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He's got an "active fantasy life." Involving real guns. "Sentencing puzzle: family man or radical Muslim?," from AP, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:
TACOMA, Wash. -- Is Zaid Mu'min a mainstream Muslim with "an active fantasy life" or a radical preparing for holy war? Nearly five hours of testimony failed to clear up the mystery.In the end, U.S. District Judge Ronald B. Leighton went with the sentence government lawyers proposed, four years and nine months in prison for being a felon in possession of guns.
"Clearly this case represents a picture in contrasts," Leighton said Tuesday. "I don't know who the real Mr. Mu'min is."...
Assistant U.S. attorney William H. Redkey Jr. recommended the low end of the standard range after Mu'min pleaded guilty in April to being a felon in possession of guns, asserting that prison time was justified because Mu'min hung out in a south Seattle barber shop where radical Muslims talked "jihad smack."
Federal agents raided Mu'min's house on Nov. 18, 2004, as part of an investigation by the Seattle Joint Terrorism Task Force and found an AK-47 rifle with a scope, a Ruger .22-caliber pistol, a Glock .45-caliber pistol, a Browning .38-caliber pistol, a CIA manual on explosives, an Army sniper manual and instruction booklets on urban combat and the use of poisons to kill.
Mu'min's wife Jacquelynn said the guns were hers.
Mu'min told the judge he was just curious about different reading materials and used some of the tactical guides in his work teaching children how to keep themselves safe.
"I don't find or conclude that Mr. Mu'min is a terrorist or someone with terrorist leanings," Leighton said. But he added that Mu'min's explanations about the reading material and the guns "didn't resonate" with him.
Peter Coleman, 44, a government informant who admitted to the court that he committed robberies and assaults to support "a jihad movement," testified that he met Mu'min at the barbershop and learned that Mu'min was providing violent literature to the shop owner and giving martial arts-type jihad readiness training in a Seattle apartment complex.
However, under High's questioning, Coleman said he had never seen Mu'min provide jihad training, didn't know Mu'min provided any literature and didn't know why Mu'min was there.
Mu'min, who converted to Islam in prison in the early 1990s, told the judge, "I am an American. I am not a terrorist. I just happen to be a Muslim." He didn't deny talking to men in the barbershop but said it was while he waited for his Arabic instructor to arrive to teach a class in the shopping complex.
Redkey told the judge Mu'min was either a radical Muslim preparing for jihad, a mainstream Muslim with idle fantasies or a "sleeper" terrorist.
"I'm inclined to think he's got an active fantasy life," Redkey said. "My view is that 57 months in prison will be enough to find out who the real Mr. Mu'min is, and to deter others from indulging in active fantasies."
Posted by Robert at November 30, 2005 10:01 AM
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When scientists finally perfect a blood test for determining which 'moderate' Muslim 'talking jihad smack' is serious, I'll feel much better. Until then, we can't Muslim immigration a moment too soon. Superior numbers always turns the talk into reality.
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at November 30, 2005 10:51 AM
correction: ..."stop" Muslim immigration...
I believe PC is going to turn us into Europe before even one politician says the obvious.
Posted by: Beagle at November 30, 2005 10:54 AM
A Muslim with an active fantasy life?
Say it ain't so Mo'!
Actually this fine gentleman is merely emulating the life of his prophet as the Koran commands him to do. And where did Mohammed's revelations and Mohammed's Allah come from but from Muhammad's extended fantasies in the cold Arabian nighttime desert? Some say his epileptic fits generated his so called divine revelations. Which are of course today's Koran
at November 30, 2005 11:07 AM
"I'm inclined to think he's got an active fantasy life," Redkey said. "My view is that 57 months in prison will be enough to find out who the real Mr. Mu'min is, and to deter others from indulging in active fantasies."
Yep, that ought to do it, send him to the jihadist camp in the US.
/please don't throw me in the briar patch!
at November 30, 2005 11:11 AM
OT: G.W. Bush and Islam
Bush seems to "get it" but then he seems to not "get it".
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/nationalsecurity/
snip:
The Terrorists Serve A Clear And Focused Ideology. The ideology known as Islamic radicalism, militant Jihadism, or Islamo-fascism - different from the religion of Islam - exploits Islam to serve a violent political vision that calls for the murder of all those who do not share it.
What Bush seems to be saying here is that there are good Nazis and bad Nazis. The bad Nazis are the ones who are actively fighting, militarily, for the goal of Islam - "the portable theocratic state". However, if you just sit at home and support the "bad" Nazis with your Zakat, propaganda and moral support for EXACTLY THE SAME GOALS as the "bad" Nazis, you are a "good" Nazi because even though you support the "bad" Nazis at least you aren't killing people yourself, personally.
Bush can't bring himself to admit that "Islamic Radicalism" is just plain old Islam. It isn't "different from the religion of Islam". It IS the religion of Islam!
BTW here is a link to the 38 page, "National Strategy for Victory in Iraq", released by the Whitehouse today:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/iraq_national_strategy_20051130.pdf
Posted by: Mentat at November 30, 2005 11:26 AM
Do we know what his original felony conviction was for?
Posted by: Anomolous at November 30, 2005 11:38 AM
This dude says he had the manuals for his work teaching kids how to safe. I want to know is what organization did such a bad hiring job.
Also, former senior officials of Saddam have been found hiding in Europe and in some instances waging terror.
Posted by: Itachi at November 30, 2005 11:50 AM
57 months is way too short, IMO. Lock him up.
at November 30, 2005 11:55 AM
...Mu'min told the judge he was just curious about different reading materials and used some of the tactical guides in his work teaching children how to keep themselves safe.
Most American’s teach their children about fire safety, looking both ways before crossing the street, never talking to strangers, etc. Not exposing our children to literature and teachings such as:
...a CIA manual on explosives, an Army sniper manual and instruction booklets on urban combat and the use of poisons to kill...
must be regarded as child abuse!!!
...Mu'min's wife Jacquelynn said the guns were hers.
So unless the weapons are purchased in your name, you are innocent right? Maybe Iran will use Russian warheads for their nukes under a similar MO.
...I am not a terrorist. I just happen to be a Muslim
(and I happen to fantasize about the death of Americans and Jews while my wife has the tools to make my fantasies reality.)
...57 months in prison will be enough to find out who the real Mr. Mu'min is…
No, like Carolyn2 said, that will just give him “focus time” to make his fantasies real. He is a prime candidate to carry out Jihad. We just needed to connect him up with the right people. Thanks!! Why not just conduct 57 months of phone taps and other surveillance to “find” the real Mr. Mu’min?
at November 30, 2005 12:16 PM
"Mu’min was born James Baldwin Harris on April 4, 1973, and grew up in Illinois."
"When Harris was 7, a baby-sitter repeatedly sodomized him, the documents say. A victim of bullying, he dropped out of high school in his senior year and moved to Washington state."
"When he was 18, he was convicted of attempted robbery in Snohomish County and sentenced to more than two years in prison. When he was 20, he was sent to prison for another two years for selling cocaine in King County."
Source: http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/5363615p-4853098c.html
This is one scary guy! I believe he will kill someday if he is not stopped. All the warning sign are there.
Posted by: William The Crusader at November 30, 2005 12:21 PM
WILLIAM-
He sounds a lot like Joel Heinrichs III (OU bomber)to me. He just needs to get his hands on some "real" weapons. Hopefully in prison he'll have some time to "network".
Posted by: XRDC at November 30, 2005 12:51 PM
Captured Al Quaeda Manuals state it is okay to raise money for Jihad by stealing credit cards,robberies etc - these criminal activies explained as 'Booty belonging to Muslims.'WHATEVER INFIDELS POSSESS IS OURS [MUSLIMS] FOR OUR RELIGION IS SUPERIOR TO ANY OTHER : ALLAH HIMSELF PERMITS THIS re:KORAN.
Since Mohammed was himself a CRIMINAL - indeed one
who committed every crime ranging from rape,torture, theft,murder - and is supposed to be the PERFECT MAN IN ISLAM - you get a psychotic
killer who has invented a 'Religion' for every criminal,sadist and pervert that ever was.
I don't believe this convert was just having Walter Mitty dreams : he was planning to do Jihad
for real.
at November 30, 2005 1:19 PM
"Bush can't bring himself to admit that "Islamic Radicalism" is just plain old Islam. It isn't "different from the religion of Islam". It IS the religion of Islam!"
-- posted by mentat
Do you really think he's ignorant enough (and, therefore, stupid enough) to not know any better? Serious question, cuz it would only seem to take a half-hour or so to figure out that Islam itself is fundamentally radical.
SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT SWT
"When Harris was 7, a baby-sitter repeatedly sodomized him, the documents say."
-- posted by William the Crusader
I smell a pattern, cuz the Hadiths indicate that poor 8-year old Mohammad was frequently seen sitting on the bed of his uncle Abu Talib, the middle-aged man smiling at young Mohammed and stroking his back.
All this was after the Holy Prophet had been abandoned as a suckling by his mother to the poor Bedouin and aspiring nursemaid Halima, and then Halima tried to dump Him on Abdul-Muttalib, who refused, and finally dumped Allah's Apostle on ol' Uncle Abu.
Some conjecture that Uncle Abu repeatedly buggered young Mohammed, thereby causing the Holy Prophet's misogyny, pedophilia, and homophobia.
at November 30, 2005 1:56 PM
Duke Eudes -
I am convinced that both W and Condi are amazingly naive. It appears to me that they observe the social scene in DC, and believe that it is reality. After all, every muslim they meet in DC, and on their travels, is well-educated and gracious ...
Was it not Condi who came up with the idea of paying terrorists to retire - paying the Danegeld? It is frightening, and therefore difficult to accept, but it does appear that our president and his closest advisors are major feather merchants.
Sobering, isn't it?
Posted by: Havoc at November 30, 2005 3:09 PM
I don't know how many dumb-asses I've met with degrees from Harvard, Yale, Stanford, and the like.
It's time to replace the "be true to your school" meritocracy in D.C. with a knowledge-based one.
Posted by: Duke Eudes at November 30, 2005 3:22 PM
The story link above goes to The Seattle Post Intelligencer..
..the Shi'attle Times, however, didn't report it.
at November 30, 2005 3:40 PM
"Mu'min's wife Jacquelynn said the guns were hers."
Uh, yeah. Ask her which one is the Glock .45 and which one is the Browning .38; or ask her which end the bullet goes in.
This guy is a convicted armed robber and cocaine pusher, which kind of puts a damper on the Walter Mitty analogy.
I'm thinking we may be reading more about the exploits of Mr. Mu'min in the not too distant future.
at November 30, 2005 4:53 PM
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