True enough except for the fact that al-Qaida has actually been talking about doing this for two years or more. So they should be about ready to hit it, I guess.

See also:

Al Qaida's strategic targets discussion [updated]

Posted by: Al Haganah at January 19, 2006 3:27 PM

There are quite a few up here that are keeping the FEDS busy.

Malaysian, Indonisian, North Korean large fishing/shipping vessels are in Alaskan waters on a regular basis and the Coast Guard is trying to keep up with them. But that does not count the ones that reside here already.

Alaska is to big to keep them out of, and is to easy to slip into and accross the Canadian border.

Posted by: alaskan1000 at January 19, 2006 3:48 PM

Just as I've always said- when the "Palestinians" and the Arabs speak about taking Al-Aksa, they really mean ALASKA!

Posted by: Ben-Hur at January 19, 2006 4:52 PM

A tip for the Eskimohammedeans....Eat all the yellow snow that you stumble upon....it's really really good for you.

Posted by: DCWatson at January 19, 2006 4:59 PM

Bin Laden, if he is still alive, says in his recent tape:

"My message to you is about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and the way to end it.

I had not intended to speak to you about this issue, because, for us, this issue is already decided on: diamonds cut diamonds.

Praise be to God, our conditions are always improving and becoming better, while your conditions are to the contrary of this."

Funny that this comes out after the strike on the Paki border. It must have killed some serious terrorist scum. They are losing and are destined to lose. I didn't know that a bomb maker burning in Hell means their conditions are improving.

And about Alaska. Warning to the terrorist cockroaches. We have guns, lots of them, and we shoot back.

When I think of mohammed I think of Matthew 24:11.

Posted by: Founding Forefather at January 19, 2006 5:13 PM

Al Haganah said "al-Qaida has actually been talking about doing this for two years or more"

Thanks for the link. Not that you meant this, but I wouldn't discount the possibility because they have been talking about it for years and haven't done it yet. That would be typical for Al Qaeda, to spend years in the planning stage. Don't know why the Anchorage Daily News said it's a new document though.

If the jihadists targeted an oil pipeline, that would not necessarily be such a bad thing, relatively speaking: there would be few if any human casualties, and the resulting spike in oil prices might finally spur us into moving to other energy sources. It would be painful economically in the short term, but it's better than some of the other things the jihadists could do.

Posted by: special_guest at January 19, 2006 5:43 PM

I can just see Muslims that are used to 120 degree weather toughing it through -50 degree or lower temps. Ain't going to happen and if they are stupid enough to try it, I'm sure some patriotic Alaskans will be more than happy to put a few bullet hole in them.

Posted by: czekmark` at January 19, 2006 6:21 PM

If the jihadists targeted an oil pipeline, that would not necessarily be such a bad thing, relatively speaking: there would be few if any human casualties, and the resulting spike in oil prices might finally spur us into moving to other energy sources. It would be painful economically in the short term, but it's better than some of the other things the jihadists could do.

Posted by: special_guest at January 19, 2006 05:43 PM

NO It would cause a FDR on all mulsums in the USA yes a good call for Interment!!!

are you a fool or what??

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Posted by: Catherine at January 19, 2006 6:58 PM

To the jihadists:

Don't mind those pesky kodiak bears...and here's hoping you wear plenty of microfleece!!! You'll need it.

Posted by: kafira at January 19, 2006 7:07 PM

Any interruption in domestic production can be considered an act of economic warfare, not merely by Bin Laden, but by all those who raised him, nurtured him, gave him and his associates their beliefs, provided money, provided through that money the ability to buy weapons, train othres, pay for audiocassettes and videocassettes. That being the case, the assets of enemy nationals -- Saudis --in the United States can be seized, as German-owned assets were seized during World War II. Seized, and sold for the benefit of the Treasury. This war effort, this monitoring, these security measures, all cost a lot. The Saudis should be the first ones paying for it.

And then there is the little matter of Saudi oilfields, and their vulnerability. Perhaps a sample of how easy it is to sabotage those -- or, in the alternative, to seize them -- would be a salutary lesson for all concerned. Saudi policy, inside and outside that country, has to change. As does that of every Muslim country exporting its citizens, and in their mental baggage a belief-system inimical to Infidel wellbeing. Many are no longer willing to go along, even if they do not quite know why, with the mixture as before. When they come to this site, they begin to understand why.

Posted by: Hugh at January 19, 2006 7:30 PM

very sad to hear! The environmental damage concerns me as much as the loss of oil. Maybe the citizens of Alaska should form militias and include all Alaskans, including the native Eskimos, Indians and other groups to stop these creeps. What better people to use than those who know the area much more than the terrorist. It is a vast area but if the locals are aware I think they can protect their resources and the enviroment the old fasioned way.

A lot of people have not heard of Jihad watch yet and a good way would be for us to email the producer at coast to coast am to get Robert an interview on that radio show. Coast to coast has a huge audience across American and the world.
Contact Lisa Lyon:
lisa@coasttocoastam.com

Ask that Robert Spencer be interviewed on the show, possibly about his web site, last book or whatever pertains to current events dealing with radical Islam.
Roberr Spencer, in my humble opinion, is a modern day Paul Revere!! If CAIR does not like the truth he posts, too bad. It is still 1st Amendment protected speech.

Posted by: eaglecap at January 19, 2006 7:34 PM

They should put surveillance cameras on every major infastructure we have and attach 50 calliber machine guns to them and only the military could be dispatched to use the guns.

Posted by: parainvesta at January 19, 2006 7:40 PM

There is no way to protect the majority of the pipeline. It is over 800 miles long.

Most people still don't understand the size of Alaska. Alaska is 2 1/2 times the size of Texas. There is more coastal shoreline in Alaska then ALL of the United States of America. That is why the ANWR argument is such a joke. The development is so small (smaller then a country town) and the location is so vast.

So with only 600,000 people there will be minimal protection.

And they don't have to come here, they are already here in Alaska. Ask a FBI agent about where the large terrorist task forces are and how rapidly they have grown. Alaska is on that list. There have already been several arrests. Just media and local goverments don't like the attention. Not good for the tourists.

Posted by: alaskan1000 at January 19, 2006 8:01 PM

Can somebody please tell me why we use the term 'infidel' to describe ourselves. I know that the Mohammedans say that about us but do we have to use the same term. I do not have a Websters Dictionary to hand in the office, (and I'm too lazy at this time of night to walk through to the library and get one) but I do have a Collins, a Chambers and an Oxford and they all state that the term 'infidel' describes someone with no belief especially (but not solely) with reference to Christianity and islam. I doubt that Websters differs. I am not, therefore, an infidel. Surely, we should not accept their judgements of us.

Posted by: Certiorari at January 19, 2006 8:04 PM

obl has mistaken us for Spaniards, and has offered us a truce, under some yet-to-be-specified conditions. He included some codswallop about being 'forbidden by his religion to be deceitful and to lie'. (shouldn't that be COMMANDED by his religion to be deceitful?...whatever) Bush's response should be an eager acceptance, under any terms obl chooses, but ONLY under the condition that obl personally appear for the joint signing of the agreement.

It'd be the infidel's hudaibya.

Posted by: Infidel33 at January 19, 2006 8:08 PM

A few problems with the idea of attacking the Trans-Alaska Pipeline: First, given the size and location, you're not going to simply walk up to a site and attack. Alaska is simply huge, and just getting to a remote spot is a major undertaking. Secondly, any break automatically triggers a shutdown, so the loss of oil is relatively small, and controlled. Repairs can be made fairly quickly. Lastly, the local polar bears are trained, and have been taught that "Allah Ackbar" means "I volunteer to be your TV dinner".

Posted by: kenprice at January 19, 2006 8:25 PM

Lastly, the local polar bears are trained, and have been taught that "Allah Ackbar" means "I volunteer to be your TV dinner".

Posted by: kenprice at January 19, 2006 08:25 PM

ROTFL ROTFL

Gold Star for you today!!

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Posted by: Catherine at January 19, 2006 8:49 PM

Can somebody please tell me why we use the term 'infidel' to describe ourselves.

Classic sarcasm, in the tradition of appropriating an epithet as a badge of honor out of contempt for the source.

Posted by: Shinoliite at January 19, 2006 8:54 PM

It is fairly easy to spot a Muslim wandering in the snow. The Camel gives them away every time.

The Texican

Posted by: Texican at January 19, 2006 8:57 PM

Shinolite -

Of course. I should have spotted that. It's like my gay friends wanting to be called queer instead of gay. Sometimes I can be so slow. Thank-you.

Posted by: Certiorari at January 19, 2006 9:01 PM

Alaskan1000 is right. There is no way to guard the pipeline.

A few years ago, I asked an Anchorage FBI agent why the bureau had such a big presence in Alaska (a full square block building downtown in a city of 250K). He was coy in his reply, but of course he cited the pipeline. Presumably, they have to hope the investigative manpower in Anchorage will detect most attacks while they are still formative.

The military also regularly practices for various attack scenarios on Valdez, but again, all of these things are difficult to defend against, given the scope of the target.

The good news is, as others have speculated, that Alaskans are generally a heavily armed people--especially in those precincts where one might want to take a shot at the pipeline--and it isn't the easiest place for a group of jihadis to pass unnoticed. Anywhere outside of Anchorage, four arab men will stick out like, say, a 2006 Suburban in Bahgdad.

Posted by: chickaloon at January 19, 2006 9:10 PM

++quote++
Al Haganah said "al-Qaida has actually been talking about doing this for two years or more"

Thanks for the link. Not that you meant this, but I wouldn't discount the possibility because they have been talking about it for years and haven't done it yet.
++endquote++

Right. That's why I said:

**quote**
So they should be about ready to hit it...
***endquote***

All things in their 'proper' season, and we're probably about due.

Posted by: Al Haganah at January 19, 2006 9:11 PM

Web post urges jihadists to attack Alaska ..."

Think of the Caribou, oh please think of the Caribou!

Posted by: JadeDragoness at January 19, 2006 9:32 PM

It is fairly easy to spot a Muslim wandering in the snow. The Camel gives them away every time.

The Texican

Posted by: Texican at January 19, 2006 08:57 PM

ROTFL ROTFL

Gold Star for you today!

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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

Posted by: Catherine at January 19, 2006 9:34 PM

With all of the Muslim men in the USA
Going to target and other stores

Buying
Cell phones by the box full
Missing explosives from construction sites.
Middle eastern men seen with missle launchers.

Gee i dont see why americans shouldnt trust muslims....

Just because
a middle eastern man
With a box full to the brim with an oily substance
packing it into a car.
With a cellphone duct taped to it.
With wires sticking out.
Who gets a call from someone named osama in pakistan or iran..
Who then screams out allah akbar..
Who then proceeds to ram his car into a school
Which mysteriously explodes...

this does not mean that man was an islamic terrorist..

We will have to wait for the trial to determin that..

But if the alaskans see this or any true american...
I dont think we will wait for the ACLU and CAIR to give us the go ahead..

Posted by: jingoist at January 19, 2006 9:50 PM

That pipeline is sacred ground for the U.S. If they think they want to run the risk then let em have at it and they will pay a price they never imagined. The way I see things now, the Rop is running scared.

Posted by: fox1 at January 19, 2006 9:59 PM

JadeDragoness -

I am thinking of the caribou. Can you give oven temperature and roasting times.

Posted by: Certiorari at January 19, 2006 10:16 PM

O sure, a group with Middle East complexions roaming the back roads of Alaska looking for trouble. That my dear Islamo planner is a delusional pipe dream (ptp).
They stand about as much chance of success as I would have handing out Bibles in a Saudi Mosque.

Posted by: Thumper at January 19, 2006 10:25 PM

Someone can correct me on this if they think Im wrong.
An attack on our pipeline in Alaska would not be that serious as in relationship to its effect on our economy.
Firstly it is my understanding that much of that oil goes to Japan and the rest to California.
Secondly from what I have studied about it, 97% of the oil in those particular oilfieds is already pumped out. That is one reason why our Gov. is trying to open up other areas for drilling. We dont depend on the oil from Alaska as much as the Islamonuts think we do.
Thirdly enviromental damage would be limited and could be easily cleaned up.
If the Alaska pipeline is the Islamos next attack
it would probably be the worst choice for them and the best scenerio for us. As it would engender great amounts of rage from the public.
And hopefully it would cause a backlash on our Government to really get serious about cracking down on Islam within our borders and that touchy subject of border security.
Maybe an attack like that would shut the open border people up long enough to secure our borders. I hate to say it but an attack on our Alaskan pipeline would probably be the best thing that could happen to us at this stage of the war.

Posted by: frodnum at January 19, 2006 10:49 PM

Actually, the US is probably prepared for an attack on the Alaska pipeline more than any other critical installation. That's because the Alaska pipeline has already been a target of several attacks in the past.

Here are the facts.

The pipeline has been damaged on a number of occasions. It was built with earthquakes in mind and has survived several, such as a 7.9 magnitude event in 2002. It is vulnerable to intentional attack and potentially to forest fires.

The highest losses from the pipeline was in February 1978, when a deliberate explosion led to more than 16,000 barrels (2,500 m³) leaking out at Steele Creek, near Fairbanks. However, no one was charged. From 1977 to 1994 there were 30 to 40 spills a year on average, the worst years in terms of number of incidents were 1991 to 1994 when there were 164 spills, although none were major. Since 1995 the number of spills has been sharply reduced with total losses from 1997 to 2000 totalling only 6.89 barrels.

The steel pipe is resistant to gunshots, but on October 4, 2001, a drunken gunman named Daniel Carson Lewis shot a hole into a weld near Livengood, causing a spill of about 6,000 barrels or 285,600 gallons. Approximately two acres (1 hectare) of tundra were soiled and had to be removed in the cleanup. Repairs to the pipeline were made and the pipeline was restarted on October 7, 2001.

Posted by: Provoslavni at January 19, 2006 11:04 PM

Certiorari says: "Can somebody please tell me why we use the term 'infidel' to describe ourselves. I know that the Mohammedans say that about us but do we have to use the same term."

I agree. I have always opposed using THEIR term to describe ourselves. I won't deny Cert. Any good lawyer (or politician) knows you have to capture the nomenclature to be effective. It is an act of dhimmitude to use the term "infidel" to label or describe ourselves in any way.

Don't buy into the muslim culture, and then try to argue your way out. Oppose it from the get-go. Oppose the terms they choose to use to describe you. Oppose them everywhere, in everything, all the time.

It's a war, don't you know.

Posted by: texan at January 19, 2006 11:38 PM

"The b******s that are in that gang, they are in prison so the public think it's all over. Well it's not, because there's more of them. The police force and elected governors haven't done a damn thing about it. Their good book (the Koran) tells them that that's acceptable. If you doubt it, go and buy a copy and you will find verse after verse and you can take any woman you want as long as it's not Muslim women,"

"These 18, 19, and 25-year-old Asian Muslims are seducing and raping white girls in this town right now. It's part of their plan for conquering countries. It's how they do it,"

Posted by: shiva at January 19, 2006 11:43 PM

Certiorari

LOL

Posted by: JadeDragoness at January 19, 2006 11:48 PM

watch out for mooses in rut..America has surprises for ignatz jihadsters

Posted by: hammerhead at January 20, 2006 1:18 AM

I normally would avoid political bait, but looks like the jihadists who would damage the Alaska pipeline are in the same camp as the Sierra Club, Greenpeace, ELF and other left wing activists who oppose any expansion of US energy production, be it ANWR, nuclear, coal, wind (birds might fly into them, and they are ugly to look at) and hydro-electric (the poor fishies would perish).

If anything, this should be an impetus not only to drill in ANWR, but build a pipeline from Alaska to Idaho or Montana, as well as refineries in all 3 states. Also a nuclear reactor there, with spent Pu-239 being reprocessed for weapons - we need to stock up on them, just in case retaliation is needed.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 20, 2006 1:26 AM

A tip for the Eskimohammedeans....Eat all the yellow snow that you stumble upon....it's really really good for you.
--DCWatson

Call us neither Eskimo nor Mohammedean.

We are Inuit Muslims, and our numbers reach nearly 350,000. We live in the far north of Alaska, Canada, and Greenland, in a place we call Ammituq Avedlek.

Do not mock us, kufr. I have slain great polar bear in Jihad. Our chattering lips shall not be silent much longer.

Posted by: Nanuck Al-Fahrozen at January 20, 2006 2:07 AM

one shot spills 300,000 gals. of crude? time for predator drone patrols..

http://alaskaforum.org/currentnews1.html

Posted by: hammerhead at January 20, 2006 2:10 AM

Hammerhead:

I haven't heard anyone use "ignatz" as an adjective since my zaida died.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at January 20, 2006 7:56 AM

Attack on the pipeline? WOW! Let's get PETA,ELF and all those environmental activists on board!! (LOL). Doesn't the general public know that this would upset the caribou, disturb the spotted owl and turn the Alaskan striped,spotted titmouse into an obsessive-compulsive neurotic?

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer at January 20, 2006 10:48 AM

If the Alaska pipe line was ruptured by Jihadists can you imagine the black oil on white snow video on TV? This would really drive the American people nuts

Posted by: dennisw at January 20, 2006 11:09 AM

dennisw

MSM: Bush's ME policies cause environmental catastrophy!

American People: Let's impeach George Bush!!

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer at January 20, 2006 11:47 AM

I agree. I have always opposed using THEIR term to describe ourselves. I won't deny Cert. Any good lawyer (or politician) knows you have to capture the nomenclature to be effective. It is an act of dhimmitude to use the term "infidel" to label or describe ourselves in any way. Posted by: texan

texan

I disagree that we have to capture the language in order to win this one. For one, the audience here isn't the Mohammedans, it's us. If we at JW/DW were to create our own terminology, the rest of the world would be at a loss to know what we are saying, and our opponents amongst the Dhimmis would be free to use their terminology to describe us. But by re-cycling the terminology that the Mohammedans use, we are, to an extent, being self-deprecating, but more importantly, we are using terms that at least one side in this campaign uses.

Another thing - it's easier to understand them once one uses their terminology, and then, it's easier to confront them as a result. Therefore, it's not an act of Dhimmitude to describe ourselves as infidels. On the other hand, it would be insulting to describe us as the faithful, since we have no faith towards this evil death cult that wants to eviscerate all who aren't its members.

Don't buy into the muslim culture, and then try to argue your way out. Oppose it from the get-go. Oppose the terms they choose to use to describe you. Oppose them everywhere, in everything, all the time.

We aren't trying to argue our way out - I for one wear the label 'infidel' with pride. Accepting that isn't buying into their culture. What would be buying into their culture would be repeating the kalima, facing Mecca 5 times a day, acknowledging Mohammed as anything but a bloodthirsty pedophile and joining in the cry for Jihad. Other than a handful of posters, everyone I see here seems to be doing exactly what you advocate above.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 21, 2006 4:44 AM