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Here, from FrontPage, is my assessment of the Palestinian Authority election results. Many news links in the original:
The denial started almost immediately after Hamas captured 57 percent of the seats in the Palestinian parliament. Associated Press reported that “Hamas capitalized on widespread discontent with years of Fatah corruption and ineffectiveness. Much of its campaign focused on internal Palestinian issues, while playing down the conflict with Israel.” Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice opined: “Palestinian people have apparently voted for change, but we believe their aspirations for peace and a peaceful life remain unchanged.”But what kind of peace? And how does Hamas (Harakat Muqawama Islamiyya — the Islamic Resistance Movement) propose to rid the Palestinian Authority of corruption? To these questions the answer has been clear for as long as Hamas has existed; the answer to both is Islam. The Hamas Charter of August 18, 1988, quotes Hassan Al-Banna, founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, the first modern Islamic terror organization and the direct forefather of Hamas: “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.” A Hamas supporter in Gaza amplified that principle on Thursday: “We’re happy that now we will have an Islamic state. God willing, Islam will prevail and we will get rid of corruption.”
The Iranian regime of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has joined Hamas in calling for the destruction of Israel, expressed delight at the election outcome. An Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman said: “Iran...hopes that the powerful presence of Hamas at the [political] scene brings about great achievements for the Palestinian nation.”
Others were not so joyful. Jasser Jasser, a Christian pharmacist in Ramallah, said of the prospect of Hamas rule: “We’re all afraid. We’re worried about the future, that we’ll become a second Iran.” Jasser and other non-Muslims have every reason to be afraid. Hassam El-Masalmeh, Hamas leader in Bethlehem, recently declared that his movement intended to reinstitute the traditional tax, the jizya, stipulated in the Qur’an for Jews and Christians in an Islamic state. “We in Hamas,” Masalmeh announced, “intend to implement this tax someday. We say it openly – we welcome everyone to Palestine but only if they agree to live under our rules.” Since along with this tax, Islamic law stipulates that Jews and Christians must submit to a series of humiliating and discriminatory regulations, ensuring their second-class status in line with the Qur’anic stipulation that they “pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued” (9:29).
Some try to draw comfort from the fact that Hamas participated in the elections at all. Victor Batarseh, the mayor of Bethlehem and a Christian, echoed the view of many analysts when he said: “The only way to make Hamas more moderate is to bring them inside the system.” But that hope was belied by statements from Hamas operatives themselves, including Umm Farhat, a candidate for the Palestinian Legislative Council and the mother of a jihad terrorist who murdered five Israeli civilians. Umm Farhat emphasized that Hamas’ participation in elections did not mean it was moderating its jihadist goals one iota: “The jihadist project completes the political one and the political project cannot be completed without jihad.”So now it should be clear to the world that exactly that – the jihad – is the agenda of Hamas, and now of the Palestinian Authority as a whole. While Mahmoud Abbas has been able to distance himself from terror attacks in Israel and claim that he was not able to stop them, now the government of the Palestinian Authority itself will be dominated by an organization that has celebrated such attacks.
Flush with victory, Hamas shows no sign of changing that posture. Hamas operative Ismail Haniyeh said the Islamic group will now work to “complete the liberation of other parts of Palestine.” In a sadly typical example of mainstream media cluelessness, the AP story reporting this adds: “But did not say which territories he was referring to or how he would go about it.” As if there were any doubt in the mind of anyone in Hamas at this point that “Palestine” refers to the entirety of Israel. The Hamas Charter states: “For renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion; the nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its faith, the movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad: ‘Allah is the all-powerful, but most people are not aware.’”
And how will Hamas go about “liberating” its “homeland”? Hamas’ Mahmoud Zahar reiterated after the electoral victory: “We have no peace process. We are not going to mislead our people to tell them we are waiting, meeting, for a peace process that is nothing.” Zahar was echoing the Hamas Charter’s declaration: “[Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement.”
Those words should reverberate in the minds of all the world’s policymakers whenever they are tempted in the coming weeks to call yet again for Israel to moderate its stance toward Hamas and enter into negotiations with the group. Hamas is dedicated to establishing an Islamic state and will no doubt begin immediately to do so. Its Charter maintains, “the Islamic nature of Palestine is part of our religion, and anyone who neglects his religion is bound to lose.” The Charter follows this with a quotation from the Qur’an: “And who forsakes the religion of Abraham, save him who befools himself?” (2:130).
Hamas identifies itself in the Charter as “characterized by a profound understanding, by precise notions and by a complete comprehensiveness of all concepts of Islam in all domains of life: views and beliefs, politics and economics, education and society, jurisprudence and rule, indoctrination and teaching, the arts and publications, the hidden and the evident, and all the other domains of life.” That totalitarian vision, as Jasser Jasser knows well, bodes ill for Palestinian non-Muslims.
Nonetheless, Secretary of State Rice is, of course, correct: the Palestinian “aspirations for peace and a peaceful life remain unchanged.” But they are founded upon a societal model that is fundamentally different from that that Western analysts have so far imagined. “When Islam strives for peace,” wrote the Egyptian Muslim theorist Sayyid Qutb (1906-1966), “its objective is not that superficial peace which requires that only that part of the earth where the followers of Islam are residing remain secure. The peace which Islam desires is that the religion (i.e., the Law of the society) be purified for God, that the obedience of all people be for God alone, and that some people should not be lords over others.” In the Palestinian Authority, the voters have freely chosen such a society. Were they voting against corruption? So were many Germans who voted for Hitler in the early 1930s. The fact that much of the populace had not endorsed his agenda, however, did not prevent him from implementing it.
Ahmadinejad in Iran, Hamas in the Palestinian Authority: jihadists are closer than they have been in ages to realizing the Muslim Prophet Muhammad’s prediction that “the last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him” (Sahih Muslim, bk. 41, no. 6985).
Will the world stand ready to prevent this? Or continue to deceive itself with vain hopes that the men who won the Palestinian elections are men with whom they can deal?
Posted by Robert at January 27, 2006 7:06 AM
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The PLO chater refers to a 'Democratic, secular Palestine, where Muslims, Christians and Jews can live side-by-side in equality'...and therefore negates the historical necessity for a Jewish state.
Under the PA, the Christians have fled this "equality" in droves...and now HAMAS has captured power through the ballot box. If there is a rational for an Islamic Iran and now an Islamic Palestine, then there is certainly a rational for a Jewish state...(though our academics will never discern such basic logic).
Governing is quite a different business than existing on the margins. Things could get very interesting.
Hamas will probably make some sort of statement eschewing violence, and then promptly disassociate with their military wing. This way, like the Al Aqsa Martyers Brigade committing terrorism on behalf of Fatah while the latter could retain plausible deniability, Hamas won't be ceding the armed struggle to other groups like Al Aqsa and Islamic Jihad.
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at January 27, 2006 8:03 AM
It used to be a cold war staple that Democracies Do Not Make War on One Another- so spreading the ballot box allowed us to protect our own interests, etc.
I haven't heard that bromide in a while but it seems to be implicit in our foreign policy. And boy did that idea just take a beating.
at January 27, 2006 8:21 AM
Both neocons and the left refuse to take Islamic ideology seriously. Even today Ralph Peters (basically a neocon) says the Hamas election is only about Fatah corruption. Most Bush-leaning conservatives cling desperately to the notion that democracy is a panacea and that the Jihadis are a fringe. This includes most of FrontPage. Yet Robert goes over there and pretends they are all under one conservative umbrella. Maybe it's time for some intellectual honesty.
at January 27, 2006 8:51 AM
"Hamas will probably make some sort of statement eschewing violence"
fat chance of that ever happening.
they'll twist it to say "violence? we dont condone terrorism, but we support legitimate resistance"
interesting analysis here:
http://www.nysun.com/article/26629?page_no=2
at January 27, 2006 8:56 AM
I've already discussed this with some people on another board. The replies run along the following lines:
- Hamas will turn moderate now that they are in power.
- Jews who could be considered terrorists ended up being part of the Israeli government and they moderated.
- The Hamas charter is from 1988 when they were IRM and most of the leaders from that time are dead or in prison. Hamas is much different now.
- The terrorists are just a fringe of Hamas. The political wing does a lot of good and the vote was about Fatah corruption.
Why don't people put together the actions and words of these groups?
Posted by: Terrahawk at January 27, 2006 8:59 AM
I mean 'intellectual honesty' on the part of mainstream conservatives. Robert is a gentleman who quietly and politely pushes his point.
at January 27, 2006 9:18 AM
Too many 'conservative' fools have allowed these animals on the ballot.
It's time to move the whole 'palestinean' population to Jordan, where they can continue their delusional aspirations and seethe with their kin.
To pretend that they are amenable to a presence in Israel has to be the West's most dangerous illusion.
Posted by: dgene at January 27, 2006 9:18 AM
For those who claim being in power will moderate Hamas, I have an impertinent question: has being in power moderated the radical mullahs in Iran? Was the Taliban moderated any by being in power? The answer, of course, is no.
Posted by: Proud Infidel at January 27, 2006 10:01 AM
To the West, peace is the absence of war. To Islam, peace is the absence of enemies.
Question: How does one rid oneself of enemies?: Convince, convert (revert), or kill!
Muslim lands in Infidel hands: In Palestine, the so-called Muslim land is Israel. In Europe, Spain, parts of France, parts of Austria, all of Eastern Europe, and into Asia, even onto Japan... In the Americas, well, one should now understand, that any Muslim footfall is considered Muslim territory.
We will never experience peace because predatroy Islam will forever push forward in and "re-take" all the world for Allah. After the final country falls and the last soul is reverted or dhimmified, Islam will find itself as did Troy, will billions of resentful over which they will have to exert a watchful tyranny to keep all in line.
For this reason, the five-prayer-a-day obligation, weekly mosque, and ritualistic humbug were invented: to keep watch over all and all in line.
From this day forward we will have nothing but strife and fear for Allah is not a god peace or love...
Posted by: epg at January 27, 2006 10:42 AM
Once Hitler is in power, I'm sure he will moderate his views and behave in a more civilized manner.
Did I say Hitler? I meant Hamas.
Oops.
New belt buckle sure to sell like falafel in the ME:
Islam uber alles.
Posted by: profitsbeard at January 27, 2006 11:08 AM
Governing is quite a different business than existing on the margins. Things could get very interesting.
Islamic scripture is a blueprint for totalitarian government. The takeover of Hamas should be a straightforward matter for these activist Moslems.
The only real decision facing them is how to calibrate a workable balance between the taquiyya and dealing with Western governments to collect the welfare.
But they'll work it out. After all, the media and academia and the permanent governments of the West are on their side.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 27, 2006 11:27 AM
Fantastic, Robert. One of the many things that sets you apart from the run-of-the-mill commentator on Mideast affairs is your command of the primary sources-- not only the Koran and hadiths, but Hamas' charter, Qutb's writings, etc.-- to absolutely skewer the jihadists with their own words. Always a delight to read.
Posted by: Shinoliite at January 27, 2006 11:42 AM
There has never been a "peace process". It has always been a fantasy for a gullible western public. At least now people are seeing and understanding the true nature of Palestinian aspirations. Nothing has really changed, except that Hamas doesn't engage in taqiya the way the Fatah did. I would rather have a wolf in a wolfskin than a wolf in a sheepskin.
At least now the Palestinian leadership will be held accountable for its actions. With Arafat, he was in charge, but never in control. He could always pretend that he had nothing to do with the terrorism, and the dhimmi in the west would be confused. The key is that this should not be a one man, one vote, one time election. Over time, Hamas will have to provide answers to why they have not delivered in making progress, why the economy is underperforming, etc. It is a good thing for the Palestinians to have a throw the bums out election periodically.
The news footage showed jubulant Palestininas celbrating and cheering. This is undoubtedly the first time that any of them have achieved a victory without resorting to intimidation or violence.
This is a baby step in the right direction, even if it is only for one day. For they proved to themsleves that they could actually act in a civilized manner and transfer power with due process. I saw lots of people flashing the V for victory sign rather than firing AK 47s in the air.
Mayer Kahan once said, "if you want to see what the Arabs will do to the Jews, just see what the Arabs do to themsleves." If the Arab and Muslim societies can be weaned away from tribal, honor based thugocracies and treat each other with dignity, then there is a greater chance that they will be able to coexist with outside societies in a similar manner. Lets not expect that this will happen overnight.
Posted by: GFB at January 27, 2006 12:58 PM
Proud Infidel: "For those who claim being in power will moderate Hamas, I have an impertinent question: has being in power moderated the radical mullahs in Iran? Was the Taliban moderated any by being in power? The answer, of course, is no."
The key difference is proximity to Israel and the PA's dependency upon Israel and the West for operating funds.
In the former case, not moderating their behavior (in not their rhetoric) will no longer be "terrorism" or "freedom fighting," it will be war. Given Israel's advantages in technology, strategy and material, such a war would be brief and no contest.
In the latter, it is entirely within the reach of Israel and the West to strangle the PA should Hamas not mind their manners. Most of the PA's operating funds come in the form of tax remittances from Israel and donations from the West. While a few feckless dolts (read: Jimmy Carter) think that everything is hunky-dory, I could see the tap being turned off should Hamas show too much zeal.
Posted by: Cthulhu at January 27, 2006 1:03 PM
First too many hated monger are mounting off about something they know nothing about. Iran is doing very well under Islamist rules. Islamist law is simpler in criminal case than complex western law. Than exmple it than man rob someone at gunpoint for 1 dollar he get 20 to 40 years behind bars, if than corparate officate rob than saveing account or invertor of billion's of dollar he get 1 year in a country clud feberal pirson and in some case no time in jail at all. Under islam law they are both treated as being robber and will get 20 to 40 year behind bar. It than hunger man steal than loaf of bread will get no jail time than his hand arenot cut off, than plan to comprate the owner of the loaf of bread will be work out. Corruption can be refuse by any government party that have the will to do so. The former leader of the PLO didnot want to so and he was than seclur man who strip club that decay young women to take off all their clothes to raise money to the PA. I might be called to jury duty in a big sandle in the city and country I live in insolve
first degree murder, wife beating and homosexual with other 100 police official being involse in it. Islam doesnot allow any muslim to murder than homosexual for being than homosexual, if two men want to engauge in the private of they home in homosexual act the same apply to two women they free to do so. But if rape of than adult or sex with childern is involved then they are subject to islamist laws on those matter. Saudic Arabic doesnot follow true islamist laws.
at January 27, 2006 1:06 PM
Robert, fantastic piece. I echo the above poster's point of your knowledge of Islam setting you analysis apart.
Another poster mentioned that they will soon lose their sainted appeal once they go about the hum-drum job of governing. They will have problems and may screw up. Well, what does a politician do when they mess up? They label a scape goat . . . some unpopular group that is infiltrating their society . . . ex fatah? Jews? Christians? It's what the 'hanging judge' did in Iran--why is this any different.
Before the killers turn to the Jews, they will purify their own through assasination, implementation of Islamic law on their population(Bethleham) and then strike outward.
I've never been in favor of population transfers, but this case may prove to be different. If the world does nothing(of course this is true), and if Israel continues under attack say with a renewed campaign of suicide bombers . . . Israel may strike out Judea and the gaza stripe and may transfer parts(maybe large parts) of the population . . . over to Egypt and Jordan. The press always has had more sympathy for arabs killing arabs then Jews killing a single arab(even when it's not even true like the Lebanese baby whose head was bandaged so moving Ronald Reagan and the world--false picture).
Sooner or later, Israel will be forced to dismantle Hamas and things could turn into a civil war. For Israel, the best posture would be whole-scale removal of the arabs . . . into Jordan.
Posted by: biorabbi at January 27, 2006 1:08 PM
One good column deserves another by Debbie Schlussel. A "Democratic" Disgrace
Some excerpts:
As I wrote here, it was a choice between two terrorist groups. If that's democracy in the Middle East--and with the exception of Israel, it is--it's not something we should be promoting. And, unlike George W. Bush, William Kristol, and other dreamers, that's always been my position.
...
"Democratic" elections in the Mid-East--unless heavily "swayed" by our money and troops, as in Iraq--always result in fundamentalist Islamic theocratic disasters for our country, when a benevolent dictator of our liking would be much preferred. Even in Iraq, Islamic shariah law rules.
...
Saudi Arabia: We have the phony "Allies in the War on Terror", the Saudi Royal family monarchy.
"Democratic" election improvement: If they ever have open, free elections there, Bin Laden will be elected leader (polls show) and control a lot of the oil supply and moneys in banks and businesses in our country.
Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan (largely Palestinian): We have minority Hashemite King Abdullah and Palestinian Queen Rania, both mostly live in the Hashemite Jordanian Kingdoms' of Fifth Avenue, Manhattan and Bethesda, Maryland. Former King Hussein (Abdullah's father) murdered over 10,000 Palestinians in September 1970 ("Black September") rather than give them and leader Arafat free, "democratic" elections.
"Democratic" election improvement: If there were ever elections here, HAMAS would win. Polls show this as the most anti-Semitic (100%), pro Bin Laden, and anti-American Mid-East state (with many close followers; Saudi Arabia not polled).
Pakistan: We have Gen. Pervez Musharraf, who took over in a military coup over democratically elected President Benazir Bhutto.
"Democratic" election improvement: If an election were held there today, Abdul Qadeer (A.Q.) Khan--the Paki official who gave our nuclear secrets to Iran, China, and North Korea, but did zero jailtime--would win. He is the most popular figure besides Bin Laden.
Posted by: igor at January 27, 2006 1:10 PM
DefenderOfPedophiles writes:
"First too many hated monger are mounting off about
something they know nothing about. "
If life is so great in Islamoville, why are there
always more worshippers of the pedophile prophet
coming to the West rather than Westerners moving to
the Dar Al Islam? Could it be that wherever there are lots of mohammdans, life just stinks?
You guys are like smokers who don't want to stay in the smoking section because its awful in there, but you want to smoke in the nonsmoking section! Quit
smoking first.
The fact is, you're just a liar, and Iran sucks.
at January 27, 2006 1:16 PM
defenderofislam
Sounds like a wonderful system. Thank you for sharing some of the advantages of being muslim. Now please take the whole honor killing-Jew hating-anti-civilization-backward cult of islam back to that part of the world where it is most appreciated and, of course, write when you find work.
at January 27, 2006 2:07 PM
Its the "tiny minority of extremists" on display yet again. A mere 57% of Palestinians are so extreme and bloodthirsty that they'll vote for a dysfunctional bunch of crazed, barbaric and primitive murderers, but Palestinians are so blinded by their hatred that they're too stupid to realise that the terrorists ploy is to deliberately keep them poor and blame it on the Israelis.
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at January 27, 2006 2:07 PM
Looking at defender of Islam's spelling, it seems he's too thick to get work. But then, Muslims are the least-educated people on the planet.
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at January 27, 2006 2:09 PM
I think being situated undernearth "Cthulhu" made "DefenderofIslam" mad, hence the reason why his post makes no sense.
Posted by: igor at January 27, 2006 2:26 PM
OT,
This just cracks me up,
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§ion=0&article=76285&d=15&m=1&y=2006&pix=kingdom.jpg&category=Kingdom
(Thanks to a poster at LGF)
at January 27, 2006 3:11 PM
"Olmert government`s decision Friday, Jan. 27 to transfer NIS 200 m tax returns to new Palestinian government next month is criticized.
January 27, 2006, 2:11 PM (GMT+02:00)
Debka
"Former FM Likud’s Silvan Shalom says the transfer of moneys to the Hamas-ruled administration is “scandalous,” and sends a wrong signal to donor-countries for their relations with the terrorist regime.
Hours after its election victory emerged, Hamas posted through a third party a threat that any holdups in funds transfers to the new Palestinian administration would be casus belli. It would prompt large-scale attacks inside Israel and disrupt its March 28 elections - acting prime minister Ehud Olmert’s prospects in particular. Hamas sources evinced an interest in an open-ended truce with Israel.
However Olmert’s military and security advisers warn that Hamas’s only goal is not peace but time to achieve full control of all Palestinian security and intelligence services in preparation for full-scale war against Israel. It will then employ its parliamentary majority to oust Abu Mazen as PA chairman."
at January 27, 2006 3:16 PM
From the latest star, sorry, crescent of the Jihad
Iran is doing very well under Islamist rules..... Saudic Arabic doesnot follow true islamist laws.
Defender of Islam
In that case, what are you doing here? How dare Saudic Arabic not follow true islamist laws. Go ahead, and wage jihad against those kafirs, instead of wasting your time on the internet. Maybe go on a haj to Mecca, and demonstrate against this blasphemy. Become a shahid. You will have martyred yourself in Mecca, and there are 72 houris up there, waiting for you.
Internet is the kafir's place to wage Jihad (for now, at least). But for a faithful Mohammedan such as you, wage the Jihad in Mecca or Medina, not here.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 27, 2006 3:44 PM
The victory of Hamas is undoubtedly good news, just like the victory of Ahmadinejad was. If Fatah was a terrorist organization in thin disguise. It waged a terror war against Israel, while pretending to participare in a "peace process" and renouncing violence (before Western journalists, of course; Mahmud Abbas, not to mention Yassir Arafat, never missed an opportunity to praise suicide bombers when addressing his own people). Hamas, however, is a terrorist organization without any guise. Their openeness and sincerety has won them votes, but will also win international condemnation and will make any forceful acton against them more acceptable to the public opinion. Continuing with my previous analogies between Stalinists and Trotskyites, I can draw another parallel with Nazis and Communists. Nazis were openly madmen. who declared their intentions clearly and unambiguously and fought everyone around. Communists, on the other hand, while being madmen too, disguised themselves as fighters for freedom and equality. That is why Nazis lasted only twelve years in power and now serve as a universally accepted symbo of evil. Communists lasted for more than 70 years and still have many admirers and ideological scions. By implication, if Fatah has been in power for ten years, then Hamas will not last that long.
Posted by: Liggett at January 27, 2006 4:51 PM
Ya know, I question the validity of the term or theory of "peace-process".
It's a made up thing. It has no basis in reality. It's non-sensical actually. There is no "process" that produces or destroys peace. I'd say it's proven to be a counterproductive endeaver.
Let me guess, it's rooted in the Humanist doctrine of "conflict resolution", or "anger-management".
The best you can hope for is a compromise with evil or falsehood(the Hegelian Dialectical Process, learn about it)
Oh are'nt we sooo advanced and sophisticated. Hahahaha.
Why the hell are the strong and advanced sacrificing themselves to the to the weak and ignorant?? Let fricken evolution take it's course, it WILL WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT. And evolution don't give a sh-t about some sanctimonious sounding high ideals. Only the STRONG SURVIVE, JACK.
Cause only the strong survive.(it's not nice to fool with mother-nature).
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MIGHT MAKES RIGHT.
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Yes, we need to view the world AS IT IS. Not how we wish or fantasize it to be. It is the only way we will be able to survive without being enslaved. They can enslave your body, but they can't get your mind, if, and it's a BIG if, we know HOW to resist. They don't want us to know HOW.
For many years we have had this problem, we as in "the little people". The elitist world has been propagating a fantasy existence upon us. Why? Because they can, and they have a pathological superiority complex(and numerous other disorders), which they desire to MAINTAIN. Even NORMALIZE.
Yes, the world consists of HUMANS. And in this world MIGHT DOES MAKE RIGHT!!! Cultural(and moral) Relavitism is TRUE!(because culture is based on moral outlook, and moral outlook is based on emotion, emotions are immune to qualification/valuation.) But,,,,(a big)but, the CONCLUSIONS derived from it ARE IN ERROR!!! They are the result of EMOTIONALISM and WISHFUL THINKING detached from REALITY. Also of course they(the conclusions) are also viewed as a convenient tool upon which to JUSTIFY a worldview that furthers the Elitist agenda(Humanism). Nobody is better than anybody else, and if we're all the same nobody can -=justify=- attacking anyone else
( war and/or terrorism). Therefore we will all be pacified and willing slaves to the Elitist Class, forever.
But, might makes right. They lied to us. With all their kuumbuy-ya , "Imagine", "outlaw war!", "can't we all just get along", "don't worry, be happy", "oppression/exploitation", anger-management, "they're not evil/bad, just different", "peace-process" etc.,etc. non-sense they were SEDUCING us into a FANTASYLAND.
They just want to possess EXCLUSIVE privilege(POWER.(might)) to exersize CONTROL over the "little-people". Control the mind, the body will follow; the ultimate efficient and effective way to corral the herd into slavery.
Pacification. Pacification.
The muslims KNOW. They are resisting. They have their own DESIRE for POWER and CONTROL.
Freedom, human rights?? That's NOT what we offer them. That is NOT the objective. Don't be so gullible. Might makes right, hehe, there, I said it again! I can imagine the thoughts going through some people's minds reading this, blasphemy, nazi, JERK!
DENIAL!
The REAL WORLD EXPOSED, NAKED. HUMAN. Flawed, corrupt.
Not all bad of course. But, denial of the WHOLE self degenerates into varying degrees of insanity.
Not healthy if one wishes to be free.
Real freedom resides in the mind. A slave may give up control of his body to survive, but real submission only happens in the mind. The mind is capable of freeing the body, not always, but often. The body cannot free the mind. With the mind equality does not exist, the mind is more powerful than the body, the mind is the ultimate source of might. But the mind has it's vulnerabilities too, sometimes perceptions are in error, sometimes the CHARACTER is weak, and the mind is used for foolish or erroneous pursuits. Knowing the vulnerabilities of the mind is a source of power. Exersizing the mind increases it. Reality become CLEAR, progress becomes achievable, and freedom becomes REAL.
Might makes right. The muslims are showing us that. Why else would we have to dominate and control them? If we were just right, or, if our mode of living was so self-evidently superior why would they resist?? Because they are brainwashed? Stupid? Insane? Gluttons for punishment?
We ARE ALL BRAINWASHED/PROGRAMED( I've decided to rewash my brain and reprogram myself). Free-will is a double-edged sword. It both does and does not exist. The ultimate paradox. If we believe we have free-will, we will possess it, if we don't believe in it, we won't have it!! Hahahaha!
I'm still laughing...
No, the muslims are resisting us because they know that "might makes right". And they know that is what makes the world go round. Who shall dominate who?
Not all have desired to dominate the whole world. At least they did'nt used too. Some just wished to live in their own little corner and dominate that. But that's not acceptible anymore. Now there are great blocs of societies, and they dream of forcing the rest of the world to live like themselves, with themselves dictating the proper mode of thought and life.
There's no doubt the mode of life in the West is superior, might makes right proves it's better. It follows from logic that a more advanced society will be mightier than a backwards one, and therefore, better, superior. RIGHT.
But we have this DEGENERACY PROBLEM. A severe problem. The one that denies reality. The one that denies "might makes right". Combined with the one that sees all cultures as EQUALLY wonderful and worthy of respect. This somewhat, actually not somewhat, it seriously ERODES our SUPERIORITY, and ARTIFICIALLY and SELF-DESTRUCTIVELY INCREASES the POWER and EFFECTIVENESS of our ENEMIES. There is an intentional LEVELING-OUT effect, which if not arrested, will LEAVE THE FINAL OUTCOME IN DOUBT!!
There is no doubt what the final outcome would be if we understood and accepted reality NOW. Might makes right.
But, the Elitist world has a vested interest in exporting our corrupted system(of which they are the corrupt masters) into the corrupt Islamic World. By not allowing reality to be acknowledged, by propagating virtual-reality, they maintain control in our sphere and in fact solidify it. By acknowledging reality, and exposing it, they loose their power over us. This is to be avoided by all means. Reality will lead to rebellion by those who reject subjugation and servitude. The narcisistic Elitist "managers" will be lucky to escape with their lives. Reality is a no-no. DISTRACTION IS KING.
This is'nt about "kinda reality" or "sorta true", this is real reality. This is facts corresponding to observations, repeatedly. If ignored; for infinity. Freedom will never be allowed to be defined as something that might threaten the masters(like in the old U.S.A.). Very soon, if not already, there will be no stopping this train on the way towards total(mind and body) enslavement of the world.
But guess what, that WILL be an improvement on some peoples lives. That's why it's popular.
Yep, yep, I'm crazy you say. But relavitism is true, and in my world I've just regained my sanity, the problem is, I lack the MIGHT to be Right. I lack the power to define sanity. But might is a comodity that can be PRODUCED, and the production facility is the mind. Regardless, in my mind I shall remain free.
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If you think the muslims are crazy and irrational compared to us, read Khomeini's speeches before he came to power, they are available on-line. And he clearly put the lie to what the West is selling the Islamic world. This is not to say Islam is "good", but to the Islamic elite, it is.
at January 27, 2006 6:21 PM
um, defender of Islam...
What language do you speak? In this great nation, we speak English. If you want your arguments to be taken seriously by educated Americans, you will have to learn Engish grammar....Oh, what, you aren't American...you are a muslim from some foreign nation...oh, well, than you are the enemy defending the enemy.
...and, Iran is one of the five worst nations to live in on Planet Earth, according to Amnesty International. But, if you do live in America, I would proudly chip in to get you the f#$% out of my wonderful nation, and back to Iran.
at January 27, 2006 6:50 PM
I could be wrong, but my guts tell me that Hamas will act circumspectly and cautiously towards the Israelis while it concentrates its efforts on internal Palestinian issues, which it can control. This will include a rapid Islamization of the territories and the formal advent of Sharia.
Posted by: Cornelius at January 27, 2006 6:58 PM
They are however committed to a PIECE process - a piece of Hebron, a piece of Shechem, a piece of the West Bank, a piece of the Negev, a piece of Jerusalem, etc.
Posted by: jeffreyimm at January 27, 2006 7:20 PM
I've already discussed this with some people on another board. The replies run along the following lines:
- Hamas will turn moderate now that they are in power.
- Jews who could be considered terrorists ended up being part of the Israeli government and they moderated.
- The Hamas charter is from 1988 when they were IRM and most of the leaders from that time are dead or in prison. Hamas is much different now.
- The terrorists are just a fringe of Hamas. The political wing does a lot of good and the vote was about Fatah corruption.
Why don't people put together the actions and words of these groups?
Posted by: Terrahawk [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 08:59 AM
Good question, Terrahawk, but remember you are dealing with obvious idiots who would suggest that even the most extreme of the Zionists in pre-48 Israel are the moral equivalent of the Islamists who happily send their children to self-destruct and kill as many people as they can while they are at it and then go on to live better than the average Palestinian for their blood-soaked contribution to the cause. They are also totally ignorant of the harassment and worse that Jews were subjected to as they simply went about their business reclaiming desolate lands that abandoned by peasantry that could no longer eke out a subsistance from them and pay rent to their Muslim landlords.
Posted by: waterdragon52 at January 27, 2006 7:54 PM
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