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I am scheduled to appear on BBC TV to talk about the cartoon controversy this morning sometime after 11AM EST. I am not in Britain at the moment and don't have more details on where to find the program in question. Nevertheless, that is the plan at this point, and British readers of Jihad Watch may want to tune in...somewhere.
Posted by Robert at February 2, 2006 9:46 AM
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what's the name of the program? the bbc regularly archives its programs in realplayer format, so that you can see it again after broadcast.
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at February 2, 2006 9:55 AM
if its an interview, i would guess its not the main evening news, as they dont usually have interviews.
my best guess is that its newsnight
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsnight
either that , or BBC News 24 maybe.
but Spencer on the "islam is the religion of peace" BBC? wow... i'm stunned.
at February 2, 2006 10:01 AM
Someone from the BBC is paying attention to Robert's books and/or websites. A hopeful sign.
Posted by: Charles Martel at February 2, 2006 10:01 AM
Exactly.
I just pushed a sick sprog off a video to get a quick look BBC News 24. Anybody finds out more, post it quick!!! Please.
at February 2, 2006 10:04 AM
i think they couldnt ignore the cartoon rage issue.
it's the lead story now:
http://news.bbc.co.uk
i bet the dhimmis at the bbc just dont know how to handle this one. their favourite victim group (muslims) are being, shock , horror, "intolerant".
Posted by: archduke at February 2, 2006 10:06 AM
They just published this comment on have Your Say
"If I met anyone responsible for the publishing of those shameful cartoons, I would shoot him without hesitation.
Karim, Cairo"
And equally quickly pulled it. How many Karims are there in Cairo? Do you think there are 80ish?
Meanwhile the order of the most recommended comments has changed since last night, but all the leading comments criticising Islam remain and their recommendations now stand at 700+. I think this is the most there have ever been.
at February 2, 2006 10:16 AM
*First post from a long time lurker - I love this site*
There are currently over 700 posts about the Cartoon issue on the BBC website: http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=1&threadID=904&start=0&tstart=0&edition=1&ttl=20060202152221&#paginator
I've read the majority and most people - to my relief - are acutely aware of how extreme the Islamic reaction has been to this, and how there is no ability to criticise Islam without fear of personal attack and violence. I really hope this issue is a Damascene event in UK and EU politics, and people actually stand up to this cruel and totalitarian ideology, rather than bow down to it.
On a site note, dhimmi BBC today: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/inourtime.shtml
Also, the BBC have a 'listen again' feature which is excellent, so any program Robert is on we should be able to view from their website.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/progs/listenagain.shtml
All the best
AP
Posted by: mazztr at February 2, 2006 10:27 AM
Spencer on the BBC? What? On the BBC and actually talking and stuff?
(Picks himself off the floor, checks his medication and pinches himself)
Posted by: TAoL at February 2, 2006 10:32 AM
it is incredible indeed, taol. somethings in the air. like European outrage at islamic intolerance.
at February 2, 2006 10:37 AM
I was rather stunned myself, wow. Hope it goes well Mr Spencer, I look forwrad to seeing it. And these comments on the BBC have been pretty good.
I posted this at Harrys Place:
Just so you know exactly what your dealing with, see these words
"The Islamic religion does not allow offensive remarks by both Muslims and Non-Muslims."
This was written at the end of an article on Al Jazeera, which means that you and I am not allowed to say anything that may be deemed to be offensive to Muslims, whatever that may mean, which is totally at the whim of a clerics reading of the Quran and various hadiths, which can be interpretated in so many ways!
"DOES NOT ALLOW" It's rather in your face isn't it, and all this window dressing by people like Jamal does not hide the very simple truth in all of this, ISLAM DOES NOT ALLOW...
http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_ID=10554
at February 2, 2006 10:38 AM
Al Jazeera seem to have pulled that article, shame it was a pretty good exposee of a so called moderate Muslim...
Posted by: Daffersd at February 2, 2006 10:41 AM
The main offices of the BBC have Muslim only, men only, prayer rooms. This is according to Chris Hitchens. It's easy to assume that the BBC is dominated by godless leftists but they make sure to accommodate their favorite religion because it's a 3rd world religion. In their minds it's the default religion of the oppressed
http://www.muslimwakeup.com/blog/archives/2003/06/poor_wolfowitz.php
In one column about Wolfowitz, Hitchens manages to:
(1) lambast the BBC for providing prayer rooms to Muslim staff: "I had, during my appointment at the BBC offices in London, already had to pass a door with a sign reading 'Male Prayer Room,' which means that the British taxpayer is already funding not just religious observance on public property but the sexual segregation of same," and
at February 2, 2006 10:49 AM
I have just seen you on BBC News 24 Hours, the freeview digital channel.
Oh well done!
I wish they had mentioned this site, but you can't have everything.
But to see you described as a Scholar of Islam and your knowledge given respect on UK TV does my heart good.
I appreciated your mentioning the London bombs as a priority and hope that you are happy with the assistance you were given.
News 24 tends to repeat itself throughout the day so it should be worth tuning in again.
at February 2, 2006 11:44 AM
I'm sure your comments will be censored. Or you will be represented as an extremist who stokes up hatred against the 99.9999 percent of peaceful, moderate muslims.
Posted by: restitutor orbis at February 2, 2006 11:46 AM
We need a link of this interview.
Posted by: WiredDragoon at February 2, 2006 12:31 PM
Am I alone in finding the BBC being party to aggression against denmark because they were saying "danish" to describe the cartoons.
I think they were done by a newspaper not a manufactureer of food or even, necessarily, by danish people.
I think it is a poor show to portay all of denmark as cartoonists because that helps the "demonstrators" feel accurate when they are burning danish flags and threatening to kill random danes.
If they can call the cartoons danish why can't they call islam violent? Answer because calling islam violent may jeopardize the well being of those millions of non violent moslems.
Calling the cartoons danish jeopardizes the life of millions of non artistic danish.
shame on the bbc.
Posted by: exposesithlords at February 2, 2006 12:33 PM
Old habits die hard and the BBC are hedging their bets. They had a young bruvver from MPACUK (Muslim Public Affairs Committee) talking by link at the same time as the editor of Die Welt. The editor spoke very well, and told Bruvver MPACUK that he was prepared to give a personal apology him as an individual, from him as an individual, if he was personally offended, but that he had no regrets about publishing the cartoons as it is a matter of free speech to criticise and be irreverent. That's my precis, from memory.
The BBC read out some of the e-mails from Have you Say from people who were offended. And shortly they will be live from Luton Central Mosque. Remember the London bombers left their stash of explosive in Luton Station car park, to be collected by ?????
I hope they repeat the interview with Mr Spencer, really a later slot would have been better.
at February 2, 2006 12:43 PM
I hope the interview is on BBC News 24 late tonight, as I don't have any of the extra channels.
What I find amazing is that no Jew threatened to bomb the Independent newspaper, nor any Arab paper when the Dave Brown cartoon was published.
http://backspin.typepad.com/backspin/2003/11/evolution_of_an.html
Posted by: Jerusalem Posts at February 2, 2006 1:19 PM
shiva
I don't support the BNP -- their platform or their long-term objectives -- and I know several posters here are sensitive to the notion that the party in any way, represents a legitimate political option to deal with the growing threat of Da'wa and Jihad in the UK BUT...
it would be intellectually dishonest to view the BBC video entered into evidence at trial and say that -- with the exception of the reference to "Asians" -- Nick Griffin is saying anything materially different about Islam than the arguments posted daily on JW/DW, other anti-Jihad websites, and even articles in mainstream newspapers like The Telegraph.
The Crown Prosecution -- representing the Blair government -- clearly believed it had an easy target and could make an example of Griffin and the BNP that would put the chill on harsh criticism of Islam. It would seem that the average Brit -- absent from BBC interviews but likely to sit on a jury -- is not keen to see free debate suppressed.
Posted by: Charles Martel at February 2, 2006 1:54 PM
the average Brit is wondering , if the BBC went to so much undercover trouble with regards to the BNP (the court case comes out of undercover filming of private BNP meetings) - why didnt they do the same in the mosques. for at the same time while they were filming the BNP, the London bombers were meeting up in the Mosques of Leeds and Bradford.
the end result is that 60 brits died, thanks to political correctness.
at February 2, 2006 2:16 PM
Robert (and more importantly, his ideas) keeps selling more books, appearing in larger venues, getting more exposure. His appearance on the BBC is the best news of the day. What's next, a front page article on the New York Times? The message is getting out, the tide is getting ready to turn.
Posted by: special_guest at February 2, 2006 2:40 PM
The Crown Prosecution Service said it will proceed with a retrial of Nick Griffin and Mark Collett over the outstanding charges. I have never been able to get my head round how the CPS decides when to prosecute and when not.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/4672792.stm
Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at February 2, 2006 2:45 PM
"The Islamic religion does not allow offensive remarks by both Muslims and Non-Muslims."
This was written at the end of an article on Al Jazeera, which means that you and I am not allowed to say anything that may be deemed to be offensive to Muslims, whatever that may mean, which is totally at the whim of a clerics reading of the Quran and various hadiths, which can be interpretated in so many ways!
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Posted by: Daffersd at February 2, 2006 10:38 AM
...not about Islam or Mohammed at least. I don't think I need to repeat here what they have to say about the "infidels" though. It's open season on any and all from the Muslim POV.
at February 2, 2006 4:37 PM
www.bbc.co.uk/newsnight
talking about the cartoon er um crisis
there is a watch live button
Posted by: Al.R.O'Ackbar at February 2, 2006 5:18 PM
What a shame for us ... the Beeb actually has bigger ones than any US network.
This just in from CNN:
"CNN has chosen to not show the cartoons in respect for Islam."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02/02/cartoons.wrap/index.html
So they agree that showing the cartoons is disrespectful of Islam ... that these other publishers are blasphemers? Seeing as how they have never had a problem reprinting "blasphamies" against all other religions (Piss Christ, pictures of religious icons being spit on, burned, etc.), can I take this to mean that Islam is the ONLY religion that CNN respects?
More likely --- they care more about the bottom line than free speech, and are cowards with both.
Posted by: dry_heavz_4_alla at February 2, 2006 6:16 PM
I just saw ABC nightly news and to my surprise they showed the cartoons. All and all the coverage was very good, a surprise from ABC.
Posted by: El Cid at February 2, 2006 6:58 PM
Glad to see that Drudge has posted the mohammad bomb head on his website.. he is usually the first main US website to post news.. the others follow, ie Fox, ABC etc. the more they protest over very ordinary cartoons, the more they show themselves off as fanatics... but then we will mostly hear these are only the deranged few muslims...l think the general public can see beyond that!
Posted by: Lulu at February 2, 2006 6:59 PM
Just saw Robert On BBC, Bravo! well done!
I feel progress is being made and a great deal of credit must go to sites like JW and DW, you guys are great and helping inform the world about Jihad and Da'wa.
God bless you!
Posted by: El Cid at February 2, 2006 7:04 PM
I did a doubletake when he came on. They were covering the cartoon fiasco, then they cut to RS, plugged his work, stressed the risks he was taking and let him spell out what's happening. It was elating. Thank you Robert, Hugh & all.
Minutes later Nick Griffin was saying "..the UK will soon have to decide if it is to stay a Christian, secular society or become an Islamic state". Later video from the investigation showed him explaining "what the right arm holds". Tonight James Robins reported from inside a mosque, and gesturing towards the walls and decor, noted that no imagery - even animal - was allowed, much less depictions of Mo. The message was "art is unislamic" and "Mohummadanism is incompatible with free speech". MCB and CAIR spokesmen were interviewed & hung themselves.
It seems like a significant waypoint has been passed this week. The truth is dawning on people. Challenges have been met. There's a wave of quiet solidarity.
-exposesithlords: Too true. At one point they showed a print-out of a cartoon, but emphasized it had been copied from a Danish website... They could have got it anywhere, it was embarrassing.
at February 2, 2006 10:21 PM
Darn missed it... I generally dont watch BBC crass. Anybody got a link to the transcripts of the show?
Posted by: Vikrant_Camberleykar at February 3, 2006 12:25 AM
Which programme was Robert on - Newsnight or News 24 ? Is it available on their playback facility ?
at February 3, 2006 5:44 AM
I saw him on News24 at about 10 to 5 in the afternoon. I couldn't find any clip on the BBC website when I looked later that evening, just highlights from the 6 oclock news. The interview with the editor of Die Welt was worth a look as well.
It may have gone on later.
at February 3, 2006 6:01 AM
Thursday's Newsnight has a discussion about 20 mins long in the Playback area - haven't had time to listen yet, but will later. It seems the Die Welt Editor is on there.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4675098.stm
Posted by: mazztr at February 3, 2006 6:32 AM
There was a link to the programme, but they did not show the whole programme, Roberts part was missed off. Perhaps one of the higher leval PC's managed to block it as they did not want the overseas clients to view Robert speaking?
Posted by: Daffersd at February 3, 2006 8:32 AM
I don't think the interview was on Newsnight, but some other BBC news programme.
Posted by: Al.R.O'Ackbar at February 3, 2006 8:57 AM
No it was not Newsnight.
It was on News 24 at 4.50pm, live from secure undisclosed locationville. Only they didn't call it that.
I fully expected it to be repeated throughout the evening, "and earlier we spoke to Robert Spencer etc" The BBC are so fanatical about advertising that I never expected any of the books to be mentioned.
at February 3, 2006 9:46 AM
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