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October 13, 2005

New Stadium Security Policies Announced

The Big 12 football conference is tightening security measures around its stadiums. Now I can't help but notice that these new security measures closely follow the suicide of Joel Hinrichs by explosion outside the football stadium in Oklahoma.

I have been following that case in all its strange permutations: he apparently had jihad material, bomb-making material, and a Muslim roommate. He had a beard like one a convert to Islam would have. But his father says he was not a Muslim and the local MSA says they don't know him, and no conclusive proof has been found indicating that he was indeed a Muslim. His death has been universally portrayed by officials and the mainstream media as an individual suicide, albeit in a rather bizarre fashion. I can't recall ever before hearing of anyone committing suicide by blowing himself up except for Muslims who intended to take as many others with them as possible.

But if he was just a lone nut with a random target, and the local Muslims saw nothing and know nothing, why tighten security at the stadiums? Or do authorities suspect that a plot may be afoot akin to efforts last year to launch jihad at a British soccer stadium?

"New Stadium Security Policies Announced: Texas Tech Athletics has announced new security measures for Jones SBC Stadium that will go into effect immediately," from the Texas Tech Athletics page, with thanks to Bob:

Texas Tech and the Big 12 Conference are increasing stadium security around the league due to concerns over recent events and the conference policy of making each stadium as safe and secure as possible. The following changes will be made beginning with the Kansas State game this weekend.

Effectively immediately, the screening of individuals and their possessions when entering Jones SBC Stadium will be more stringent than in past games.

BAGS, BACKPACKS and/or similar items will not be allowed inside the Stadium.

Posted by Robert at October 13, 2005 10:42 AM
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They are tightening security because of the lack of information. The FBI is keeping tight-lipped about it. The vacuum is causing way too much speculation and rumor. Some people have put him at the stadium, but turned away when he didn't allow a search of the bag. If true, why not blow it up then and there? There's still a crowd of people around the security check points.

I'm still not convinced he was a jihadist, but the FBI needs to address this soon.

Posted by: Mark L [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 13, 2005 11:17 AM

Another incident on Monday at Georgia Tech may have added to their concern:

http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=70306

Unlike the OU president, the Atlanta PD seemed to have no problem identifying a terrorist act.

Posted by: XRDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 13, 2005 12:17 PM

I'm not sure how much weight denials issued by the local Muslim Students' Association (MSA) should carry. I believe they are the beneficiaries of funding from Saudi Arabia and anything they say should be judged accordingly.

Re: "But if he was just a lone nut with a random target, and the local Muslims saw nothing and know nothing, why tighten security at the stadiums? Or do authorities suspect that a plot may be afoot akin to efforts last year to launch jihad at a British soccer stadium?"

Maybe they are just playing it safe. Heaven knows that if another similar incident occurred, and security hadn't been beefed up, the accountable security forces would have their @sses in a sling. And, Muslim terrorist or not, we do see the phenomena of copycats every now and again.

Posted by: waterdragon52 [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 13, 2005 12:30 PM

Robert

You may have read about a person in Erie Pennsylvania who was strapped to a bomb and the bomb went off with the police looking on. He was involved in a robbery and as he sat there he said someone else put the bomb on him and he was helpless to defuse it.

This case has never really been solved although they do suspect a weird associate of his.

Posted by: paulc37 [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 13, 2005 1:53 PM

There's a pattern of denial going on here. First it was the TWA flight 800, a flight that I've been on and is known to carry NY area Hasidim en route to-and-from Israel via Paris.

Then the flight that crashed into Queens just after 9/11, after a hothead FDNY spokesman from Queens boasted that would-be Caliph Osama bin Laden "can kiss my royal Irish ass."

Then the FBI's rush to proclaim the Houston refinery explosion as an accident, before even having set foot on the refinery's grounds.

It's that Moslem Magic: oil gets discovered under your lazy layabout ass, Europe hands itself over to your demographic predation without so much as a peep. Several infidel nations make it a crime to criticize Islam. You're allowed to gang rape white girls and face only slap-of-the-wrist punishment. The press kisses your ass (Bill O'Reilly). Universities lavish you with funds to teach us about the great religion Islam, and the great cultural achievements it has yielded. And, worst of all, the police and armed forces bend over backward to keep secret your mass murdering crimes.

Moslem Magic.

Posted by: Shaughn [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 13, 2005 2:30 PM

Securing the stadium is meaningless. Hinrichs was seated next to buses used to shuttle fans to a distant parking lot. Shortly after the game ended, those buses would have been mobbed with people headed for home.

Posted by: Robert Crawford [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 13, 2005 7:20 PM

Hey, paulc37. Here's a link to the news story you were recalling about the Erie man who had the timebomb strapped to his neck.

Posted by: markjames [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 13, 2005 10:36 PM

Good catch Robert, you have asked all of the right questions, and the questions lead to only one conclusion, that he indeed was a Muslim on a "martrydom mission" and of course the local Muslims would deny that he was Muslim, that is their shtick, either deny that he is a muslim or claim that it was a MOSSAD/CIA false flag operation.

Mark L, it is entirely possible that the explosion was inadvertent, I've been reading up on this stuff that they use these days, it is homemade, easily made, but is touchy and easily detonated.

Here's another item. The infamous Anarchist cookbook has two recipes, that are guaranteed to be fatal if you use them, that's why so many of these radicals from the 70's inadvertently blew themselves up.

One is the recipe for nitroglycerine. Follow that recipe and you'll never leave your kitchen except in pieces.

Another is the recipe for homemade napalm.

I hear, from good authority, that the FBI actually put out the Anarchist cookbook, and cooked the recipes so they would produce the fatal results.

Posted by: Nariz [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 13, 2005 11:06 PM

Shaughn says; It's that Moslem Magic: oil gets discovered under your lazy layabout ass, Europe hands itself over to your demographic predation without so much as a peep. Several infidel nations make it a crime to criticize Islam. You're allowed to gang rape white girls and face only slap-of-the-wrist punishment. The press kisses your ass (Bill O'Reilly)...
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Outstanding! Wouldn't it be refreshing if Bush moseyed up to the mic at a press conference and read some of Shaughn's material. O, by the way Shaughn, I hope you don't mind that I sent Oreilly a copy of your eloquence. You're right, Oreilly is (as he is fond of saying)"hiding under his desk."

Posted by: Thumper [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 13, 2005 11:26 PM

While terror likely was on the mind of the bomber... there is at least one other possible explaination to consider: Have you seen how poorly the high-expectation Oklahoma Sooners have been playing? Perhaps he was a "fan" merely "expressing" his extreme dissatisfaction with the team...!

Posted by: SolomonSword [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 14, 2005 2:36 AM

While terror likely was on the mind of the bomber... there is at least one other possible explaination to consider: Have you seen how poorly the high-expectation Oklahoma Sooners have been playing? Perhaps he was a "fan" merely "expressing" his extreme dissatisfaction with the team...!

Posted by: SolomonSword [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 14, 2005 2:36 AM

While terror likely was on the mind of the bomber... there is at least one other possible explaination to consider: Have you seen how poorly the high-expectation Oklahoma Sooners have been playing? Perhaps he was merely "expressing" his extreme dissatisfaction with the team...!

Posted by: SolomonSword [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 14, 2005 2:37 AM

Yesterday morning, Oct. 13, 2005, I saw an interview on FoxNews with the student editor or chief reporter for the OU student Newspaper. I didn't get this student's name. When I looked at his dress and hair style, listened to his rhetoric, etc., I thought he would fit in very nicely at the next Democratic National Convention.

The upshot of his take on this whole situation is that it is "not true" that Hinrichs was a mosque attendee or Moslem (didn't say how he came to that conclusion), that it is "not true" that there were lots of other explosives found inside Hinrichs' apartment (didn't say how he came to this conclusion), that all of this conspiracy conversation is driven by "rumors" and that we're just about on the "back side" of the story, that it will, and should, go away soon.

How laughable. This rather arrogant kid did not directly answer the question put to him as to whether he thinks the FBI is withholding information or lying about what was really going on with Hinrichs. Yet Fox News treated this college junior like his take is the final and correct conclusion to this wierd story. How amazing it is that Fox has largely ignored the story and then proclaims a big thanks to a college junior for "clearing this up" once and for all.

By the way, I am a retired cop who investigated a few suicides during my not-very-legendary career, and I don't recall one where someone strapped explosives to his body in order to exit this world by blowing himself up in a public place.

Posted by: JohnnyDub [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 14, 2005 8:59 AM

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