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Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald assesses coverage of the Muslim riots in France:
So much nonsense is appearing -- see any number of NPR stations, or the New Duranty Times, where Craig Smith is outdoing himself day by day and leaving a nice record for someone to dissect. Smith, who last year wrote an article about Bat Ye'or, apparently never read, or never took in, Eurabia -- don't bother him, his mind is made up.Everything has been done to deny completely any Muslim connection. According to NPR, "young men" rioted in France. These "young men" were also "disaffected youth." They were "angry and frustrated" because they, these "young men," were "jobless." These "jobless" young men and their families lived in "bleak" housing projects and though all medical care and education was free for them (all of it, period) these "young men" were "angry and frustrated" because apparently the state subsidies are not enough to overcome that "anger" and "frustration" and those "demands" which must be met. This despite the fact that those subsidies amount to round about $1,200 a month, which quite a few French non-Muslims are delighted to receive, and which comes along with all that free (and where there is no disruption from Muslim students, often excellent) education and free (first-world, not Muslim world) health care.
No one notices that all other immigrant groups, similarly situated when they arrive, and many of them consisting of people who have no knowledge of French to begin with (unlike many maghrebins), receiving nothing different. Yet they manage to survive, to thrive, or if not to rise high, at least to be glad, even grateful, that they have reached the refuge of France.The sentimental ne-touche-pas-a-mon-pote times are over. The glorification of primitives, with their verlan and "beur culture" (which is not "culture" in the traditional, pre-sociological sense, at all) should stop. The vaporings of Olivier Roy and Gilles Kepel, the twin idiots (the "experts" whom Craig Smith tells us insist that "Islam" had nothing to do with this) should be disregarded by anyone in France who has any influence at all.
If Islam had nothing to do with it, why is "Allahu Akbar" shouted? Why are all of the rioters Muslims except possibly for a nearly invisible handful of neighbor boys who, fearful of showing that they won't join their "pals," then join in -- not out of conviction, but out of fear of what the others will think of them, or do to them? Isn't it worth investigating -- why black Africans who are non-Muslim, or black Antillais, are taking no part in these riots? Shouldn't the sparing of Muslim stores, and the attacks themselves, reveal what they are about? After all, they are merely a concentration of the year-round attacks, the vandalism of stores, the attacks on French people here and there and everywhere. Why do people vote for the likes of Le Pen or Megret, after all? They do so because they are trying to express, in most cases, their anguish and fury -- and the Respectable Parties will not allow themselves to do it, leaving only Le Pen and company to receive the votes, to be the very worst kind of hate-filled and self-defeating megaphone of such anguish.
Will Chirac and D. de V. be shown up? Will Sarkozy not merely triumph, but not undo that triumph by calling for government-supported mosques and more "integration"? Will he start making non-negotiable demands and clamping down on all mosques, radio and television channels, CD and DVD manufactures, those who trade in false-papers, those who refuse to work because they are, as Muslims, unused to real work, and the Infidels in any case owe them a living? A complete change in immigration policy, and in naturalization, so that it becomes nearly impossible for people who cannot swear, and mean it, their sole allegiance to the French (infidel) state, and to the principles, let's say, of the Declaration of the Rights of Man -- well, if that can't be done, then out you go.
And if you swear such allegiance, but are perjuring yourself, your citizenship should be revocable, and revoked.
There are many ways to change the atmosphere, to harden things so that a new understanding becomes clear among French and Muslims alike. Not a single barrel of oil will be made unavailable to the French because of this. And if there were to be a thorough cleansing of the correspondents at Le Monde, at Liberation, and on RF1, so that those who had been following the Eric-Rouleauvian pro-"Palestinian” pro-Muslim line all these years and softening up the minds of the great spongiform-brained public were sent permanently packing, that would also help.
Meanwhile, those in the outside world who claim to be interested in France and French culture, which is to say the French literary inheritance, could also help by ceasing to elevate, and treat with solemn respect, the worst in France. Even the current strivers' row of careerists and endowed-chair-sitters in Departments of Romance Literature (and not only in those departments) at American universities, must at some point, admit that literature is one thing, sociology and self-esteem studies quite another, and literary merit should be the only criterion of relevance in departments of literature. There is only so much that can be done, and the students, so unlettered themselves, need whatever they can get to undo the damage, or fill the gaps, in the pre-college period of their existence. Certain fashions are now definitely out of season; the redress of high culture, that never goes out of fashion, remains: this year's, last year's, next year's ever-fresh model. While many of the so-called "leading" universities now fail to offer a single course devoted entirely to Montaigne, to La Fontaine, to Chateaubriand, to Victor Hugo, even to Proust (who usually does get something), the same French or Romance departments may have two or three or four courses on "Francophonie" and of course on what is called, optimistically, "beur" culture, which is to say, Caliban's Revenge.
Posted by Robert at November 7, 2005 9:52 AM
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Here is what the French should do:
1) A two-state solution is required with the new Republic of Frankenstein perhaps sharing Paris as a capital;
2) In areas where the new Republic of Frankenstein does not encompass all of the Franco-Islamic peoples, the terrrible oppression of the Franco-Islamic people must cease! The Hijab must be allowed; the state must fund Islamic courts to properly administer Sharia Law; they must fund a separate Islamic school system; and, above all, all of the French people must be required to undergo sensitivity training in order to appreciate the beauty of the Islamic faith. How can the French people ever hope to understand the Franco-Islamic people unless all are taught the framework of Islam.
3) The French must tear down the terrible apartment blocks in which they have warehoused the Franco-Islamic people. They must build a proper house for each family. They must give every Franco-Islamic male a proper job which affords each man dignity and respect. The women must be given assistance with their child-rearing.
4)The new Republic of Frankenstein must be immediately given complete sovereignty. The French government should pay for arming and training its security forces. As well, the French government must do its utmost to strengthen the leadership of Frankenstein in order that their security forces can properly patrol and the police the new Republic.
Those who would question the proposals I make above should consider the wise words of Turkish Premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051107/ap_on_re_eu/france_rioting_europe_1
Turkish Premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan said France had ignored Ankara's calls for more tolerance, arguing that France's ban on head scarves in public schools triggered the riots.Posted by: Mentat"We've always told our friends in Europe that they should not lead to a clash of civilizations in order to prevent such incidents," daily Hurriyet quoted Erdogan as saying during a visit Sunday to Germany.
"We should work for an alliance between civilizations. There is a great duty which falls on the Christian and Muslim world. Europe should have evaluated this," Erdogan said. "We said it. But France did not take it into account. It did not listen to us."
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at November 7, 2005 10:14 AM
Amazing too is the laxness of talk radio in this as well. Listening to KTTH (770am Seattle) radio. Heard about 'religion of peace',a 'hijacked religion' and such nonsence from a panel that should have known better.
If we get this from our friends, who are our friends ?
Posted by: dgene at November 7, 2005 10:18 AM
"Why do people vote for the likes of Le Pen or Megret, after all?"
-- posted by Hugh
Did Le Pen make the correct call? What you deride as "hate filled speech" was built largely around his central theory that Moslem immigration would ruin France.
Well, as the demographic time bomb ticks, France is slipping over the ditch bank into ruination.
Give credit where credit is due, regardless of "political credibility," whatever that is.
PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH
How much political credibility does Jacques have right now? How about George and Condi? The only thing that keeps them hanging on is the threadbare veil of somnoprop mounted up by the centrally-controled media franchises.
How much damage has Jacques wreaked upon Europe? Will he not go down as one of the most incompetent leaders in world history?
And isn't the EU one of the biggest political disappointments ever? Blind pompous asses, the lot of them.
Posted by: Chaz MarteL 732 at November 7, 2005 10:20 AM
Also, now that lots of destruction is done and people seem to have reached their tolarence limit with the rioters and punishment seems on its way, the devious muslim apologists & imams, will start to distance themselves and their religion from the violence. Very very cunning like their leader Mo.
The imams probably think "ok we have shown them enough of our power (of destruction) now its ok to stop, afterall we want to live to show our power later on too. We must not push them tooooo much, just enough so that they fly into a impotent rage, then we start the usual tricks of Islam, religion of peace."
at November 7, 2005 10:32 AM
US infidel
As a clear partisan in the clash of civilizations, the BBC remains true to form with John Simpson -- Arabist of Arabist -- providing not just the usual rationalization of Muslim violence but now transparently advocating for it.
Thanks to the Revolution, violence even has a kind of virtue which it simply does not possess in a country like Britain. When government becomes incapable of change, the crowds in the streets have to do the changing for themselves.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4414442.stm
Posted by: Charles Martel at November 7, 2005 10:45 AM
I feel so helpless.
We at Jihad Watch predicted this situation long ago. We just didn't think that it would happen so soon.
If the French don't find their backbones soon, this is how things will play out:
1) People will flee the banlieu areas and also start to leave France itself;
2) If the Muslim immigration is not stopped, then increasingly larger parts of France will become defacto Islamic mini-states;
3)If the French government continues with its policies of appeasement, then the French government will aid and abet the Islamization of France;
4) As a result of the Islamization of France, eventually a majority Islamic party will be elected; France will join the Umma; its nuclear weapons will be trained on the remaining infidel nations; what remains of Europe will be destabilized and overrun by Islamic revolutionaries emanating from France.
For us Jihad Watchers, being right about Europe is very bittersweet.
And, as usual, what is hardest about this situation is that you cannot talk about it in public; you will never read a frank discussion of the situation in the MSM. In short, we are f*cking doomed!
Posted by: Mentat at November 7, 2005 10:52 AM
I have a question to the posters here.
I have read somewhere that some of the rioters were shouting Allahu Ahkbar - does anyone have the news source of that statement, and can they provide the Web link?
at November 7, 2005 10:53 AM
Don't worry, Hugh. The press has a fallback plan already in operation. Just in case anyone does find out that these "youths" almost all happen to be Islamofascists, they've already softened the blow. The press have already gone out of their way to avoid saying that the 10 police officers injured Sunday night were hit by SHOTGUN fire. Instead, they were hit by "fine-grain bird shot" and of course "the injuries were not considered life-threatening. One was wounded in the neck, the other in the legs."
Besides the fact that bird-shot is LETHAL within approximately 50 feet, and can cause permanent disfigurement, blindness, etc. at further ranges, I do wonder where these "poor, dissillusioned youth" managed to get hold of shotguns in the first place.
If the French police had fired bird-shot from police shotguns at the scum (instead of the other way around) do you think the word "shotgun" would be missing from the press accounts of the shootings? And, would the story have harped on the "fine-grain birdshot" used? I doubt they would say anything about the ammunition and would rather just harp on "shotgun" fired at the poor disgruntled youth (of undtermined religious affiliation, of course).
Posted by: perpster at November 7, 2005 10:55 AM
"This is one France: calm, comfortable, concerned with the good things in life. Half a mile away is another: the stained concrete slabs and high-rise blocks of the Cité des 3000 - on the fringe of Aulnay - home to people for whom, if they are lucky, the good things in life might one day include a short-term, minimum-wage job, humping bags at Charles de Gaulle airport." - Discrimination
Posted by: Shukri at November 7, 2005 10:59 AM
Hugh, could you explain why you are against Le Pen? What about Villiers (sp?)? Are you opposed to Nick Griffin and the BNP in England? They are the only 2 politicians who have studied Islam and get the big picture. If all the Jews in France flee to the US and Israel, Le Pen's remarks regarding Jews, of which I am not very knowledgeable but are negative, an absolute disqualifier? France needs someone who understands Islam. Sarkozy doesn't seem to meet that criteria and the rest are a joke. France has driven into the ditch, an Islamic ditch, and I wonder if anything can get France out of it.
If the leaders of the main parties are incapable because of corruption or ignorance or denial or (name your excuse), where do the people turn? Do they hold their noses and vote for the one who is not afraid despite their other flaws?
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at November 7, 2005 10:59 AM
French are only getting what's coming to them. You imprison people in ghettos and discriminate against them at every turn with racist hatred, what do you expect? France needs to deal with their social problems and racism first and foremost.
Of course, the Islamophobes have to crawl out of their holes to spread mud and slime in their attempts to exacerbate tensions; all the better for their book sales.
Tut.
Posted by: Shukri at November 7, 2005 11:05 AM
I'll bet that Muslim 'moderates' see their status enhanced, as they become the 'peace brokers'.
Posted by: Benjamin at November 7, 2005 11:06 AM
And did the Danes get what's coming to them, too?
Posted by: perpster at November 7, 2005 11:07 AM
Jeffreyimm, for a video clip where you can witness the "allah u akbar" shouts, see http://www.netwerk.tv/templates/videoasx.jsp?f=198614
(Dutch tv, but most interviews in French or English).
Posted by: Pistache at November 7, 2005 11:12 AM
Mentat
What you have described will undoubtedly play out in slow motion. This is only Round 1 however. Muslims are currently testing the will and policing powers of the State and will retreat for a short time to enjoy the enhanced respect (READ: fear) and welfare spending afforded them by Chirac and de Villepin after the street battles subside. The next round -- perhaps 2-3 years from now -- will be far bloodier and problematic as it will then be obvious to even the most strident leftists that Muslim violence is not about "job discrimination" or "racism" and can no longer be bought off with appeasement.
Posted by: Charles Martel at November 7, 2005 11:16 AM
But just as the Internet has proven useful to those wanting to vent their frustration and anger at the violence enveloping France, others -- those involved in the violence -- have found the Internet a useful organizational tool. Plans for further attacks have made their appearances in different blogs -- like that from "Brahim." "Nice work people," he writes. "The cops are petrified of us, everything must burn, starting Monday, the operation 'Midnight Sun' starts, tell everyone else, rendezvous for Momo and Abdul in Zone 4 ... jihad Islamia Allah Akhbar."
User "Samir's" message is just as threatening. "You don't really think that we're going to stop now? Are you stupid? It will continue, non-stop. We aren't going to let up. The French won't do anything and soon, we will be in the majority here."
- Der Spiegel Online, CYBER-RIOTING IN FRANCE: "We Aren't Going to Let Up! Are You Stupid?"
Read it all.
Posted by: Shy Guy at November 7, 2005 11:18 AM
Excellent clip. Anyone able to provide an English translation?
Posted by: perpster at November 7, 2005 11:20 AM
Shukri:
What are you worried about? France and Europe is going to fall into your Islamist lap without even a fight. You don't have to worry about us Cassandras. No one listens to us anyway.
You are just wasting your time. You should be conferring with your Islamist partners about how you will rule the infidel population of France.
Shukri, give thanks to Allah right now for the stupidity of the infidels.
Posted by: Mentat at November 7, 2005 11:20 AM
Hugh, I don't think anything positive will happen and you envision what steps France will take. What I do see happening is "dhimma flight." Out of the country . . . on one-way flights to the US! Irony of irony . . . yes to the home of the free . . . arriving in the big apple, gazing up at that beautiful lady in the harbor that their ancestors built. To Montreal and Quebec and other French speaking lands in the West. To Australia and New Zealand and other wide-open free lands who have not been overtaken(yet)from the hordes. French immigration of Jews to Israel was already at an alltime high of 2000 plus a year before the latest riots--and is sure to increase. An Israeli friend tells me that well-heeled French Jews have bought second homes(emergency shelters)in Israel should the going get tougher in Paris. So the Christian and Jews will either stop reproducing in France(too old to leave) or leave by trickle and then flood . . . while their Muslim 'countrymen' will not leave their accursed adopted homeland but remain fruitful and will multiply further. The one plus: the enrichment of Israel with new blood and the enrichment of America and Canada with Christian French and other euro's--who, despite our differences, are our cultural kin.
Posted by: biorabbi at November 7, 2005 11:21 AM
If only "jobless young men" are rioting, why would the Union of French Islamic Organizations issue a fatwa against the demonstrators?
Posted by: Paul at November 7, 2005 11:23 AM
Pistache:
Great clip. You can hear them shouting Allahu Akbar quite clearly.
Posted by: Mentat at November 7, 2005 11:32 AM
Greg Palcott, a Fox reporter, described the rioters as "North African immigrants of Muslim descent."
If similar 'troubles' were to resume in Northern Ireland, would he describe rioters there as being of Catholic or Protestant descent?
By what contorted logic does Fox news, or any other news agency for that matter, think its audience is served by such politically correct reporting?
Do otherwise intelligent reporters, like Palcott, actually believe the nonesense they're spouting, or are they just concerned about keeping their overpaid jobs?
at November 7, 2005 11:32 AM
As they say in France: "Vive Le Diference!"
Chickens have come home to roost.
Posted by: perpster at November 7, 2005 11:37 AM
"Hugh, could you explain why you are against Le Pen? What about Villiers (sp?)? Are you opposed to Nick Griffin and the BNP in England? They are the only 2 politicians who have studied Islam and get the big picture. If all the Jews in France flee to the US and Israel, Le Pen's remarks regarding Jews, of which I am not very knowledgeable but are negative, an absolute disqualifier?"
-- from a posting above
Le Pen owes his fortune to some crazed lady who left him everything. "What did you do in the war, Daddy" is a famous line. And "what would you have done in the war, Daddy" is a well-known mental game. We look at so-and-so, and ask: would he have been in the Resistance, or a collaborator, or somewhere in-between. You can't ask of everyone that he or she have been Aubrac or Vilde, and you can't always be sure if that petty thief would have been the kind who turns in Jews to the Germans and their French collaborators in order to help himself, or is the kind of loner and no-respecter-of-authority fellow who, perhaps someonoe on the lamb in the time-honored Pepe-le-Moko or Ricks of "Casablanca" fame tradition, would be a hero, and join the Free French. (For more on some of those heroes with doubtful pasts, read A. J. Liebling's wartime report from North Africa, the celebrated "Molly").
Le Pen is an antisemite of the nastiest kind, the kind for whom the death camps were a mere "detail" in the history of World War II (that was his word). That should be enough. It is enough for me. He is also the kind of complete vulgarian, in every sense, of a kind that the book "Under Cover" is full of -- you know, a little bit of Zhirinovsky, a little Father Coughlin, a little Moseley, and of course always and everywhee, a little bit of Goebbels and the inimitable Adolf Hitler. What's to like?
Megret is cleverer, outwardly more acceptable, and I haven't followed him ever since he split off from Le Pen.
Philippe Villiers has NOTHING to do with these people. He is completely respectable, and mentioning him as if he were in the same galere is not fair, not right. As far as the BNP goes, I don't know enough, but everything I do know makes me dislike them.
You know -- there were those who said in the 1930s we should support Hitler because he would stop Bolshevism. There were those who said after the war that we owed the wonderful Joseph Stalin at leas a free hand in Eastern Europe because the Russians had been so decisive in the defeat of Nazi Germany. There are those who were so entranced with the idea of Islam as a "bulwark against Communism" that they ignored what Islam had to say about us, the non-Communist Infidels.
It would be good, it would be wonderful, if some perfectly respectable people began to tell the truth about Islam. It would be wonderful not least because the BNP, and even more so Le Pen, prevent so many people -- by the nastiness or vulgarity with which they are now indelibly associated (perhaps the BNP has changed, in the way, for example, that Fini changed his own party, leading to the departure of Alessandra Mussolini and other True Believers in Fascism).
Surely everyone realizes how important it is not to be purer than Caesar's wife, but at least to keep narrowly to the subject at hand: Islam. For example, if one insists that "all immigration should stop" that is unlikely to win friends or convince everyone that it is wise to "stop all Muslim immigration" which is a different, much more limited, and much more justifiable, demand. But any hint of antisemitism, nativism, racism, is not only unacceptale on its own, but damaging to the important task of limiting the presence, and the power, of Islam in the non-Muslim countries.
Posted by: Hugh at November 7, 2005 11:44 AM
Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal has bought a large share of Fox News
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=90439
at November 7, 2005 11:53 AM
I'm pissed just reading about all those freebies! Someone find me a Yugo I can torch...
Posted by: beautifulatrocities at November 7, 2005 11:54 AM
Where is the face of the rioting "French youth?"
Why, it's astonishing how journalists can manage their way into the Palestinian Territories to crouch at the feet of molotov cocktail and rock throwing Jew haters.
Journalists risk their lives to get pictures of looters in the middle of a catagory 5 hurricaine. Didn't we see journalists in the dark heart of Liberia when vicious drug crazed gangs not only killed but ate the heart of their enemy?
How many journalists have been killed in Iraq?
Where the hell are they now? Do they actually believe no-one will figure out who these North African immigrants are?
Coming to a neighborhood near you ...
Posted by: Kemaste at November 7, 2005 11:58 AM
Time for this again........
Muhammad:-
Hey people I am a prophet!
People: -
Where are your credentials?
Muhammad: -
Here is a letter that I have written that says I am a prophet.
People: -
But this is your own words.
Muhammad: -
No this is what Allah dictated and I wrote it.
People: -
How can we know you are not lying?
Muhammad: -
You are deaf, dumb and blind and you’ll burn in hellfire. 2.171. 6.39, 8.22. 17.97
Stupid people aka Muslims: -
Whoa! What a convincing argument! We believe.
Muhammad: -
Now let us go and raid merchant caravans.
Muslims: -
But isn’t stealing unethical?
Muhammad: -
No! Because you became poor after following me and are no more working, Allah has given you the right to lay hand on other people’s property. Also they oppressed you. You can kill them. Oppression is worse than killing 2:217 Now let us attack villages without warning and take the population by surprise while they are heedless and their cattle is being watered at places of water. We will kill their fighting men and take their women and children as captives. Remember that the prettiest of the captives is my share. [Bukhari 3.46.717 ]
Muslims: -
But isn’t raping married women sin?
Muhammad: -
No! Incidentally Allah sent me a verse this morning saying it is okay to have sex with your right hand possessions. 4:24 So rape them with clear conscience. But always remember that the prettiest captive belongs to Allah and his messenger. [Bukhari1.8.367]
Also from now on you don’t have to practice coitus interruptus. Go ahead and ejaculate inside your victims "for if any soul is predestined to exist, it will exist". [Bukhari 3.46.718 5.59.459 Abu Dawood 29.29.32.95 29.29.32.96]
Faith Freedom
at November 7, 2005 12:16 PM
As usual, Hugh Fitzgerald is on target. In addition to ignorance, there is at least a whiff of soft Marxism implicit in the media interpretations of l'intifada des banlieues, especially the suggestion that economic improvement might transform the angry young Muslims of the banlieues into loyal Frenchmen. The non-negotiable root of the present crisis is to be found in Islam’s dichotomous division of the world into dar al-Islam, the domain of Islamic dominance, and dar al-harb, the regions of “war and chaos” in which Islam is yet to be dominant.
As Bat Ye'or has convincingly pointed out, in the aftermath of the Arab of embargo of 1973 the political élites of western Europe, under the leadership of France, cravenly agreed to a new Euro-Arab partnership that ultimately permitted massive Muslim immigration into Europe and guaranteed that the newcomers would possess the cultural and religious institutions capable of assuring their permanent separation from the European mainstream. As a result, a de facto millet system now exists in many, perhaps most, of the predominantly Muslim banlieues in which French legal authority effectively stops where the Muslim cités begin. Some Muslims even suggest that the “solution” to the current crisis is to make the millet system de jure. If such a proposal were ever enacted, France would be divided into Muslim and non-Muslim jurisdictions, with the Muslim districts governed by Islamic law. As far-fetched as such a proposal may seem, it is fully consistent with the dar al-Islam- dar al-harb dichotomy. What we are witnessing is only the tip of the iceberg. As the die-hard Muslims see it, all of France is destined to become dar al-Islam.
Ironically, although the Euro-Arab partnership is Gaullist in origin and motivation, Charles de Gaulle himself clearly understood the potentially destabilizing consequences of mass Muslim immigration. An important reason for his insistence on Algerian independence, in spite of bitter opposition from both the pieds noirs, the Europeans in Algeria, and the leadership of the French army, was that he saw Algérie française, the political union of France and Algeria, as leading to an unacceptable Muslim majority in metropolitan France. On March 5, 1959, De Gaulle told his confidant Alain Peyrefitte:
Try to mix oil and water…. they will separate again. The Arabs are the Arabs, the French are the French. Do you believe that the French body politic can absorb ten million Muslims, who tomorrow will be twenty million and the day after tomorrow forty million? …If all the Arabs and Berbers of Algeria are to be considered French, how could one prevent them from installing themselves in metropolitan France?...My village will no longer be called Colombey-les-Deux-Églises but Colombey-les-Deux-Mosquées! [Alain Peyrefitte, C'etait De Gaulle (Paris: Fayard, 1994), p. 54.]
De Gaulle’s apprehensions are clearly materializing in our time. In a widely-discussed 2004 interview in Die Welt (Hamburg), Bernard Lewis stated that “Europe will be Muslim by the end of the century.” Long before that happens, Europe’s unprecedented demographic transformation will have enormous strategic consequences for the United States. As the current riots demonstrate, Muslims do not have to become a numerical majority before radically transforming European politics, both domestic and foreign.
at November 7, 2005 12:25 PM
France should start deporting en masse. Even deporting for good those Muslim rioters who were born on French soil. Will the French have the guts to revoke their misbegotten citizenship, to give them the boot?
Can't I dream? France should also subsidize childbirth and children of ONLY those residents who have at least one French grandparent.
Posted by: dennisw at November 7, 2005 12:38 PM
In fairness to the MSM, they have little choice but to misreport the Eurabian riots.
As Mark Steyn pointed out on Friday, "MSM dispatches have inched close to being just plain fraudulent." But what is a poor MSM reporter to do?
PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH
If they admit that the rioters are Moslem, then nagging questions are raised about whether the creed itself is feuling the violence. Islam's scriptures are so explicit, it would be vulnerable to a sudden and massive shift of public opinion change to the negative.
PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH
If creed-as-cause gains traction, then the ridiculous "Islam is a religion of peace" somnoprop is discredited. People will sneer whenever members of the Chatting Class refer to the Moderate Moslem; it will become progressively less possible to lie to infidel citizens during these years that are so critical to the leftist dream of ruining Western Europe, Scandinavia, and the Anglophone countries.
PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH
If Islam is finally identified as a primary source of hatred, violence, and reactionism, then the social husbandry of Marx-based leftism will be brought into question. Pinning blame for such a huge social mistake on leftist leadership could lead somnolent Europeans to discard socialism for capitalism, and olympian elitism for individualism.
PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH
The dream of suicide-by-Moslem hangs in the balance. But the elites can still win out.
For example, I found out last night from the putatively conservative Fox News Channel that "these French youths are rioting because the North Africans are going through a rough period as far as housing and economics."
PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH
This first round of religious riots in Eurabia could actually give socialism a temporary boost, thereby providing additional political camouflauge and precious time until the Moslem Breeding Project is finally able to surpass the demographic critical mass, marking the point of no return and our total long-term commitment to multicultral delusion.
Posted by: Chaz MarteL 732 at November 7, 2005 12:38 PM
Hugh wrote...Philippe Villiers has NOTHING to do with these people. He is completely respectable, and mentioning him as if he were in the same galere is not fair, not right. As far as the BNP goes, I don't know enough, but everything I do know makes me dislike them. ..
There was no intentional implied lumping of Villiers with Le Pen by me. In fact I have been impressed with Villiers statements, although I have not seen any comment by him regarding the current infifada.
Nick Griffin, in my opinion, has been reforming BNP. At their website, there is a video interview with him regarding how he has changed the BNP. The old platform (antisemitism, etc) has changed. The emphasis now is -out of the EU, immigration reform, anti globalization - all that I agree with.
What is clear is that France needs a stong, unflinching leader who understands the threat of Islam, and the pickings are mighty slim.
at November 7, 2005 1:00 PM
"No! Incidentally Allah sent me a verse this morning saying it is okay to have sex with your right hand..."
-- posted by Carolyn2 recounting the words of the Holy Prophet
Thank God!
For a while there I was looking at three consecutive life sentences with no possible parole.
Posted by: Chaz MarteL 732 at November 7, 2005 2:22 PM
Hugh,
I read this site daily. I enjoy the humor here. I am empatheic to the rage and frustration expressed by JWs. My meager ISLAM knowledge began with Richard Scaff's history of this cult of evil many years ago. Dr. Bostom's "The Legacy of Jihad", Robert's wonderful book, and the internet have all expanded my old suspicions.
Traveling in Egypt and Northern Sudan in the late 80's gave me new found relish for life. But for the grace of God, I and my wife would briefly sprouted daisys or weeds in the desert sands.
While education of this terror is an absolute requirement in the fight against this montrosity and perversion of humanity, I believe that name calling of these 'less than human creations' is fun but does not provide a crystal clear identity.
ISLAM may be named many things but we should ALWAYS refer to it as EVIL. Evil incarnate that allows its adherents to enjoy doing the most bestial things to others. We know that confined to themselves they turn on each other with the same venom. Witness their backbiting and fighting in The Lawrence of Arabia movie.
If we - you, I, all JWs, constantly refer to ISLAM and its savages as evil perhaps this simple identification, EVIL, will cut through the fog of empty rhetoric used by politicians, the press, and other appeasers.
Islamics are not afraid of calling us evil.
Let us all be more direct and help our other dhimmis wake up and confront the beast. Confront this beast with the one and only thing it respects...fear, fear writ large upon their hearts.
I, as a Christain, ask all of my fellow JWs to pray in your own way for our European brethren.
Posted by: GA_boy at November 7, 2005 3:17 PM
Immigrants are expected to assimilate. Deport them if they refuse.
Posted by: epg at November 7, 2005 4:33 PM
"Tut"!? I guess he's not even pretending to be for "peace".
Posted by: JadeDragoness at November 7, 2005 9:33 PM
Bruce Thornton, at victorhanson.com, also takes the press coverage to task here:
Troubling "Facts" of the Paris Riots
Posted by: Caroline at November 7, 2005 10:20 PM
Just watched Christiane Amanpour from CNN interviewing "youth's" in Paris.
She swallowed the "discrimination-racist-French-victimization" -
BS hook line and sinker!
Her whole presentation was dripping PC, one would have thought that after all these years reporting from Muslim-countries and on Islamic terrorism she would have at least some basic understanding of what's going on here.
Not a word, not a whisper....
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at November 8, 2005 6:15 AM
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