Gee, isn't Europe a wonderful ally!!!!

Yeah, and the dish ran away with the spoon!

Posted by: pythagoras at January 17, 2006 9:21 PM

Iran could be dealt with "the French way"

Running backwards while blowing kisses.

Remembered that from an old Letterman Top 10 list about the French reaction to the reunification of Germany. True as ever.

The French have been overrun twice in the last century. You'd think they'd be hawkish as all hell after that, but now, of course, they're letting it happen again. One has to marvel at the lessons unlearned from the first two world wars, and at the politicians' willingness to take their contrarian stance with the US to the point of running their culture, history, and people over the edge of a cliff into voluntary dhimmitude.

Posted by: Shinoliite at January 17, 2006 9:28 PM

The Russians and Chinese have already stated the intent to block U.N. sanctions.

Is this not enough to plan the next step?

Posted by: Islofob IS-1 at January 17, 2006 9:31 PM

shinoliite said: The French have been overrun twice in the last century. You'd think they'd be hawkish as all hell after that
I couldn't agree more. what the hell is wrong with the damned French? I think they hate and resent America so much that they are willing to cut off their nose to spite, well, US! Why do the French hate us so much? We saved their nation, a great nation....Wouldn't one expect some degree of gratitude.
A joke I heard here: How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris....? Answer: No one knows, they've never tried.

Posted by: templar at January 17, 2006 9:39 PM

As usual, Pythagoras, your conclusions are shaped by the last bottom that sat on your analytical abilities.

"Legally speaking, Iran should have been referred to the Security Council at that time".

It was, in fact, the USA that decided that the Europeans should be given one more chance at that time to bring Iran into the fold. A Pakistan/India type solution was preferred by the USA at the time and the USA Government hoped that Europe could play the same role towards Iran as the USA did, and does, to Pakistan under General Mushareef.

Pulling two quotes from M. de Villepin together and trying to pretend that they relate to this issue is dishonest reporting of the highest order - worse, in a way, than Ms. Rosenbaum in St. Petersburg.

Both Europe and the USA were, and still are, very worried about the oil price and supply. One of Iran's largest customers is China. China's demand for oil grows on an almost daily basis. Disruption to Iran's oil production, or Iran deciding to disrupt oil supplies to any of its customers because of actions Europe and/or the USA may take, would be catastrophic in global economic terms - quite apart from the fact that the Government of China has warned us all off in no uncertain terms. China, remember, is a nuclear power with a very, very large, modern army, navy and air-force.

That, Pythagoras, as I said to you in another posting a few days ago, is what your own Government, and European Governments, are having to contend with - the world picture, which you refuse to see just so that you can carry on being rude about the Europeans (people about whom you obviously know nothing and care even less). As I said to you before "There are none so blind as those who WILL not see".

Posted by: Certiorari at January 17, 2006 9:52 PM

Given what is bound to be a diplomatic impasse, anyone willing to speculate on how soon we'll see military action? (e.g. pre-emptive strikes on suspected nuclear installations).

Posted by: WTF at January 17, 2006 9:59 PM

The usa shoud be the expelled from the security council then referred to the security council for war crimes. Impose sanctions against the usa until it stops invading innocent countries. The regime currently in control of the black house will stop at nothing to advance thier control and influence on the entire world. Living in canada one can clearly see that the usa never really wants to negotiate on anything. They are takers and they will take what they want sparing no expense or human life. The usa lives in a state of fear and any nation that is scared becomes a very dangerous nation. Only a dedicated group of nations that oppose american agression can stop the reign of terror commited by the usa.

Robert DeLancey from Canada

Posted by: Robert DeLancey at January 17, 2006 10:07 PM

Robert DeLancey from Canada -

Please, canuk. We capitalize USA.

Posted by: Havoc at January 17, 2006 10:25 PM

Q.Why do the French line their streets with trees.
A.So the Germans (or Jihadis) can march in the shade.

Posted by: mistyhymen at January 17, 2006 10:32 PM

A memo to Robert delancey--

So, Iraq was an innocent country, you claim in earnest. That would be news to us.

When a Middle Eastern government sets up a sleeper terror cell in a non-Islamic country as Sadddam Hussein's did and numerous Middle Eastern government still do, that is a PARAMILITARY INVASION with intent to kill civilians in that chosen country. So, apparently according to you non-Islamic countries have no rights to defend themselves against Islamic Holy War. What would YOU suggest such countries do to protect themselves from it? And why haven't you done it yet?????

The setting up of Islamic terrorist "sleeper cells" in a non-Islamic country constitutes a PARAMILITARY INVASION of that country. Jihad is warfare. Jihadists are Islamic warriors. Any nation that is invaded by Islamic sleeper cells is in danger of having its people being murdered by those cells of terrorists. Any military action taken in countries that participate jihad and the setting up of 'sleeper cells'on foreign territories is therefore a COUNTER-INVASION and has been provoked by the Middle Eastern national government that is implicated in the setting up of the "sleeper cells." The United States counter-invaded Iraq AFTER its territory was invaded by such "sleeper cells" from the Middle East (and Canada). This is a far cry from the unprovoked 'war crimes' you accuse Americans of!!

We could accuse YOU of aiding and abetting Islamic jihadists and terror cells to murder non-Muslims. Which you are doing unwittingly here. Ignorance of the law does not shield one from the consequences of violating a law. We think you are unwittingly committing a war crime--aiding and abetting Islamic jihadists by means of political interventionism. Even if you don't mean to, you are still helping these people kill innocent civilians in the western democracies.

Any Islamic government supporting jihad gets let off the hook by your political line of reasoning. Too bad these governments will never take the trouble to thank you. It's too bad you don't understand that you don't count in their view either. You are an "infidel" to them, and they will never take your side--even when YOU take theirs as you have here.

Furthermore, Saddam Hussein was responsible for two terrorist attacks on American soil including the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Tower and the downing of a 800 over Long Island in 1996. This is your idea of innocence, Mr. Delancey?? What a twisted concept of innocence you have.

The government of Saddam Hussein murdered 2 million civilizans AT LEAST. 10% of that country's national population. And Hussein had no scruples about exporting this. Hussein's government through Mukhabarat assisted with the bombings of the Kenya and Tanzania Embassy Buildings in 1998, killing 225, and maiming over 2000. More 'innocence,' Mr. Delancey???

Therefore, Iraq was not "innocent' as you claim. Not at all. Moreover you have falsely mis-stated the issue to suit your own political agenda. And you are fully aware you have done so, no?

Shame on you Mr. Delancey. You are a bald-faced, shameless liar.

Posted by: pythagoras at January 17, 2006 11:12 PM

Since Mr. RD from C is going to take us down anyway,

I vote we invade Canada and confiscate all the beer!

Posted by: treehugger at January 17, 2006 11:17 PM

Certiorari-

What you may not understand is that Russia, China, and the Muslims have ALREADY lined up against the western democracies. Appeasement may buy time. But very little. Nor will it solve anything. WW3 arrived some time ago, like it or not. These countries are like sharks circling after they have smelled blood. (Or appeasement).

When European politicians like de Villepin cease being rude to Americans, I will return the favor.

Posted by: pythagoras at January 17, 2006 11:36 PM

According to Mr. RD from Canada, it is no longer a crime to kill 2 million people, to butcher Kurds, or to repress citizens in a country and dump their bodies in unmarked mass graves. One is also allowed to eliminate all political competition by having those individuals killed, and one can also squash all attempts of free speech within as long as this person is Anti-American, one can get away with any crime no matter how abhorrent or vile. One can commit Genocide if one wishes, just as long as this person claims that America is to blame for everything in the world. At that point you rate the title "innocent country"

Posted by: x_achillesheel_x at January 17, 2006 11:39 PM

Robert DeLancey listen up... yeah, like someone wrote above, Saddam killed 2 million people. So it is up to the US to fix it... because after all, we are now the world's only superpower, basically the world police. So the hell with all you "coalition-building" pussies, we need to kick some ass. I saw several terrorists on my way to work today, and I wasn't even looking very hard. And if it means dropping cluster bombs on a bunch of those damned jibberish-speaking foreigners, so be it. It's just not safe anymore with all those jihadis running about. Was getting a falafel wrap for lunch today, and looking out the shop window, I noticed a couple of those bastards rigging up a car bomb under my F150. It is time to fight back... invade Iran now, 'cause if we don't, they will have the bomb like us, China, Israel, Pakistan, and other acceptably reliable countries. Iran is a threat, just like Iraq was, to Western civilization, and to all of mankind. And furthermore, they are not contributing one bit to the global economy. When was the last time you bought something that said "made in Iran". At least the Chinese contribute to our standard of living, even if they have some minor issues with their troublemaking liberals. Iran is not capable of managing their oil resources for everyone's best interest, yet another reason we need to take action. I hear there are some parts of Iran where they don't even allow evolution to be taught. Backwards... their people need liberation pronto, and with recent successes, we have proven we can do that. And we have the financial might to back it up, minor budget deficits notwithstanding. What's a few hundred billion, when it's your children's future at stake. Think about the children!

Posted by: WTF at January 18, 2006 1:19 AM

Shinoliite: " The French have been overrun twice in the last century. You'd think they'd be hawkish as all hell after that, but now, of course, they're letting it happen again."

The French are not really known for having much of a spine.

What kind of dog you are dealing with when you describe the French?

Great Dane?
German Shepard?
British Bulldog?
Nope.

The French Poodle

Perfect match for the spineless French character.

Wimpy as hell, obsessed with glamour, and crave affection.

Have you ever attempted to teach a poodle to become a hunting dog?

You might have better luck than you would teaching the French how to defend their country from Muslims.

Posted by: Johnathan at January 18, 2006 1:20 AM

Pythagoras-- you suggest invading Canada in jest, but this should not be taken lightly. They have an advanced nuclear program, ostensibly uranium enrichment for their CANDU nuclear reactors. But it is actually a covert bomb-making program. They would have had a bomb by now, but they spend so much time drinking beer, watching NHL, and clubbing baby harp seals that it's taking them a little longer than your smarter countries like the Pakistanis or Chinese. That's also why they have so many Pakistani and Chinese immigrants... on the surface, they are running all the convenience stores and restaurants, but this is just a cover for passing on nuclear secrets from their home countries, to help out the slow-witted Canadians finish building their bombs. Clearly they're attempting to acquire a nuclear deterrent to US invasion, so it's necessary to pre-empt them now. Canada is already ranked #2 in the world for proven oil reserves, and they fear that the US will annex them to get at these resources, with coming peak oil. The time to act is now. So there is Iran, Canada, and don't even get me started on Venezuela. Like I said in my previous post, we have the financial resources to wage at least 8-10 wars at once, so I welcome others to add to the list. The only way to survive as a nation is to identify nations that are threats, and nations that could potentially become threats. Once these nations are identified, their leadership should be provided with the opportunity to capitulate and allow us to install a Western democracy, whether Magna-Carta style, or 1776-style, their choice. If they decline the offer, we begin the liberation process. Anyone who can't understand these simple steps just needs to get some education, or at least watch some news and get informed.

Posted by: WTF at January 18, 2006 1:40 AM

Johnathan -- you asked "Have you ever attempted to teach a poodle to become a hunting dog?". Well, I have read the disinformation that the poodle was bred as a waterfowl retriever for hunting... see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle

However, early in the 20th century, the French launched a covert genetic engineering program to make poodles incapable of doing anything other than crapping on your lawn, and barking while you attempt to watch Fox News Sunday Morning w/ Brit Hume. It's a conspiracy to prevent us from learning the truth about French foreign policy.

The French learned nothing from being invaded twice in less than 30 years. Their feeble nuclear weapons, ICBMs, and fighter planes are all a hoax. Because when their troops get on the ground, they can't fight for more than 10 minutes without a cigarette and cafe break. The problem is they don't invade enough other countries... and we call know that practice makes perfect, that is why we are tops in this department.

Posted by: WTF at January 18, 2006 1:55 AM

quote: "Iran could be dealt with "the French way," meaning negotiations and compromise rather than knuckle-rapping or worse."

Yes, that was 3 years ago. Now that the French have failed (surprise !!) I do not think they where actually thinking they would succeed. What they in fact did, and did rather good, was buying the rest of the world time in order to not have the Iraq and Iran matter running at the same time.

At the present day, both matters don't seem to have much in common and both threats can be dealt with. Ofcourse, the Iran of 3 years ago isn't the same Iran today (or, appears to be) and 3 years ago Iran didn't have a thug-in-chief accusing the West of all kind of nonsense, and a "normal" solution was possible.

Today, ofcourse, a normal solution isn't possible anymore and with every accusation of Iran against "the West" the chance of a violent-less ending of this matter decreases sharply.

Posted by: DrWolffenstein at January 18, 2006 3:39 AM

As a Canadian I would like to apologize for the idiot calling himself, Robert DeLancey from Canada. Please keep in mind that not all Canadians think like this fool. Many Canadians still remember who fought with us on D-Day. Many Canadians still remember who our biggest trading partner, and best friend is. No, the relationship is not perfect but none are.

As for you, Robert DeLancey from Canada, why don’t you run along and vote for the liberals like a good moron. You might take note, Robert DeLancey from Canada, that the Canadian liberal party is a real example a corrupt political party.

Posted by: SnowDawg at January 18, 2006 3:47 AM

i read above how europe is such a great ally (with full sarcasm applied), somewhat with despair

i'm from britain and be assured alot of my own here in britain would happily support america in direct action against most of the islamic world, hey we'd like to support ourselves in direct action against these regimes of the death cult, but we're socially, politically castrated and as such disempowered by our dhimmi leadership

But we are hamstrung, direct from Londonistan and chief dhimmi Blair is the usual rhetoric and the unwillingness to have all the islamic fifth columnists suddenly rev up here whilst any of our troops conceivably attack yet another of their 'brother' states

over in the islamic republic of France they have enough problems with the islamists there already burning their towns and cities without actually giving them a reason

and lets get real germanys just one step away from a full blown genocidal act, but at the moment the muslims are not quite in large enough numbers yet to carry it out..;-D

WHAT can we do? Iran controls a large amount of oil and is already threatening

WE have large populations of violent 'moderate' muslims who wish to kill us all now and our society structure means we have no real power to stop them

EUROPE is tied down, and most europeans want whats right in this, But our leaderships are content to appease the hell out of our natural enemies and are even actively bringing yet more in to our nations

we look to russia and china maybe, but they have too many vested interests in Iran to actually do whats right

so who's left, why its only the states who can actually do anything, and be assured i sincerly hope it does, the possibility of Iran obtaining a nuke has to be one of the worst senario's for the middle east

but please dont slight europe as a whole as being useless, the majority of its people would happil take up arms and defend it at home and abroad, sadly currently we'd do this only to end up in jail for life due to the likes of cleric Blair and abu chirac citing us under racial and human rights laws, hey reality check i could end up in jail for posting this is you want to get technical

Posted by: Taranus at January 18, 2006 4:44 AM

Taranus,

The US allows non-citizens to join its military. So there you go, any European who wishes to fight global jihad and is pissed off that his home country will not fight can join the US military and, as they say: "Travel the world. Meet interesting people. Kill them."

Posted by: Big G In TX at January 18, 2006 9:29 AM

Robert DeLancey,

We can argue all day about whether Iraq was involved with terrorists. However, even if I were to concede that Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism and was absolutely no threat to anyone, they were still far from being an "innocent" country. They violated the cease fire on a regular basis and that by itself gave the US the right to invade. Beyond that, we now know that they had corrupted UN officials in the oil-for-food program.

We didn't need terrorism to justify what we're doing in Iraq, it was just convenient.

Iran is going down the same road. The UN has told it to stop doing something and it has said "No." What are we to do? Sit on our hands until the nukes start falling on Israel before we act? I think the world learned in WWII what happens when you let a madman arm his country.

Posted by: Big G In TX at January 18, 2006 9:39 AM

What the U.N. does or does not say should not matter. The U.N. is corrupt and corrupting. What matters is the intelligent appraisal of the nature of the Iranian regime, and a calculus as to what it would, could, might do with nuclear weapons. Do what Learned Hand did in a certain famous civil-liberties case: multiply the likelihood of the potential harm by the magnitude of the potential harm. In Hand's decision, he found the magnitude so great as to offset the littleness of the likelihood of that harm (the overthrow of the U.S. government by Communists) coming to pass.

In this case, the likelihood of such weapons being used is great, and the magnitude of the harm that would result goes off the charts.

There is no need to quibble or worry about the non-existent "world community" or that "world community's" self-appointed Man Friday, Kofi Annan (a little joke there, for those few keeping up with some form of their Kwa).

And get out of Iraq now, so as to deal with Iran with nothing in the way, nothing to tie down the soldiers or have them serve as involuntary hostages to Iran's likely response. How much longer can this misunderstanding of both the nature and therefore menace of Islam, and the nature of Iraq, its sectarian and ethnic divisions simply dying to be exploited, continue? How much more obstinacy, and from that obstinacy, and lack of imagination -- waste, and paralysis when it comes to the important things? How much, and for how long?

Posted by: Hugh at January 18, 2006 11:31 AM

Yeah, the UN is irrelevant. It was formed at the end of WW2 to prevent a final war that would vaporize all of humanity... how did that work out? Talk about outdated. It was just lucky that it worked getting Iraq out of Kuwait, and another stroke of luck that its weapons inspectors systematically destroyed all those WMD in Iraq. Then the security council didn't approve of the '03 invasion, those bunch of cowards. Don't they understand we are in a new era, where international law is irrelevant? It's every country for itself. Hasn't anyone ever read Nietzche? We are the superman, even more specifically commander-in-chief is the superman. It is our duty to force our will on those who do not comply. Those who disagree are rightfully ridiculed, their ancestors being complete idiots. Due to talk radio, the average American has a better grasp of history that their foreign policy opinions are much more informed than some cheese-eating Frenchman. By the way, it's not just the French Canadians who are arrogant, it's all of them. I met Wayne Gretzky a few years ago, and what a pompous egotistical ass. I can't believe how he is so popular. Only in Canada. I can't believe we are cursed with such rotten neighbors. I would be happy to trade them for Uzbekistan or Somalia.

Posted by: WTF at January 18, 2006 1:35 PM

Taranus-

You refer to my post. I understand your concern not to worry however. I was not really referring to Britain in particular. I was primarily concerned with the governments of the countries of France, Belgium and France which carry much influence in the EU bloc.

Britain has been a reasonably good ally of America's and I for the most part do not have a negative view of you. I am grateful that you helped us with Iraq which you didn't need to do at all and which cost British lives. I do however worry about the strong leftist element that has been gaining in influence in sectors of British society and I am concerned at some of the results I now see. But that was not what I referred to in my post.

I did not mean to offend Britain as the United States currently needs support from its trusted colleagues. It is as I say the governmments of France, Germany, and Belgium that I was referring to in particular.

ps-Thankfully Schroder is gone and Miss Merkel is now at the helm. We wish Germans well under their new leadership!

Posted by: pythagoras at January 18, 2006 2:29 PM

Taranus: My God Bless England, you have the same problem that we have here in America, most of the population is aware of the threat that Islam imposes, but our Goverment Officials continue to cater to what I call the enemy, and it's quite frustrating, hopefully our goverments will wake up in time.

And for robert delancey of canada instead of wasting your time trying to post and intelligent thought why don't you go back to placing your lips on the asses of muslims.Oh yeah in the line were you stated that the USA is a taker and not a giver. Well this country has given more to this world than any one else has ever thought of giving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Real American at January 18, 2006 9:01 PM

It's true the usa has given a lot to this world. Thousands and thousands of tons of bombs dropped from us planes around the world.

Big G in TX you are right when you say "We didn't need terrorism to justify what we're doing in Iraq, it was just convenient" That about sums it up perfectly. Their was and is no justification for attacking Iraq. The case for going to war was bogus and the case for staing there is even less credible than that.

The history of US agression around the world just proves the usa is a hostile nation and by it's own definition a terrorist state. One of the worst if the record is carefully examined

pythageros where to start... WTC 93 was headed by a Kuwaiti man and assisted by caertain people from Saudi Arabia.
Both countries the usa still heavily supports Right?

Flight 800 was by an Egyptian group. I really can't believe that americans think Iraq was responsible for either of those or 9/11.

Most all of the people involved in 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia. Not Iraq. Wake up. Someone here in Canada told me that some americans still believe Iraq was responsible for 9/11 but I replied no way! Nobody could be that uninformed, still! Apperantly I was wrong.

"political interventionism". Come on,an american accusing a Canadian of that is ludicrous. Your contry's loooooong history of interventions is well known around the world and well documented. Of all the things you could of accused me of you chose that. LOL

As for the innocent Iraq statement. I stand by it.
Do I believe Saddam was innocent. No way. He was not. No more than your president is innocent for his war crimes.
Iraq was taken over by Saddam and used as an instrument of his choosing. He should have been taken out of power long before. But he wasn't because he was useful to the usa during the Iraq/Iran war.
The usa even armed Saddam VERY well !!!!
However it's the majority of Iraq's INNOCENT population that has to bear the burden of the slaughter that the usa has caused and you people on this site seem to celebrate this slaughter of innocents.

You know maybe I was wrong after all.
The usa will not have to be taken down by a dedicated group of nations. It appears to be corrupting internally all by itself. Just like the Roman empire did. The bigger they are.

Posted by: Robert DeLancey at January 18, 2006 9:57 PM

The iranians are buying time of course..

But the real question is.

Why is the world so worried about iran having a nuke vs say pakistan, india or north korea..

While True that China and Russia both threatened to obliterate all of the United states..

They also were Sane enough to realize that in a full exchange both sides would loose...

So this kept a balance..

But with the Iranians you have a different problem. The problem is Islam...

As the Iranian Thug in Chief rattles his sword the reality is everyone believes he is a Nut Case..

Since the iranian president really believes that by causing mass destruction and wiping out millions of civilians will sow chaos...

And that Chaos is what is required by the Followers of the religion of Pieces islam...
In order to bring back another Faschist called the 12th imam...

I dont doubt this Iranian Idiot will actually fire it off as soon as they build it..

Why would the iranian so called president want this..

Because the Death Cult Islam teaches if you die fighting for the Black flag of Islam..
YOu go to Allahs whorehouse in the sky..

So in his mind even if he failed by committing national suicide he guarantees all of irans inhabitants will go to heaven..

This is why having a muslim nation with a nuke is so appalling to the rest of the world..

We the United States of America used these weapons to STOP and END a horiffic War..

The Muslim faschists WILL use them to Start WW IV

Posted by: jingoist at January 18, 2006 10:22 PM

Robert DeLancy: " The history of US agression around the world just proves the usa is a hostile nation and by it's own definition a terrorist state. One of the worst if the record is carefully examined

You sound like a true Canadian who stands for absolutely nothing in the world. Canada is a country that has very little significance on the world stage. Your military is a complete laughing stock that probably couldn't beat a boy scout troup.

The U.S. has courageously taken a stand against oppressive regimes and nations in the world that have opposed the cause of freedom. It is truly a noble effort that the U.S. has undertaken. The world community is in a much better place because the U.S. has bravely used its military strength to free opressed people.

It is time that you get your facts right, the U.S. does not engage in terrorism, the taking of innocent lives as a form of warfare. How dare you make this kind of false statement. Terrorism is the work of backwards nations, like most Muslim ones, that don't have much military strength and have to resort to desperate tactics to make political or religious statement.

Posted by: Johnathan at January 18, 2006 10:27 PM

"You know maybe I was wrong after all.
The usa will not have to be taken down by a dedicated group of nations. It appears to be corrupting internally all by itself. Just like the Roman empire did. The bigger they are."quote"

I hope this poster thinks about what he may be hoping for. The downfall of the U.S. leadership will impact the world, and Canada would be in the direct line of fire.

A bit of history would teach that the people of the U.S. hold the power here, the loss of the gov. would quickly be replaced, perhaps with better reps. for the masses .

Posted by: Islofob IS-1 at January 18, 2006 11:00 PM

From silly post above: "...celebrate this slaughter..."

Perhaps when the seracen's knife has staunched the ruby flow, and the last sounds which reverberate on the morphology of your inner ear sound like "Allahuakbar! Allahuakbar!"... then, perhaps, you'll change your hate filled tune about how utterly terrible America is... But then, it will be too late...!

So, "...celebrate this slaughter..."? Perhaps... But that would be your own damn fault, now, wouldn't it?

Posted by: jsla at January 19, 2006 8:39 PM

Memo to WTF from Pythagoras:

I wasn't suggesting the US invade Canada at all. Rather I was hinting at the unfortunate reality that Islamic terror networks have been hiding in Canada and therein posing a serious strategic problem for Americans as the target of these networks is (almost certainly) the United States. If I am not mistaken terrorists involved in 9-11 used Canada as a springboard to gain entry into the United States. There was another serious incident late in 1999, in which an al-Qaeda operative was stopped at the US-Canadian border on his way to LAX (to blow it to smithereens)--he was part of a sleeper cell planted in Canada.

Believe me, WTF, I see nothing amusing or light in this situation. (And I don't wish to invade Canada). However, I do think Canadians will need to work considerably harder at weeding out Islamic terrorists than they have been--they have enough of them that's for sure--before it is too late.

Posted by: pythagoras at January 20, 2006 1:59 PM