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Quisling Search Alert. I hope they are squirming at the New Duranty Times, which has begun to cross the line from ignoring the global jihad (a la Walter "What Ukrainian Famine?" Duranty) to abetting it. From AP, with thanks to Richard:
WASHINGTON - The Justice Department has opened another investigation into leaks of classified information, this time to determine who divulged the existence of President Bush's secret domestic spying program.The inquiry focuses on disclosures to The New York Times about warrantless surveillance conducted by the National Security Agency since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, officials said.
The newspaper recently revealed the existence of the program in a front-page story that also acknowledged that the news had been withheld from publication for a year, partly at the request of the administration and partly because the newspaper wanted more time to confirm various aspects of the program.
White House spokesman Trent Duffy said Justice undertook the action on its own, and Bush was informed of it Friday.
"The leaking of classified information is a serious issue. The fact is that al-Qaida's playbook is not printed on Page One and when America's is, it has serious ramifications," Duffy told reporters in Crawford, Texas, where Bush was spending the holidays.
Catherine Mathis, a spokeswoman for the Times, declined to comment.
Posted by Robert at December 31, 2005 4:17 AM
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Could the person who leaked be the same person who refused to tape his fellow Muslims when told to do so by his superior at the FBI? It probably isn't, but the fact that that agent was then promoted to the FBI office in Saudi Arabia shows how little the FBI management values loyalty and dedication to the cause of protecting and preserving freedom in the US. Maybe the head of the FBI, in between dinners and receptions hosted by CAIR, had a cozy, heart-to-heart chat with a NY Times reporter.
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at December 31, 2005 6:32 AM
My comment above assumes that the NSA shares information about investigations with other agencies. I could be wrong about that too. In any case, this is a very frightening story and all Americans are now more vulnerable to destruction and death because of it.
Posted by: maryrose at December 31, 2005 6:38 AM
When the USA was at war in the past, i.e. WWII, treason and sedition were treated as serious crimes and had fitting punishments specifically imprisonment or execution.
We are at war now.
1. Why aren't these crimes, that have been committed, boasted about, printed about, and talked about prosecuted and punished?
2. When, since the sixties, did our laws that prosecute these crimes cease to be applied?
These are not rhetorical questions......
at December 31, 2005 8:09 AM
1. Why aren't these crimes, that have been committed, boasted about, printed about, and talked about prosecuted and punished?
2. When, since the sixties, did our laws that prosecute these crimes cease to be applied?
These are not rhetorical questions.....
It's my understanding that the Constitution requires that treason be proved by the testimony of two witnesses which can make the charge hard to prove.Since treason is a death penalty offense under the Constitution, that leverage allows the threat of a treason charge to be used to get defendants to admit guilt. "American Taliban" John Walker Lindh was threatened with a treason charge and agreed to a lesser charge which carried a sentence of 20 years in prison.Lindh's conviction is part of the Bush administration strategy to aggressively pursue cases against Americans who aide the enemy.
Sedition is still a crime that is being prosecuted. The Blind Sheik was convicted of "seditious conspiracy" and sentenced to life in prison.An American citizen, Ali Al-Timimi was convicted of "soliciting treason" among other charges in connection with a speech he gave 5 days after 9/11 urging Muslims to fight for the Taliban and kill American soldiers.He was sentenced to life in prison.
BTW-I am very happy to see the Justice Dept investigating those who break the law and commit crimes against the American people by leaking classified information to the press that aides the enemy.The Justice Dept is also investigating the leak of classified information about the CIA's secret prisons.Those who leaked the information endanger all of lives and should be punished. Hopefully these investigations will have the effect of drying up the NYT and WPost sources.
Posted by: Roxane at December 31, 2005 8:46 AM
l wonder why the Democrats are not demanding a Senate hearing about the leaks eh? mmmm could it be someone on that side leaked the information to the NYtimes...l just hate this political BS, arent they supposed to be on side of the goodguys, like the American people? l think they should bring out treason charges on some of thess low lifes!
Posted by: Lulu at December 31, 2005 9:09 AM
Loose lips sink ships....an old addage that say's it all in a nut shell.
Someone should pay for this but who will it be???
And how can the Patriot Act work if we cant even secure Top Secret materials and conversations???
Posted by: chuck at December 31, 2005 10:36 AM
Roxanne,
Thanks for your answer.
Happy New Year to all JW/DWers!
at December 31, 2005 11:36 AM
Let's call this one for it is: treason.
Posted by: epg at December 31, 2005 2:41 PM
Does it matter to Jihad Watchers and FREEPERS that President Bush's domestic spying program is a violation of his oath of office to uphold the Constitution..? I think not.
Any president who wilfully violates the laws of the land and the constitution is himself guilty of treason.
President Bush did that. He has no authority to spy on American Citizens, he is prohibited from spying on American Citizens, without probable cause and judicial permit.
He had neither.. It would be one thing, I could shrug and ignore this, if it were defintely proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that those spied on were in fact Islamists,, but there is a slipperly slope here.
Your President, broke the law, violated his oath of office and trashed our constitution...no amount of quibbling on the part of FREEPERS can mitigate or diminish that fact.
Bush actually hurt us and the cause.
Posted by: Nariz at December 31, 2005 7:46 PM
Nariz you are wrong Bush did not break any laws. those laws were inacted a while ago,and used by presidents Carter on down, and yes Clinton used it!
It would be a violation if Pres.Bush did not use it to protect the citizans! This is one Cdn who is glad that Bush is trying to stop terrorist from hitting the US! Have you wondered why there has been no repeats?? The NYTimes should be held accountable and charged with High Treason!!!
at December 31, 2005 8:36 PM
Results of a new Rasmussem poll on the NSA surveillance program.
Sixty-four percent (64%) of Americans believe the National Security Agency (NSA) should be allowed to intercept telephone conversations between terrorism suspects in other countries and people living in the United States. A Rasmussen Reports survey found that just 23% disagree.
Sixty-eight percent (68%) of Americans say they are following the NSA story somewhat or very closely.
Just 26% believe President Bush is the first to authorize a program like the one currently in the news. Forty-eight percent (48%) say he is not while 26% are not sure.
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Fortunately most Americans understand the stakes and why the surveillance of Al Qaeda terrorists is vital. If the President was listening in on the phone calls of Cindy Sheehan to Howard Dean or Michael Moore to Harry Reid that would be one thing.The NSA intercepts are of known AQ terrorists in contact with people in the US who may or may not be American citizens. We are at war and the President has a duty to protect the American people from attack.If liberals really want to attack the President for saving lives and protecting the American people go right ahead. You'll ensure victory for the Republicans in 2006 and the Republican party's goal of becoming the permanent majority party in the US.
Posted by: Roxane at December 31, 2005 8:48 PM
Sedition and Treason were enforced many times during WWII.
It is very disheartening when individuals are more concerned with "bringing down" Bush and the Republicans. How quickly they all forgot the "unity" after 9/11.
Politics rears its ugly head again.
Posted by: learjet0450 at January 1, 2006 8:12 AM
Nariz wrote:
"President Bush did that. He has no authority to spy on American Citizens, he is prohibited from spying on American Citizens, without probable cause and judicial permit."
Nariz is just repeating the leftist disinformation campaign underway against Bush and the US. The original New York Times article (read it again, closely, if you ever did, in fact, read it the first time) and its reporters, James Risen and Eric Lichtblau, carefully avoided making the charge Nariz made:
"Under a presidential order signed in 2002, the intelligence agency has monitored the international telephone calls and international e-mail messages of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people inside the United States without warrants over the past three years in an effort to track possible "dirty numbers" linked to Al Qaeda, the officials said. The agency, they said, still seeks warrants to monitor entirely domestic communications."
I don't see the vaunted "American Citizens" term or even "U.S. Persons" mentioned by the NYT.
If Nariz is privy to information the Times reporters don't have then he should share it with the rest of us.
Posted by: Theseus at January 1, 2006 9:44 AM
When Bush was asked recently what he had to say to those who are concerned about their civil liberties, he responded
"If al Qaeda is calling you, we want to know why."
Sounds reasonable to me.
Posted by: Roxane at January 1, 2006 4:25 PM
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