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Why we need to open up ANWR and initiate a Manhattan Project to find new energy sources immediately -- as I have been recommending for some time now. From The Guardian, with thanks to Mackie:
Iran stepped up its defiance of international pressure over its nuclear programme yesterday by warning of soaring oil prices if it is subjected to economic sanctions. As diplomats from the US, Europe, Russia, and China prepared to meet today in London to discuss referring Tehran to the UN security council, Iran's economy minister, Davoud Danesh-Jafari, said the country's position as the world's fourth-largest oil producer meant such action would have grave consequences."Any possible sanctions from the west could possibly, by disturbing Iran's political and economic situation, raise oil prices beyond levels the west expects," he told Iranian state radio.
In a provocative move, Iran also announced plans yesterday to convene a "scientific" conference to examine the evidence supporting the Holocaust. The news comes weeks after President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad provoked a global outcry by describing the slaughter of 6 million Jews by the Nazis in the second world war as a "myth".Mr Danesh-Jafari's comments echoed fears voiced by energy market analysts after crude oil prices last week rose above $64 (£36.50) a barrel as hopes faded of a diplomatic solution to the dispute.
Posted by Robert at January 16, 2006 1:39 PM
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In an ideal world I would love to see this as the lunatics in Iran would be all starving within 12 months of sanctions.
But it is not an ideal world and firstly our gutless politicians with one eye on the oil retirement ticket would not allow it to get that far and as well their multinational superiors would not allow it; secondly even if it did happen you could be certain that the fanatics in Iran would not starve but joe average Muslim and nonMuslim would; and thirdly there are literaly millions of "businessmen" out there in the west (and east) who would just love the chance to make a few million dollars by getting material past the sanctions. (Criminals do not deserve the west so maybe they should all move to iran)
Get cold fusion NOW so we can ignore the microphallic misogynists and their muddled, miserable, megalomaniacal, mouthings
Posted by: Zathras
at January 17, 2006 12:00 AM
"Microphallic"-- thanks, Zathras. I'll put that one to good use!
I think we're better equipped to handle any energy antics the Iranians may engage in after having weathered the post-hurricane energy supply crunches. They say everything happens for a reason.
Posted by: Shinoliite
at January 17, 2006 1:23 AM
Nasty little Marmeduke and the Mad Mullahs have got the West 'over a barrel.' OIL that is. We are damned if we do intervene and damned if we don't.Whilst the West cravenly hopes little Israel will do what it did in Iraq - blast their nuclear facilities off the face of the earth - situation is much more dangerous now. WHO CAN SAY FOR SURE THAT IRAN HASN'T ALREADY GOT A NUCLEAR ARSENAL READY TO FIRE?? U.N watchdog without balls or teeth has been waffling on for months or is it a year now 'about a settlement.'
Giving the Islamic Republic plenty of time to play Taqiyya Mindgames with dippy E.U representatives while they hide their bombs underground and laugh at the 'spineless West.'
Iran would never have dared to do this if U.S hadn't
overstretched itself and got bogged down in Iraq.
Sanctions won't solve anything -the poor of Iran would starve not their leaders.
at January 17, 2006 1:42 AM
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/17012006/17/iran-breakthrough-sight.html
Posted by: zhu97
at January 17, 2006 3:38 AM
I understood that the US doesn't buy Iranian petroleum. It's the French, Russians, Chinese and possibly the Germans who are stepping all over each other in the competition to supply Iran with military technology of all sorts in exchange for Iranian crude.
Posted by: waterdragon52
at January 17, 2006 8:33 AM
Shinoliite...Thank you but it isn't original :(
A very dumb question to the rest of you: why does the world's second largest oil producer need nuclear power stations at all?
Have I missed something here? Does the Mahdi's arrival need electricity?
Posted by: Zathras
at January 17, 2006 8:59 AM
Waterdragon-- true, we don't buy Iranian oil, but an embargo by them would send prices up by making the entire world compete for pieces of a smaller pie. (Ick: A petroleum pie... with a sand crust.)
Granted, the likes of George Galloway in each of the countries you mentioned will be there to lend moral support and set up backdoor deals.
at January 17, 2006 9:40 AM
Let's use medicine, technology, finance, basically ANYTHING that these cavemen rely on from the West as a weapon against them... Let's see them eating and drinking their petroleum... Let's see them do without all those nice things they buy from us with their unearned petrodollars...
They are dust without us... Yet we allow them to threaten us in this manner? It is preposterous...!
Posted by: jsla
at January 17, 2006 12:23 PM
Full steam ahead and damn the torpedoes.
Why isn't the West doing targeted bombing of a target du jour - let's say a ship sunk in an Iranian harbour one day, a vital research lab or a munitions factory the next ?
The muelling of the Muslim street is music to some ears.
Posted by: dgene
at January 17, 2006 12:26 PM
Shinoliite:
How long do you think the Iranian economy could continue to function if they cut the supply line to the existing customer base? If they keep driving the price of oil up via an artificial shortage, they will only succeed in stimulating more alternate energy source development and conservation by more technologically innovative nations.
And imagine all of the terrorist operations around the world currently supported by Tehran -- which couldn't, last I heard, find the money to rebuild earthquake-devastated Bam and were crying about the failure of some promised western aid to materialize -- that will be left to go begging in a world with two fewer patrons (now that Saddam is gone).
at January 17, 2006 12:52 PM
Agreed completely on the ANWR drilling and Manhatten project. Until we are free of our dependence on the middle-east, we will continually be blackmailed into putting up with this junk.
Posted by: Open Eyes
at January 17, 2006 5:44 PM
Shinoliite:
How long do you think the Iranian economy could continue to function if they cut the supply line to the existing customer base?
For reasons like those you mentioned-- money for int'l terrorism, but not earthquake rebuilding-- I have my doubts about how much the Iranian economy functions at all for the average Iranian. Oddly enough, Ahmadinejad was elected partly on a platform of distributing the oil revenues more equitably among the population, but I imagine he'll put off genuinely keeping that promise with every possible excuse of what the money's needed for first, like nuclear power (for weapons, that is).
Added to that is the whole martyrdom complex that Iran has. Just as they're willing as individuals to commit suicide in jihad, I'm sure they'd impose the economic suicide of an oil embargo on their people without batting an eye. Similar to North Korea's policy-induced famine in the '90s (called "The Arduous March" in NK media), the Iranians will spin it as "epic revolutionary times."
And turn that frown upside down, 'cause surely it would mean the Mahdi was coming to town. ;)
Posted by: Shinoliite
at January 17, 2006 10:33 PM
Oops. Just to separate the response from the question, those italics were supposed to look like this:
Shinoliite:
How long do you think the Iranian economy could continue to function if they cut the supply line to the existing customer base?
at January 17, 2006 10:34 PM
My bad-- line breaks cancel italics.
Posted by: Shinoliite
at January 17, 2006 10:35 PM


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