, said that he rejects the idea that Muslims and non-Muslims cannot live together in peace. I suppose that's just diplomacy and he has to say things like that, to keep the peace at home. But it's just frustrating. Especially given the "peace" in our cities, like Sydney, in Muslim neighbourhoods. We're not blind, we know what goes on.
The article says he "condemns" the bombing in Bali, which sound very strong, but his words are pretty lukewarm in my view. His only problem seems to be with the fact that Muslims died. No disapproval of non-Muslims being killed. And then he goes on about ... well, just accept it as the will of allah. Ho hum.
And now, to commemorate Ramadan, that scum will have his sentence reduced yet again. He already got a 4.5 month reduction to celebrate Indonesia's Independence Day in August. Now, another month reduced. What a slap in the face!
Posted by: feralee at October 4, 2005 11:14 PM
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