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As part of its consideration of the Saudi Arabia Accountability Act, about which I wrote here and here, the Senate will finally get around to looking into the Freedom House report on Saudi hate literature in American mosques, which was only issued last January. From the New York Sun, with thanks to Ruth King:
WASHINGTON - The American government is demanding that Saudi Arabia account for its distribution of hate material to American mosques, as the State Department pressed Saudi officials for answers last week and as the Senate later this month plans to investigate the propagation of radical Wahhabism on American shores.The flurry of activity comes months after a report from the Center for Religious Freedom discovered that dozens of mosques in major cities across the country, including New York, Washington, and Los Angeles, were distributing documents, bearing the seal of the government of Saudi Arabia, that incite Muslims to acts of violence and promote hatred of Jews and Christians.
A Washington-based group that is part of the human rights organization Freedom House, the Center for Religious Freedom also found during its yearlong study that the Saudi-produced materials describe democracy and America as un-Islamic. They instruct recent Muslim immigrants to consider Americans as enemies and the materials urge new arrivals to use their time here as preparation for jihad. The documents also promote the version of Islam officially embraced by Saudi government and several of the September 11, 2001, hijackers, Wahhabism, as the only authentic Islam.
In response to the Freedom House report and as part of the Saudi Arabia Accountability Act of 2005 sponsored by Senator Specter, a Republican of Pennsylvania, the Judiciary Committee - of which Senator Specter is chairman - will be holding hearings into the hate materials on October 25, a spokesman for the senator, William Reynolds, said yesterday.
The Accountability Act, introduced in June, says its purpose is "to halt Saudi support for institutions that fund, train, incite, encourage, or in any other way aid and abet terrorism, and to secure fully Saudi cooperation in the investigation of terrorist incidents." The legislation is highly critical of the House of Saud for its support of terrorist activity and cites the January Freedom House report as evidence of the kingdom's complicity in the spread of radical Islamist ideology. As part of the Accountability Act, Senator Specter has in the past held Judiciary Committee hearings into Saudi financing of terrorism and Saudi Arabia's role in injecting ideology into textbooks for Palestinian Arab schoolchildren.
Posted by Robert at October 5, 2005 6:00 PM
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a full 9 months after the apalling freedom house report and a freakin' 4 yrs+ after 9/11, the senate comes around to doing its job....
Says more about the state of things right now that many're happy its 'better late than never' rather than outraged it took so bloody long in the first place....
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at October 5, 2005 6:13 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if a bit of Saudi oil money is thrown at the pollies to help "lubricate" an outcome!
Posted by: 3rdtimelucky at October 5, 2005 6:17 PM
And how old will we all be before we see similar proceeding in England or anywhere else in the EU?
Posted by: philiph35 at October 5, 2005 6:17 PM
And how old will we all be before we see similar proceedings in England or anywhere else in the EU?
Posted by: philiph35 at October 5, 2005 6:17 PM
The Saudis are distributing "hate materials?" Where's the proof? This comes as a complete shock to me...
Posted by: jsla at October 5, 2005 7:21 PM
Well, the fact that there are going to be hearings is good news. Now it's up to some Senate staffers to put together a dog and pony show that will get the senator(s) and the party some good publicity.
If the Democrats are smart (a very big if, and don't hold your breath), they will try to outmaneuver the Republicans by moving to the right on this issue. It's a safe one for them, because the liberals have nowhere else to go if they are not satisfied. These hearings will, instead, be a test of how much the Democratic left wants to protect islam, which is the only religion the left gives a damn about, their fling with Buddhism never having made it out of Hollywood. And, of course, they think yoga is just exercise anyway, to go along with their vegetarianism.
For the Republicans, this is a balancing test of their sincerity regarding their expressed values of national security and patriotism, versus First Amendment guarantees of freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion.
Don't look for direct Saudi influence here, because you won't find it. Look for the NGO and commercial "cut-outs" like CAIR and domestic civil rights groups, who will be touting the Saudi line. The interesting part will be whether any "freedom of religion" groups turn out to be the same ones that insisted that displays of the Ten Commandments be removed from our courthouses.
Senator Arlen Specter is (IMHO) a rather liberal Republican. He is getting long in the tooth, having served (then as a Representative in the House) on the Warren Commission (1964)investigating President Kennedy's assassination.
One day for hearings is not enough to do much of anything. They need the whole week, at least.
at October 5, 2005 7:22 PM
Isnt this going to be a dance of deceit - the Saudi bastards and their target bribees, the Wahington establishment and everyone else who has been bought and sold and awash in our petrodollars - from Jimmy Carter to Bush senior.
Prince Turki, a 9/11 enabler, former Saudi secret service head, former ambassador to Britain, now ambassador to the U.S. will doubtless be involved, and now that Prince Alwaleed also owns a piece of Fox, no doubt that group will make some interesting reportage.
Who is there to trust ?
Posted by: dgene at October 5, 2005 8:54 PM
How much is there, really, to investigate?
The mosques were caught red-handed distributing the hate literature/propaganda against America. These mosques were run by Saudi Arabia's hard-core Islamic, Wahabi faction (as in fact most US mosques ARE). How it is the Feds had no idea this was going on is beyond our comprehension. A kindergarten student could have figured any of this out...
These mosque leaders who are in fact responsible for production of and distribution of the hate literature against America were doing this per general orders issued by 'Mahomet', Islam's alleged 'founder,' through his supposedly inviolable writings in the Qur'an as dictated to him by the Arabian moon-god, Al-lah.
There! We can now spend US $60 million or thereabouts to come up with the same answers in some federal investigation.
Posted by: pythagoras at October 5, 2005 9:49 PM
What are we to do about the Saudi ruling family?
I have heard the anger but there is not any easy answer.
1.Stop buying their oil? (next answer!)
2.Replace them with islamist non royals who don't even pretend to be our allies?
3.Invade Saudi Arabia and replace the royals with the Clintons?
How about a serious solution. Use the weapon of the west..SCIENCE. Find a replacement for petroleum fuel and in the interim explore our own petroleum resources. There is as much a chance of this happening as answers 1 thru 3.
at October 5, 2005 10:27 PM
"The Accountability Act, introduced in June, says its purpose is "to halt Saudi support for institutions that fund, train, incite, encourage, or in any other way aid and abet terrorism."
That would narrow it down to.........all of them.
Posted by: DCWatson at October 5, 2005 10:56 PM
Ofcourse the Senate couldn`t adress this problem earlier,for the senators are bussy with other,more important matters,that require more immediate action...such as the use of steroids by baseball players,and other crucial issues of that nature.
I have lost my faith in president Bush some time ago,based on his reluctance in adressing the border problem,and now,after the Meyers fiasco i have lost faith in the whole establishment,as a viable entity...we knew for a long time that the liberals are not competent or willing to defend our country,and now we learn that the conservatives are no better...in other words,it looks like we are doomed.
at October 6, 2005 12:02 AM
Pismo;
The science is already here, we just need the political will to make it so. Bio-Diesel is a zero-emmission fuel made of plant material. the deisel engine was originaly designed to run on peanut oil. All that would need to happen is for the President to phase out the sale and distribution of Gas vehicles over a 10 year period. That would give everyone time to invest in a diesel vehicle that would not need oil for fuel. I believe this is the perfect marriage of national security and enviromentalism. The increased need for farming would also be a boost to our economy. www.grassoline.com/
You can bet my next vehicle is going to be diesel.
DIVEST TERROR!
at October 6, 2005 12:45 AM
Tell the House of Saud to bugger off back into the desert where we found them.
Part of the solution, as pointed out above, is the replacement of petroleum. Volkswagon has been putting big bucks into developing a type of bio-deisel called SunFuel. See the current issue of Science News for more info.
Since it is a bio-mass fuel it can be synthesized from agricultural and sylvacultural waste, as well as purpose produced crops like corn.
It actually required very little tinkering to convert old deisel engines to burn it, and newer models can burn it with no adjustments needed.
We get rid of the need for Middle Eastern oil, and we can tell the whole region to kiss our hairy infidel butts.
And to all my homies in Israel: Happy New Year
I hope 5766 is a good one.
at October 6, 2005 12:49 AM
Nothing will come of this.
(W)ahabbster serves on his knees under the saudi thobe.
(W)ahabbster is the reason saudi mosques operate unfettered.
(W)ahabbster is the reason the (latest) OK bomber is off the radar.
You are expected to die quietly. That is the plan.
Posted by: Itai at October 6, 2005 1:59 AM
Nothing will come of this.
(W)ahabbster serves on his knees under the saudi thobe.
(W)ahabbster is the reason saudi mosques operate unfettered.
(W)ahabbster is the reason the (latest) OK bomber is off the radar.
You are expected to die quietly. That is the plan.
Posted by: Itai at October 6, 2005 1:59 AM
Nothing will come of this.
(W)ahabbster serves on his knees under the saudi thobe.
(W)ahabbster is the reason saudi mosques operate unfettered.
(W)ahabbster is the reason the (latest) OK bomber is off the radar.
You are expected to die quietly. That is the plan.
Posted by: Itai at October 6, 2005 2:00 AM
Nothing will come of this.
(W)ahabbster serves on his knees under the saudi thobe.
(W)ahabbster is the reason saudi mosques operate unfettered.
(W)ahabbster is the reason the (latest) OK bomber is off the radar.
You are expected to die quietly. That is the plan.
Posted by: Itai at October 6, 2005 2:00 AM
Nothing will come of this.
(W)ahabbster serves on his knees under the saudi thobe.
(W)ahabbster is the reason saudi mosques operate unfettered.
(W)ahabbster is the reason the (latest) OK bomber is off the radar.
You are expected to die quietly. That is the plan.
Posted by: Itai at October 6, 2005 2:02 AM
First of all it is good news though a little late and like other people here I think it will be ignored, due to bribes and ignorance, etc. which will be a suicide.
There is no chance of this happening in the EU in any shape or form, however I was aware of a mosque in France that had its Saudi funding blocked...
I have a diesel car already, my next car will either be compressed air or a fuel cell car, I will not buy another pertrol or diesel engined car.
Here it is:
http://world.honda.com/FuelCell/
Now if only we have the political will to support this, also have a close look at the Hydrogen station. This is the future guys.
Posted by: Daffersd at October 6, 2005 3:12 AM
Voltaire noted:
“So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men.”
Posted by: leavingtheleft at October 6, 2005 3:44 AM
Dealing with Saudi Arabia is the most convoluted, complicated and conflicted piece in the foreign relations puzzle. Persian Gulf oil has to keep flowing to all compass points to sustain the global economy and to avoid a resouce-based world war. Even the consequences of the Wahabbi blowback have so far been minor compared to the alternatives.
That being said the US still must turn the screws to keep the Wahabbi virus from gaining any traction. Maybe you'll never read it in the NYT but I'm conviced that most Americans can and do make the connection between people like the Oklahoma explode-a-dope and the hate mongering that comes out of Suadi land. The jihadis grossly underestimate the level of the response they'll get if and when they start cranking out more Hinrichs.
Posted by: Peter Boston at October 6, 2005 7:19 AM
Every day, millions of unclean petro dollars enter the coffers of the saudi wahabists.
Money that is tainted by the unclean and degenrate west that do not live unfer the lawas of Allah.
what should a decent honest wahabbist do with this money to cleanse it from the filth of western decadence?
The Answer of course is to turn this money against them in every way possible from outright terrorism to subtle propaganda.
In this way the remaining Billions are cleansed and are non longer haram.
So that is why it is impossible to ask the Saudis to ban the issue hate literature and the Hosts of other attack they make against the west.
I'm sure Bush abd the state dept know this only to well and this "enquiry" will end up as a whitewash in the same way that the BBC enquiries into ME Bias are manned by panels of pro Hammas individuals.
at October 6, 2005 8:10 AM
Kevin
I absolutely love it. Bio-diesel automobiles. My first trip over the pond I rented a diesel stick shift and loved it. It was economical and easier to drive than a gasoline engine car because diesel cars are very torquey,not so rpm sensitive,and not noisey at all. Now I ask for diesel,always. California has not caught on and we can't buy diesel cars here.
at October 6, 2005 9:11 AM
Mr. Spencer:
Back around 1983-86 the Chicago Tribune ran some articles on Saudi diplomatic offices distributing hate literature such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
If you have access to Lexis/Nexis you might find it interesting to compare "then" and "now".
at October 6, 2005 9:18 AM
give me doughnuts:
I'm just a kinsperson in the (Canadian) Diaspora, but Shana Tova anyway.
Q: Whaddaya get when you subtract the Chinese calendar year from the Jewish calendar year?
A: 1,063 years that the Jewish people had to wait for Chinese food.
at October 6, 2005 9:24 AM
Quote from the movie "My Favorite Year":
Jews know two things; suffering and where to find great Chinese food.
Guess the suffering got a bit of a head start, so now we have to eats lots more Chinese.
at October 6, 2005 12:33 PM
doughnuts:
We eat lots of Chinese because because an hour after you've eaten, you're hungry again, and since when did we ever need an excuse for that?
Posted by: waterdragon52 at October 6, 2005 12:53 PM
The art of French cooking is to never waste anything. The art of Chinese cooking is to use what the French throw away.
Culinary question: What is the muslim dilemma?
Answer: Whether to steal ham.
at October 6, 2005 12:55 PM
thurs oct 6
Experts paint troubled picture for future of world oil supply
By Nicholas K. Geranios
The Associated Press
SPOKANE — It may already be too late for the United States to avoid massive economic disruption because of a decline in worldwide oil production, an industry expert said yesterday.
Roger Bezdek, a consultant for the U.S. Department of Energy, told the Global Oil Depletion conference that it will take more than a decade to find alternative sources of energy if oil production reaches a peak, which may be imminent.
"No one knows when oil will peak," Bezdek said. "But if we wait until the peak, we will be in deep economic troubles for decades."
The conference was presented by the Thomas S. Foley Institute at Washington State University and painted a gloomy picture of a future in which there is increased competition for diminishing resources.
Bezdek said it will take the nation 10 to 15 years to deal with a decline in oil supply by finding alternative means to move people and goods. That time is needed to find substitute fuels and get higher fuel efficiency.
"It may be too late to avoid economic dislocations," he said.
more..http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002542956_oilwoes06e.html
Posted by: otterfisher at October 6, 2005 1:01 PM
Cannibis...yes the evil weed, can cheaply be refined to run all your auto systems ,does not pollute and has many other industrial uses. Hemp makes superior cloth, paper, rope, medicine, ect , it's oils can be refined to lubricate most anything from your car to sewing machines.
It can grow almost anywhere, is a renewable resource and has a very high energy potential per acre.
Cannibis should be decriminalised and everyone encouraged to grow it. Fields, empty lots, pots, ect. Once your crop is ready you pull it up, take it to the recyle center, they weigh it, pay you something for it, and then truck it over to the refinery where they make all these needed products, that they sell back to us at reasonable prices. Pot at the pump.$1.25 gal. A national energy program that everyone can participate in and even pick up some cash. This can end poverty for those with enough room to grow a lot. Cannibis can almost replace fossile fuels...with a cannibis based energy program, we can tell oil producers to go stuff it. We can become energy sufficient by our own efforts. Of course this requires a fundamental change of gov attitude and the public just has to come to grips with the idea that someone might smoke some of it.
They are smoking it anyway so the trade off is worth it. And just think, with cannibis fuel, you can hang around the tail pipe and inhale those fumes, it's a wunnerful life, aint it?...
at October 6, 2005 4:50 PM
mmmm...cannabis fumes...mmmmmm
Posted by: otterfisher at October 6, 2005 6:06 PM
We need to remember one thing though
The Saudis and The muslim clerics absolutly believe that the Koran is not an inspired work from god no no
The Koran is gods word Dictated directly to the so called prophet mohammed.
Since in the Koran it STATES
Kill the Infidel
Kill the Jews
Terrorizing them at every turn.
It is NOT HATE but god himself who stated this..
In the view of Any TRUE muslim the Koran is telling the TRUTH
Therefore it is NOT
Murder to Kill an Infidel (allah said so)
Genocide to wipe out the Jews (allah says its ok)
Rape (Mohammed ws cmmanded to take these women after wiping out their entire villages and communities.)
I really dont know what this will help (unless the American people are willing to take the next step)
Banning the Koran and Islam from America...
I doubt anyone has the stomach for that draconian (and much needed response)...
I expect the muslims to state exactly this (sugar coated of course) not as blunt or direct as my truthful statement...
Posted by: jingoist at October 7, 2005 12:08 AM
Texan--OT, but, as a Chinese-speaking American with a bit of Far Eastern experience behind him, I assure you that one problem the Hollywood Left will ultimately have with Buddhism is that once you get them away from their PR folks and handlers, guys like the Dalai Lama and the typical Chan ("Zen") monk are a bit to the right of the Pope and Jerry Falwell on abortion. In Taiwan, when they legalized the medical murder of the unborn, the Buddhist clergy was just as loud in its protests as the Roman Catholics and Fundamentalist Protestants.
Posted by: Kepha at October 8, 2005 8:58 AM
Ofcourse the Senate couldn`t adress this problem earlier,for the senators are bussy with other,more important matters,that require more immediate action...such as the use of steroids by baseball players,and other crucial issues of that nature.
I have lost my faith in president Bush some time ago,based on his reluctance in adressing the border problem,and now,after the Meyers fiasco i have lost faith in the whole establishment,as a viable entity...we knew for a long time that the liberals are not competent or willing to defend our country,and now we learn that the conservatives are no better...in other words,it looks like we are doomed.
Ditto. Not too many people admit to this level of cynicism, yet here we are years after the single most horrendous terrorist attack in history and still our governments will not protect us.
Then those governments are no longer viable. Maybe Iraq should invade the US and set up a free country for us. ;)
Posted by: wannabersc at October 11, 2005 11:05 PM
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