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The outspoken fanaticism of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has begun to hurt Iran’s burgeoning stock market, scaring away billions of dollars in foreign investment. Responding to the complaints of investors and some government officials, Ahmadinejad recently outlined his relatively simple economic reform plan, according to Iran Focus:
Tehran, Oct. 30 – Iran’s hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told the latest cabinet meeting in the Iranian capital that “if we were permitted to hang two or three persons, the problems with the stock exchange would be solved for ever”, according to a Tehran-based newspaper.Ahmadinejad was addressing a cabinet meeting held to discuss the rapidly deteriorating situation at the Tehran Stock Exchange, the daily Ruznet reported on Sunday.
Ministers and experts disagreed with all the different views and proposals raised at the meeting, which came to an end without any concrete results. Tempers flew high and participants shouted at each other during the discussion, according to the daily. Frustrated with the inability of his economic advisers and experts to come up with any solution, Ahmadinejad told them that the only way out of the current stock exchange and financial market problems was to “frighten” speculators by hanging two or three of them.
Iran’s ultra-Islamist President first sent jitters through the country’s markets when he said on the eve of the presidential elections in June that “stock exchange activities are a kind of gambling and we are against them”. Gambling is banned in Islam.
Nervous investors have been transferring their capital to other countries, and Dubai has benefited palpably from the flight of capital from Iran. The Tehran Stock Exchange has lost 20 percent of its value in the past four months.
Posted by Patrick at October 30, 2005 1:48 PM
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Not content with aping Uncle Adolf, Madmoody Ahmarankbajin now seems to be doing a rather poor take of of Josef Stalin with his "Death solves all problems - no man, no problem".
Posted by: thomas ato![[TypeKey Profile Page]](http://www.jihadwatch.org/nav-commenters.gif)
at October 30, 2005 2:35 PM
Is there at least the slightest potential he was making a joke?
Hanging two or three just doesn't sound like enough to do the job.
Posted by: Gary at October 30, 2005 2:37 PM
Stalin came to mind when I read this earlier at http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/ and it just gets more likely by the hour.
What will our Left dhimmi fascist friends and relatives say about it? If these maniacs in Iran continue to slide down the greasy slope to war, what will our neighbours say when we must act regardless? They'll come out swinging--at us.
Paris is burning, school girls are murdered and have their heads cut off, workers are blown to bits on commuter trains, children are murdered in schools, the Muslims are rioting and murdering nuns and parishioners in Egyptian churches, and our own are crying the blues about terrorists abused in Iraqi prisons while celebrants in India are ripped to bits by Islamic bombs. And Prince Charles trots off to chat with Bush about our racist intolerance of Islam.
Isn't it time that religious people other than Muslims combine their forces to fight back? It would seem to the average person that if Muslims are bent on world destruction that someone would try to stop them. And since one thing most victims of Muslim primitivism have in common is religion, it seems to make sense that religious people should combine forces to protect each other and themselves against Islam itself.
If our own citizens side with primitive Islamic fascism, and if our nation states refuse to deal effectively with their first purpose as states, to protect the citizen, then the citizens must protect themselves. When girls have their heads cut off for going to school it's beyond all reason to be reasonable. And when a Stalinsit monster threatens the world with annihilation, who can stand by while the leaders of our nations sip tea and sympathize with those who would murder us?
Posted by: sonofwalker at October 30, 2005 2:51 PM
sonofwalker
Citizen militias and vigilantism are the US government's worst nightmare right now. That is why GWB and others have been peddling the RoP obfuscatory bullsh*t since 9/12. Remember the Sikh who was murdered at the gas station a few days after the attack? Multiply that incident by 10,000 and you begin to get a taste of what is in store if armed citizens begin taking the law into their own hands and seek vengeance against Muslims in this country. Cool the rhetoric on vigilante justice.
Posted by: Charles Martel at October 30, 2005 3:13 PM
As for Ahmadinejad, if he wants to see the Iranian stock market rise, he can start with self-immolation at the opening bell.
Posted by: Charles Martel at October 30, 2005 3:17 PM
This development puzzles me. I always thought Ahmadinejad was a front for the real power brokers in Iran. If they are losing big money because of their idiot-puppet, Ahmadinejad will be one of the three swinging from the gallows.
Posted by: 1630r at October 30, 2005 3:38 PM
>...Is there at least the slightest potential he was making a joke?
In the Islamic Republic of Iran? Now that is genuinely the funniest thing I've heard today. :)
Posted by: thomas ato at October 30, 2005 4:48 PM
The flight of capital from Iran might have more to do with conservative investors realizing that a wingnut heads the govenment.
And these two or three swingers (the very antithesis of people who enjoy themselves) might still be swinging when the first Western attacks materialize.
Posted by: dgene at October 30, 2005 4:56 PM
"Cool the rhetoric on vigilante justice."
Posted by: Charles Martel at October 30, 2005 03:13 PM
I think you should read more carefully. You're concluding on the basis of a superficial reading of one post without having read or remembered anything else I've written here in the past 18 months and more.
I do not advocate vigilante recklessness, nor do I support terrorism, and I don't think you've come close to grasping the nature of what I did write. If you'll follow here I'll try to make it clear:
Those of us who reside within the boundaries of legitimate states are bound to follow the postive laws; and those laws we do not care for we are free to challenge in our courts; and further we are free to vote for representativ who will repeal old laws and enact new ones we might prefer. That's liberal democracy, and one of the things we fight for here and elsewhere. Try if you will, I don't think you'll find anything I've written contradicts that postion.
What you will find is that outside the rule of postive law where the rule of law is arbitrary or hostile to the legitmate will of the people or if the law contravenes the rights of minorities illegitmately, there is no just law, and that illegitimate state's laws does not deserve our attentions beyond prudence.
Think anything you like based on that.
Posted by: sonofwalker at October 30, 2005 5:30 PM
"Cool the rhetoric on vigilante justice."
-- posted by Charles Martel
Europe is fast approaching the point where such talk is the mature and judicious thing to do.
Americans are better positioned for self-defense because of the 2nd Amendment. But, given that we in America are stuck with a feminized government and a corrupt judiciary, probably our best shot is a military coup to confront the problem. Then a gradual recension back to the original text of the Constitution, as Moslems are removed from our midst, or otherwise pacified, in a humane and orderly manner.
PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's foibles with the stock market not only demonstrates Islam's inherent incompatibility with capitalism (and its natural alignment with socialism), it also demonstrates the essential childishness of the Modern Moslem Man who, like a dog, cannot fully anticipate the consequences of his actions.
But unlike a dog, the Modern Moslem Man has shown the ability to reverse his actions.
Posted by: Chaz MarteL 732 at October 30, 2005 6:22 PM
If Chuck shows up next I'm on vacation. Hold my calls, Zelda.
Posted by: sonofwalker at October 30, 2005 6:51 PM
Time to revisit the reports that Ahmadinejad was indeed the student leader of the Iranian Revolution.
Even our administration tried to deny the reports, but the more that comes out, the more valid those reports are.
The man is a fanatic, and fanatics murder in wholesale.. the Ayatollahs, the EVAK and the Revolutionary Guards have tortured and murdered tens of thousands more than the Shah and the SAVAK ever did, and the Shah never hung teenage girls nor stoned raped women for adultery either.
Google Stoning In Iran or Hanging Iran
BTW, Son of Walker, you do violence to language and truth when you talk of left fascism, fascism is the exclusive domain of the right, and of all Right wing ideologies (color them conservative if you wish) Islam is the most fascist.. that's why we call it Islamofascist, and the enemy of Islam is liberalism and the left.
What drives dhimmitude in the west my friend is profits, the stock market, free trade, and the money to be made from open borders and Arab oil (not to mention cheap labor).
Cheers.
Posted by: Nariz at October 30, 2005 6:55 PM
On second thought SOW, whenever you type leftwing fascism. the image of George Orwell comes to mind,
perhaps by repeating it often enough, you can create a reality like Big Brother
Too bad the only people you can sell to are like minded SOW's.
Posted by: Nariz at October 30, 2005 7:01 PM
"... fascism is the exclusive domain of the right..."
-- posted by Nariz
Nariz, this is Houston. Flight Control monitored your last exchange on the radio, and one of our technicians brought up Josef Stalin on the mainframe. The situtation matrix diagnoses vertigo and recommends that you come back down now.Copy?
Posted by: Chaz MarteL 732 at October 30, 2005 7:03 PM
If Leftism isn't capable of being fascist, they seem to be doing a pretty darn good imitation of it. Look how the Leftists try to shut up Hirsi Ali and Oriana Fallaci, just for telling the truth about Islam.
Posted by: Suzan at October 30, 2005 7:35 PM
And here's a great essay explaining why fascism is a movement of the Left, not the right:
http://geocities.com/jonjayray/musso.html
Posted by: Suzan at October 30, 2005 7:39 PM
Two pieces follow here on Left fascism. I didn't write them, though some of the commentators didn't seem to understand that part. Or much else, I assume. The first is very funny. It's written by a philosophy prof. in California as I recall, not my own rant, sorry to say.
http://nodhimmitude.blogspot.com/2005/08/like-pomomusing-you-know.html
http://nodhimmitude.blogspot.com/2005/08/are-you-fascist.html
Posted by: sonofwalker at October 30, 2005 8:26 PM
Fascism was a particular variant of totalitarianism. So are Stalinism, and Marxist-Leninism, and islam, other variants of totalitarianism.
The left/right labels are not useful, only confusing, in this context.
The key to totalitarian ideologies is the crushing of the individual to the collective: the loss of individual liberty in the guise of what is allegedly good for some in-group. This is usually closely associated with the demonization of an out-group as an enemy of the collective. The demonized groups could be non-Aryans, or Jews, or the bourgeousie, or the kufr. Whatever.
Posted by: del at October 30, 2005 9:56 PM
Nariz,
You might have placed your head into a hole where the sun dont shine.
Hitler was a socialist, a national socialist, as are the Baath movements (Hail Saddam).Stalin was a socialist
Freedom is us, mostly conservatives, people on the right.
Socialists sing about the paradise they will create, and then presumably there will be freedom.
Islam asks you to submit and get paradise in heaven.No freedom.
We dont submit. We celebrate freedom now.
at October 30, 2005 11:15 PM
Ahmadinejad's idea could have merit, providing that he's one of the two or three and the other being two top mullahs.
I have no idea as to what really goes on in the hearts and minds of the average Iranian. It has a very young population demographic and there are a lot of wealthy ex-pat Iranians around the world who don't like the Islamic Republic. I understand that there are anti-regime broadcasters in California among other locations who are trying to get an opposition message out. The Regime has also suffered a number of international embarassments, including over the murder of the Canadian Iranian photojournalist, Zarah Kahzemi. I know it's a lot to hope, but we could be (pleasantly) surprised. The pendulum has swung so far in favour of this incredibly reactionary movement. Maybe we'll start seeing a correction and not in the direction of the MEK.
Posted by: waterdragon52 at October 31, 2005 7:29 AM
Sonofwalker.
Stalin is very wrong analogy. Stalin was not a fanatic. Stalin as bad as he was – was very pragmatic and extremely skilful politician, much more then Churchill or Roosevelt. This guy is mad.
I tried more then ones to stop people contributing to this side to use labels such as “Islamofascist” or equally misleading ones. Islam and Muslims are the only words we should use to describe those people. If you use “Islamic fascism” you imply that there is
A different form of Islam. There is not.
“ Isn't it time that religious people other than Muslims combine their forces to fight back?”
And what about people like me? Non religious and anti-religious. We are not invited?
I had started to fight long before most people did. Not with guns, but if we all started to do what I have been doing for the last 10 years, things would be a bit different:
1. I do not travel to any Islamic countries. Not for business or holydays.
2. I do not employ Muslims.
3. I boycott all products made by Muslims.
4. I save energy.
5. I support all movements against Islam.
6. I support Israel.
7. I recommend books and education material to my friends.
8. I encourage other people to do the same.
I would “combined forces” with anybody if I consider their position as right and moral, but will never support one religion against the other. Muslims are not against Christians. They are against everything which is not Muslim. I do not believe we can eradicate Islam but we can put Muslims where they belong – in a gutter.
Our politicians will not go along us if they consider our position is too radical. And as PC goes I understand that my position is radical. Politicians are simple people and should not be given complicated goals. They are affrayed of words Islam, Muslims and so on. Support for Israel works better with the politicians. I do believe that the front line is not in Europe or US but in Israel.
If we defeat Jihad in Palestine – we won the war!!!
at October 31, 2005 8:14 AM
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