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D. C. Watson just sent this in, responding to the Magnificent Rosenbaum's head-shaking wonderment at the fact that I "won't stop blogging":
That Robert Spencer just won't stop blogging.And why the hell should he?
If you want a good laugh at some people who feel that their opinion should be the rule, check out the website of the Council on American Islamic Relations, where they label Jihad Watch a "hate site."Of course, nobody who runs Jihad Watch said any of the things they quote, and the inflammatory comments have been removed, but CAIR doesn't care about that.
Now it appears that speaking the truth about fanatical Muslims here and abroad -- speaking clearly and honestly about their lying, underhanded, racist, and violent ways -- qualifies in CAIR's view as "hate."
Why don't we talk about hate for a minute?
Does the Council on American Islamic Relations have anything to say about its officers that have been convicted on terror- and fraud-related crimes?
How many of the Jihad Watch staff have been convicted of such offenses?Has anyone on the Jihad Watch staff ever publicly stated that they were in support of a terrorist organization, as CAIR's Nihad Awad has when he said that he was "in support of the Hamas movement"?
Does Robert Spencer or anyone else on the Jihad Watch staff complain about Muslim sites being monitored for increased radiation levels, despite the fact that Osama bin Laden and his zombies have stated that their goal is to set off a nuclear device in an American city, and that jihadists have used mosques as bases of operations around the world?
Has Robert Spencer, Hugh Fitzgerald, Rebecca Bynum, or any other Jihad Watch staffer ever said that suicide bombers are not terrorists, because they kill themselves for Christianity, as CAIR's Omar Ahmad has said of Islamic suicide bombers killing themselves for Islam?
Has Robert Spencer or any of the Jihad Watch staff ever said that they could not be full citizens of the United States because their values collide with those of America's, as has prominent Muslim spokesman Ihsan Bagby?Has the Jihad Watch site ever posted a column celebrating the deaths of Muslims?
Has the CAIR website ever issued a condemnation of the literature found in American mosques, preaching hate for the United States?
Has the CAIR website ever issued a condemnation of the madrassas that are on American soil and yet teach their students that Christianity and Judaism are false religions, and that the students should be loyal to the Qur'an, not to the United States Constitution?
The idiots in the mainstream media have proven to be useless. They are quick to condemn those who speak the truth about what lives among us and just as quick to defend those among us who are here with bad intentions.Are bloggers against hate, or feeding it?
Blogs dedicated to protecting America against terrorism are troubling the Muslim community.
Here is how Ahmed Bedier, spokesman for the Tampa Bay chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, described Joe Kaufman of Americans Against Hate: "He's spreading lies, slandering individuals...These are vigilantes."
Oh come on, Bedier, if this were true, your sensational gathering of peaceful, loving Muslims over at CAIR would be working on filing a lawsuit for slander or libel against Mr. Kaufman, just as they did against Andrew Whitehead of Anti-CAIR and Congressman Cass Ballenger.The Council on American Islamic Relations: its name is inappropriate, and its mission statement is meaningless. Its officials have adhered to neither one. CAIR says that its "mission is to enhance understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding."
Well, they have certainly enhanced understanding of Islam, although not perhaps always in ways they intended to do so. However, when it comes to "encouraging dialogue" and "building coalitions" they are about as potent as a wet match.
So who is gonna get us all killed first? The gutless morons in the mainstream media to whom groups like CAIR run, screaming "Islamophobia"? Or our vote-digging politicians who have fallen for false Muslim population voter figures, and who hold hands with the Saudi jihadists?
Pelosi
McKinneyBush
The people who know the truth, despite all the never-ending efforts to hide it from them, must never stop blogging. Truth is not bigotry. Truth is not vigilantism. Truth is truth.
Posted by Robert at January 17, 2006 2:03 PM
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"...why the hell should he?"
"Nuff said!"
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at January 17, 2006 2:21 PM
And what kind of hate caused this?(http://www.company71.org/wtc.htm)and it always stays in my PC and is a reminder of what represents real hate that is taught in the Quran against all who are infidels. Islam teaches that it is a religion without compunction and that is why their voices are so quiet.
Posted by: Mackie at January 17, 2006 2:25 PM
Correction for those who wish and should be reminded on occasion http://www.company71.org/wtc.htm
Posted by: Mackie at January 17, 2006 2:27 PM
Why should any of us stop blogging? As the mainstream media ignores or reguritates pap to the masses, bloggers seem to be the best outlet for the truth. Truth is not hate and truthsayers have always been persecuted, especially by regimes and ideologies that can't stand up to scrutiny...
Posted by: epg at January 17, 2006 2:38 PM
JW is a hate site? And CAIR is just a sewing circle I suppose. And while on the subject...I have the right to hate certain things. Hate is not all bad. I hate head-choppers, is that a sin?
The sin is in sawing the heads off of infidels, although if CAIR would tell the truth, they take joy in the deaths of infidels (that's you and me.)
at January 17, 2006 2:44 PM
CAIR's only defense against truth-tellers is to try and convince the public at large that they aren't telling the truth.
All the more reason to keep TELLING THE TRUTH.
I wish I was as "quick on the draw" as DC Watson (kudos for defending JW, even though it needs no defense)...
Posted by: Monty at January 17, 2006 2:58 PM
You just have to read this...granted it's the NOI, but is is actually comical.
http://www.thememoryhole.org/fbi/noi.htm
at January 17, 2006 3:24 PM
From the above link (thanks to a poster at LGF)
"If you know of anyone circulating information that muhammad is teaching hate or is an enemy of the muslim religion, you should knock out his teeth and shove your fist down his throat."
at January 17, 2006 3:30 PM
I've just read from the Jewish World Review that CAIR wants Cal Thomas censored by the Sun Sentinel
in Florida. They (CAIR) want him booted to the religion page from the paper's editorial page!!! What nerve. Guess that a Christian with an opinion dosen't need to have it heard. Only that which speaks in support of jihad and paganist Islam. Cal Thomas is a conservative that is pro Israel. Thus, why he has to be silenced!!! It just can't be the fact that, just like Robert Spencer, Cal is exposing Islam and the Islamists as the phonies that they are. These two Americans are sounding the trumpet in warning against Islam and the Islamic Invasion!!! It's up to us as Americans to defend our ramparts against the invading hordes.
And to repell the Islamic enemy that is trying to use our Constitution against us, to silence our truist American voices!!! NUTS TO CAIR!!!
at January 17, 2006 3:43 PM
I think your blog brings to light some excellent material. The stuff at the CAIR site just highlights a few viewer comments that might appear rude, but CAIR doesn't directly comment on or rebutt any of the root story line. Even what they highlight is pretty tame by modern standards of criticism / verbal abuse whichever side of the comments you're on.
Think of CAIR as giving you free publicity. Keep up the good work, they obviously don't like your kind of exposure. They must feel the shame of their violent and backward tribal society. The darkness hates the light.
Obadiah the prophet said:
"Because of the violence against your brother Jacob, you will be covered with shame;"
Paul the apostle said:
"Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men's hearts; and then each man's praise will come to him from God"
Mr Spencer, I think you're part of this work.
Posted by: Bicheno at January 17, 2006 3:54 PM
Perhaps the people of CAIR should spend their time listening to the hate preached at Wahabbi funded mosques in the USA instead of spending their spare time reading the comments at JW.
Posted by: Darius LaMonica at January 17, 2006 4:23 PM
DC,
I love your style. Well said.
Consider adding Congressman John Conyers as just another one of the "vote-digging politicians "who continues
suicidal pandering to (supposed #'s)muslim constituency.
Mackie, Thanks for providing the link to the 9/11 tribute. I've bookmarked it as well. I wish that at the end of that tribute (where credit is given to Enya's, "Only Time") special note is made again to President Bush's statement making no distinction between the terrorists and those choosing to harbor terrorists juxtaposed with links to sites like Jihad Watch and Dhimmi Watch - provided for accurate, up to date exploration and discovery of the question "WHY?" ( "Why" was flashed on the tribute)
For the Italians:
E il Koran stupido!
For the Germans:
Es ist das Koran, Sie idiot!
And for French:
C'est le Quran, stupide!
In plain english . . .
"It's the Koran, stupid!"
at January 17, 2006 4:39 PM
U.S. State department report on human rights in Saudi Arabia - a state that practises Sharia Law.
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2004/41731.htm
Read it - read it again - and read some more.
The bit I didnt know about was this:
"The Government restricted academic freedom. The Government prohibited the study of evolution, Freud, Marx, Western music, and Western philosophy. Professors reportedly believed that informers monitored their classroom comments and reported them to government and religious authorities."
So, you cant study Darwin or the music of Mozart in Saudi.
Posted by: archduke at January 17, 2006 4:45 PM
Justamomof4: It's "Es ist der Koran, Sie Idiot" but I get your drift ;-)
I personally wouldn't use the word "Idiot" because I've got better swear-words in my vocabulary (in both English and German)...
Posted by: disillusioned_german at January 17, 2006 5:43 PM
I remember that it's only a few weeks ago that Mr Spencer had a run in with CAIR. It was another attempt by CAIR to silence critics. It failed but won't be the last attempt.
Surely a religion as robust as Islam which can trace its inception back to classical antiquity can rebut the critical examination of a mere mortal. Muslim groups and individuals should welcome questions directed at their faith. Unless of course their religion with its Byzantine rules and customs portrays the author of that religion as a psychopath who promoted anhedonia among its misanthropic adherents.
Posted by: Salad_In at January 17, 2006 6:52 PM
Robert Robert Robert, there you go again.
You have got to get off this facts and logic absurdity, and realize that these things never convince any of the worthies who know that their FEEEEEEEEEEELINGS are what is important.
Besides it's ever so much easier to pick on americans whose sensibility keeps any physical harm from threatening the writer, whereas if you take on people who believe that you stand in the way of dawa, and interfere with it's call...anything is liable to happen.
Posted by: epaminondas at January 17, 2006 8:30 PM
I propose a new symbol of defiance: a flugelhorn in a red circle with a red line through it (like the "no smoking" sign):
As long as jihad threatens Western civilization, nobody we know is about to turn his back and take up the trumpet's mellower cousin.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009332.php
Posted by: Shinoliite at January 17, 2006 9:17 PM
Found ths at CAIR, worth a read.
http://www.cair-net.org/default.asp?Page=articleView&id=350&theType=AA
I don't see this as "hate speach", and see this as a attempt to state a learned position.
I saw this show, and agreed with his statements. Can Hal be wrong?
Posted by: Islofob IS-1 at January 17, 2006 9:48 PM
CAIR is practicing taqqiya when they spell out their initials. They really stand for Create Another Islamic Republic.
Ironman Hondo
On Fox News Watch, Cal Thomas usually points out these double standards when it comes to Islam. Last week, he mentioned how the creators of "The Book of Daniel" wouldn't dare to pull a similar stunt on Mohammed. Similarly, in the past, he hasn't hesitated to pillory the media for describing Islam as a RoP, pointing out that they don't have a clue about either Islamic history, or contemporary Islamic countries.
Robert/Hugh/DC
I think that while CAIR deserves contempt, it is beneath us to waste time on them. Actual jihadi events worldwide are things we should focus more on. Let the task of combatting CAIR be left to the likes of anti-CAIR. For us to do that would be like paying attention to the trolls on this forum.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 18, 2006 2:44 AM
Fighting the much needed good fight for those of us out here without a voice
keep up the extremely good work admin people, you are the last bastion of sense and defence of our non islamic world
and you have to be doing something right, if those your exposing are getting the 'hump'
at January 18, 2006 4:46 AM
JW, is a public service, they are telling the truth. All my support to JW.
Posted by: Franze at January 18, 2006 8:13 AM
I even bought the t-shirt. (Truth.)
at January 18, 2006 9:22 AM
I saw a similar thing in 2002 when an Islamic organisation got some of their members to post the most ridiculous, hateful thing about Islam (the Ips traced back to one office), and they then complained and one of the very big British newspaper messageboards ended up being censored.
I suspect that may well be the case here.
If they can't find inflammatory material, they make it up and pretent it's someone else, because they haven't got the balls to say that they're upset with the truth being posted.
Hey, why don't CAIR stand up and condemn ALL Islamic terrorism, instead of whispering that they don't condone it, but they're actions of taking a pro-terrorist stance whenever the opportunity lends itself is very telling, because actions speak louder than words.
Posted by: Jerusalem Posts at January 18, 2006 1:55 PM
Question from Jerusalem Posts: Hey, why don't CAIR stand up and condemn ALL Islamic terrorism, instead of whispering that they don't condone it, but they're actions of taking a pro-terrorist stance whenever the opportunity lends itself is very telling, because actions speak louder than words.
Answer: Because it is necessary to possess a spine if one were to attempt to stand up. Otherwise, one remains a blob of poo......
Posted by: DCWatson at January 18, 2006 2:19 PM
Answer: Because it is necessary to possess a spine if one were to attempt to stand up. Otherwise, one remains a blob of poo......
A blob of poo....lol
That's CAIR alright, a blob of poo!
The Center For Arrogant Islamic Radicals
Posted by: Asylum inmate at January 18, 2006 6:04 PM
Good News My Fellow Americans and Lovers of Fredom;
The Sun Sentinel just anounced that Cal Thomas' colume will remain as is!!! "We the People" have spoken and CAIR felt the wrath of our resolution!!! But we can not let up. This enemy is too ignorant to stop. Thus we must continue to be vigilant. We have "Right" on our side. They've just "Islam"
God Bless the Sun Sentinel, and God Bless America!!!
at January 20, 2006 11:21 AM
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