I can just imagine the conversation. Ahmadinejad would have termed efforts to be a good start, but fell short on "production".

Oddly, SimplyJews relays in today's entry (Jan. 20) news from the Guardian of Hamas paying $180,000US to a spin doctor to improve the group's image.

http://simplyjews.blogspot.com/

SJ notes that the "Elders" could have given them better advice for less.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at January 20, 2006 11:51 AM

Now that terrorism has come out of the closet and is ok, even a hip enough thing to win Oscars and praise on TV talk shows, isn't it time that we openly discuss selling Israel out?

MOHAMMEDAN MORALS MOHAMMEDAN ETHICS MOHAMMEDAN HISTORICITY

I mean, that's what the Leftists are thinking. In their willful blindness, in their hopeful naivete, in their fake history, in the dastisticks of their Marxist arithmetic... they actually think that everything will cool out and be ok after Israel is destroyed.

If we can't admit to ourselves what we think about Islam, can't we at least admit the solution that we're inching towards? Can't we look our sacrificial lamb square in the eye and wish it a fare thee well?

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 20, 2006 11:55 AM

Iran and Syria: The Axis of Terror has the rundown on the Defense Minister implicating Iran and Syria as the two of them get cozy in Damascus.

Posted by: ajveros at January 20, 2006 12:06 PM

Establishing their bona bides, Alawites and Shi'a both, before an Islamic world that regards Alawites as quasi-Muslims (that syncretism, that worship of Miriam), and Shi'a as inferior, not-quite-halal Muslims, or for some (Zarqawi et al.), regarded as unspeakable Infidels, "Rafidite dogs." Best way to establish them -- curse, rant, bomb, the "Zionist entity." Or at least, the only way they can think of.

Posted by: Hugh at January 20, 2006 12:13 PM

Constantinople;

Exactly.

Just our luck that all the Predators were due for an oil change.

Damn the luck!

Posted by: t-ham at January 20, 2006 1:08 PM

"Best way to establish [their bona bides is to] curse, rant, bomb, the "Zionist entity." "

It serves another purpose too -- Muslims know that the day they run out of victims and scapegoats they must turn on each other, and then the wholesale murder will really begin in earnest...

The only people Muslims hate more than each other, is everybody else... But what happens when "everybody else" is gone? The final darkness will descend -- on some level every Muslims must know this truism...

This too is where Nazism would have taken the world if it had been permitted to survive -- The mechanism which allowed such disparate entities to unite against them was a realization that the Aryan notion of "purification" ultimately had no limits... So too in Islam - the virulent puritanism of its various strains know no bounds... While Jews and "infidels" remain, they can postpone the ultimate battle for who best represents Allah's will on earth...

Posted by: jsla at January 20, 2006 1:20 PM

More evidence (yet again) proving beyond the shadow of a doubt that these people will continue to view themselves as 'oppressed' until they have savagely murdered the last of the world's non-Muslim people to a man.

It appears to me that they're playing al-lah's favorite tune over and over: '5 Billion People Screaming While the Planet Goes Dark, Ya Ya Ya Ya!'

We can't permit them to finish this number...

Posted by: pythagoras at January 20, 2006 1:36 PM

To faqi

I don't agree that the only good muslim is a dead one. I know some good muslims myself.

The gentleman from whom I buy my newspaper in the morning is not a 'savage', and my views on islam don't make him one.

I find islam morally indefensible, and agree with those who say that, while there are moderate muslims, islam itself is not moderate. Not all religious people follow or even believe every tenet of their own faith - surely you can recognise that? I for example am one of many millions of Catholics who happily ignore many of the church's social and sexual teachings, believing them to be in error, but valuing my faith nonetheless.

I keep coming to this site to read informative articles and comment on them, only to be confronted again and again by genocidal sentiments expressed under the flag of liberty or democracy. If people here really want to use this as a forum to advocate the killing of all muslims, then, obviously, no-one with a brain will listen to anything Robert has to say.

WE DON'T PROVE OUR MORAL SUPERIORITY TO THE JIHADISTS BY USING EXACTLY THE SAME KIND OF THOUGHT PROCESSES AND LANGUAGE THAT THEY USE.

You bring this site down into the gutter and you should try thinking before opening your mouth.

Posted by: religion_of_peas at January 20, 2006 2:49 PM

Of what conceivable appeal, of what conceivable helpfulness or use, are such remarks as those taken issue with, justifiably, by the poster immediately above?

Posted by: Hugh at January 20, 2006 3:32 PM

Breaking story people, The United Nations have a United Nations Gun Ban Treaty working it's way through as we speak!!! The details are found on the National Rifle Association website, www.nra.org. Get this, the UN is using U.S. taxpayer moneies to develop and promote this treaty!!!
Just what we need, Iran telling us what "We the People"can and cannot own within our homes, within our borders!!! We are the United States, We're Americans, with a capitol "A". We're a free and soveriegn country. "Nuts to the UN!!!" Please contact the NRA, I have, and I'm pledging my membership!!! I'd suggest you do the same!!!
"May the Wings of Liberty Never lose a Feather!!!"

Posted by: Ironman Hondo at January 20, 2006 4:28 PM

Hugh and religion_of_peas:

I have taken simply to drawing noxious posts directly to Spencer's attention for deletion. By noxious posts, I mean any that indiscrinately threaten entire nations, venerated sites or denegrate people based on gender, ethnicity or assumed sexual preferences. Some posters need a bit of educating that their post has gone over the line and is of a nature that is unwelcome here; others -- repeat offenders who just don't get it or don't want to get it -- have been banned outright.

It's the duty of every blogger here who supports the work that Spencer is doing to help keep this site clean of hatred. Deleting offensive posts is annoying, but a lot easier to do than defending one's reputation by denying responsibility for allowing offensive and inciting rants.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at January 20, 2006 8:57 PM

Waterdragon52: By noxious posts, I mean any that indiscrinately threaten entire nations, venerated sites or denegrate people based on gender, ethnicity or assumed sexual preferences.

Waterdragon52

Why are venerated sites off limits? If one advocates bombing the Ka'aba in retaliation for an attack, or Mohammed's tomb in Medina, or the Mahdi well in Qum, how is that in any way similar to a call for an endlosung of the Muslims? If one were to advocate demolishing the al-Aqsa mosque and building the next temple on the site, how is that an incendiary opinion (other than the fact that it could infuriate Muslims, which never takes much anyway)

Particularly when Muslims are so pathetic when it comes to respecting the religious shrines of others. Does anyone with half a brain think that if St Peters in Rome, or Michaelangelo's chappel, or Canterbury Cathedral, instead of being located in Europe, had been located in the Mid-East, they would have been left intact? Why this kid-gloves ban on any 'posts that threaten venerated sites' (whatever that means, since I doubt anyone posting here is going to influence a bombing raid on Medina).

Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 21, 2006 1:36 AM

Ironman, the UN has been working on this for decades, as well as many other shocking and intrusive policies and programs, many of which have been quietly, unobtrusively implemented right under our noses. Do you have any idea how much of our national sovereignty has been tossed out the window since George Bush took office? I voted for him, I trusted him, and I was actually shocked when I learned that he is an advocate and supporter of a stateless, one-world system of government, but he is. Like father, like son. Are you familiar with "sustainable development?" Did you know that in four years, there will be no borders between the U.S., Mexico, and Canada? If every Mexican in Mexico decides to come to the U.S., it will be perfectly legal. The next phase of this plan will incorporate the entire Western hemisphere, creating a giant entity similar to the E. U. The "trade agreements" of recent years were merely precursors to merging North and South America.

The proletariat must be disarmed to prevent revolts against the tyrants. The anti-American, socialist elites in the U.N. have been working for decades to destroy the U.S. and it appears that most of our elected leaders have been complicit. The CFR and the U.N. have worked long and hard to create a socialist utopia and they can't succeed until they destroy the U.S. You won't believe what they have planned for us, and it won't be on a referendum for the voters to approve.

Posted by: Susanp at January 21, 2006 2:00 AM

Rather off the central topic but.............................................

Brisbane gave over a disused church to be used as a mosque.........................

You want blasphemy......thats blasphemy

Posted by: marilyn at January 21, 2006 8:45 PM

Susan P; This is a scary situation we're in. I'm not aware of "sustainable development", but I'm savy enough to know "where there's smoke, there's a fire!!" I voted for George Bush as well. Some of the decisions that he has made are very questionable. That is why I trust in the moral resolution of "We the People!!!" We have the right to express our disapproval of how the "our government" is selling us down the Hudson!
And this also explains why "Our President" won't back the minuteman project to protect our borders from the invaders from Mexico. But yet we have law abiding Americans comitted to the safty of our borders!!! Nuts to the CFR and the UN!!! As I've said before, the President, dosen't make this country, WE DO!!! Trust me, I more than know what they have instore for the lovers of freedom around the world, let alone this country. Our job as freedom lovers is to make them suffer while trying to impliement their villianous agenda. Use the weapons that we have to repell any or all attempts to take away our Constitutional rights as US citizens. If our politicans back this movement of the UN, then we will repond at the ballot box. If they refuse to leave office, then we must convince them, at gunpoint, to do so.
This is the true purpose of the 2nd Amendment. That's why the Founding Father's put it in the Bill of Rights. A precaution against a tyranical government!!! That's why the Utopians and the leftist want the 2nd Amendment taken out of the Constitution!!! It's not meant to protect hunters and sportmen, It's meant to protect "We the People" from an imperialistic government!!! Utopia, if you will. Hitler knew this, Joseph Stalin knew this, Mao knew this, Ho Che Minh knew this, the leftists know this, and the fromer "rapist in chief" William Jefferson Blythe Clinton knew this.
If "Our President won't fight to keep not only our borders, but our soveriegnty, then fine. This is his last term in office. Unless he pulls a Lord Palpatine/Tyranus number on us. That is why anyone serious about keeping this country the "Land of the Free" must consider joining a guns rights group to help maintain our "Right to bear arms". The Founding Father's have given us reminders that we are our own defenders. The government is not a guarantee against tyrany!!! It's "We the People!!!" It's up to people like us to warn the masses. If they don't listen then, they become unfortunate victims of the Utopia. I gave four years of my life defending this land and "Our Constitution". I won't give it all up without a fight!!!

Posted by: Ironman Hondo at January 23, 2006 9:49 AM