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January 30, 2006

Al-Zawahiri: Bush the 'butcher of Washington'

Zawahiri pops up again, making, among other things, another appeal to the appeasement-minded Left. From CNN:

"The American airplanes, in collaboration with their agent of the Jews and the Crusaders, Musharraf, launched an airstrike on Damadola near Peshawar around the Eid al-Adha holiday, during which 18 Muslims -- men, women and children -- died in their fight against Islam, which they call terrorism. Their claim was to target this poor man and four of my brothers. The whole world discovered the lies as the Americans fight Islam and the Muslims. Before I discuss this incident, I have some messages to send out.

Zawahiri wants to portray the war in Iraq as a fight against Islam for the same reason Bush wants to portray it as anything but. Nuance, as in a sober realization that the conflict is fed by the jihad ideology and that that is what must be targeted if the conflict is ever to end, eludes Bush as much as it does his enemy.

"My first message is to the butcher of Washington, Bush: You are not just defeated and lying about it, but you are, with God's help, a loser. You are bad luck to your people. You brought them disasters and catastrophes, and you will bring them even more disasters.

"Bush, you failed crusader, know that we are the nation of monotheism, which believes that no one is greater than God. He sent us a prophet and a book that was never edited like the other books before it. A unique book that defies anyone to come up with anything like it.

"I will meet my death when God wishes. But if my time hasn't come, you and all the Earth's forces can't change it, not even by a second.

"Bush, do you know where I am? I am among the Muslim masses enjoying their care with God's blessings and sharing with them their holy war against you until we defeat you, God willing.

I'll bet he is. Why don't they turn him in? Isn't there any Muslim around him who is part of the Vast Majority of Peaceful Moderate Muslims?

"My second message is to the American people who are drowning in illusions. I tell you that Bush and his gangs are shedding your blood and wasting your money in frustrated adventures. The lion of Islam, Sheikh Osama bin Laden, offered you a decent exit from your dilemma, but your leaders, who are keen to accumulate wealth, insist on throwing you in battles and killing your souls in Iraq and Afghanistan and, God willing, on your own land.

A decent exit. He offered a truce, which according to the Islamic law that he reveres, would only postpone the inevitable day of reckoning, and make the Muslims that much stronger in the process.

"Your leaders responded that they do not negotiate with terrorists and that they are winning in their war on terrorism. I tell them, O' liars and greedy war merchants, who is pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan, you or us? Whose soldiers are committing suicide out of desperation, you or us?

"To the American mother I say, if the defense ministry called you to tell you your son is coming back home in a coffin, remember Bush.

"To the British wife I say, if you got a call telling you your husband is coming back home with his body paralyzed, amputated or charred, remember Blair."

This is the kind of talk that will appeal to appeasers. It should not move anyone with the courage to do what it takes to resist the global jihad. But of course, America and Britain are not at this point even fighting against the global jihad.

Posted by Robert at January 30, 2006 5:22 PM
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What a rat. A bug eyed little rodent with a beard, hiding, slithering, never sleeping in the same cave two nights in a row, knowing full well that one day, he and his buddy Usama will have hellfire missles up their hind ends.

Posted by: Asylum inmate [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 6:14 PM
A unique book that defies anyone to come up with anything like it.

This statement is the hardest of all of the Mohammedan statements to refute, in fact, I wholeheartedly believe this assertion. Mein Kampf was but a mere plagiarisation of this unique book.

Posted by: Lisa [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 6:15 PM

Sounds like he's running for Congress in Massachusetts.

Maybe this is where Howard Dean sent all of the missing Democratric war chest funds?

God willing, he will be hit by a hellfire missile before his next missive.

And the Koran, itself, is the world greatest plagiarism, of the Old and New Testaments, gnostic mish-mashes, and pre-Islamic mythology.

Who cares if no one can come up with something as demented as this diary of a pedophile warlord.

The sooner its deluded followers read it and stop just mouthing it the sooner they will wake from its bloodthirsty mesmerism and rejoin humanity.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 6:32 PM

The whole point of this rant appears to be "Nyah nyah nyah nyah nah-nah, you missed me, you missed me!"

Posted by: JadeDragoness [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 6:55 PM

This is interesting, in that it's the second time in two weeks that Al Qaeda has asked for a truce. We know Muslims only ask for a truce when they are weak and losing. The CIA also likely has someone inside AQ as they would not have known where Zawahiri and other top AQ leaders were meeting without inside info.Afterall, it was someone in AQ who sold out Khalid Sheik Mohammed(sp) for $25 mil.Zawahiri, Bin Laden and AQ cannot survive three more years of George Bush so they appear desperate to both damage Bush politically and to buy time to regroup with a phoney truce.This new AQ tape which appeared very quickly seems to be evidence of that.I also noticed the usual threats to kill American citizens are not included just whining appeals to the appeasement minded left. This is good ,AQ is desperate now is the time the US government to go in for the kill.

Posted by: Roxane [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 7:04 PM

Zawahiri said "Bush, do you know where I am? I am among the Muslim masses enjoying their care with God's blessings and sharing with them their holy war against you until we defeat you, God willing."

I have said the same thing about Zawahiri, Zarcawi, Bin Laden, and others. It takes just one "moderate" Moslem to make the call and say I just saw him down at the MiniMart, or hiding behind the big rock down by the river, and the problem would be solved. Not a majority, not a group of "moderates", just ONE person to say where he is.

In the Moslem world, their faces are as well known as movie stars are here. Someone must have seen them.

Given that no-one has come forward, one might get the idea that "collatoral damage" would not be so collatoral in this case.

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 7:05 PM

Al-Zawahiri does not come from the lower depths, and neither "poverty" nor any of those other off-the-shelf pseudo-explanations will do. He comes from the highest stratum Egyptian Arab society. He was trained as a surgeon. He comes from a long line of physicians, professors, and others who have made their mark. His great-uncle was Azzam Pasha, the first Secretary-General of the Arab League, serving from 1945 to 1952. . It was Azzam Pasha who promised, on the eve of the simultaneous attack by five Arab armies intended to snuff out in the cradle the nascent state of Israel, that the world would, in his words, "a massacre the likes of which the world had not seen since the days of the Mongols." That was the promise; that was what the Secretary-General of the Arab League foresaw. There is a direct link, ideologically, betweem Azzam Pasha and Al-Zawahiri. The difference is this. When Azzam Pasha was alive, there was no vast oil wealth. There was no huge presence of Muslims who had been allowed to settle behind what they regard as enemy lines, in Western Europe and even in North America. There were not those technological advances, made by the Infidels but exploited by the Muslims, which spread the word of Islam so that the pious yet largely ignorant Muslim would no longer remain so ignorant of its teachings, through the audiocassettes, and now videocassettes, and Internet access, and satellite channels such as Al-Jazeera, that spread the most venomous Islamic teachings about Infidels and the necessity of Jihad to every village.

No one has seen fit in the Infidel press to note the connection between Azzam Pasha, who participated in the Lesser Jihad against Israel, and Ayman al-Zawahiri, a leading figure in the Greater Jihad, against Infidels everywhere. No one has seen fit to remind Infidels what Azzam Pasha promised in 1948 was not different in the essential message, but only in the size of the intended target.

By the way, having failed to destroy Israel, and needing the good will of the Western, Christain world, Azzam Pasha made sure to send Christmas greetings to the world's Christians in 1951 (this happens to be mentioned by Guillaume at the end of his book "Islam"). And in 1979, another Muslim leader, still establishing himself, also sent Christmas greetings to the world's Christians -- and with the same degree of sincerity that Azzam Pasha had exhibited. The name of that sender of Christmas wishes?

Ayatollah Khomeini.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 7:15 PM

slyde thinks his stupid jabs about Jesus will inflame us like talking about muhamMAD does the moslems. The true G-d doesn't need us to defend him.

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 7:21 PM

BTW, I thought you muhamMADans revered Jesus, not so, huh?

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 7:24 PM

Al-Zawahiri is right about Bush. He is a liar and a butcher. The usa with Bush at the helm is guilty of murdering 18 people in their zeal to assasinate Al-Zawahiri. america calls Al-Zawahiri a terrorist but kills innocent people in Iraq, Afghanistan and other lands on a routine basis. Not that the usa has ever cared about innocents, they even come up with politically correct terms for it like "collateral damage" They try to make killing Fathers , Mothers and Children sound more acceptable to the general population. The usa is guilty of using the same military tactics Al-Zawahiri and the mujahideen. Who will be slaughtered next by the americans?

Robert DeLancey from Canada

Posted by: Robert DeLancey [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 7:24 PM

And here, for connoisseurs of Al-Zawahiri, and possibly even for some in the State Department whom, Condoleeza Rice thinks, misinformed her about the chances of Hamas's success (good god --all she has to do is look at the history of the past 10 years to see what was perfectly predictable, or perhaps to just visit JihadWatch and its archives once a week -- it might do her some good) is more biographical detail about Ayman al-Zawahiri, who like Bin Laden is the scion of a famous, well-off family:

"Under ordinary circumstances Ayman Al Zawahri
should have figured as yet another doctor in the infinite list of successful medics that characterizes his father's extended family. If an uncle, Mohammed Al Zawahri features among the country's top dermatologists, another is ex-dean of Cairo University's school of medicine. There is also the relation who is senior executive of the Egyptian branch of Swiss phammaceutical giant Hoechst. And if a half dozen other Zawahris practice medicine at Al Azhar, Islam's oldest university, mention should also be made of the Zawahri cousins who are surgeons and dentists in the Gulf And let's not forget the Zawahri medics in the USA, including a dentist, a GP, a consultant and a neurologist.

When he passed away on 9 August 1995, Ayman's father, Dr Mohammed Rabie Al Zawahri was deputy chair of the department of akakeer --
pharmacology at Cairo's Ein Shams University. Although Ayman's two brothers are engineers, two out of Ayman's three sisters are doctors.

Typically, they married MDs bringing the total list of physicians belonging to the Al Zawahri clan to over 40.

As Osama Bin Laden's chief lieutenant, Ayman Al Zawahri is excluded from the above roll call. Instead, he features at the top of another list
"America's "Most Wanted".

In the quest of finding out why Ayman Al Zawahri changed course we inevitably come face-to-face with the two families that produced him. The Al Zawahris and the Azzams.

Born in June 1951, Ayman grew up in what was then a tiny suburb situated 10 kilometers south of Cairo. Maadi was then a bedroom community
known for its cosmopolitan temperament where the babble of a half dozen languages was heard at the local sporting club. Created by the British in 1906, the suburb was something of a United Nations, proud of its multi-ethnic and multi-racial composition.

Until the mid-1950s the town's shops were owned by Greeks, the sports club by the British and the inhabitants a mix of French, Italians,
Gemmans, Levantines and Egyptians. Maadi was severely secular where Christmas was sometimes more evident than Islamic holidays. The town had
more churches than mosques (two Catholic, one Anglican and one Coptic church, as opposed to one Sefardi synagogue and one mosque).

Equally important, and what still makes Maadi attractive today despite the downhill turn that came with Nasser's socialism, are two schools much in demand: The Cairo American College and the French Lycee Francais.

Although Ayman did not go to any of Maadi's foreign-language schools -- his family preferring to place him in the local state-run secondary school system--he must have come into contact with a variety of non-Egyptians in his youth. Were these encounters counter productive,
especially for a boy from a more traditional family and known to be somewhat of an introvert?

Perhaps Maadi's Zawahris and the provincial Azzams were themselves a speck out of place in this prosperous pseudo-westem enclave?!

Except for Ayman's father, most of the Zawahris lived in sections of Cairo far less urbane then Maadi where western women still stroll in
shorts and men jog year round. Decidedly, Ayman's child-hood home was on the wrong side of Maadi's tracks, smack in the town's more popular area, frequented mostly by shop-keepers and lower income state employees. Could
this disparity have affected him in his younger years?

On the right side of the tracks stood stately homes surrounded by gardens with manicured lawns. It was there that Ayman's more fortunate
Azzam cousins lived after moving to Maadi from Helwan a few years earlier. One of them was "great-uncle" Abdelrahman Hassan Azzam Pasha. Although a late comer to Maadi he chose for his twilight years a lovely colonial villa once occupied by a British general and a French author.

Today the villa is home to his son Engineer Omar Azzam and the pasha's affluent grandsons, owners of a trendy online publishing house in London.

The Azzam clan originated in the Arabian Peninsula. Like many other nomadic tribes they settled all over the Fertile Crescent (Greater Syria, Palestine and Egypt) some two or three centuries ago.

The Egyptian branch established itself in El-Shoubek Gharbi, Giza where family loyalty and tribal vendettas are still very present. One
such vendetta survived several generations of Azzams and was only settled
a few years ago.

Claiming ancestry to the Prophet Mohammed, the Egyptian Azzams produced several learned Al Azhar graduates. An excellent example is
Ayman's maternal grandfather, the late Dr Abdel Wahab Mohammed Azzam bey, born in 1893.

As a young man, he accompanied a group of students on scholarship to London, and thus became the honorary preacher at the Egyptian Embassy on South Audley Street. Obtaining his degree in Literature, he authored several books on Islam and later became dean of the School of Literature at Cairo University. Later, Professor Abdel Wahab Azzam was elected to the distinguished Arabic Language Academy and nominated Egypt's ambassador to Saudi Arabia (twice, 1948-51 and 1955-7) and Pakistan
1952-5. Upon retiring, he was given the task of setting up Riyad University in Saudi Arabia becoming its first administrator. When he died
in office on 18 January 1959, Azzam was befittingly eulogized by the elders of the Saudi Royal family.

If Professor Abdel Wahab Azzam enjoyed the honorific title of "bey", signifying a man of high standing and learning, his kinsman Abdel Rahman Azzam was honored on 27 December 1945 with the title of "pasha" by King Farouk himself. You could go no higher as far as titles went, during the 150 year old Egyptian monarchy.

Up until his death in Cannes in June 1976, Azzam Pasha was that other family icon exulted and revered by all subsequent generations of Azzams.
In a family that had contracted so many consanguine marriages, he was the clan's favored grandfather and perhaps to some of the younger ones, a role model.

Born in Giza in 1893 Abdel Rahman Pasha broke away with family tradition twice. First, when he chose to study medicine in London in lieu
of Al Azhar University and second, when he married outside the family,
tying the knot with the daughter of Khaled Abul Walid, a Libyan resistance leader.

During his internship at London's St.Thomas Hospital Abdel Rahman Azzam joined the Sphinx Society, a student organization calling for an
end to Britain's occupation of Egypt. There after he became in turn a defender of the Turks in the Balkans, a freedom fighter against the
Italians in Libya, a dissident against the British in Egypt, a Wafdist Party parliamentarian in the country's then-active legislature, a diplomat to Romania Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan and a statesman
responsible for the Social Affairs portfolio. Somewhere in the middle he wrote several works on Islam including "The Eternal Message of Muhammed" recently translated into English.

Azzam Pasha is however best remembered as the Arab League's first secretary general ( 1945-52) where he became a player in the historical
formation of the modern Middle East and the Islamic Ummah-nation.

On one of his travels to Saudi Arabia, Abdel Rahman Azzam Pasha encountered King Abdel aziz Ibn Saud. An old friendship was rekindled
culminating with the marriage of Azzam's daughter Muna, to Mohammed, the eldest son of King Faisal of Saudi Arabia (i.e. Azzam's son-in-law is the brother of the Saudi Minister of Foreign Affairs, Prince Saud Al Faisal).

Whereas several aspiring Azzams joined the Arab League during their uncle's heyday, the introduction of a direct family link to the Saudi monarchy enabled several younger Azzams to make it too the oil-rich kingdom. Others found sinecures in Saudi-financed organizations such as the non-interest bearing Faisal Islamic Bank and its regional affiliates. But Ayman Al Zawahri was not one of them. Was he out of the loop by virtue of his zealotry, or was it Ayman who shunned his sheltered' end more privileged relations?

It was while Faisal Islamic Bank expanded its local operations during President Sadat's "Open Door" economic policy in the late 1970s, that
Ayman Al Zawahri completed his graduate studies in Medicine. Sadat's Coca-Colaization of Egypt had started and colleges across the nation
brimmed with social unrest so that Islam became the countervailing force. This was particularly true of the School of Medicine as opposed to other departments at Cairo University.

The expanding phenomenon of the hijab-headscarf and the proliferation of the perceived Islamic dress code was seen at the time as a temporary
whim that would go away if ignored. "Bad wind blowing from Iran" remarked certain pundits in the late 1970s.

As campuses stewed, the political apparatus was busy elsewhere hammering out a peace treaty with Israel. Some of the dicey and much ballyhooed negotiations took place at the five-star Mena House Hotel at the foot of the Giza Pyra midst Covering these groundbreaking events as a
rookie stringer for America's ABC network and its visiting anchorman! Peter Jennings, was Ayman's maternal cousin Ali, a great-grandson of Al Azhar's Sheikh Rifa'a AI-Tahtawi (1801- 1873), founder of Egypt's modem cultural renaissance.

Ali and Ayman Al Zawahri's mothers are Azzam sisters. Looking back one realizes the chasm that separated the two twenty-something cousins.
Ali, the more gregarious of the two was open-minded and fun loving. Living next door to a handsome villa owned by the US Embassy since the
early 1950s, he was used to and felt comfortable around "khawagas"--foreigners.

If Ayman was the axiomatic religious introvert retreating further into religion, Ali blended well in Maadi and was anything but xenophobic.
Each season brought with it new projects--stringer for ABC, commerce in
Bahrain, selling Arabian horses from a makeshift stud farm in San Luis Obispo, California real-estate, antique cars, and still more business
ventures with the help of his cash rich Saudi-backed relations.

This was just about the time when Ayman Al Zawahri MD was serving time for his reported association with the Jihad that claimed
responsibility for President Sadat's October 1981 assassination. There had been a downside to the Camp David Accords (a peace treaty with
Israel) and the concomitant promises of renewed western economic support to a now spent regime. An entire generation of disaffected young
Egyptians had defected to the ranks of Islamist militants egged on by rising corruption at home and Khomeni's anti-American rumblings m Iran.

After three years in jail where even any confirmed secular will turn into a potent militant, Ayman Al Zawahri closed his modest surgery in the worn-out section of Maadi and left the country.

Some within Ayman's family claim he had been wrongly arrested. In a November 2001 CNN interview, a relation who is a lawyer, Mahfouz Azzam, stated that Ayman was "an outright humanitarian, hence the reason why he
joined the Red Crescent Society in Kuwait following his release from jail."

From Kuwait, or probably Saudi Arabia, Ayman made it to Pakistan about the time when Afghanistan was shrugging off its Soviet occupiers. It was while practicing medicine in Peshawar that Ayman Al Zawahri met his partner in terror Osama-Bin Laden. We know the rest.

Others within the Azzam family will mention in hushed terms that Ayman was indeed a member of the Jihad. That he had fumed "fundie" in his
late teens and that his 1984 release from jail was not so much because of the faimess of the judicial authorities, but more likely due to the
tribal Azzam network looking after its own. That soon after his release he was squirreled to Saudi Arabia and from there he initiated his
apocalyptic mission to "change" the world.

But Ayman Al Zawahri wasn't the only indicted Egyptian fugitive to skip town during the 1980s. Others made their way to Sudan, the UK,
Denmark and the USA. They were the newest wave of asylum seekers and "political" refugees. How they left Egypt and how they entered the above
countries remains unclear. One thing is for sure, in a decade where regular citizens have a hard time obtaining tourist visas, Egypt's
undesirables made it across the border with covert logistical support from third parties.

Whether Ayman Al Zawahri left Egypt from the Cairo Intemational Airport or from the backdoor, it is no secret the Azzam clan does not
lack men in high places. Unlike the medically-minded Zawahri fratemity, the Azzams include an [indicted] MP, a former govemor of Giza and several state counselors and prosecutors. Likewise, the clan is top heavy with
senior government administrators and diplomats. Ironically, Egypt's sitting Supreme State Security Court Chief Justice is himself a relation of Ayman Al Zawahri, his natty Maadi villa guarded round the clock lest he become the next victim of a terrorist attack. Several fatal shootings this last decade cost the lives of several members of the judicial and
legislation (including the speaker of parliament) as well as sundry police Officers in Upper Egypt and over 70 tourists in Luxor.

The rules of the game changed after 11 September. A nation perpetually in denial, unwilling to address the root causes of terrorism will have to come to terms with reality. Homegrown terrorists can no
longer be written off as lunatics or as the desperate and destitute pawns
of a more sinister "foreign" network. That cliche is dead.

These unwelcome changes reached Maadi as well. The once liberal township that produced three Egyptian Prime ministers, countless
scientists, magistrates, poets, authors and artists, is today weighed down with a terrorist's legacy of hatred. If the respectable Zawahris and the upright conservative Azzams unwittingly produced the second most
wanted man in the world; it will be diffcult to tell where the next ultimate terrorist will come from. Alas, as of now the enemy is from
within.

Footnote: Ayman's paternal grandfather is Sheikh Ibrahim Al Zawahri and
not All Azjar's Grand Imam Mohammed Al-Hamadi Al zawahri as mistakenly
reported by the BBC and a variety of US British and French publications."


[Source: Amman The Star in English -- Independent pro-establishment weekly newspaper. URL: http://www.star.com.jo]


Jihad Watch readers will note that the "Azzams" are declared to be the upright ones. Well, look at what passes for bieng "upright" by examining the bloodcurdling threats against Israel, and predictions of massacres that would outdo the Mongols, by Azzam Pasha, when he was not a street criminal, but rather as Secretary-General of the Arab League.

That tells us a good deal.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 7:29 PM

JadeDragoness,
Just words from the village "idit".

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 7:40 PM

Re: Robert Delancy and JadeDragoness.

Did someone just flush the toilet over at KOSKids or DU?

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 8:13 PM

Did someone just flush the toilet over at KOSKids or DU?

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

Posted by: JadeDragoness [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 8:46 PM

from the Thai front:

Three wounded in Thai bombing
From correspondents in Bangkok
27jan06
THREE people were injured today when a small bomb exploded in the courtyard of the Bangkok office building that houses the justice ministry, police said.

The bomb went off after midday at a food stall in the courtyard of the Software Park building.

The blast occurred just below the second-floor office of Thailand's leading forensics expert, pathologist Porntip Rojanasunan.

Police said the bomb caused little damage to the building, but destroyed part of the wall surrounding the property.

Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra said a special team would investigate the bomb attack but declined to give any details.


"It's really bad. I will ask my intelligence team to investigate. At this moment, I don't know what caused (the explosion) but of course, I will pay my special attention," he said.

He declined to speculate on a motive for the bombing, or to link it to unrest in the Muslim-majority south."

http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,17957464%255E401,00.html

Posted by: hammerhead [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 9:10 PM

Paul Clifford by Edward George Bulwer-Lytton was also "a unique book that defies anyone to come up with anything like it."

That doesn't mean it was any good.

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 9:17 PM

Hugh, Thanks for the dissertation on Al Zawahiri and the Azzams. I knew he was a doctor but didn't realize just how well connected the family is. I learn something new every day from this site. I would think his latest tape is the second warning to us infidels to convert before another attack on the US. It is amazing to me that there can be so much evil in one man.

Posted by: Caratacus [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 9:24 PM

As obl's personal physician, he will (God willing) become the first to search for the cure for a direct hit by a Hellfire missle.

Posted by: Infidel33 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 9:59 PM

"Bush, do you know where I am?

Everybody known for years that you're in northern Pakistan. Trouble is, things are strictly hands-off because, oh, somewhere around 99% of the population in that sad-sack "nation," virtually all of whom Moslems, support you and your pup tent buddy Osama.

We need to get Sean Penn over to Pakistan to analyze the situation for us. Straighten out all the misperceptions and whatnot. Maybe Sean can deliver his findings at the Oscars. I can see Tim Robbins and George Clooney and Clint Eastwood getting all teary eyed listening to Mr. Penn's report. That's be great.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 10:30 PM

Robert DeLancey-

War is hell. Or hadn't you heard.

Innocent people die.

They have their throats slit with box cutters by fascistic maniacs who think that their "God" loves mass murder in its name. Dogmatic creatures who board airliners with the intent of hijacking them and who then lie to whole planeloads of passengers to keep them as passive as sheep... men, women and children heading to long-needed vacations or to a new job or just a visit to a sick relative... and then mercilessly fly them into office buildings on purpose where thousands die horrifically. Innocent people who were just trying to earn a decent living, support their familes, give to their favorite charities, and pay their taxes.

They even get their heads cut off by 'religious' lunatics who then broadcast their sickening crimes over the airwaves and internet, and then the killers' co-religionists cheer the slaughter on the streets and gloat over it in internet cafes from Cairo to Jakarta.

We, on the other hand, regret the death of innocent people in battle. But understand the price of survival is that sometimes you need to destroy more than a six square foot patch of earth with the specifically-sought maniac standing in it.

In the future, that kind of accuracy may be possible. (Nanotechnology and GPS developments being what they are.) But, at this juncture in history, any delusional idiots who have dinner with terrorist masterminds and their henchmen have to understand that: they and their families are in the same zone of danger as the likes of Osama, Zarqawi, ad nauseam, and should avoid these s.o.b.'s like the plagues that they are.

Or would you rather we surrendered now to the conscienceless killers of Islamic Imperialism, and meekly 'hurt nothing' while these madmen overthrow the foundations of human rights and all intellectual, religious and creative liberties?

The choices are harsh. People suffer in such battles. But there is a useful phrase to remember:

Live free or die.

This conflict isn't tiddlywinks, it is a fight for the survival of a million years of human endeavor. The struggle to shake off the shackles of sanctimonious tyrants who think that they - and they alone- know the ineffable mind of God. And who are willing to kill everyone on earth to prove it to their dismal deity.

We, in the freedom-loving world, feel pangs of regret when luckless people are caught up in this war with such despotic criminals, and offer medical help, pay reparations, and even have willing lawyers ready to take up the victims' cause against our own government and military. And a Press ready to champion it.

Meanwhile, the enemies of civilization laugh at their innocent victims as "worthless infidel dogs" who deserve horrifyingly cruel and demeaning deaths (-and endless torments in hell afterwards, with Allah chuckling over their sadistic torments).

You may prefer 'peaceful' suicide. Or a 7th century prison for the spirit.

I'll take survival, freedom, and the future.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 11:23 PM


If the war is Iraq is not a war against Islam, then what the hell is it??????????

Per the Quran - Koran whatever, the book of Satan, Mohammed the Prophet was a:
Liar.
Thief.
Murderer.
Child molester and rapists.

Mohammed married, molested and raped a 9 year old girl child.

In America, Mohammed the child molester and child rapists would go to jail and die by the hands of the other inmates for being a child molester and child rapists.

And Mohammed created Allah in Mohammed's image which is as one of Satan's prostituting demons.

Which of these statements is not true??

The Texican.
It is better to fight and die free than to ever live in oppression.

Posted by: Texican [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 12:11 AM

The hole he blabbers from, can't be far from Pakistan. Remember Daniel Pearl? He was right in Karachi, even while he was in captivity.

Trust our 'allies' to stab in our back, with the dagger we sold them.

Bush needs to put Pakistan on notice.

Posted by: Alert [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 12:27 AM

When I read this, why do I keep thinking about Tokyo Rose?


Oh, Robert DeLancey, I thought we'd settled this. People who invite the world's #2 terrorist to dinner create targets out of themselves, especially when they do it in or near a war zone where said terrorist is being hunted. People like you argued against the Iraq war saying that AQ was the only legitimate target in response to 9/11, but when we agressively go after the perps and a few of their compadres get killed, you say we shouldn't do that either. What do you want?

Posted by: Big G In TX [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 1:08 AM

Hey Zawahiri, the only mistake Bush did was to use a simple economic bomb instead of using a thermonuclear bomb and wiping out the entire pak area which is the home of your type of people. As for the civilians who died there. some civilian they are to be living with you.

Posted by: adam [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 4:08 AM

well the little man in the cave said he is among friends.. well why does he have to move everyday? maybe he should call his next little movie clip, "Humpback Mountain" and then the Hollywood left loonies can nominate this new far reaching movie!

Posted by: Lulu [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 6:59 AM

The whole point of this rant appears to be "Nyah nyah nyah nyah nah-nah, you missed me, you missed me!"

Posted by: JadeDragoness at January 30, 2006 06:55 PM

JD: they may have missed daddy Zawahiri, but I understand they got one of his sons at Damdadola


As for Robert DeLooney from Canada...

...the host of that "party" was very well known to the Pakistani government for his connections to Al-Qaeda and the Taliban and five of his now deceased guests were mid- to high-level A-Q operatives, including, as I note above, one of Zawahiri's sons. But don't let inconvenient little facts like that get in the way of forming an opinion and spewing it as though you speak with any authority.

Posted by: waterdragon52 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 8:38 AM

they may have missed daddy Zawahiri, but I understand they got one of his sons at Damdadola

I doubt that would deter him much. Look at all the Palestinians who slaughter their children then dance about it. He's probably proud his son's a "martyr".

Posted by: JadeDragoness [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 9:31 AM

Nice post, profitsbeard.

Besides the unfortunate, but everpresent risk to innocents in combat zones, remember that the sub-human jihadi also loves to take advantage of our human conscience by using children as shields. The whole thing is designed for tactical advantage.

Apparently, Bush has finally decided to no longer inform the Paks when we go after these animals, so they will no longer get advanced warning from our "allies". As I've said before, the U.S. offer should be a full truce, and, what the hell, establishment of sharia law in the U.S., providing bin laden and al-zawahiri show up personally to sign the agreement. They know they can trust the infidel, don't they?

Posted by: Infidel33 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 10:30 AM

JadeDragoness:

Yes and no. He's now able to tell the gormless idiots that he's happy that his son is now a glorious shahid, as it only aids his advocacy to others to do so, but as a rule they don't like seeing their own children killed, especially if they didn't take out any "enemies" when they died. That's why Zarqawi is sleeping with a bomb belt. He must be concerned about the bounty on his head being pretty tempting, especially to all the tribespeople who hate him for killing off tribal leaders who wouldn't cleave to A-Q's side.

Posted by: waterdragon52 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 1, 2006 8:31 AM

Butchering is just fine with this guy as long as it is Muslims doing the killing...

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 1, 2006 10:57 PM

Yes and no. He's now able to tell the gormless idiots that he's happy that his son is now a glorious shahid, as it only aids his advocacy to others to do so, but as a rule they don't like seeing their own children killed,

True, look at Qaddafi.

Posted by: JadeDragoness [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 3, 2006 3:35 PM

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