Quoting again from

http://answering-islam.org.uk/Authors/JR/Future/ch04_the_mahdi.htm

"The Conquering Of Israel
Islamic tradition pictures the Mahdi as joining with the army of Muslim warriors carrying black flags. The Mahdi will then lead this army to Israel and re-conquer it for Islam. The Jews will be slaughtered until very few remain and Jerusalem will become the location of the Mahdi’s rule over the Earth.

Rasulullah [Muhammad] said: "Armies carrying black flags will come from Khurasan. No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Eela (Baitul Maqdas in Jerusalem) where they will erect their flags." 21

It is important to note here the reference above to “Baitul Maqdas”. In Arabic this means “the holy house”. This is referring to the Dome of the Rock Mosque and is located on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

In a particularly venomous manner, Egyptian authors, Muhammad ibn Izzat and Muhammd ‘Arif comment on the above tradition:

The Mahdi will be victorious and eradicate those pigs and dogs and the idols of this time so that there will once more be a caliphate based on prophethood as the hadith states… Jerusalem will be the location of the rightly guided caliphate and the center of Islamic rule, which will be headed by Imam al-Mahdi… That will abolish the leadership of the Jews… and put an end to the domination of the Satans who spit evil into people and cause corruption in the earth, making them slaves of false idols and ruling the world by laws other than the Shari’a [Islamic Law] of the Lord of the worlds. (Emphasis mine) 22

There is a very famous tradition that is often quoted throughout the Islamic world that speaks of the Mahdi’s military campaign against Israel. The tradition is both sickening and very sobering:

The Prophet said… The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him… (Emphasis mine) 23 "

Since this quote is a few years old it appears that Iran is either getting their cues from this website, or more probably -- the website clearly articulates exactly what has been on the mind Iran all along.

Why bother with peace talks; take the buggers out -- NOW!

Posted by: witness at December 27, 2005 8:31 PM

I want to hear again why not only removing the greatest local threat to the Islamic Republic of Iran, the despot Saddam Hussein, but also ensuring, by means of an enthusiasticlly-nurtured vote-counting "democracy," that the Shi'a will dominate Iraq, how this helps restrict Iran's power?

And explain to me yet again -- I am a slow student -- why leaving Iraq, to watch as Sunnis and Shi'a go at it, stopping only now and again to supply the Kurds with military equipment (and to do nothing to discourage the peshmerga from seizing as much Arab-held but Kurdish land that they wish, in Iraq, and in Syria, and for that matter, the territories within Iran where the Kurds live), why that is a bad thing?

Explain fully why the Iran-Iraq War was a bad thing? For during that first year of Khomeini's rule, before Iraq attacked, the regime was full of enthusiasm, and so was Judge Khalkhali, sentencing leaders of the Jews, of the Baha'i, of the Zoroastrians, to be executed, seizing others just for the hell of it, and then moving on to clean up all those naive leftists who had thought they would use Khomeini whereas it was always he who was using them (a little like the way Chalabi, in exploiting the Americans, thought he or people like him would inherit Iraq, but Chalabi had been away since he was a boy, and had forgotten just what Muslim Iraq and Iraqis really wanted, and what they wanted was Islam, differing only in whether they preferred their Islam straight or on the rocks of flagellating hidden imam-attenders).

But then came Iraq's attack, and for eight wonderful years, Iran was almost completely preoccupied with fending off Saddam Hussein. What could have been better?

And why, now, of all times, is a repeat, starting within Iraq, where the Sunnis will be able to count on their years of greater expreience, and their greater ferocity (at least as displayed so far), and on the arms and money and men that will flow in from Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria (and how will the Alawites of Syria decide to act -- for whatever they do, they will antagonize either the powerful "real" -- as opposed to Alawite -- Sunni Muslims who make up 3/4 of the population -- or they will antagonize Iran, and the Hezbollah in Lebanon who so far have been their supporters.

I still need to know exactly why this is a terrible outcome from the point of view of Infidels? And please, don't simply repeat "well, because it just is," or "it would be unconscionable to leave Iraq in a state of civil war" or "we need stability in the MIddle East" (why?) or "we just can't and if you can't figure out that one you are unspeakably callous." (Okay, I'm unspeakably callous).

Explain. I need to know. Someone explain to me, pleasse me exactly why trying to stick around and create Iraq the Light Unto the Muslim Nations will do far more for Infidel interests, even if we have to spend another $100 or $200 billion, and keep ignoring Iran's nuclear weapons project, and have to keep trying to create an "Iraqi" army and an "Iraqi" police force out of Kurds, Sunni Arabs, and Shi'a Arabs, which would be akin to creating, in 1945, an army that would contain Wehrmacht and Red Army veterans, members of the French Resistance, and possibly a unit of Marines. All fighting side-by-side, and trusting one another in the way that members of the same units must necessarily trust one another.

Explain.

Posted by: Hugh at December 27, 2005 9:11 PM

From Iran Focus Iran Hails First Islamist State in Iraq

Tehran, Iran, Dec. 23 – The editorial of Iran’s leading hard-line daily hailed the outcome of Iraq’s parliamentary elections as “the creation of the first Islamist state in the Arab world”, and warned against “American plots” to prevent the formation of the new Iraqi government by Iranian-backed Shiite groups.

“Of the 275 seats in Iraq’s new parliament, 140 will belong to pious Islamists, 60 will be occupied by Kurds with excellent ties with Iran, and 40 will belong to Sunni Arabs, most of whom want a sovereign, Islamist state”, the daily Kayhan’s Saturday editorial noted. “The new government – including the President, the Prime Minister, the cabinet, the armed forces and the judiciary – will emerge from this new assembly”.

Kayhan said the election outcome will “increase pressures, both inside and outside the U.S., on [President George W.] Bush to withdraw American troops from Iraq”. “Bush will have to give in and withdraw the bulk of his forces from Iraq in the next few months”, the daily, which reflects the views of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, wrote.

The paper listed the consequences of American withdrawal from Iraq, describing the current situation in Iraq as “the biggest crisis America has faced in recent decades”.

“The American defeat and withdrawal from Iraq will forever bury the Neoconservative current in the U.S.,…while the formation of an Islamist state in Iraq, which will be a natural ally of the Islamic Republic of Iran and will form a contiguous link between Iran and Palestine through Syria and Lebanon, will bring about a sea change in the geo-strategic balance in the region in favour of Iran and to America’s detriment. This new alliance with its huge size will directly influence all developments in the Arab and Muslim Middle East”.

Kayhan’s editorial said American officials’ recent statements on election irregularities in Iraq were aimed at forcing the pro-Iranian Shiite groups to give concessions. “They [the Iranian-backed Shiites] will not accept this”, the paper wrote.

“The Americans have no choice but to leave Iraq and this must happen in the next few months”, Kayhan wrote. “Today’s Iraq shows the two sides of the Middle Eastern coin: the victory of Islamism, and the defeat and flight of the West”.

Gratis, the RNC and all of the Bush Bots.

Posted by: Nariz at December 27, 2005 9:36 PM

"Explain."
-- posted by Hugh

Moslems act in a world structured by Koran and Sunnah; Infidels act in a world structured by romanticism. Opposite forces.

Infidels have bought into the fuzzy notion that the free world will saved at the very last second, with a Moslem freedom nation suddenly blossoming in the sands of Arabia. In other words, a Hollywood Ending, an improbable Magical Moslem Moment whereupon a billion medieval barbarians are suddenly lifted up out of their animalism in a sweeping golden wave of civilization.

This at once makes no sense and it makes the only possible sense. It is of course nonsense, but it in a very real sense can at least be marketed, regardless its breathtaking lack of common sense.

The only other marketing package Islam leaves us to sell is the horrible truth. This path requires Infidel leaders to embrace cold reality, to embrace the dark vision of at least the next century thrown under a black wave of endless conflict, ubiquitous fear and loathing, gathering clouds of ignorance, the largest of genocides and, barring a miracle, permanent oppression of all mankind.

In other words, to accept what the Moslems themselves are dictating, if that makes any sense.

HARVARD TREASON GEORGETOWN TREASON SOCAL TREASON COLUMBIA TREASON

It is so much easier to fantasize and to put off extremely bad news, the epochally awful news.

The gathering storm will be made up of once-every-10,000-years stuff.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at December 27, 2005 10:08 PM

l read that the Kurds are taking more control and working more with the U.S. forces than any other of the Iraqi's factions. This to me is encouraging, as being nonarabs, they will look more for themselves than uniting with other arab muslims. I do no think that democracy will be excactly like the WEst, but a begining. The US forces is projected to go down as more Iraqi forces, aka Kurds take over. so you can listen to all the Iranian proproganda you want above, but this Bushbot is nothing like a Clintonian do nothing rock and roll type piece of shit!

Posted by: Lulu at December 28, 2005 6:55 AM