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January 22, 2006

Hamas is a green tide rising

From the Toronto Star:

RAMALLAH, West Bank- If the plan was simply to wet its toes in the churning waters of Palestinian democracy, Hamas must brace for a shock. Ready or not, the militant Islamic group now finds itself plunging head first into the deep end.

Quite possibly, it will form the government.

According to a succession of startling public opinion polls, the race for Wednesday's first truly competitive election the Palestinians have ever known is now a coin toss, with a surging Hamas in a statistical dead heat with the fragmented and corruption-riddled Fatah party founded by the late Yasser Arafat.

The most sobering numbers came Friday, in a survey of 1001 voters in the West Bank and Gaza Strip by the Jerusalem Media and Communications Centre, showing support for Fatah sliding to 32.3 per cent, with Hamas at 30.2 per cent. The balance of the electorate was either undecided or siding in small numbers with nine other fledgling Palestinian parties.

Any way it breaks down, Palestinians are about to open their 132-seat legislature for the first time to the hard fist of political Islam.

"It is an incredible turn of events," says Nader Izzat Said, a political analyst at Ramallah's Birzeit University.

"Running for the first time, Hamas did not even ponder such an outcome. They wanted to do well, but not this well.

"Their idea was to sit in opposition, where Hamas can play the role of God-given saints that do no wrong. But the momentum is now carrying them beyond, and it is driven by impossibly high expectations. They will have to ask themselves how they can possibly deliver."...

Yes, I suppose the populace will want to see Israel destroyed the day after the election. What's a terrorist to do? So much destruction, so little time....

Posted by Rebecca at January 22, 2006 5:16 PM
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Islam must reform itself or be destroyed.

Not too many options between the West and this retrograde ideology.

The gun must be kept pointed and cocked.

Posted by: dgene [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 5:41 PM

Let the Infidel governments take the pledge: No More Jizyah. Whether the Hamas horse is win, place, or show, no one should place any bets on it, or for that matter, on any other horse with the sinister "Palestinian" colors, and whether or not the jockey is the mild-mannered accomplice in murder, mayhem, and corruption, Mahmoud Abbas, or someone else -- anyone else. They are all the same, in their mental makeup, in their ultimate goals. They differ only on whether or not they are willing to divert foreign aid meant for every "Palsetinian" to their own apartments in Paris or Cannes or Beirut or London or the Costa Brava or the Costa Smeralda, and how much they are willing to take for themselves (goodness, tuition for little Palestina, or young Jihad, or practically-grown up Hazmat, in those American universities that we are so delighted to be able to send them to --America is going to be their future, after all, isn't it? is high, so we need to take more. A well-educated "Palestinian" elite is a useful "Palestinian" elite. As for those farmers, and the other rabble -- let their children become suicide-bombers. Now that's a way to earn a living, when you don't have your GDE.

No money to the "Palestinians." Let them go hat in hand to Riyadh or to the U.A.E., Kuwait, wherever. Let them ask for a few billion. They'll get some. Just not what they expect. And they won't like it. They will start to resent those rich Arabs with their gold-plated planes, season-tickets to the best brothels in Europe, and Most Valued Customer Awards from the casinosthat broke their local Arab piggy-banks at Monte-Carlo.

End the Infidel jizya, and then those "Palestinians," Hamasified or otherwise, will have to go hat in hand to the dishdasha-and-dagger tycoons of the Gulf, whom those "Palestinians" (a little higher up the phylogenetic scale, arabically speaking, given the mission civilisatrice that the Israelis knowingly performed on the local Arabs, than those rich Gulf Arabs)) they envy, and despise as the apotheosis of the parvenu.

And as the degrees of rank, according to the quasi-eduated "Palestinians" see them, go unobserved and mere possession of money calls the tune (not unlike, by the way, the situation here), then -- Hark, what discord follows!

Music to some ears.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 5:45 PM

I bought Elie Wiesel's new book today at Costco, "Night".

It is a short book, 114 pages, everyone should read it to understand what we are dealing with. Elie was one of the survivors of Buchwald and Auschwitz, it is beyond terrifying. The Gestapo throw the children alive into the furnace, they toss them into the air and shoot them with machine guns. And, of course, the Iranians, who should have nuclear weapons in 60 days or less, deny the holocaust even happened. The Jews never thought it would happen, and then they found themselves locked in the cattle cars headed for the furnace. This is the mind set of those that would deny the holocaust, imagine the Germans with Nuclear weapons, now multiply that horror by 1000 = Iran. We must not be like the Jews and listen to their lies.

Posted by: tsweeney [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 5:54 PM

Hark, what discord follows!

Music to some ears.


...like Anton Webern.

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 5:54 PM

...like Anton Webern...."
-- from a posting above

To avoid aural discord, I'm listening to a tape of John Cage right now. You know that piece, the one for which he played the first note ten years ago, and a few more years still have to go by before the second note is played? Well, that's the one I mean. It's very soothing. Robert Spencer sold me a bootleg tape of it, for only $19.95, and promised that when the second note is revealed, I can mail back the tape. He will simply record that second note, then return it to me -- at No Additional Cost.

Why, you may ask, the bargain price in the first place? Well, Robert explained that he wanted to do this because I'm a "close friend" and added that he "wouldn't do it for just anyone."

And some posters still think they can drive a wedge between us. Boy, do they have another think coming.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 6:14 PM

Just send me a blank cd and I'll send you back the 60-minute, extended version of Cage's "4:33."

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 6:17 PM

Hey, did you study with Nadia Boulanger too?

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 6:18 PM

No, but I'm six degrees from Heinrich Schenker.

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 6:26 PM

Well, I tell you I had a lengthy dark post to submit and after I hit preview I see you guys are getting all light hearted, so I think I'll leave it to stray into the ether where the internet fairies live and let it worry them instead.

Posted by: Rebecca JW [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 6:34 PM

Ether? Who's got ether!

Seriously, don't let my penchant for silliness (very haram) get in the way. I'd feel bad. A bit of banter does my heart good, being off at grad school 1100 miles away from my nearest relatives.

I was about to note, in a more serious vein, that my being 1.) female, 2.) a musician, and 3.) inherently silly is triple motivation to keep the jihadists from winning.

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 6:41 PM

Shinolite, what are you studying?

Posted by: Rebecca JW [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 6:45 PM

A very good program on the History Channel right now detailing how Hitler was no Christian but a pagan who dreamed of a post-Christian world.

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 6:48 PM

Performance-related studies this time-- but instrument and program are very school-specific (and male-dominated-- delightfully haram), and I don't want to be awakened some morning by someone in a thobe and smagh ululating on my doorstep. Already have a master's in music theory.

A regime such as that which Hamas would institute would have no use for me. Nor I for them. ;)

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 7:01 PM

What's your instrument?

Posted by: Rebecca JW [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 7:07 PM

Guitar, classical and jazz. It's a "no 'Stairway to Heaven'" zone!

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 7:12 PM

I love music all sorts of it and love to sing. IF someone ever told me "We're going to take away your music." My reply would be a sweetly drawled "Ovah your dead body."

What a world..... terrorists and madmen in control of govenments, pig ignorant non creative garbage claiming allah is god and since they serve him they are superior. IF all muslims had to be on anti-psychotics it'd be a drug firm's wet dream.

Personally, I'd rather just feed a bunch of them a BIG dose of LSD and see if it made any difference.

Posted by: fireangel [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 7:21 PM

I don't want to be awakened some morning by someone in a thobe and smagh ululating on my doorstep.

Ululating is the least of it. Doorsteps are the cornerstone of respectablity. You never do "it" - anything at all - on your own doorstep, and make sure that nobody else does anything untoward on it.

I'm from Lancashire, which is in the top left bit of England. Traditionally, a Lancashire woman's honour, which marked her and her family out as "deserving poor" or "respectable working class" resided in the cleanliness of her doorstep. One of my grandmothers, but not the other, used to donkey stone her doorstep:

The "rubbing" ritual was part of the lives of the housewives of old, in the Bolton district as much as anywhere. Like putting hair in curlers, cleaning out the rarely used front parlour once a week, sending the old man off to work with a sticky mix of tea, sugar, and condensed milk in the bottom of his brew can.

You see - the shame/honour culture at work here. No honour killings, though, just a bit of scrubbing. (But, confusingly, not being a scrubber.)

my being 1.) female, 2.) a musician, and 3.) inherently silly is triple motivation to keep the jihadists from winning

Too right. Keep making music and being silly.

Posted by: Interested [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 7:31 PM

Fireangel-- A lot of Hamas, among others, have got to be smoking crack already...

Whatever mischief a Hamas win may cause in the short term, letting it happen may be better for the region in the long run. The West will have to show some backbone and decide whether they trust Hamas to keep the gov't treasury separate from their terror budget-- perhaps a little less jizya aid for the PA to work with.

And with candidates like Umm Nidal, the Hamas government should collapse under the weight of its own incompetence quickly and spectacularly. I mean, at least the Fatah bunch are professional corrupt politicians. ;) Let the world see what happens when the inmates-- the ones in the Hannibal Lecter department-- take over the asylum.

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 7:33 PM

Fireangel, somehow I don't see the government giving you a grant for that particular experiment, but perhaps you could gather private funds...volunteers probably wouldn't be hard to come by. Keep us posted on that. Inquiring minds want to know. Would LSD make a difference?

It was used for years among the Hollywood crowd, Cary Grant among them, as a kind of chemical instant psychoanalysis. Said they made years worth of progress overnight.

Posted by: Rebecca JW [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 7:35 PM

I tried LSD a couple of times back in the early 70s and all it did was make me laugh. However, an interesting mental image comes to mind..... would be suicide bombers are all suited up with their nasty little belts. They have just smoked pot and dropped acid. Giggling they pull their bomb cords......

Actually I tried all sorts of drugs in the 70s and none of them did what they were supposed to do. LSD made me giggle rather than see weird shit, pot made my usually crappy memory better, speed and coke put me to sleep. It was all very disappointing.

I suppose it'd be rather *cough* disconcerting if someone was given LSD without knowing it. Especially if they saw weird shit. hmmmm Do you suppose LSD could explain Iran's thug monkey prez?

Posted by: fireangel [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 7:51 PM

Would LSD make a difference?

Jerry Garcia would be named Allah's "other" messenger, and "Truckin'" would be added as a sura to the Koran.

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 7:53 PM

fireangel: "Do you suppose LSD could explain Iran's thug monkey prez?"

Not sure about LSD or the president BUT:

"The UN survey ranks the Islamic Republic number one at international level for the number of drug addicts in relation to the population, followed at some distance by Kyrgyzstan and Mauritania.

The use of drugs, both opium-based and synthetic substances, has grown significantly among young Iranians. Drug addiction, according to newspapers in Iran, is the main problem among Iranian families.

"In the Islamic Republic a dose of heroin costs less than a sandwich, and has the advantage of making you forget the society you are living in," one young drug addict told Adnkronos International (AKI). "Many young people like me only manage to support this regime and the restrictions imposed by the mullahs by taking heroin," he said.""

http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Trends&loid=8.0.213872579&par=0

AND:

"Consumption of narcotic drugs among the Iranian educated persons is mind blowing. You can hardly find a physician of any kind or an engineer in Iran that do not use narcotic drugs. They only use more expensive types of drugs or pay more for the same level of the narcotics.

Consuming narcotic drugs has turned into the main type of recreation for many Iranian professional and educated people in Iran. I am sure the sense of being frustrated in the Islamic-Arabic regime of Iran has a great role to play in pushing these types of the Iranians towards the narcotic drugs."

http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_12156.shtml

So much for the idea that Islam is any kind of solution for whatever it is that drives widespread drug use in the west...

Posted by: Caroline [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 8:16 PM

Caroline, that's amazing. They just take heavy duty pain killers to kill the pain of living in Iran. This is the problem - all the moderate Muslims (meaning those not presently actively psychotic, even if somewhat sociopathic) are all in pain and denial. That's what heroin is for; pain, and pain can be psychic as well as corporeal.

Posted by: Rebecca JW [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 8:41 PM

OT

Swiss Bank UBS Halts Iran, Syria Business

http://www.forbes.com/business/commerce/feeds/ap/2006/01/22/ap2467078.html

Iran blasts 'shameful' Chirac nuclear warning

http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds/afx/2006/01/22/afx2466863.html

Both via UP Pompeii

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 8:53 PM

"...a green tide" like a sea of grass, and like grass they will be mowed down.....

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 8:59 PM

Shinoliite,
"... that my being 1.) female, 2.) a musician, and 3.) inherently silly ..." Add 4.) educated, 5.) independent

As a coincidence, I am self-teaching classical guitar. I am having a surprisingly difficult time finding a teacher in the ex-pat community here in Saudi Arabia.

As for Hamas, it looks like a case of "Be very careful what you wish for".


Posted by: jay [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 9:17 PM

"...a green tide" like a sea of grass, and like grass they will be mowed down.....

Following in the footsteps (or tire tracks) of that great Crusader, John Deere.

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 9:19 PM

"Green Tide rising"???? Don't you mean vomit, chunder , spew, regurgitate, throw up etc?

Posted by: Zathras [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 9:49 PM

Hamas or Fatah? Does it really matter? The killing of the innocent will continue.

Green tide? More like a red tide!

Posted by: Piglet [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2006 10:30 PM

Give em drugs...There's lsd and there's LSD. And whats wrong with making muslims laugh? Some sillypsybin might just do the trick. They will think they are under attack by Iblis. It's hard to conduct jihad when you are laughing so hard your chest hurts. All muslims should crack up. Oh what fun that would be. Can you imagine Hamza cracking up? Or Ibrahim Hooper...what about the Iranian prez Abercanabar, or whatever his name is, wouldn't you like to see him crack up? Every muslim should be forced to watch "2001 a Space Odyssey", on acid. I did that and I have never been the same since. If it did all that for me, think what it would do for a muslim. After I got out of jail and rehab, I left the monastery and took up a life of debauchery. If a little acid or psyllypsybin can make muslims laugh and debauch more, and jihad less, the world will be a better place,
I'm all for it.

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 12:01 AM

crush islam while it is weak..or live in fear when it becomes nuke strong..

Posted by: hammerhead [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 12:41 AM

duh swami..i am an experienced psyilocybin and other substance researcher.. problem with psychotomimetic substances is that the user inculcates his dominant paradigm into the experience..result can be unpredictable...i.e.
user may just as well become nutty jihadi as not..

Posted by: hammerhead [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 12:47 AM

milieu..determines the experience

Posted by: hammerhead [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 1:04 AM

Do not be distracted from the objective - the complete defeat of this evil ideology. The multiplicity of islamic groups names are only a distraction. They all have the same goal - to make the world Islam. Each group is a military unit either promoting propaganda or terror making. Is it any more complicated than that?

Posted by: Piglet [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 1:13 AM

Somebody has to say it:

"Soylent Green is Hamas!"

Good tasting, and good for you. Eat up, kids!

Posted by: give me doughnuts [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 1:20 AM

Hamas is the sad, but inevitable outgrowth(development) of Islam today. The radicalization continues at breakneck speed. For as pathetic(and evil)as Mubarak or name your favorite Arab despot, remember, evil comes in different sizes. I, for one, believe, that democracy(self imposed or imposed from without)means that the true expression of what the people will want will only hasten the natural development of the radicalization of Islamic society.

How can this be? It is easy to turn within at failure. It is easy to blame the secular sock puppets(us) or the Israel(Jews) or colonialist devouring of 'arab lands.' in the past or US manipulation of the oil price or dastardly despots who rule(Saudi), but it is painful to look within. Or, when you look within, you see a religion that hasn't been followed, hasn't been loved enough.

Hamas and the death cult that loves suicide bombings(opereations) and honor killings is the real expression of the Islamic psyche. Pure, unadulterated . . . the real thing.

It may be depressing to admit that we are entering a real clash of civilizations. It's easy to play pretend isn't it. Democracy. The religion of peace. Let the people decide. But it's here and will intensify.

What can be done. The first step is to admit it. Name names. Who is our enemy and why. Not race, not a different people but an ideology that worships death. Like an guy addicted to booze . . . the first step is to admit there is a problem . . . and give it a name . . . not to say Islam means peace.

Posted by: biorabbi [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 2:06 AM

This middle aged housewife can't keep up with these middle of the night discussions. Sounds like you had fun.
Shinoliite. I said once before that whenever I see you I start humming the riff to Philadelphia Freedom. With a classical jazz background I take it that's a definite no no for the derevation of your nickname?
I listen to rock and folk mainly, (Brit heavy metal much of the time). I'm learning piano accordion and play nursery rhymes to the children but my teacher says I need an adult reportoire.

Interested, I think the derogarory term "scrubber" came from the women who did the preliminary heavy cleaning in works laundries. Even when I had a student holiday job in a local domestic laundry in 1975 they were noticeably "tougher" than the women in the drying and finishing rooms.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 3:07 AM

OT: more ridiculous dhimmitude in London.


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http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article340399.ece

Europe's biggest exhibition of modern-day Islam will take place in London a year after the 7 July bombings in an effort to depict the religion in a positive light.

The Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, is set to launch the event which hopes to "combat the myths, misconceptions and misunderstandings of Islam".

IslamExpo will consist of a series of exhibitions on Islam's cultural heritage, lectures, debates, films, stand-up comedy and workshops at Alexandra Palace.

Organisers plan to invite survivors of the Tube attacks to attend with a special commemoration on the day.

Posted by: archduke [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 5:43 AM

posted above :

"I, for one, believe, that democracy(self imposed or imposed from without)means that the true expression of what the people will want will only hasten the natural development of the radicalization of Islamic society."

I agree.
At any rate it gives the rest of the world a chance to see what Islamic society really wants.
Enough rope and all that, maybe.


Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 7:02 AM

IslamExpo?

Islam Exposed, with a bit of luck and some judicious picketing.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 9:48 AM

Granny-- yeah, I was going for an obscure reference (love those) in my nickname, fueled by the fact that everytime I see "Shiite" out of the corner of my eye, I think I'm seeing something else. I suspect this is why it's been changed to "Shia" in the mainstream media, as well. ;)

Back in 1990, when Saddam first invaded Kuwait, there were a bunch of superb anti-Saddam satire tunes on the radio, including a "country & western"-style one that said "You don't know Shiite from Shinola."

Now, this is the sort of thing we can almost trust Wikipedia for:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinola

So, it ain't Shiite. It's Shinoliite. Ulululululu!

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 10:47 AM

archduke,

Thanks for that link.

For these Islamists and their useful idiot helpers to organize such an event, on the very day of July 7, is a terrible insult to the victims of that attack.

This Islamist propaganda should not be allowed to go ahead unchecked. Brits should organize a counter-demonstration. Try to enlist the help of the victims' families and friends. Educate them about what Islam is all about. Show them what's actually in the Koran and what the words actually meant as Mohammad intended them.

I fully expect that two of the major propaganda weapons they'll be using are the "for anyone who kills a man, it is as though he killed all mankind" (cut from 5:32) and "there is no compulsion in religion" (cut from 2:256). These quotes are pure BS. I expose both of these Islamist propaganda weapons at these links.

http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/guestessays/islam_compulsion.html

http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/guestessays/islam_peace.html

Posted by: Archimedes [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 11:05 AM

If you had tried the same association in the UK you would be juggling with brand names Kiwi and Cherry Blossom.

All I have to do now is break the association with one of Elton John's lesser moments and stop the irritation of
"Shine a light won't you shine a light
Philadelphia freedom I love you, yes I do"

And Stairway to Heaven is out so far as you are concerned,which is a shame, I have a few friends who each do a mean version.

Just the thing, Planet Rock is playing Sweet Home Alabama as I write! Is that any better?

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 11:13 AM

This kind of 'Green Tide' was previously seen issuing from Linda Blair's mouth in the EXORCIST.

With similar results.

Maybe we should ring the Middle East with exorcists. (Or is that Exocets?)

It couldn't hurt.

"By the power of the Light of Nature we cast thee out, o' purulent Pedophile Prophet!"

(Shake a fleck of Zam-zam water in the general direction of the problem, and repeat the formula until the people of Islam awaken and dismantle the Koranic mullah-archy then turn the Ka'aba in Mecca into a midget go-cart track.)

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 2:01 PM

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3205055,00.html

Carter: Elections can change Hamas

(VIDEO) Former American President Jimmy Carter says Palestinian elections can help transform Hamas to non-violent group, adds third-party mediation in region needed

(VIDEO) Former American President Jimmy Carter, who is currently staying in the region as head of the team supervising over the Palestinian Authority elections, said Monday he hopes that the Palestinian vote will help moderate Hamas' positions.

The 81-year old Carter, who served as president of the United States when Israel signed its peace agreement with Egypt, was the guest of honor of Monday's seat at the Herzliya Conference on the Balance of Israel's National Security.

Carter speaks. Hopes for peace (Video: Yaron Brenner)

In his speech, Carter said he supports President George W. Bush's Road Map peace initiative, as well as the principles of the Geneva Accord, which advocate recognition of Israel by the Arab states, an independent Palestinian state with territorial continuity, a "harmonious" division of Jerusalem and a resettlement of the Palestinians within their borders.

Carter also stated he believes American mediation will be needed for future negotiations between the two sides.

"History has proven that Israelis and Palestinians, even when they are ready to negotiate directly, will need a credible third party to help guide through the process," Carter said.

"Here the role of the United States, and in particular the full support of the president of the United States, must not be underestimated," he added.

'Hamas can change'

The former president said that later on Monday he plans to meet with PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, whom he said he believes to be "a person of integrity."

I hope for the Palestinian elections will be peaceful, Carter said, as well as "a demonstration of the commitment of most Palestinians to democracy."

"That would be the result of Hamas' candidates being successful in gaining seats within the Palestinian Authority. My hope is that this will moderate their position and lead to their transformation to a non-violent organization," Carter said.

Carter also said that following elections he would like to see the Palestinian and Israeli security forces join forces in a bid to stop terrorist activity still rampant within the PA.

"That's my hope and my dream," Carter said.

Referring to the problem of terror, Carter blasted the suicide bombers phenomenon, as well as the settlement project in the West Bank, which according to him was against the law and constituted an obstacle to peace.

The former president also stated that while the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza was an important turning point, further unilateral disengagements may prevent significant progress in peace negotiations.

(01.23.06, 13:19)

Posted by: Ben-Hur [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 2:08 PM

I never knew exactly what effect growing peanuts had on Carter, but clearly it gave him a brain to match.

I'm surprised he didn't compare Hamas to the Founding Fathers. (Didn't Madison and Jefferson want the extermination of the Jews, too?)

Where, oh where are the suicide bombers when Carter's convoy is careening through the West Bank?

But of course, they wouldn't harm their best lapdog.

Carter could run through Gaza wrapped in porkchops waving an Israeli flag and the "Palestinians" would only smile benignly.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 2:39 PM

"Islam must reform itself or be destroyed.
...
The gun must be kept pointed and cocked."

""...a green tide" like a sea of grass, and like grass they will be mowed down....."

"crush islam while it is weak.."


Amazing. At least you people are consistant in your blind predjudice.

Posted by: Kazuya [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 4:37 PM

kazuya --
That Islam and terrorism are interlinked is indisputable. At this site, we merely believe that not only are islam and terror CORRELATED - but we believe in causality - ISLAM IS THE ROOT CAUSE OF TERROR. No doubt you are a well-educated liberal, feeling comfortable in your intellectual superiority. However, we are well-educated, well-researched and always ready to show how the koran and mohammed are violent and provide the impetus for Islamic terror that threatens so much of the world today.
World war 3 = Islam vs everyone else. It's worth fighting.
Remember the Towers!!!

Posted by: templar [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 5:50 PM

Kazuya, if the devil were to craft a religion, what would it look like?

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 6:00 PM

Archduke:

Are you sure about the name of the event?

I believe an Islamic Exposition is called an "Explo".

Posted by: texan [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 6:21 PM

Kazuya, if the devil were to craft a religion, what would it look like? - Posted by Carolyn2

Carolyn: Leave it to me to answer a rhetorical question, but this site has a pretty through summary of how to fabricate your own religion and gain legions of followers. Every item applies beautifully (and hilariously) to Islam:

"Founding a Religion for Dummies":

http://bible-for-the-rest-of.us/

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 7:23 PM

Profitsbeard: What a picture! Would that be a Peanut en brochette?

Posted by: texan [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 8:29 PM

Kazuya, read the koran and the hadith and then talk to us about "blind prejudice".

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 8:55 PM

That Islam and terrorism are interlinked is indisputable.

Yeah, I'll say. And this from the cavitied mouths of God Himself and that hairy old pedophile Mohammed:

I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.
--- posted by God in Koran 8:12

Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.’
--- posted by Mohammed in Bukhari V4B52N220

MORE KORANS MORE HADITHS MORE SIRATS MORE MOSLEMS MORE ISLAM MORE!!

To verify beyond any doubt that Islam and Moslem stand for terror, and worse, one need only read their fetid scripture.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 9:46 PM

Kazuya, if the devil were to craft a religion, what would it look like?

Posted by: Carolyn2 at January 23, 2006 06:00 PM

May I answer for Kazuya? It would look like, smell like, sound like, think like, and mimic to the letter----Islam. I think the devil crafted his religion about 1350 years ago. The next closest competitor would be Leftism. The psychology of Leftism and Islam are quite similar; narcissism, delusions of moral superiority, coercive utopianism, to name a few.

If Kazuya is a liberal, he probably doesn't believe in God or the devil, (good/evil) but everyone with a different perspective than his own is a bigot or racist.

Kazuya was thrown into a volcano and resurrected with a "devil gene", wasn't he? Kazuya should know quite well what the devil's religion looks like.

Posted by: Susanp [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2006 11:41 PM

Poor Kazuya.....wades through the morass of Islamic self exposure here in countless news articles along with refernces all showing what islam intends to do to israel the USA or the world. He wades and he wades until he comes to a couple of comments about Islam by people who may well have some reason for what they say.

Prejudice???

Noticing the mote in another's eye but missing the beam in your own.

That is prejudice.

How typical of Muslims, hypocritical left wingers and fools in general.

Posted by: Zathras [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2006 12:29 AM

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