All that remains is Jacques Chirac signing a surrender agreement in one of the booty wagons Charles Martel seized from Saracen invaders. French exceptionalism seems to extend only to American fast food and English words. Maintaining a nation-state with law and order must be on the list somewhere. Or not.

Posted by: Beagle at November 5, 2005 7:18 AM

Francais, Francaises le moment est arrive pour la paix. Mettez votre croix pour la regle de Caliphate. Salaam Alex. A mort les Americains et les Juifs. Les evenements sont un complot Zioniste. (cynicisme fermee).

Frenchmen, Frenchwomen, peace in our time. Replace your faith with the rule of the Caliphate. Salaam Alex. Death to the Americans and the Jews. Recent events are attributed to a Zionist plot. (cynicism off).

Jihadists have asked those of their cause to spontaneously generate violence. This is what we are witnessing. The children are being encouraged to have a good time, looting and destroying. You would think with all the joy of the Ramadan celebration they would be too tired for all of this. I hope the flics have camcorders and will send the rioters back to the old country or worse.

Posted by: David England at November 5, 2005 7:40 AM

This is how Islam/Muslims repay French tolerance. To the Ummah non-muslim tolerance only means weakness and even more important opportunity. Mulsims love “tolerant” non-muslims to death!

Sorry but France showed weakness … now they have to pay. France will have to pay not only with their country, culture, economy but with their lives if need be! France refused to fight the war abroad … now the frogs can fight the war in the city of lights that are going very dhimmi … very fast! The French are now facing two choices … fight or flight. France won’t fight, but will ask others, as they have in the past … to do the heavy lifting for them.

Posted by: Jack at November 5, 2005 7:41 AM

Heart-wrenching. It's like watching Apollo in the ring with Ivan Drago!

Posted by: Mad_Jack at November 5, 2005 7:51 AM

What's the French word for 'crackdown'? Oh, wait...why would there be one?

Posted by: Jeffrey A. Liss at November 5, 2005 7:57 AM

Back on the topic "Muslims set disabled woman on fire in Paris"... You remember some said that the victim was herself a muslim??

Well, it seems the french television channels have played a strange little game when presenting this event:

TF1 & France 2, at prime time (i.e. 8pm) have presented the testimony of the victim's daughter about her mother condition. The victim name was not given , but the daughter was presented as "Fadella", and the interview show a heavily veiled young women:
http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tf1fadellafilledelavictime2xp.jpg

France 3 in its night edition (11pm), however, shows us a picture of the victim, "Joëlle, 56 years old" http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fr3soir3jolle56anslavictime1vg.jpg
and some testimony from her daughters Yaël and Anastasia; their names and their appearance very much "non-muslim" like...

So... what to believe? It might be that Fadella really is another daughter of Joëlle's, but I find it intriguing that she is the one and only one shown showed at prime time. Makes me think they wanted us to think "oh, ok, the victim is also muslim, so those "unrests" have nothing to do with islam, right"?? Or I'm just being paranoîd.

Posted by: Pistache at November 5, 2005 8:08 AM

Oh... I forgot, sorry... but for those who want to also check Yaël a Anastasia, here's their picture :

http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fr3soir3anastasiayalfillesdela.jpg

Posted by: Pistache at November 5, 2005 8:09 AM

It is past time for declaring martial law and delivering an ultimatum: "After _____ (fill in the blank with a deadline), rioters, looters, and arsonists will be shot."

The French authorities have to give them some warning. Otherwise "Oh poor us. The Islamophobic police just started shooting at us."

jay

Posted by: jay at November 5, 2005 8:25 AM

This is so sad

Hearing what the Muslims are doing in France is like hearing of a child having been raped and murdered. Smug comments, clever rhetoric, intellectual arguments and stoic banter are rendered completely inappropriate by the sheer horror of it.

What on earth are these loathsome barbarians doing wrecking such a civilized nation as France? If the Muslim's "rights" are not respected why do they not return to their homelands? They are like a houseguest that wrecks the furniture because of the imagined haughty attitude of the fatigued hosts; and instead of evicting the troublesome brawler; the hosts are desperately trying to think of ways of appeasing him!

In North Africa, innocent Western tourists and Christians are murdered all the time - hundreds have been killed since 1990. In France, no Muslims are ever randomly murdered, and yet this is what the North Africans do!

And what is Europe doing about this overt threat? She is discussing new ways to outlaw criticizing Islam (the root cause) and fighting to dismantle the border with Turkey! Has Europe world gone mad?

Posted by: Timbo at November 5, 2005 9:04 AM

It continues so long because they see they have so much power, it is they who have the country on its knees. What a trip for the young Muslim male, raised to view himself as superior over the infidel. It's actually true. He can destroy and strike fear in the hearts of the infidel, just like their hero, mohammed did. Why bother wait til you have the majority? That's too far off in the future. Demand submission now. And get it, by the looks of it.

Posted by: feralee at November 5, 2005 9:10 AM

Anyone else notice that this report identifies the initial victims as:

the accidental death of two "men"

- and not 'youths'?

Posted by: justamomof4 at November 5, 2005 9:23 AM

France despite the ignorance that led to this event, does not deserve to have it's citizens set on fire or any of the other equally horrible things that are caused by ungrateful Muslims. These victims are innocent, by cracking typical French jokes you might as well be calling them "Little Eichmanns"

Posted by: JadeDragoness at November 5, 2005 10:31 AM

Pistache,

I think the press tried to play a cruel joke on the public. I followed your links and it is clear that the so-called daughter "Fadella" is obviously an arab muslim. I seriously doubt that the victim is a muslim woman because she was photographed with what appeared to be a empty bottle of alcohol in front of her. As for the daugheters Yael and Anastasia, those are NOT muslim names. I've met only one person with that unusual name (Yael) and she was from Israel.

Posted by: delia7 at November 5, 2005 4:11 PM

The only thing that Muslims respect is force, overwhelming and brutal force. That's how they deal with each other. Even for Muslims there comes a point where the costs outweigh the benefits.

The most insane and counterproductive tactic is arresting them and putting them in jail, they merely come out of the whole affair more experience, angry, adamant and dangerous.

There is no alternative, and the Muslims have only themselves to blame, but it is time for surgical precision.. do it what it takes to excise the chancre sore, before the cancer devours the nation.

Posted by: Nariz at November 5, 2005 5:08 PM

France refused to fight the war abroad … now the frogs can fight the war in the city of lights that are going very dhimmi … very fast

Why should they waste their money and lives, because a bunch of psychotic nuts at the Project for a New American Century, concocted and fixed "evidence" to support an invasion that was planned well before 9-11 (and it was).

The fixing of facts to support the invasion was an act of treason, an impeachable offense.

No WMD's.
Saddam was an apostate and anathema to the Islamists and Bin Laden.
He had no military capability at all.
Instead of fighting terrorism, Bush and Co have created a haven for terrorists, a recruiting center and training ground.
Saddam was more of a symbolic threat than anything, and actually more of a threat to his Muslim neighbors than Israel.
Saddam had been promoting himself as the new Saladin/Nebuchanazar and was the latest hero to the street Arab and that posed a threat to the Saudis, the Emirs of Kuwait, the Gulf States and of course he was a constant threat to Iran..Now that he is gone, Iran is flexing it's nuclear muscles as it has nothing to fear from Iraq, in as much as Iraq is now a Shi'a dominated ally of Iran.

The invasion of Iraq was not only stupid, but it has wasted our economy, the future of our children, ruined our reputation in the world, driven up the price of oil, and the true costs of the war won't be felt for another five or ten years and for what? Pray tell for what?

If Bush and the neo cons really want to go after Terrorist regimes, regimes that harbor Terrorists, then they should have attacked Bosnia, Kosovo,Eypt, Sudan, Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh and most of all Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

But no he went after the regime that the Saudis hated and feared above all others... The regime of Saddam Hussein.

Posted by: Nariz at November 5, 2005 5:21 PM

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/stacks/democrat.guest.html

Posted by: Carolyn2 at November 5, 2005 5:35 PM

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/bushlied.htm

Posted by: Carolyn2 at November 5, 2005 5:37 PM

Bush and Rice etc. make me furious, but the line about Bush lied is just not true. Congress saw the same intelligence as the President and was convinced that Saddam had WMD.
Disinformation
by Richard Miniter

WMDs have been found in Iraq.

1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium

1,500 gallons of chemical weapons agents

17 chemical warheads containing cyclosarin (a nerve agent five times more deadly than sarin gas)

Over 1,000 radioactive materials in powdered form meant for dispersal over populated areas

Roadside bombs loaded with mustard and "conventional" sarin gas, assembled in binary chemical projectiles for maximum potency

And this is only a PARTIAL LIST of the horrific weapons verified to have been recovered in Iraq to date. Yet Americans overwhelmingly believe U.S. and coalition forces have found NO weapons of mass destruction.

The question is: WHY do they believe this lie?

Turn on the TV at any given moment, and you're likely to see some earnest media "expert" telling you confidently that America faces a serious threat from suitcase nukes, that Al-Qaeda terrorists are streaming across the Mexican border, that there was no link between Al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein, and that Iraq is another Vietnam. There's just one problem with all this: none of it is true. Richard Miniter explains why these and other popular media factoids and urban legends are not only wrong, but severely damaging to our war effort, in Disinformation: 22 Media Myths That Undermine the War on Terror.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at November 5, 2005 5:41 PM

But we did go after Bosnia and Kosovo, nariz.

Clinton handed them over to an expansion of terrorist networks in the region.

Blowback.

Posted by: Gary at November 5, 2005 6:45 PM

Another one,
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/jonahgoldberg/2005/11/04/174321.html

Posted by: Carolyn2 at November 5, 2005 7:04 PM