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January 31, 2006

Fatwa against Danish troops

Cartoon rage reaches the troops in Iraq. From AFP, with thanks to Twostellas:

A FATWA appears to have been issued against Danish soldiers stationed in Iraq, the Danish defence ministry said today.

"I can confirm that we've heard about the fatwa from a reliable source in Iraq ... so we believe it's true," Defence Minister Soeren Gade's spokesman Jacob Winther said.

The report came amid rising Muslim anger over 12 cartoons published in Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten last September depicting the Prophet Mohammed....

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari summoned Denmark's ambassador today to hear Iraq's condemnation of the cartoons, including a portrayal of the prophet wearing a time-bomb shaped turban.
Islam considers any image of the prophet blasphemous....

Good thing we have a moderate government in Baghdad, eh?

Mr Winther said Danish troops had been put on higher alert, but that the military did not yet know how worried to be.

"We don't know what kind of a fatwa it is, whether it's just a religious ruling of a death threat or what it is," he said, adding: "I don't think it's good."

Yes, I wouldn't think so.

Posted by Robert at January 31, 2006 5:19 PM
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Where is the Iraqi Foreign Ministers condemnation of the Asyrian Christians in Iraq being killed, and not allowed to vote, and be no part of the new goverment?

Where is his condemnation of the cartoon illustrations done by muslims showing the killing of Jews, Americans and all Western civilizations.

Posted by: alaskan1000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 5:48 PM

slightly OT - but in case other jwatchers arent aware, spread this one far and wide...

"pallywood"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3330818905742409257&q=pallywood

Posted by: archduke [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 6:02 PM

Robert,

Oh geez, now a fatwa against the danish troops trying to help these retards rebuild their country. Misguided or not the Danes are, I beleive, genuine in their desire to help. If these people can't see that, or choose not to, or had a modecum of intelligence can they honestly point to ONE Danish soldier who actually drew any of these cartoons? No!! Hhmmm, strange indeed. Islam is religion of peace!

Well here is my take on it...all forces leave right now! Send in Cindy Sheehan, John Esposito, and Ibrahim Hooper and the whole lot from CAIR..they'll fix it right as rain!!

Seriously, let the mohamedans fight themselves to the death. I at one point did not did not agree with you when you said we should leave Iraq and let the place devolve into anarchy but I had my own reason...simply put it gave the Americans a stepping stone to the rest of the middle east to ensure despots were removed...ie. Assad in Syria and the mighty midgit in Iran. However, after seeing the absolute insanity that now reigns because of some stupid cartoons well, I take Roberts point without reservation.

I mean what else can we expect from persons who are essentially uneducated, agressive, fixated with their penises, hold allegiance to an epileptic peodiphile, undersexed and prone to bending over, on call mind you, five times a day...they deserve a buggering!! Let them all rot in their little muslim cess pools praying to a non existant allah.

I pity the fool who thinks helping these morons is going to bear fruit...

Regards

Posted by: Shunkleash [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 6:31 PM

Drawing a man is blasphemous because that man is God and cannot be represented otherwise it is a drawing of a man and not blasphemous.

I thought moslems are offended when called mohammadeans. Now they are acting as though they do worship mohammad.

What further illogical stupidity I cannot fathom is that one billion moslems are offended by a carton suggesting mohammad and islam is violent because he has a "time-bomb shaped turban".

Their response to this offence is violent. By violent I mean beating up employees of a danish company and desiring to use violence against danish tourists and soldiers.

So the cartoon was accurate and truth is offensive?

If someone drew a cartoon of me as a violent man and I threatened them with violence in response because I am peaceful and offended then either I should be sectioned or gain some basic education.

One billion people need some basic education in logic and how to be civilised is my conclusion from all this.

The global media is so scared that they don't even point out this basic logic. Oh well, I guess the media people don't have petulant children to deal with or they may have a clue about how to handle this situation.

Remember to join the crowd as 1 billion lemmings cannot be wrong... Clinton has spotted this and is running towards the cliff. Forwards, not backwards...

Posted by: exposesithlords [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 7:04 PM

If they don't like those cartoons perhaps they will like this one:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c286/fremen_warr
ior/muhammad.jpg

Posted by: lonely_soul [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 7:26 PM

OT~

I just want to say a word about Jill Carroll. People like her help the truth to come out of Gaza. Do muslims want that or do they want people to believe the previous post about Pallywood fake stories.

She seems like a genuinely innocent observer. It is disheartening to read some posters on other sites saying negative things.

If you are reading this story remember a journalist brought it to you. These blogs which collect them are wonderful but they do not write the stories. These journalists do. This site and others would be nothing without the journalist who is willing to risk everything to get the truth out to us. The newspapers are losing financially but it is still them that pay most journalists - the ones we read. The independant's like Ms. Carroll often are independant because the papers are laying off personnel due to these cutbacks. Ms. Carroll was laid off from the WaPo and, rather than change fields to something safer, followed her journalistic instincts and went where I would never go. Into the enemy's territory. Into a bad area where it is cheap for someone not on a major paper's payroll to survive between paychecks. Young and idealistic, indeed, brave and foolhardy, probably. The way most of us are or were in our twenties. I would not have approved of her being there if I was her parent but women in the western world do what they want because they are free. Someone her age reading the regular papers would not have known what we know about the cruel nature of these people. Foolish of her not to find out? No, I think she knew from the things I read, but too late, she was already there. A wrong turn indeed.

I just hope that others are doing what they can for her. Praying for her or working to find her or whatever can be done. But, please let's not be negative towards her. She was not there planting bombs, cutting throats or setting people up to be attacked or helping those that would do those things, unlike those whose exchange/release is being demanded for her safety.

Yes, I do realize that war is hell for those caught in it and that she didn't have to be there. Especially being a young woman. I can't believe her captors are working in a vaccuum. I know this same demand has been made many times before and I know the outcomes. None the less, her video wrenched my soul, weighing heavily on my mind. It bothers me alot to read the negative comments (not here, but I can't post where they are).

So, if you are a reader of news stories, please remember where and how they come to you and have a heart, unlike the terrorists and kidnappers we so despise.

~fan-of-Hugh

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 7:27 PM

And, yes, I know she was not in Gaza. I was referring to the video link above.

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 7:32 PM

original 12 cartoons.....sorry about copy and paste


http://www.newspaperindex.com/blog/2005/12/10/un-to-investigate-jyllands-posten-racism/

Posted by: eastcoastbuckeye [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 8:25 PM

"We don't know what kind of a fatwa it is, whether it's just a religious ruling of a death threat or what it is," he said, adding: "I don't think it's good."

Indeed -- and isn't this the nub of the matter for "infidels" in "infidel" lands -- isn't this why we're right to worry about Muslims in our midst... There seems to be no framework, even among Muslims, in the spheres of Islam to tell who will listen and take seriously the latest "pronouncement" or "fatwa" or whatever from a "religious scholar"... In fact, there doesn't seem to be any real formal framework for exactly who can issues these pompous edicts - - the local psychopath seems as qualified as the distant one to issue such death warrants -- and there does not seem to be any way of divining which Muslim, crackpot or otherwise, from among the citizens who identify themselves as Muslims, will take this "edict" seriously and act on it... The Muslims newlywed (male or female) who is only 22 and we never thought he/she would do something like this... The mother who gave birth just 6 months ago -- nevertheless -- she may just strap a bomb on herself and blow up a bunch of Jews, or a bunch of Americans, or a bunch of fill-in-the-blanks who got in the way, or were in the wrong place at the wrong time when the Muslim monster came feeding...

This blood drenched "religion" -- which really isn't a religion but an ideology of hatred thievery rape murder mayhem and world domination which cloaks itself as a religion...

Islam has no mechanism, it would seem, to help Muslim or non-Muslim differentiate between what is mortally dangerous and what is not.

Islam has no mechanism, it would seem, to help Muslim or non-Muslim differentiate between which Muslim from among the herd is mortally dangerous and which is not.

The venom of Islam must be removed from our domain. Islam doesn't belong in our secular pluralistic Judeo/Christian lands... As the vector of Islam, Muslims the spreaders of the venom and violence of Islam, they, and solely they are the instruments of destruction through Islam... It is fair to conclude that Muslims don't belong in our Western secular pluralistic Judeo/Christian lands... There's nothing intolerant about this... It's logical, it's reasonable, and it's essential if we wish to flourish, and live in peace in the modern world we have successfully created...

Why are we obligated to allow these hate filled Islamic bigots into our midst?
Why must we sit by while these hate filled Islamic bigots dismantle our culture, undermine our foundations, sully our accomplishments, and erode the very rights and institutions which have brought so much invention, wealth, art, science, and philosophy to the world?

Why do we continue to let them attempt to blow out the flame of everything we have accomplished?

Why are we living in fear in our own homelands because they are here? How much longer will we permit this to continue?

Posted by: jsla [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 8:41 PM

Robert,

Since you are also a "religious scholar" why not issue your own fatwa against any country helping these people set up their Shari'a state?

Oh that's right, you can't issue a fatwa. How about a skinnywa instead?

Posted by: Provoslavni [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 10:27 PM

Why are we living in fear in our own homelands because they are here?~jsla

I'll make two guesses.
1. Oil dependance.

2. Everyone seems to know a moderate muslim that is their friend and they can't imagine doing anything to them or anyone like them. How long will this last? A generation or two. Until the demography changes. Then, dhimmi, like it or not. Will the moderate friend stand up then. The aggressive leaders won't let them even if they want to.

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 10:41 PM

So Borg, I guess that means that we will be assimilated! Resistance is futile! =)
I say screw that, I will resist to my last dying breath and will never bow down towards mecca!
I am secure in my faith and need nothing from Islam.
I do have a moderate friend and yes he does not advocate violence in spreading Islam, but then again he was chased out of Pakistan for being "moderate". He feels blessed to be in this country where he can speak his mind, even if he is wrong! =)God bless the USA for a while longer please!
Well, the Danes need to plan a response that is five times more violent than anything that comes at them due to this fatwa.
Please will someone turn on the lights in that place, the mushrooms have taken over!

Posted by: disciple [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 1, 2006 1:19 AM

Sooner or later each and every country and individual that dares to resist Islam will have a fatwa pronounced against them. In my mind, this is a badge of honor.

Posted by: epg [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 1, 2006 8:14 AM

I do have a moderate friend and yes he does not advocate violence in spreading Islam, ~disciple

So he advocates a demographic takeover instead...the end result will be the same.

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 1, 2006 8:58 AM

""Yes, you or your descendants, should you decide to have any, will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. =(
~Mo and his followers, even his moderate followers....""

Those who belonged to the nazi party but did not take up guns or actually go around arresting anyone still felt the same as those that did, n'est pas? Just more moderately so. Not wanting violence but hoping for the same end result...
I hear about moderates who are just hanging on to their religion by their fingernails...they should have let go...IMHO...

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 1, 2006 9:09 AM

Everyone seems to know a moderate muslim that is their friend and they can't imagine doing anything to them or anyone like them.

It's hard not to have Moslem friends in England. They're decent people in just about every way, except for being irreconcilably racist. I ask them to actually read the koran, then compare it to the bible. But they just laugh or scowl at the suggestion. They don't need to read. Their Imam's told them what they need to know, and if i say anything to the contrary then i've obviously been compromised by the Joos. It's Hopeless.

And when the Queen passes on, Britain will be an Islamic Kingdom, with a Mohummadan as the head of the Church! The UIK, if you will. And once all objection has been extinguished, peace will reign, Islam-stylee. No art. No music. No video games. No free media, & no friggin problems. Sorted!

Posted by: Animus Fox [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 1, 2006 10:50 AM

Animus Fox~ Then you, too, will be absorbed and say- "We Are Borg".

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 1, 2006 6:00 PM

Animus, they read the Koran, and then have no use for anything else and will never participate in any logical debate. Circular reasoning, the koran says so, mohammed says so, because the koran says so, because mohammed says so...ugh!
Borg, my Muslim friend just likes to talk about his beliefs. When I finally hit him with debates he cannot argue against, he just says "well we both believe in God and it is everyone else who is missing the point", in reality of course he is missing the point.
We will not be "assimilated" into Islam, there are too many people in the red states! =)
We will "engage" the enemy, spiritually, intellectually and physically. Make it so!


Posted by: disciple [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 1, 2006 9:32 PM

Disciple:
Animus, they read the Koran, and then have no use for anything else and will never participate in any logical debate.

Logical debate is not Islamic! That kind of thinking was rejected by Muslims centuries ago. When will the West accept that recognition?

Posted by: WatchfulEye [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 1, 2006 9:42 PM

Borg: I'm told i've already converted. But i haven't said the 'magic words' yet (there's no dog but Rover IMHO).

Posted by: Animus Fox [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 2, 2006 2:22 PM

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