Jihad Watch has come under fire for its associates, most notably Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald is suspected of being behind a deadly 1993 run-on-sentence, but no charges were ever filed.

The word I get from my friends in the USDoJ is that they were ready to file charges, awright. But, when it came out that Fitzgerald had layered up and retained Sen. Joe Biden as defense counsel, well, all of a sudden nobody had the stomach for a trial.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 27, 2006 1:49 PM

Hey, I can't find any of those books on Amazon!

Posted by: longtime lurker at January 27, 2006 1:53 PM

If it's possible to die laughing, I just had a near-death experience.

Posted by: Shinoliite at January 27, 2006 1:58 PM

Ditto Bwahahahahahahahahaha . .. .

Posted by: justamomof4 at January 27, 2006 2:00 PM

Freaking Batman Spencer, that is so funny.

CAIR is showing their tolerance for free speech again,
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=18973_CAIR_Goes_After_Handel&only

Posted by: Carolyn2 at January 27, 2006 2:03 PM

Carolyn2, I've already sent an email to KFI and Michelle Kube voicing support, and she replied very promptly to me. Send email support to: MichelleKube@ClearChannel.com.

Posted by: longtime lurker at January 27, 2006 2:07 PM

Oh, Thank you so much for posting this!
I had hoped to include the story of one Mr. DC Watson, a 97 pound weakling who after getting sand kicked in his face by CAIR decided to risk a stamp and send off Robert Spencer's book which made a new man out of him in just seven days. But then I started thinking of other posters who deserve mention, and well, you know how it is.
Perhaps some of you will feel moved to add to this.
And regarding Wikipedia, it is under persistent attack. Links in Wikipedia to Jihadwatch are regularly redirected to some twits's blog. Any help watching this is of course appreciated. In fact, even as I write I see that it has happened again.
Thanks!

Posted by: AnneCrockett at January 27, 2006 2:21 PM

I'm surprised that they didn't call Robert a jerk for irking the Turk.

Posted by: igor at January 27, 2006 2:21 PM

Actually, just carrying all of Robert's books around made a new man out of me.

Posted by: longtime lurker at January 27, 2006 2:38 PM

Re: Fitzgerald is suspected of being behind a deadly 1993 run-on-sentence, but no charges were ever filed."

LOL

Posted by: johnb at January 27, 2006 2:41 PM

OT, from Nick Griffin's trial.
If he were not truly a racist, I would clap hands for him - he is doing a great job at least here, showing a couragous insight into the natuure of Islam and its holy books.
Could BNP be reformable? Granny W???

"Mr Griffin and BNP member Mark Collett deny intending to stir up racial hatred in speeches in West Yorkshire in 2004.

The jury at Leeds Crown Court was given copies of extracts from the Koran which Mr Griffin discussed in detail.

Judge Norman Jones twice intervened to remind Mr Griffin he was not making a speech at a political meeting.

Mr Griffin said he wanted the jury to read sections of the Koran as he claimed Islam was incompatible with British democracy.

Koran 'misquoted'

After quoting from chapters of the text, Griffin said the verses justified "the epidemic of anti-white racist attacks and also attacks on Sikhs, Hindus and black people in every city in this land where there is a significant Muslim population".

Mr Griffin quoted further sections, claiming the verses justified Islam treating women as "sexual playthings of very little value beyond that" and also violence, including the 9/11 attacks in the US.

He told the jury he had spent a lot of time studying the Koran and believed it was often misquoted by politicians, including Prime Minister Tony Blair, as they tried to claim Islam was a peaceful faith.

"Islam and our democracy are totally incompatible," he said.

"It's very easy for people brought up in a post-Christian secular society to think that this is a dusty old book, a bit like the Bible, and it's a history book from the eighth century.

"To Muslims the Koran is the literal word of God - the only law as to how to live your life." Mr Griffin, of Llanerfyl, Powys, Wales, denies two charges of using words or behaviour intended to stir up racial hatred and two alternative charges of using words or behaviour likely to stir up racial hatred. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/4654948.stm

Posted by: Polish infideless at January 27, 2006 2:51 PM

Amazing...

You tell the truth about islam...
and you are compared to darth vader...

But if any regular american started comparing the Koran and naming it to something the muslims would find offensive..

Well the muslims would scream to the UN for protection from the TRUTH...

There would be boyucotts in the arab streets..
There would be death threats..

amazing...
The hypocrisy of the left and their terrorist loving friends..

Posted by: jingoist at January 27, 2006 2:58 PM

Polish infideless,

I'm afraid the BNP is not reformable. "Whiteness" will always be part of their platform. And Griffin said Kevin McDonald (a notorious antisemite) should be a given a fair hearing about his views about the Jews. McDonald is a white nationalist who claims that ALL Jews (religious and secular, rightwing and leftwing) outcompete Gentiles and work to destroy the society from within by creating ideologies like communism, Zionism, and multiculturalism that only benefits their group. I'm glad that the Koran is being seriously discussed, but we should not welcome Griffin with open arms. Just because he is downplaying his prejudices does not mean that he has abandoned them. Same deal with LePen.

Posted by: igor at January 27, 2006 3:02 PM

Hi everyone. Check out the definition of Islam in Uncyclopedia by following the link in the Spencer page. It is hilarious.

Posted by: middleastern at January 27, 2006 3:10 PM

As one who became ensnared in one of Fitzgerald's ponderous paragraphs, and thereby rendered nearly incapacitated, I can attest that it is no laughing matter. The man is a menace to those of us with simpler minds.

Posted by: Infidel33 at January 27, 2006 3:12 PM

I believe that Igor is right. The whiteness is at the core of their manifesto. But this is one of three trials this week alone where the Koran has been scrutinised critically which is a GOOD THING.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at January 27, 2006 3:25 PM

back to the thread in hand, you missed out Or as Oscar Wilde put it, "May Allah rip out his spine from his back and split his brains in two, and then put them both back, and then do it over and over again."

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at January 27, 2006 3:27 PM

An aquaintance of mine, recently retired from a career in law enforcement, told me that Fitzgerald has been cited on numerous occassions since that infamous 1993 incident.

Posted by: PRCS at January 27, 2006 3:29 PM

Nice helmet, too.

Posted by: Elliot at January 27, 2006 3:36 PM

Fri. 27 Jan 2006
Los Angeles Times

"The war has not diminished Americans' support for military action against Iraq's neighbor if nuclear pursuits aren't dropped.(57% back a hit on Iran if defiance persists)

By Greg Miller, Times Staff Writer

WASHINGTON — Despite persistent disillusionment with the war in Iraq, a majority of Americans supports taking military action against Iran if that country continues to produce material that can be used to develop nuclear weapons, a Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll has found.

The poll, conducted Sunday through Wednesday, found that 57% of Americans favor military intervention if Iran's Islamic government pursues a program that could enable it to build nuclear arms.

Support for military action against Tehran has increased over the last year, the poll found, even though public sentiment is running against the war in neighboring Iraq: 53% said they believe the situation there was not worth going to war.

The poll results suggest that the difficulties the United States has encountered in Iraq have not turned the public against the possibility of military actions elsewhere in the Middle East.

Support for a potential military confrontation with Iran was strongest among Republican respondents, among whom 76% endorsed the idea. But even among Democrats, who overwhelmingly oppose the war in Iraq, 49% supported such action."

Posted by: hammerhead at January 27, 2006 3:43 PM

Robert- You are truly a hero. You are Freakin' Batman.
Done with love:

http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/7822/batman3tv.jpg

Posted by: jimbabwe at January 27, 2006 4:07 PM

Yikes! Somebody deleted that article from Uncyclopedia, even though I did see it there earlier. Why don't they do such experiments on the original Wikipedia?

Punishment for Hugh should be to ban him from typing with both hands, and force him to type with opposite hands & feet - left hand and right feet, or right hand and left feet. That way, the sentences would be shorter, and as the sentences he types get shorter, the sentence he serves for these excessive run-on sentences can be made shorter as well. Also, it has to be made fair for the Muslims.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 27, 2006 4:16 PM

Who cares about Uncyclopedia or whatever other fraks may be out there on the web? Wikipedia is much more popular and the article appears adequate now, doesn't it, Anne?

Posted by: Liggett at January 27, 2006 4:24 PM

I printed the page before it was removed.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at January 27, 2006 4:24 PM

Like Wikipedia, just click on the "history" tab at the top of the page to access earlier versions.

As for Hugh's stylistic traits, I would put forth the principled position that the use of long sentences and 50-cent words is not a disorder, but rather a legitimate lifestyle choice preferred by those of us who can't stand to see a mere subject and predicate, and view our ability to string together clause after clause with comma and semicolon as a right that is as inalienable as the right of antidisestablishmentarians to eschew defenestration in the privacy of their own domicile; we defend the right to extended sentences because they preserve the intricacy of our arguments without resorting to an oversimplified style that takes on a tone reminiscent of Mister Rogers telling his viewers "You can never go down the drain," and, furthermore, see it as a noble mission to improve the lung capacity of mankind by keeping such missives widely available to be read aloud.

*gasp for air*

Posted by: Shinoliite at January 27, 2006 4:33 PM

Long sentences followed by very short sentences are best of all. See Saintsbury. A History of English. Prose. Rhythm.

Posted by: Hugh at January 27, 2006 4:33 PM

Long sentences followed by very short sentences are best of all.

Yes.

Posted by: Shinoliite at January 27, 2006 4:44 PM

Well... I believe that the statute of limitations is operative... After all these years, I can admit it. I was the culprit in the infamous "deadly run-on sentence" back in 1993. I believe it happened when I was trying to give an account of dhimmi Edward-Saidite tendencies in London's SOAS - I am afraid that I tend to lose control in such circumnstances. In fact, once, dealing with some false assumptions in a left-wing article, I think I managed to string some 300 words together without a full stop. At any rate, I regret that Hugh had to suffer for my linguistic misbehaviour.

Posted by: Paolo at January 27, 2006 5:21 PM

Igor, Granny,
I was afraid so... let us start a party that would be Nick Griffin stripped of this horrible anti-Semitism and racism. I can't find one so there is some potential for us ;-)
Sorry for my spelling - I get overexcited, which is reflected in my dreadful typing mistakes - should be "courageous" of course.

Posted by: Polish infideless at January 27, 2006 5:31 PM

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1995599,00.html

BNP chief predicted an Islamist attack on British city, court told
By Andrew Norfolk



THE leader of the British National Party (BNP) predicted that Muslim extremists would attack a British city in a speech made 14 months before the July 7 London bombings, a court was told yesterday.
Nick Griffin told a BNP rally in May 2004 that “sooner or later there’s going to be Islamic terrorists letting off bombs in major cities”. He said that the perpetrators would be “asylum-seekers or second-generation Pakistanis living in somewhere like Bradford”.

Mr Griffin, 45, and Mark Collett, 24, a senior BNP member, are on trial at Leeds Crown Court accused of conduct intended or likely to stir up racial hatred. The charges are linked to speeches that the two men gave in West Yorkshire between January and May 2004 and which were secretly recorded by an undercover BBC journalist.

Footage of a speech made by Mr Griffin at Morley Town Hall, Leeds, was played to the jury yesterday. In it, standing on a stage before a desk draped with the Union Jack, the BNP chairman was greeted with applause and cheers.

He attacked the three main political parties, the police and the press, claiming that they were all part of a conspiracy to cover up the murder of whites by Asians. Mr Griffin contrasted the extensive coverage given to the fatal stabbing of Stephen Lawrence, a black teenager, with the alleged silence over “the forgotten white victims” of racist murders.

He listed incidents in Oldham, Colne, near Burnley, Manchester, Glasgow and Sunderland, where he claimed that “young Asians of the Muslim persuasion” had escaped justice after murdering white people.

“They’re free, they’re laughing and joking and telling their mates that you can kill a white boy and the papers won’t talk about it, the police won’t do anything about it, the courts won’t convict you.”

Mr Griffin said the Establishment knew that the country was “a tinderbox” but were “hoping against hope that if they shut up about it it will go away”. The mainstream parties, he said, could either “allow us to express the anger and the concern and the fear of the British people”, or they could “try and bottle it all up so it all bloody well goes bang”, in which case “there is going to be blood all over our streets”.

Later in the speech, Mr Griffin appeared to predict his own arrest and trial. “They will take our national and our local leadership and they will throw us into prison on the pretext that, ‘We’re having to arrest radical Muslims who are blowing things up, and if we only arrest them it’s going to upset their community and further radicalise their youth. So we’ve got to show we’re even-handed, so while we’re arresting Islamic terrorist bombers we’ll also arrest elected councillors of the British National Party’. ”

Also shown was a filmed speech by Mr Collett, at a Keighley pub in March 2004, during which he said that the BNP was engaged in a “battle for Britain”.

The jury has been told that it is not being asked to pass judgment on the politics of the BNP or of the defendants, but to decide whether the speeches went so far “beyond robust comment” that they revealed an intent to stir up racial hatred.

Mr Griffin, of Llanerfyl, Wales, denies two counts of using words or behaviour intending to stir up racial hatred and two alternative charges of using words or behaviour likely to stir up racial hatred.

Mr Collett, of Rothley, Leicestershire, denies four counts of the first offence and four of the alternative charge.

The trial was adjourned until tomorrow.



.
.
Mr. Spencer predicted the same.

Posted by: Borg at January 27, 2006 5:40 PM

Liggett,
I consider Uncyclopedia to be a vastly superior product than Wikipedia.
Check out the Uncyclopedia article on JD Salinger, it was about baseball or bread or something. I can never remember that sort of thing, if you want to know the truth. I don't care much for school and don't pay attention that often. Except I do like English. So I guess it's kinda weird that I don't remember.

Posted by: AnneCrockett at January 27, 2006 6:28 PM

Polish infideless has the right idea. Why wait for others to do for you, and not as well as you'd do for yourselves?

There is a question of the French Revolution Bleue, that 'if they're anti-Masonic, are they anti-Semitic as well?' Well, who really cares? If they are anti-Semites it really means only that we do our part and do it well, and that we do better than they till we win. Griffin is an obvious racist, and he is still the best hope the English have of resistence at this point, which is nothing for the English to be happy with. Au contraire.

If they do what you should be doing, then take the initiative from them. We met across the world yesterday, wearing our blue scarves, and we sat at our respective McDonalds diners. They have the same horrible coffee in Britain. No complaining allowed. They also serve horrible tea.

We met, we weere not attacked. We had a good meeting. We will do so next week. We will in time come to some agreement about what it is we wish to do concretely. Now the barrier of the aether is broken we know we can meet face to face. It happened, it worked, and anyone can do it. Griffin does it. You can do it.

Posted by: sonofwalker at January 27, 2006 7:21 PM

It's too bad a few bloggers above seemed to have missed the joke. Uncyclopedia is making fun of Wikepedia.

That was a good tip, Middleastern (Islam link in article). For everyone else, here's what the uncyclopedists have under Osama bin Laden's portrait on the Islam page:

The world's most famous Islam (police be upon him).

Posted by: waterdragon52 at January 27, 2006 7:45 PM

Long sentences followed by very short sentences are best of all. See Saintsbury. A History of English. Prose. Rhythm.

OT: Is that why Winnie the Pooh books have incredibly long sentences? I find it tough reading to my kid, without breaking it up in between.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 27, 2006 8:01 PM

Jihad Watch has come under fire for its associates, most notably Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald is suspected of being behind a deadly 1993 run-on-sentence, but no charges were ever filed.

l read some where that Hugh once worked for "Reader's Digest", but got canned first day!
lol

Posted by: Lulu at January 27, 2006 8:32 PM

Yes it is very funny- direct link:

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Islam

Posted by: Borg at January 27, 2006 8:51 PM

Hugh

You finally have your own entry in wikipedia. I guess all the criticism of wikipedia about you and Robert being interchangable finally got to them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Fitzgerald

Anne

Time to clone yourself - you can't have the time to track Robert AND Hugh. I doubt if we can handle it the day Rebecca gets her own page.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 27, 2006 9:06 PM

Oh, they have a buncha pages now. A few weeks ago I was looking up a quote from The Godfather and discovered that there are Cliff's Notes for movies. In the same spirit, Wikipedia now has a page for Jihad Watch, for Dhimmi Watch. They have lots of pages about web sites. I have to ask, who is so lame that they need to read an article about a web site instead of clicking a link and checking it out?

Posted by: AnneCrockett at January 27, 2006 9:43 PM

Shinolite: "...our ability to string together clause after clause with comma and semicolon..."

Semicolon Whats that? The trick is to string together clause after clause without commas and semicolons. Forget punctuations. Only frustrated english teachers are interested in them.

Uncyclopedia's listing of RS and Hugh was comic relief. Usually there's nothing funny about Islam or muslims, except when they send hate mail to Robert. An english teacher could have a lot of fun with those letters...

Posted by: duh_swami at January 27, 2006 11:27 PM

"let us start a party that would be Nick Griffin stripped of this horrible anti-Semitism and racism. I can't find one so there is some potential for us", Polish infideless.

Yes, you are so right, start it, take away the legitimate issues that the BNP are promoting in regard to the danger of Islam, and use them to start an anti-Jihad, anti-Da'wa party, I'm sure that their is a large segment of the voting public that would respond favorably.

Tap into the silent majority that senses something is wrong with the sate of the UK, and is rightly put off by the racist and anti-Semitic aspects of the BNP.

You could diminish the influence of the BNP and fight those that would harm your country.

Posted by: El Cid at January 28, 2006 1:08 AM

there's nothing funny about Islam or muslims...

:^(

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 28, 2006 10:40 AM

J and D Watch make money selling those as funny t-shirts ?

Posted by: meredith at January 28, 2006 11:16 PM

sorry wasnt asking if you did ... i was thinking it would be a good fundraising idea :P

Posted by: meredith at January 29, 2006 12:19 AM