There should be no surprise here. The French police have been effectively emasculated by Chirac and the French left.

While the insurgency seems to be loosing steam, the police continue to take it in the shorts. They want to bring order from all this chaos, but the government is now afraid of the Muslim reaction to police authority.

The Millet system is alive and well in France. Without another French revolution I see no hope for the French people.

I expect we will see many French emigrating to Canada and the US soon. They have lost control of their country and are unable to see where this has happened.

I shake my head in disbelief, but there it is - Eurabia incarnate.

Posted by: a10billr at November 13, 2005 8:49 AM

A10billr: You must remember that the Left is our staunch ally in the defense of Western Civilization. -MJ

Posted by: Mad_Jack at November 13, 2005 9:02 AM

We have plans to take over the nuclear weapons in Pakistan, or eliminate them when needed. Are there plans that are currently up to date to take over French nuclear weapons?

What about the nuclear power industry? What happens to the world when that nuclear fuel is under the Satanic control of Isamists?

How many will die before the lefists wake up? I hope those who die are all leftists, but that is not realistic. We will all suffer from the idiocy of Chirac and American stooges like Boxer, Durbin, Schumer, Kennedy, Reid, Murray, Levin, Biden, Kerry, Clinton, Pelosi and Dean.

Posted by: leaddog2 at November 13, 2005 9:54 AM

sp. Isamists .... Islamists.. Islamofascists = TOTAL EVIL

Posted by: leaddog2 at November 13, 2005 9:55 AM

If the French start coming to the US, they DAMN sure better leave their bullsh!t mindset back in Franistan. Don't come here for refuge and bring the disease with you.

Posted by: t-ham at November 13, 2005 9:59 AM

Mad Jack:

Now I see where you got your name! (Only kidding)

Posted by: a10billr at November 13, 2005 9:59 AM

t ham:

If the French bring anything with them it will be Islamaphobia.

Posted by: a10billr at November 13, 2005 10:01 AM

From everything I have read, the French people are in shock and disbelief. For years they looked the other way in a state of complete denial.

Make no mistake here, the average Frenchman hates anything to do with Islam.

For some reason, the government (theirs and ours) seems to have an unbounded ability to misread or ignore the wishes of the people. And a real fear of lost votes from the Mooslem community.

I see a quickly growing awareness of things Islamic in America, and more so in Australia (God bless 'em). Thanks to people like Robert Spencer we will see a complete transformation in the way Americans see Mooooslems.

It's a little soon to say for sure, but I really believe we are seeing true sea change here and CAIR doesn't like what it sees. Time will tell, but I see a change, and it gladdens my heart.

Posted by: a10billr at November 13, 2005 10:14 AM

The Germans are no better. I listened to a TV-discussion today and a greeney by the name of Roth said it just 'has to be out of fairness that in bavarian villages with 100 Mohammedans are mosque should be next to a church and the muezzin should be allowed to call as loud as the church-bells. The conservative tried to talk sense but was totally rolled by her and the moderator who were full of egalitarian crap.

Latest on the french intifadah:

Just now it was reported that TV and News-services should stop reporting on it because "it only encourages these "youths" to do more damage and if it is not reported it might just fade away..."

I wonder if Chirac,- the grand-master of grimaces- is looking to get asylum in Saudi Arabia once the French go after him. It won't be long because the French are already organizing themselves in vigilante-groups and militias. Who can blame them?

Now I'm off to catch a plane. Will be back in Australia Tuesday morning...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at November 13, 2005 10:28 AM

Brave French police, if you are reading this, I hear there is a virus infecting your ranks. It's called the Bleu flu.

Mon ami, you look a little flushed ...

Posted by: Kemaste at November 13, 2005 10:58 AM

A10billr

Thanks for what you say about the French. In many US blogs it's become a widespread habit to spit on the French for what our dictator Shiraq and his accomplices say or for what you can read or hear in the French Pravda-like media. But for God's sake don't forget that 20% of the French voted for Le Pen (up to 40%+ in some areas), not because they had all of a sudden turned into bloodthirsty neonazis but because they have no other way to show their refusal of Eurabia.
If I had to make my opinion about the Americans for what I saw on CNN about the French Intifada, in particular C.Amanpour I would say they all are f@@@@ leftists, ready to give away Europe to the Muslim fascists.
So??

Posted by: ERWAN NORTH MAGHREB at November 13, 2005 11:06 AM

Edwan - You pegged well the subversive CNN and Amanpour - please do not take them as representing mainstream America. The American people who know about the situation are appalled at the idea of loosing Europe to Islamo-fascists. Our fathers and grandfathers fought to save Europe from itself twice in the last century.

The lack of understanding among many Americans of the dire situation throughout Europe is directly traceable to ignorance, P.C. liberalism, and a Saudi-Muslim philia in our Whitehouse, State Dempartment and TV media that seems to know no bounds.

Posted by: Jimmy Bones at November 13, 2005 11:31 AM

a10billr:
"If the French bring anything with them it will be Islamaphobia."

I am french and I have been living in the states for 8 years now. When I came here I was already islamophobic. Bu tyou have to understand that most french (that I know) do not want to confront the problem of Islam in France, in Europe or in the world. Even talking about it is a source of embarassment. They will not address the issue period. It is a taboo subject.

Posted by: JB1 at November 13, 2005 11:45 AM

Erwan;

My apologies. Like many, I seem to be painting with too broad a brush when trying to make a point. France, like the US, is not always the country portrayed by it's politicians. While I suspect that the PC/MC ideology in France may be a bit more prevalent, or at least visible, than in the US, possibly due to something related to France being a more homogenous country, current conditions aside, than the US melting pot, I realize, and have no doubt, that there is a vast majority of fiercely proud people in both who are disgusted at what is being allowed, even encouraged, to happen to our countries.

I genuinely hope that we, the people with antibodies to the viral fallacy of the "benefits" of M/C, can save our countries, and Western civilization, from the dangers at hand. The French helped us in our revolution, we helped the French during two world wars. We are definitely not the same, but we have too much in common to ignore our mutual history.

Just as brothers fight amongst themselves and allow themselves the luxury of insulting and denigrating each other in "family squabbles", yet stand together when one or another is threatened, we must remember that what binds us is stronger than what divides us.

Having said that, bro', you guys still really piss me off sometimes.

Posted by: t-ham at November 13, 2005 11:46 AM

T-Ham, you are HILARIOUS!
They do really piss me off sometimes too. So do ... some Americans sometimes as well.
Nice to laugh after what we've been through for more than 2 weeks over here.
Cheers

Posted by: ERWAN NORTH MAGHREB at November 13, 2005 11:55 AM

T-ham, it's Farnaghistan. The term Farangi, which migrated as far east as Thailand, where it became farang, was originally what the Turks and Arabs called the Franks.

Mad-Jack. I'd like to believe that the Left is a staunch ally against terror, but doubt it. It's chief enemy is the West's Christian tradition, followed by the Jews (who provided the seedbed from which the Christian tradition grew), and then everything else. A Christian church may elect its elders and deacons and preach brotherly love until it's blue in the face, but as long as it doesn't buy the Left's program for self-destruction, it is "fascist fundamentalism" incarnate. The Left is radical Islamicism's ally, since radical Islamicism is now providing the human cannon-fodder for the Left's long-standing war on the West.

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Posted by: Pistache at November 13, 2005 12:43 PM

A10billr: You must remember that the Left is our staunch ally in the defense of Western Civilization. -MJ
Posted by: Mad_Jack

LMAO! Surely you forgot to add the sarcasm tag (/s)

It's amazing that the French people and their government have forgotten their own history and lessons learned from it so quickly. By doing so, they are doomed to repeat it.

Hopefully Here in North America we can study it and learn from it so we don't make the same mistakes. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like any of our politicians, and a good part of the population have bothered to study history, study Islamic history specifically. If our politicians did, they wouldn't be calling Islam a "religion of peace" because nowhere in it's entire history has it ever been in that state to earn that description.

Hopefully The French, and the American's leftists- Boxer, Durbin, Schumer, Kennedy, Reid, Murray, Levin, Biden, Kerry, Clinton, Pelosi and Dean and their supporters will study Andre Servier's book on the mind and history of the Musulman and the Caliphate, and learn of it's brutal and bloody past before they invite it upon us again.

Inside the mind of the Muslim, and the brutal history of the caliphate

Posted by: Mullahmasher at November 13, 2005 1:37 PM

Well, there's at least a group in the Netherlands that's waking up.

I just wonder how long it will be before people like me will get labelled racist (which, given my circle of friends and acquaintances, not to mention my girlfriend, would be very, very funny indeed).

Posted by: asmodai at November 13, 2005 1:51 PM

asmodai-

Islam isn't a race, so don't worry about that label. Perhaps if you isolate the originators of the cult, the Arabs, otherwize known as Bedouin camel drivers and stay focused on that group only, you may earn that title, however exposing the brutal and bloodthirty history of these murdering robbers isn't racism, it's simply the truth.

Posted by: Mullahmasher at November 13, 2005 2:03 PM

JB1:

If what you say about French denial is true, then France is truly finished. Soon the great works of architecture, sculpture, paintings, literature, and music will be but a footnote in history, destroyed by Islam.

I am truly saddened.

Posted by: a10billr at November 13, 2005 2:19 PM

Pistache
"Recherche de volontaires francophones."

Salut Pistache,
Je suis volontaire pour aider. j'ai lu le livre et je peux traduire.

Hi Pistache,
I am willing to help. I have read his book and I can translate.

Posted by: JB1 at November 13, 2005 2:23 PM

asmodai
"I just wonder how long it will be before people like me will get labelled racist (which, given my circle of friends and acquaintances, not to mention my girlfriend, would be very, very funny indeed)."

I have been labelled racist already. Context: I was having a discussion with a college muslim student in a US university. My argument was that there was no radical islam but that Islam is radical. I supported my opinion on the birth of islam, the life of their prophet, the spread of islam, the sunna writings and current events. Well... I got it really fast. My answer to that accusation came as fast: I can not be racist since muslims are from many different ethnicities. Therefore I could be labelled as islamophobe since I reject the muslim religion and culture.

Proud to be a Kafir :O)

Posted by: JB1 at November 13, 2005 2:31 PM

From A10billr above

" JB1:

If what you say about French denial is true, then France is truly finished. Soon the great works of architecture, sculpture, paintings, literature, and music will be but a footnote in history, destroyed by Islam. ..."

That is not the worst of it. As someone else noted above, there are the French nukes. Those are a real problem for the U.S. As long as France has nukes, the U.S. cannot allow an Islamic takeover, any more than we can allow Iranian nukes.

But who in the Beltway realizes this and the potential consequences? If we have to storm the Normandy beaches again, we ought to get on with a general mobilization right away. It took 4 years of general mobilization in WWII ('40-'44)before we could hit Normandy. On the other hand there is no German army to resist now. But by then one wonders how much success thae jihadists will have achieved in taking ove France? It is a moot question whether there is enough time for America to mobilize its politicians, people, and its armed forces fast enough to save France.

Posted by: Jimmy Bones at November 13, 2005 2:38 PM

a10billr:
"If what you say about French denial is true, then France is truly finished. Soon the great works of architecture, sculpture, paintings, literature, and music will be but a footnote in history, destroyed by Islam."

As a matter of fact I just spent 2 hours with a good friend of mine. He is police officer in France. He is the most sane french man I know. He recognizes the problem but has no knowledge of Islam history and therefore the extent of the danger. I bellieve (not a fact) many people are like him. The problem is that even if people want to do something they can't.
1/. Voting seem to be inneficient. Look at the french vote regarding ratifying the European Union. they turned it down but the politicians are moving forward anyway by proposing to integrate Turkey.
2/. French people have everything to lose by reacting and assuming their security. The mob has nothing to lose and justice is on their side.
3/. PC is immobilizing mental reactivity (if you speak about islam in a negative way you are racist). On the same note, people are constantly brainwashed by the media.
4/. As long as Paris sensu stricto (not the suburbian enclaves) will not be hit, most people will ignore the situation entirely.

But I could be wrong. ;O)

Posted by: JB1 at November 13, 2005 2:45 PM

"I expect we will see many French emigrating to Canada and the US soon."

Oh, no!

Posted by: have_mercy at November 13, 2005 2:45 PM

The French are far worse than the Muslims -- but their food is way better...

Posted by: jsla at November 13, 2005 2:55 PM

have_mercy:
"I expect we will see many French emigrating to Canada and the US soon."

Too late, I am.
My father already has. he is an american citizen now and feels SO MUCH happier paying taxes in the US. ;O)

Posted by: JB1 at November 13, 2005 2:58 PM

Even though many people will die, sadly there is only one way to save france now. The police must all strike. come on France is famous for its strikes. This will send a clear message to the government. Also as the rioting spirals out of control, Chirac will have no other option but to call in the army.

Posted by: pissedoffcanadian at November 13, 2005 3:23 PM

What do you want to bet that Chirac is a 33d degree Freemason and Shriner who has taken the oath that "Allah, the god of Arab Moslem and Mohammedan, the god of our fathers...."? is in fact a defacto Muslim as are all Shriners and holders of the 33d degree.

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at November 13, 2005 3:47 PM

It's ridiculous to jail French policemen who are trying to stop the rioting. It's not the fault of the police but of the French government that should have called in the military a long time ago.The French government looks down its nose at America but when the National Guard arrived in New Orleans one of the first things they did was kill six armed looters. The armed presence of the military combined with the real possiblity of death quickly ended looting in NO.

There's good news though. FOX news is reporting that a new poll shows that 70% of the French people disapprove of Chirac's handling of the riots. The same poll shows the over 50% favor Szarskoy(sp) to lead the government. The FOX reporter says the poll suggests a hardening of attitudes towards the rioters.

Posted by: Roxane at November 13, 2005 3:56 PM

Kepha ~

Pay absolutely no attention to the slavish efforts of the Left: to de-fang our civilization; to render us morally incapable of rational self-defense; to push Christianity to the fringes of public life and replace it with a multiculturalism amenable to any depravity, yet utterly hostile to the notion of objective truth; to provide aid and comfort to our violent enemies in war; to rob us of our history; to undermine individual rights in the name of group entitlements; to usurp private property and denigrate honest gain; to destroy our language.

Surely, the Left doesn't dance in glee at the notion of the Western world dying, finally, at the hands of Islam.

Surely.

Mad Jack

Posted by: Mad_Jack at November 13, 2005 3:56 PM

THE EU REWARDS THE RIOTERS!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4434026.stm

This is a very dangerous precident, the EU are pledging " 50m euros ($59m; £34m) by the European Union to help recover from more than two weeks of rioting in poor city suburbs."

meanwhile the liberal western media ignores the fact that these rioters are thugs, scum, 1 man beaten to death, a disabled woamn burnt alive on a bus, last night in lyon a burning car rammed into a retirement home.

yet we're constantly bombarded with vague reports from CNN, the BBC which almost sympathises with this rabble.

from day one the french authorities should've sent in battle hardened French Foreign Legionaires.

Posted by: leom at November 13, 2005 5:13 PM

Pistache:
You are exactly right. More of Robert Spencer's books need to be traslated into French!

Posted by: Johnathan at November 13, 2005 6:35 PM

If the governments in France, and Eurabia in general do not represent the people, then why do the people keep on voting for them?

It is often said - that we get the government that we deserve. If France is anything like Australia, the reason the politicians scramble to get the Muslim vote is because a pressure group does not need over 50% to control the government.

As the Greens here have wised up to, the population generally votes almost 51:49; hence a few percentage points either way from a pressure group holds sway with ANY government. That's the sad thing about our democracies today. We have politicians who care more about their hip pocket than they do about the people they are meant to serve, combine that with voting habits, and well, you have self serving politicians.

Hence indiscriminate immigration is not only a good way to line your pockets (like Islamic Oil money bribes - for which I have no proof, but firmly believe it is going on), but a politcial party can today, through immigration create whole new demographics in electorates that will vote for them and keep them in power (very short sighted). Politians don't give a s$^t about "Multi-culturalism" - they merely use it to keep themseles in a job, and keep the economy growing (cheap labour, increased property prices as the immigrants need to live somewhere etc, which means increases in property taxes etc). The Left play along for their own reasons.

Nothing will solve this Islamic problem, except a grass roots revolution from the infidels (whoa! I just commited a crime of terror in Australia by saying such things! - You Yanks - DON'T EVER loose your freedom of speech!)

I agree with an above post - the French police should go on strike. After all their idiot President has more loyalty to Eurabia than he does his own French homeland.

Posted by: 3rdtimelucky at November 13, 2005 8:09 PM

I predict a Rodney King-style incident to come out of all this.

Posted by: JadeDragoness at November 13, 2005 8:35 PM

So, the EU is pledging 50 million Euros to help recover from the rioting.

Let's see, 50,000,000 Euros divided by 6,500 automobiles burned up, equals 7,692 Euros per automobile. On average, that may not be very far from their values.

I say just turn the money over to the insurance companies so they don't go bankrupt or have to raise their rates to astronomical heights.. That also gives the companies an out from declaring force majeure or act of civil war and refusing to pay to the policyholders and lenders.

If an insurance company refuses to pay, would a bank make any more auto loans? What would happen to the French car market? Are non-muslims now going to move to "safer" areas? What happens to apartment rents? If rents fall in the buildings left, does maintenance decline? Can you protect your car with a bumper sticker that says "Allah Akbar"?

The French people have ALL been hurt by these riots. Some of them just don't know it yet. Maybe in their everyday lives, they will one by one come to realize that they have been living a lie, or, really, many lies. If they can wake up, they may have a chance, but it better be plenty damn fast.

The French can be tough and ruthless. They will certainly have to be tough and ruthless to survive this as a People. So far, their leaders are leading them in the wrong direction. To the politicians whose only tools are Socialist prescriptions, the whole world looks like an opportunity to apply more Socialist prescriptions. The French will not stand a chance until they ruthlessly throw out the rascals and get new rascals.

Posted by: texan at November 14, 2005 12:40 AM

JB1,

being an atheist and buddhist myself I already rank high on the kafir list yes.

For the 'good news' people, in the south of Rotterdam some four cars were burned down and eleven others were wrecked by throwing in the windows and scratching the exterior with sharp objects. This happened last Saturday night. The people responsible were described as 'a large group'. No identification at all about the composition of the group though, which, knowing Dutch newspapers, typically means it concerns Maroccans. Also keeping in mind the areas where this happened, Vreewijk and Afrikaanderwijk, the muslim population is quite large. It is close bij the Feijenoord area where they are building a huge mosque.

A local politian was reported stating: "The term imitation behaviour seems to be the most appropriate," according to municipality leader (deelraadsvoorzitter) Wim Straasheijm. "Other than that any parallel with France ceases to exist."
Straasheijm also has no indication that 'something is brewing' in his municipality.

Posted by: asmodai at November 14, 2005 1:21 AM

You Europeans (all of you, not just the French) need to regain some sense.

Branded a racist if you complain about islam? Well, islam is not a race, there are white mohammadans and black Christians. Tell people you want to expel all of the white mohammadans and grant immediate citizenship to black Christians. So much for racism. Oh, say you'd like to grant citizenship to Hindus, Sikhs, and other dark nonnuslims. It isn't about skin color! Islam is like a nazi religion, and I thought nazism was illegal in lots of parts of Europe.

Don't know what else to do? How about counter demonstrations? How about arming yourselves for the inevitable societal breakdown? How about refusing to pay taxes, since the government isn't doing much.

How about looking at Denmark, which seems to be
doing a great job standing up to these scum.

There are very few things that are impossible, but
you need the will to survive, DAMN YOU!

And yes, many in the USA are sleepwalking too,
and need to be woken. But there is (and I know
Europeans and US do-gooders detest it) a capacity
for violence that Americans haven't lost, which will probably be our salvation.

Posted by: American at November 14, 2005 7:05 PM

the worst kind of appeasemt towards the crimnal elements ever displayed by a President of Countary who was roaringh agaist the iraq invasion, so that his arab brothers do not get upset.

Posted by: helegu max at November 14, 2005 7:09 PM