I sincerely hope that Pres Bush did not cancel the development of deep-penetrating nuclear warheads - as reported recently.

On the other hand, he has spent his capacity to disappoint. My cup runneth over.

Posted by: Havoc at December 11, 2005 6:39 PM

Theran Times.. like move over New York Times.. both speak out of the same mouth it seems lately!! both dislike the West, US, Bush, etc. both want the US not to be mean to captured terrorist, oh how l can go on and on...

Posted by: Lulu at December 11, 2005 7:58 PM

Havoc writes:
"I sincerely hope that Pres Bush did not cancel the development of deep-penetrating nuclear warheads - as reported recently."

Me too. The alternative is to just lay waste to
the entire country. I am amazed that Americans
would work against us developing such weapons,
which would cause much less collateral damage than the alternatives.

Posted by: American at December 11, 2005 8:19 PM

One can hope that before cancelling the program they would turn it over to those that MIGHT have the balls to use them. The Israelis.

Of course, the way Sharon has been going lately I am beginning to doubt even his will to take an unpopular necessary decision.

Let's all pray that all the land give-a-ways has been to collect political points that can be spent in nuking Iran back to a more peaceful time.

Posted by: KuhnKat at December 11, 2005 8:29 PM

o/t...Lockin this link before it becomes archival accessed by sign up..

"To many, we are the bad girls of Islam. But we are not anti-sharia (Islamic law) or anti-Islam. We use the fundamentals of Islamic thinking — the Koran, the Sunnah, or traditions and sayings of the prophet Muhammad, and ijtihad, or independent reasoning — to challenge the ways in which Islam has been distorted by..."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2002674911_sunislamwomen11.html

Posted by: otterfisher at December 11, 2005 10:51 PM

The same article just appeared at the Mehr News Service:

http://www.mehrnews.com/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=264299

It's by Mark Weber of the IHR!

Posted by: Yitzchak at December 12, 2005 2:00 AM

Where were the shouts of hypocrisy from the Tehran times when the UN held a ceremony in recognition of the Palestinians which openly portrayed a middle east map 'sans' Israel.

The duplicity of this organisation knows no bounds and is a good indicator that the moral relativism that infects the UN is becoming a clear and present danger to the countries that founded this institution.

We need to withdraw from the UN!!

Posted by: km at December 12, 2005 2:29 AM

This is the same UN that declared that Zionism is racism some decades ago? As others have pointed Holocaust remembrance days are useful for the left and their tools in that they can hide their hatred for Israel and the Jews behind pious platitudes. On such a day, the left (excluding nariz) will not fail to point out that people like Le Pen or Nick Griffin or Pat Buchanan don't have the time of day for such ritual genufluctions and so we'll then have to set out on a quixotic quest to punish them. But in the meantime those who have Israeli blood on their hands will be given a pass since they've observed the Holocaust day. I'm betting that after the utility of this day is spent the UN will conflate it with AlNakba day and use it to bait the Jews.

Posted by: ivan at December 12, 2005 2:31 AM

I wonder if any of the Jews cited in the Teheran Times article will have second thoughts?

The best case for Holocaust remembrance is Ahmadinejad. Now their work is being used to justify their extinction through murder.

Yale can't buy common sense:

Paula E. Hyman, a professor of modern Jewish history at Yale Uni­versity, has accurately observed: “With regard to Israel, the Holocaust may be used to forestall political criticism and suppress debate; it reinforces the sense of Jews as an eternally beleaguered people who can rely for their defense only upon themselves.

Well, Paula, given the European and American inaction and soft rhetoric in the face of clearly genocidal statements by Ahmadinejad, would you care to revise your statements?

I'd love to be proud of my president, nation, and the State Department, but that's not possible right now. Yale shouldn't be too proud of itself either.

Paula continues:

The invocation of the suffering endured by the Jews under the Nazis often takes the place of rational argument, and is expected to convince doubters of the legitimacy of current Israeli government policy.”

Paula, does it bother you this type of rhetoric is now being used to justify a second holocaust?

Posted by: Beagle at December 12, 2005 6:03 AM

"The Holocaust remembrance campaign ... serves Israeli interests and bolsters Jewish-Zionist power."

Does it? Well, in that case: commemorate away!

Posted by: Kim Hartveld at December 12, 2005 6:38 AM

Paula Hyman is a kapo working for another Holocaust. In fact, Holocaust denial and her argument serve the purposes of a future Holocaust.

Posted by: Eliyahu at December 12, 2005 7:41 AM

And here's another snippet from otterfishers link:-

"To conservative Muslims, the phrase is an insult to Islam. But to many moderate Muslims — and I count myself among them — an Islamic feminist movement fits with the religion's early teachings and offers one of our best hopes for countering extremism. Indeed, those of us who have joined the movement since it emerged in the 1990s have come to understand that Islam needs to go backwards to its progressive 7th-century roots if it is to move forward into the 21st century."

So to these Muslims, being 'progressive' means going back 1,400 years to the Dark Ages. And Islamic extremism has its roots back in the 7th century. Mohammed was the original jihadist, and it is abundantly clear that Islam has never changed since then, and never will change. It will still be the same brutal, backward, barbaric and misogynistic death cult in the 30th century that it is today, and was back in the 8th century.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at December 12, 2005 9:21 AM

"Islam needs to go backwards to its progressive 7th-century roots if it is to move forward into the 21st century..."
-- from a posting, quoting a "progressive" Muslim above

Gives new meaning to the phrase "reculer pour mieux sauter."

Posted by: Hugh at December 12, 2005 9:31 AM

Here's another UN-related tidbit, from Israel National News:

UN Ceremony Includes Map of ´Palestine´ in Place of Israel
10:24 Dec 09, '05 / 8 Kislev 5766
By Ezra HaLevi

The United Nations held a "Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People" last week. A large map of “Palestine,” with Israel literally wiped off the map, featured prominently in the festivities.

The ceremony was held at the UN headquarters in New York and was attended by Secretary General Kofi Annan and the Presidents of the UN Security Council and the General Assembly.


Map of "Palestine" from the Jordan River to the sea, with no mention of the Jewish State.

During the festivities, a map labeled a "map of Palestine” was displayed prominently between UN and PLO flags. The map, with “Palestine” written in Arabic atop it, does not include Israel, a member of the UN for 56 years. The map does not even demarcate the partition lines of November 29, 1947, marking a Jewish state alongside an Arab state. The partition was dictated by the UN General Assembly itself.


Map surrounded by the flags of the UN and PLO.

With the map hanging behind him, Secretary-General Annan addressed the public meeting at UN Headquarters.


Kofi Annan sits at the dais with the map negating the Jewish State's existence in the background (lower left side of photo).

Click here to view a video clip of the ceremony with the map in the background.

At the start of the ceremony, the dignitaries present asked attendees to observe a moment of silence. “I invite everyone present to rise and observe a minute of silence in memory of all those who have given their lives for the cause of the Palestinian people,” the master of ceremonies said, “and the return of peace between Israel and Palestine.“


A moment of silence is held for those who "gave their lives for the Palestinian cause."

Anne Bayefsky, who reported on the event for the Eye on the UN organization, said that the ceremony's wording was aimed at giving honor to the worst of Palestinian terrorists. "It was a moment ... crafted to include the commemoration of suicide-bombers,” she wrote.

Click here to view a video of the moment of silence.

In response to the event, Bayefsky and her organization have once again asked the U.S. to withhold funding from the UN.

(Photos and Videos: EyeOnTheUN.org)

Published: 14:47 December 08, 2005
Last Update: 10:24 December 09, 2005

Posted by: bondmanp at December 12, 2005 12:49 PM