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November 30, 2005

Norway staging post for terrorists

Fruits of Multiculturalism Update from Aftenposten, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:

The Norwegian Police Security Service (PST) has other persons linked to the 2004 terrorist attack in Madrid and recent terrorism arrests in Italy under surveillance.

The PST believes that Norway is used by 'freelance' terrorists as a place to lie low and plan activities, newspaper VG reports.

By using false identities and convincing cover stories these persons can stay hidden in Norway for long periods, posing as asylum seekers, tourists, or by arranging unfounded family reunions.

Posted by Robert at November 30, 2005 8:45 AM
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WHY THE SILENCE
Of Pakistani origin Samira Munir proclaimed herself to be a muslim. She was not, however, your average muslim woman, not by a long shot. For those familiar with Irshad Manji, the Canadian author who wrote the book The Trouble With Islam and runs the website Muslim Refusenik Samira Munir can probably be best described as a Norwegian counterpart or equivalent of Irshad Manji.

Samira spoke relentlessly and very courageously for the rights of women in the muslim immigrant community in Norway, how they were faced with threats of forced marriages, so called honour-killings and female sexual mutilation. She also warned Norwegian politicians of dire consequences of their neglect and indifference. As a matter of fact she entered politics herself. Her choice of party, however, will probably always remain a mystery. Why would someone, so critical of islam, albeit as a muslim from the inside, choose The Norwegian Conservatives – The Party of Terror, Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing, and probably the most pathetic crowd of islamophile traitors to be found anywhere in Norwegian politics?

Be that as it may, she was elected to the municipal assembly in Oslo as a representative for The Conservatives. As one would expect she received no support whatsoever in her struggle for the rights of muslim immigrant women. Quite the contrary, one of her party colleagues, a real muslim, threatened her with a lawsuit for some of her statements. Rumours have it that within the party she was not looked upon favourably at all, they feared that her outspoken critics of muslim leaders may cost them muslim votes. Her proposals to improve the conditions for muslim women in Norway were continuously sabotaged and backstabbed by the rest of the party, including a proposal to copy the French ban on hijab i public schools. She spoke about how muslim girls who in public said they wore hijab of their own free will in private confided in her that they were being forced and threatened to do so, and urged her to carry on being a voice for those who had neither the possibility nor the courage to speak for themselves.

It did not, however, stop at that. In spite of the fact that she was a Norwegian citizen, elected to a Norwegian municipal assembly, she was twice called in to the Pakistani ambassador to Norway. Exactly what he told her remains unknown, but obviuously Pakistani authorities were highly critical of the role she played in Norwegian politics in general, and in local politics in Oslo in particular. This kind of interference by a foreign embassy in internal Norwegian affairs is no less that outrageous, and should have caused a formal protest from Norway to Pakistan. The Norwegian foreign minister was informed about it, but being from The Party of Terror, Apartheid & Ethnic Cleansing himself, he did nothing about it.

But it did not stop at that either. In several interviews she told that she was being harassed and receiving death threats, not only against herself, but also against her family.

Then, on November 14, 2005, the website of Human Rights Service brought the shocking news that Samira had died under circumtannces which still seem mysterious, to say the least. The story was that she had been run over by a train at a station on one of the suburban lines in Oslo. For someone who recently had claimed she was receiving almost daily death threats this seemed highly suspicious. It was made even more suspicious by the fact that the PC media in Norway for several days did not mention by a single word what had happened. Only a few Christian newspapers which do not belong to the islamophile dhimmitude which characterize Norwegian Christianity did mention the story. Earlier the same day as she was killed she had participated in a radio discussion where she defended the ban on hijab in universities in Turkey.

After several days the mainstream Norwegian media eventually broke the story, but in a very muted way. Between the lines they kind of suggested that she had taken her own life, and that out of “respect” one should not try and dig deeper into the story. This just does not wash. Not so very long ago a relatively prominent Norwegian politician committed suicide, and that was ruthlessly scrutinized by the very same media which now claims that people who commit suicide should be left in peace.

Although the mainstream media hardly reported the case at all there has of course been a lot of discussions about it in Norwegian internet forums. Many seem convinced that she was murdered by some Norwegian muslims who pushed her into the track as a train was passing. Some suggest she was doped and placed on the tracks to await an arriving train. The latter is based on the fact that one report claimed she was killed between two stations, rather than at a particulalar station. Considering all the hatred and all the threats she had received from muslims in Norway that does not seem unlikely, to say the least. The fact that the Pakistani ambassador had summoned her twice may even suggest that the Pakistani ISI (Interservice Intelligence) was involved.

As far as the police is concerned they concluded in virtually no time at all that “there was nothing to suggest that her death had anything to do with any criminal act”. Of course one would expect no other conclusion from the pathetic Norwegian sharia-cops. That is exactly what they would say even if they had video footage from the surveillace cameras at the station showing Osama bin Laden personally pushing her in front of the train. What can one expect from a police force who was unable to establish a motive when an imam attacked the pilots of a commuter flight in Norway with an axe, trying to crash the plane ? May we suggest thet take a look at the Koran, for instance 9:5, 9:29 and 47:4.

There are a lot of uncertainties about Samira’s tragic death. As a matter of fact there is only one thing one can be certain about: No matter what actually happened, and no matter what the police knows about it, they would say what they are saying. Anything else would be politically incorrect, and unthinkable. Countless examples have long since eliminated the last piece of credibility of the Norwegian police in any matters relating to islam. There may still be a few decent and honest officers left, but they are getting fewer and farther between all the time.

But even if it was a suicide it does not add up. A healthy 42 year old women, and the mother of two, does not just jump in front of a train for no reason. As a matter of fact there has to be a very good reason. If that is what actually happened we will probably never know the true reason in detail, but a few facts we do know. We know that both she and her family were being harassed and received death threats, and we know she was being very concerned about the development of the muslim immigrant community in Norway, becoming ever more radical and extremist. The pressure against her, and the bleak outlook for the future can surely be enough to drive a person to commit suicide, and the lack of support from within the conservative party most certainly did not make it any better. So even if the final act was one of her own choosing her blood remains on the hands of Norwegian muslims and their islamophile friends in the conservative party.

For those of us who know that islam cannot ever be reformed to anything even remotely resembling civilization it may sometimes be difficult to know how to relate to people like Samira Munir, or Irshad Manji for that matter. They proclaim themselves to be muslims, but attack islam from within, trying to reform and modernize it. The only response they get from the vast majority of muslims is hatred, threats and sometimes ultimately death. It may sound cynical, but in a way we need them, because their fate serves to demonstrate how utterly futile their efforts are. Does that mean we should support them ? No it does not ! Supporting them is supporting something which logic and reason show is impossible.

This does not mean that people like Samira are not honest in their attempts to change islam. They must not be confused with those who claim that “islam is a religion of peace”. Supporting them is, however, supporting a misunderstanding, but not a lie. Supporting a misunderstanding is still supporting something wrong. There can be only one offer and one challenge to ALL muslims, even to those who honestly try to reform islam from within: Renounce your satanic cult completely and unconditionally, and condemn it as the worst disaster which has ever befallen mankind. . Samira Munir never got that far, but that only goes to show how difficult it may be for those born into and under this curse to break free, it goes to show the truth in what the hindu website Truth Alone Triumphs says about islam:

“It eats away at the very foundation of humanity which is an individual's ability to think individually and act accordingly.”

For Samira Munir some of that ability was still intact, and it seemed to grow stronger as time passed by. In spite of the risks she must have known it involved she chose to act upon it, to speak out, and for that she paid the ultimate price, one way or the other. May she rest in peace, and may her memory be an inspiration both to those of us who know that islam cannot be reformed, and to those taking up the even heavier challenge from within. May more muslims not only follow in her footsteps, but reach further than she ever did before her untimely death. May those she spoke for manage to walk the last mile and finally break completely the chains she struggled with until the end.

Prithivi

Posted by: shiva [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2005 10:13 AM

Shiva
Am glad you brought this sad news to our attention! Media have NOT reported anything about
this woman : at least I've seen not a scrap of info about her when trawling through usual newspapers... It certainly is difficult to believe a healthy 42 yr woman [with 2 children] would throw herself under a train. Am going to try Googling her name in a moment.

Posted by: Morgane [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2005 1:36 PM

Morgane
I dont think you will find much,This one is really being sweep under the carpet.
I am surprised no reaction here either
The Silence of Dimmies now strikes JW/DW scary

Posted by: shiva [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2005 11:04 PM

Shiva,

She didn't kill herself. When a woman is on a mission like Samira was she would never kill herself because she knew she was doing the right thing and to kill herself would have given her enemies just what they wanted. We're like that. Tell me I can't do something and I'll fight you to the end to prove you wrong.

No, Samira didn't kill herself. The religion of peace struck again.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 30, 2005 11:13 PM

"Why would someone, so critical of islam, albeit as a muslim from the inside, choose The Norwegian Conservatives – The Party of Terror, Apartheid and Ethnic Cleansing, and probably the most pathetic crowd of islamophile traitors to be found anywhere in Norwegian politics?"

This sounds suspiciously like the typical Leftist European vilification of right-wing parties as "racist", of the type that smears someone like Le Pen, about whom I can still find nothing egregiously objectionable.

If Samira chose them, you can bet it was because (as with the Leftist party that ostracized Ayaan Hirsi Ali in Holland) they were the only ones willing to support her. Shame on Leftists.

Posted by: Dr. Pepper [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2005 12:48 AM

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