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1938 update from Iran Focus, with thanks to JE:
Tehran, Iran, Jan. 11 – Iran’s hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Wednesday that the Islamic Republic would obtain nuclear capabilities in the “near future”.“In the near future, full nuclear energy for peaceful purposes will be at our disposal”, Ahmadinejad told a gathering in the southern port city of Bandar Abbas.
Take that "peacful" in the sense that Sayyid Qutb argued that Islam was a religion of peace: it will fight to establish Sharia everywhere, and then Allah's peace will reign over the world.
Posted by Robert at January 12, 2006 6:15 AM
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You might remember my posting from a few days ago regarding the vigil in front of the Iranian Embassy:
"The vigil in front of the Iranian Embassy
http://www.anglicansforisrael.com/docs/2005/12/21/iranian-embassy-vigil/#more-190
last night was truely a heartening display of Jewish-Christian Alliance! Anglicans, Messianic Jews, Zionists, a mutant Catholic (myself) - the gentleman standing next to me sounded very surprised "Are you Polish Jewish?"- he asked perplexed by my mysterious accent. "No, Polish Polish" - I replied much to his increasing bewilderment. Anyway I have proved my point holding a poster with "Israel Reaches For Peace. Iran Theratens War" written on it. The TV crew failed to turn up again (hmmm..wonder why). Nevertheless we got lots of publicity from the passing bikes, cars and buses. They cheered us with hooting and friendly hand-waving. Special thanks to the several black bus drivers, who gave us roaring applause (I just hope that there were no Muslim passengers aboard that would report on them or am I becoming paranoid?). There were prayers for Ariel Sharon, Israeli songs and a shofar blown by one of the participants. We chanted "Peace for Israel!" and "No Holocaust denial!" I wonder if they gave the "diplomats" across the road at the embassy some food for thought at their teatime."
I have something from more official sources now -please note that Red Ken was too busy for us to have the privilege of his presence ...probably organizing another Muslimic Awareness Week:
http://www.anglicansforisrael.com/docs/2006/01/10/afi-joins-protest-at-iranian-embassy/
http://www.ejpress.org/article/5096
at January 12, 2006 6:50 AM
I meant "Muslim" Awareness Week, but would much rather have "Islam Bewarness Week"! I would even join with a headless Fulla doll and a armless teddy bear!
Posted by: Polish infideless
at January 12, 2006 7:23 AM
Guy persecution in Iran - sounds like Sacranie's dream come true:
http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2458/
Posted by: Polish infideless
at January 12, 2006 8:46 AM
I have the odd notion that Iran's prez says so much about their nukes because he's trying to get someone to attack Iran.
Posted by: fireangel
at January 12, 2006 10:02 AM
“In the near future, full nuclear energy for peaceful purposes will be at our disposal.
And just where does he plan on disposing...?
We know what 'peaceful purpose' really means. The Iranian Mullahs starting with the the head terrorist, 'El Presidente', have to be taken down a dozen notches or so.
Fireangel above, may be right, maybe the maniac wants Iran to be attacked. That may be the signal for Mahdi to appear and lead a vast army from Afghanistan to conquer the world for Islamic peace. Just how Mahdi will accomplish this is unknown. There are lots of obstacles in the way like the US and coalition militarys.
at January 12, 2006 10:58 AM
Iran says it needs nuclear power because its running out of gas (even though they are sitting on top of 1/4 - 1/3 of the middle easts oil reserves)
Iran says its willing to open up everything to inspection then denies the inspectors entry ...
Iran says its for peaceful purposes then the Iranian thug In chief calls for Israel to be wiped off the map..
Iran then breaks all the seals basically flipping the UN the Bird and starts enriching more uranium..
Iran warns the west there will be serious consecuences if we attempt to intervene....
With all of this evidence the Europeans are just now trying to go to the UN...
I hate to say this but i think there a little too late...
And this NUT job believes he will hasten the 12th Iman if he starts world war IIII...
this is why i dont want ANY muslim nation to have nuclear weapons..
Posted by: jingoist
at January 12, 2006 11:51 AM
Has said Solana something?
Posted by: Franze
at January 12, 2006 1:31 PM
Just one question: Mr President - what the f@#$ are you waiting for. Send in the fighter-bombers.
Posted by: templar
at January 12, 2006 2:18 PM
There is no question that Iran WILL obtain nuclear weapons within the next year or 2. Will U.N. sanctions work against the mad clerics of Iran? Not at all. You cannot use the logical actions of logical people against illogical people who follow an insane and illogical idea. The one and only way to stop the mad clerics of Iran from trying to bring on the 12th Imam is to appeal directly to the Iranian people to stop this madness. To this end the U.S. needs to enter into a treaty with Israel (if we haven’t already) where by if Israel is attacked by any nation or terrorist group with nuclear weapons the U.S. will massively retaliate inkind. Just like we gave Europe a nuclear umbrella in the cold war we should afford Israel the same protection. Before the Iranians can weaponize their bomb onto a missile, the president of the U.S. must go on all TV stations beamed into Iran and explain the repercussions of their government’s actions over and over and over again. The Iranians will be able to manufacture possibly 3 to 4 bombs in the 5 to 10 kiloton range (the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima was about 15 kilotons). The over whelming response will come from at least 3 Trident subs in the Indian Ocean and 1 in the Mediterranean, each sub has 18 missiles, each missile has 10 independently targetable 450 kiloton thermonuclear warheads, let the Iranian people do the math. It MUST be made crystal clear to the Iranian people over and over and over again that terms of the treaty are upon a nuclear strike on Israel by Iran the U.S. will unquestionably and automatically launch (no different from what the Russians knew would happen if they struck Europe). It is up to the Iranian people to decide if they want to live or be vaporized with their government. Let us all pray (or if you are an athist, hope) the Iranian people chose to live. There is no other way to end this madness.
Posted by: WLF
at January 12, 2006 2:51 PM
There are some who think that by allowing Iran to have nukes that this will stabilize the middle east..
WHAT are they THINKING!!!
They do NOT understand that the entire doctrin (if you can call it that) if Islam is..
If you DIE killing an infidel
you go to allahs whorehouse
If you DIE as a result of a counter attack
you go to allahs whorehouse
If you DIE in a suicide attack
you go to allahs whorehouse
If you DIE Helping Jihadists
you go to allahs whorehouse
If an Entire nation DIES trying to committ nuclear genocide of all the jews in the world..
you go to allahs whorehouse
They really really believe this crap...
So either we hit them before they start making nukes...
Of we WILL have to destroy them after as they will immidiatly deploy it...
This is why NO Muslim nation should be allowed to have such technology...
Posted by: jingoist
at January 12, 2006 3:55 PM
Just in
U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said Iran's top nuclear negotiator told him Thursday that Tehran was interested in "serious and constructive negotiations" with Britain, France and Germany over its atomic program.
During a 40-minute telephone conversation, he said, Ali Larijani said Iran wanted to resume negotiations with the Europeans, but this time favored a deadline.
Go to http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/12/D8F3BVG01.html
for more details..
So they want a deadline date..
Lets see...
They start producing Nukes on feb 1
Will be able to deploy them say Feb 15
So they will start talks on Feb 18
with the end date of Feb 18
thats when a musroom cloud will be over france , germany and europe..
at January 12, 2006 3:58 PM
jingoist-
Allah's Whorehouse sounds like a good name for a pub!
I'd be happy to raise a glass or two there anytime.
Maybe of this new drink I just concocted:
THE 72 VIRGINS
(And, unlike the 'Virgin Mary', this one is proof potent.)
72 ml (about 2.75 oz.) dark rum [or golden tequila]
72 ml. cranberry juice
72 ml. Campari
72 m. coconut milk [unsweetened]
2 bananas [as ripe as you like it]
72 small ice cubes.
1 Maraschino cherry [with stem] per glass.
Dump ice, cranberry juice and coconut milk in a blender and vigorously agitate the ice and liquids. Pause for 72 seconds (to let mixture breathe) then add in Campari and rum [tequila]. Mix again until ice is mostly crushed, then finally add bananas, in chunks, and mix it into a cheerful froth.
Pour drink into large martini glass, and garnish with cherry.
Serves 3 or 4, depending on size of thirst.
Raise glasses,
face Mecca,
and enjoy!
Posted by: profitsbeard
at January 12, 2006 5:17 PM
I'm arguying on the subject of Iran on a message board, mainly populated by british. the thread as now an incredible 56 page, and there, I'm seen as the evil baby-eating imperialistic zionist neocon. Quite the contrary than my reputation here.
Anyway, from what I can understand from the discussion I'm having there, the opposition of the West against a nuclear Iran is seen like this:
-The Americans are using the nuclear story as an excuse to prevent Iran to change its petrodollar to petroeuros
-The West is merely trying to find excuses to enforce a regim change of the peaceful inhabitant of Iran.
-We have no legitimate right to protect our interests, defined as the statu quo
-We have no legitimate right to police the world
-We have no legitimate right to uphold international law, as in iranian nuclear research are in direct breach of article I and II and V of the anti-proliferation treaty
-If any country is to act against a nuclear Iran, it must be under the U.N, and it must be AFTER a nuclear fallout, because, apparently, in international relations, countries benefit from the presumption of innocence.
-the Americans are just scumbags
-Bush is a war criminal.
-The West is the puppet of the Jews.
Well, I'm about to give up on them. They're just a bunch of biased ethno-masochists.
Posted by: Elliot
at January 12, 2006 6:41 PM
Elliot-
I guess the 'Brits' you've been chatting with cherish the idea of Holocaust-denying, nihilistic-fatalistic Mahdi-expecting imperialistic religious maniacs having the power to incinerate 300,000-2,000,000 people (depending on the target) in one second, with no more qualms than they have in hanging a young Iranian girl for defending herself against homegrown rapists.
Charming.
Suicide is painless, as the song says.
Posted by: profitsbeard
at January 12, 2006 11:55 PM
Given that Iran is operating inside of hardened underground facilities, any attack must use nuclear bombs.
MOSLEMS ARE GREAT MOSLEMS ARE AWESOME MOSLEMS ARE EXCITING MOSLEMS
I'm not saying that nuking Iran is a bad thing. In fact, it's inevitable. The only real consideration is that of public relations.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer
at January 13, 2006 9:59 AM
well, Bush isnt due up for re-election, so i would guess he'd want his legacy in the history books to be the toppling of the Iranian regime.
in other words - there's really nothing holding him back.
if you google around you'll find that a full F-16 squadron is being redeployed right now to whats euphemistically termed "south west asia" - in other words, the middle east.
The aircraft carrier Reagan is on its way to the Gulf as well.
And the Israeli nukes are primed and ready to go - well, ok , i made that one up. Wouldnt be surprised if it wasnt the case however.
If you look at it from an Israeli point of view, they are staring Holocaust part 2 in the face - its completely obvious to them. Pity the EU's Solana has got its head so up its arse. Negotiations wont work - period. Threats of utter and complete anniliation will. Its time to stop dicking around.
at January 13, 2006 10:58 AM
These of course would be tactical or "field" nuclear warheads.
MORE MOSLEMS MORE MOSLEMS MORE MOSLEMS MORE MOSLEMS MORE MOSLEMS
As the Moslems continue to breed and flex their muscles, the timing of the inevitable nuclear outcome draws nearer.
I wonder how folks will react? I mean, yes I know that the Moslems will be mad, but hell, they're always pissed about something or other. But what about everybody else?
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer
at January 13, 2006 12:20 PM


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