Sheds a whole new light on the concept of "cut-up" doesn't it...?

Or should I have said "Shreds a whole new light..."

Posted by: jsla at February 6, 2006 3:47 PM

"You can stop travelling to their countries and not allow them to come to ours."

If only.

Posted by: pr126 at February 6, 2006 3:50 PM

What's this, revenge for fun and prophet?

Posted by: jewdog at February 6, 2006 4:11 PM

i hope to go that the Danish soldiers are getting beefed up with a bit of hardcore U.S. marine protection.

this is getting nasty. i'd bet that the price of a Danish soldiers head has suddenly jumped in price.

Posted by: archduke at February 6, 2006 4:25 PM

argh .. cant edit...

i'll try again.
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i hope to god that the Danish soldiers are getting beefed up with a bit of hardcore U.S. marine protection.

this is getting nasty. i'd bet that the price of a Danish soldiers head amongst the Jihadists and their associated "guns for hire" has gone up.

Posted by: archduke at February 6, 2006 4:26 PM

I wonder what would happen to the muslim countries if ALL the western countries just pulled out and boycotted the whole damn place. I wonder, could they live on oil since that's all those places have in the way of natural resources. This is getting beyond ridiculous - they're cartoons for pities sake, just like the cartoons we see everyday in Western newspapers.

Posted by: CelticCoyote at February 6, 2006 4:33 PM

Why are we still in Iraq? What conceivable good can the Infidel world derive from making things better for people in Iraq, and from preventing them from being at each other's throats?

Posted by: Hugh at February 6, 2006 4:44 PM

I agree with these poor guys. They've been insulted. They should stop trading with us, stop visiting, why, even the ones who are here should just leave.
That would show us! What would we do if every muslim just left? A day without muslims. Why that would
just be awful, wouldn't it?

Posted by: American at February 6, 2006 5:14 PM

Denmark, and the other countries in NATO (as an act not merely of solidarity, but one required as a response to an attack on a fellow NATO member) should simply end all visas for all nationals of countries where support for attacks on Denmark has been observed, either in the statements of the government or its major institutions, including the press. Actual attacks need not have taken place -- support for such attacks elsewhere is enough.

Simply end all visas.

It will completely revolutionize the relations between the aggressive Islamic world and the largely appeasement-minded West.

Just do it. And watch how Muslims change their spots, quite quickly.

Or don't. It hardly matters. All the Arab and Muslim states have to offer is oil and gas, and they have to sell it. It's all they have. It is the only thing from their world that we require. And we get it the same way we get gasoline at the nearby gas station. We simply pay for it. We do not do the gas station owner any special favors. We need do no favors to Saudi Arabia, or Syria, or Iraq, or Iran, or any other Muslim nation. Nor need any European country appease, in any way, the Muslims in its midst. It is they who have to demonstrate their loyalty to the Infidel nation-state, and rather quickly if they intend to remain.

Posted by: Hugh at February 6, 2006 5:16 PM

"You can stop travelling to their countries and not allow them to come to ours."

IF ONLY!

Internment and deportations NOW!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at February 6, 2006 5:42 PM

internment = concentration camps. for any European politician to propose that will be political suicide.

secondly internment means that muslim women who agree, in secret, with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, will be caught up in that.

thats not a good way to go.

no - the coming war will be a smart one. we'll have to use our heads and come up with new way of dealing with this, rather than the clumsy ways of our past.

Posted by: archduke at February 6, 2006 6:06 PM

Yes, Islam is truly a tolerant, peaceful religion (NOT!).

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at February 6, 2006 6:07 PM

"You can withdraw your money from their banks and investments and cut their life's blood, which is oil.

"You can stop travelling to their countries and not allow them to come to ours.

[Posted from above]

AND THEN WE CAN CUT OFF THE FOOD AND MED. TO YOUR COUNTRYS Will see which one gives up first??

As for you not travling to the West this is a GOOD thing for us all you stay in your land maybe we might get along better if you stay on your side of the fence..

We will also pull all those westerners who work in your country's yes no help from the west no doctors no new cars no new anything better look real close at what you say because we are ready to be through with those who cut peoples heads off with their hands tied behind their backs we see you as cowards!!

Does this mean that the mulsums from the west will be coming to live with you so better get ready for all those who live in Europe they will be needing housing and food and water and sence the French mulsums don't work they will fit right in I believe they are about 5 million and 2 million from America and well there are those from the Rest of Europe and Russia and China Heard about 20,000,000 better get building those homes and tell them how to live in that 130degree heat they will get use to it I'm sure!!

Yes I think we can work with this guy we will use our Grains for our Cars and Europe will use their Feilds for the same and of course all the tec stuff will have to stop their exports and help But like you say this will help you??

And we can't forget the Bird Flue is comming so there will be no trade there either it all makes sence to me!!

Just think of the lifes it will save to have all mulsums live in mulsum lands no worry's about CARTOON No worry about being offened by Santa Claus or the 10 comements I see a WIN WIN HERE Of course it will be a sting for us both BUT we will get over it!!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

PS
You might have a little trouble with those who lived well in the west working for the UN but I sure you will whip them into shape likty split!!!

And all that realestate in the West you leave not to worry we will find a use for it??

Posted by: Catherine at February 6, 2006 6:13 PM

You go Hugh,

Yes, it is a commodity situation with their countries. We should put it back on that level.

I would like the West to know that we can't negotiate with the radicals i.e. every Muslim.

We need to get strong and not give in to appeasement. That is their trump card, let's get tough West. HOO RAAH.

OK, the US Marine in me had to come out.

M.

Posted by: miku at February 6, 2006 6:55 PM

There have been reports that the CartoonRage (tm) has been orchestrated, and that Iran is doing the orchestrating. If so, by burning foreign embassies and threatening to cut civilians into pieces and generally blow stuff up, they are ratcheting it up pretty quickly.

They are talking very loudly, and if they don't have a large stick to back it up, they will soon get their feelings hurt.

Why are they so aggressive (even for them) suddenly? One has to wonder if they have gotten further on their WMD development than the IAEA would have us believe.

Posted by: special_guest at February 6, 2006 7:20 PM

Are there specific passages from the Koran, ahadtih, siras, or tarihk that the radical Muslims are citing as justification for their actions?

I am aware of ahadith that describe how Muhammad authorized the asassinations of antagonistic poets, but are such examples cited by radical Muslims? Are there scripture that moderate Muslims could cite in order to deligitimize the actions of the radical Muslims in this instance?

Posted by: Dilophos at February 6, 2006 9:05 PM

Who is it they're worshipping again?

1. Allah?
2. Mohammed?
3. Islam, and by extension, themselves as Muslims?

I'd say 2 and 3. Ironically, Allah seems to be the "third wheel" in all of this.

Posted by: Shinoliite at February 6, 2006 9:26 PM

jacketsfan-

Be sure to wash with iodine!

(Luckily his teeth were knocked out by a sword chop in battle, or you might be in for an enamelled Islamic surprise.)

Posted by: profitsbeard at February 6, 2006 10:33 PM

Decorum in humor: One should have to think, even a nanosecond, to be sure another has indeed headed in that direction.

Where one is inclined toward that province of discourse, it's an invariable attribute of a master debator.

Posted by: Shinoliite at February 6, 2006 10:49 PM

Personally, I hope the muslims keep up this insane behavior over these silly cartoons. I believe it helps show the true face of Islam. Thuggish and murderous.

Canuck

Posted by: Sheik Canuck (swt) at February 6, 2006 11:08 PM

With each new video clip of the hateful muslims burning yet another flag or another country's embassy, I can't help but think, "Good Lord, just how stupid can these barbaric islamic bastards get?"

Their ignorance is SO overwhelming, it's simply difficult to comprehend - that in this day and age, ANYONE could be that retarded - but then, the ignorance of islam never ceases to amaze me… After all, they worship a murderous pedophile!

With each burned flag, with each burned embassy, with each beheaded innocent, with each murdered civilian, my hatred for islam and for every Goddamned muslim grows greater and greater until hatred itself becomes overwhelming.

You are the epitome of evil and are of (spit) utmost DISGUST to civilized people that want nothing more than to enjoy life, family, work and development of technology for the advancement of civilization and the free world.

Advancement of technology and the enrichment of civilization are anathema to islam…

D

Posted by: Den_Man at February 6, 2006 11:16 PM

archduke writes:
"internment = concentration camps. for any European politician to propose that will be political suicide."

How about just deportation/expulsion then?

"secondly internment means that muslim women who agree, in secret, with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, will be caught up in that."

That's too bad. But it's not a good enough reason to keep mohammadans here. It's like being held
hostage. If the women or men want to stay, they
should just abandon islam. Ali did.

"thats not a good way to go."

Actually, it is. I agree that the camps would
leave a bad taste, but we're talking internment for the purpose of deportation, not German style
killing camps.

I don't see why the West is required to commit suicide. The fundamental principle of all human
civilization the closest thing to "Natural Law",
is the principle of reciprocity, crudely described as "The Golden Rule", but much better
described by modern scientists as "Tit for Tat".

At this point, the mohammadans have run up a
really big tab, and deportation is mild payment
compared to the bill reciprocity would suggest!

Posted by: American at February 6, 2006 11:55 PM

Shinoliite-

Trying a little reverse psychology. (Or, implosive exaggeration.)

Ding-dong the which is dead?

(Which means, I agree.)

Posted by: profitsbeard at February 6, 2006 11:57 PM

Profitsbeard - LOL.

And... "Implosive exaggeration!"

Don't be surprised to get a job offer from The People That Brought You Post-Modern Discourse.

http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo

Keep hitting "reload/refresh." ;)

Posted by: Shinoliite at February 7, 2006 12:30 AM

Does anyone else think that it is odd that these protests really intensified after Denmark apologized?

I guess they should not have apologized.

Posted by: Mr Ape Pig at February 7, 2006 8:45 AM

The emperor is naked:
www.anglicansforisrael.com/docs/2006/02/06/dangerous-hypocrisy-world-reactions-to-the-danish-cartoons/

"Dangerous Hypocrisy: World Reactions to the Danish Cartoons
by Roberta Seid, PhD and Roz Rothstein

Westerners are agonizing about whether the twelve Danish cartoons of Mohammed
showed unforgivable prejudice against Islam. Enraged Muslims in Europe, the
Middle East and Asia are rampaging in protest against the cartoons, demanding
apologies, boycotts, blood and even beheadings. But in all this, the real
outrage is overlooked: the sheer hypocrisy of these reactions.

These angry Muslims demand that the world honor Islamic symbols and
sensitivities, but adamantly refuse to grant the same to other religions. They
don’t just draw satirical cartoons or limit their insults to words and
discriminatory laws. They have intentionally and regularly desecrated and
destroyed religious icons, holy sites and houses of worship sacred to other
faiths. Yet the world, including progressive democracies whose core ideal is
tolerance, has remained silent about these assaults on other religions.

Why was there no effective protest when the Taliban destroyed pre-Islamic
masterpieces, including the almost 2000-year-old 165-foot statue of Buddha?
Where was the outrage when Muslims destroyed churches in Indonesia, Pakistan,
India, Thailand, Iraq and Sudan, and 175 Nigerian churches in 2004?[1] Where
was the indignation when armed Palestinian Muslim terrorists forced their way
into the Church of the Nativity in 2002 for 38 days and shot bullet holes in
the walls and used the pages of Christian holy books as toilet paper?[2] Why
was there no outcry when Palestinian Muslims repeatedly attacked Jewish holy
sites, such as Rachel’s Tomb, or when they destroyed Joseph’s Tomb, burned its
prayer books, Bibles and religious articles and converted the age-old Jewish
holy site into a mosque? Why was the world silent between 1948 and 1967 when
Jordanian Muslims destroyed all 57 of Jerusalem’s ancient Jewish temples,
libraries and yeshivas and used the sacred stones for urinals and sidewalks?

The world has been strangely silent, too, when Muslims have gone beyond
attacking holy symbols and have persecuted and murdered men, women and children
for the crime of not being Muslim. The Laskar Jihad movement of Indonesia has
killed 5,000 Christians and made a half-million of them homeless. In Egypt,
Copts are persecuted and dozens in el-Kusheh were killed in January 2000 alone.
Muslim youth rampaged in Nigeria in 2002 and killed 100 Christians and injured
200 others.[3]

How can Muslims demand that their sensibilities be respected when they assault
other religions and don’t even begin soul-searching to rethink their own
intolerance and religious prejudices? Why aren’t Western democracies
consistently denouncing this violent behavior? Is it because they have double
standards and believe Islam must be treated differently than Christianity,
Judaism, Buddhism and other religions? Is it because they have become so
secular that they see no reason to defend or protect the historic religions of
the West? Or is it because they are intimidated by the threats of violence
against them if they speak out? Do they fear they will share the fate of the
brutally murdered Theodore Van Gogh or the fate of Salman Rushdie who was
forced into hiding after a fatwa was issued that condemned his novel and called
for his execution.

But something far more profound and ominous has been exposed by the cartoon
incident. The radical Muslim message is clear: We can insult your religions. We
can desecrate and destroy your holy places and kill your co-religionists, but
you cannot do something as trivial as publishing satirical drawings of our
sacred symbols. Only our religion should be honored and respected. The world
must defer to our rules and sensitivities. If you violate them, we will erupt
in riots and violence and call for your deaths.

In short, the incident has laid bare radical Islam’s impassioned battle to
dominate the West and impose Islamist values and a radical Islamist world
order. They are trying to get us to respect Islam according to their rules not
through persuasion but through intimidation and violence. Those who do not obey
will be subject to a savagery and rage that radical Muslims will
unapologetically justify in the name of Allah and Mohammed. Anti-Western
governments like Iran and Syria and radical Islamists will cynically fan the
flames.

We are face-to-face not just with hypocrisy, but also with radical Islamists’
stark bid for religious dominance. Let us hope that democracies and moderate
Muslims have the clarity, self-confidence and strength to win this battle of
the 21st century.

——————————————————————————–

[1] www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2003/002/36.82.html
and
www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=4609
[2] “‘Greedy Monsters’ Ruled Church,” Times, May 15 2002, p. 1
[3] jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/10429.htm

Posted by: Polish infideless at February 7, 2006 8:52 AM

I heard this on the radio this morning on my way to work - iran has come up with a solution to the Danish cartoons - hold their own cartoon contest to show the Holocaust. Now that is such a childish idea, sounds like something a bunch of four or five year olds would come up with (sorry to the 4 and 5 year old kids, I'm not insulting you). What will come after that? More animalistic antics like jumping up and down on burning flags (looking like a bunch of monkeys by the way) or jumping out of burning embassy windows?

Posted by: CelticCoyote at February 7, 2006 9:46 AM

What is so surprising about the cartoon issue - is how upset Muslims have become. And that they see it as some big conspiracy against them.

They live in such isolation socially - just bathing the wounds of their own grievances - they can't see that the rest of the world thinks that they 'are' violent. And that this violence stems from the teachings or the permission given to them by the Prophet.

Isn't Bin Laden trying to emulate the Prophet?

Then let’s do the math:-

Bin Laden = Terrorist
Bin Laden = Prophet
Prophet = Terrorist

Then bomb in the turban or sword by the side, makes little difference.

Muslims who don’t support Bin Laden – must support the fact that the Prophet performed many violent acts, which Bin Laden has used as justification of his actions.

Posted by: Pass It On at February 7, 2006 9:51 AM

"Islam is pieces."

Look, Muslims are even saying it themselves!!

Posted by: pythagoras at February 7, 2006 10:59 PM

jsla:

If I am not mistaken the American colloquism "what a cut-up" originated from speculation about what the Egyptian Muslim-theologian Qutb was doing in his spare time while in the United States. Note how similar the two words are phonetically: 'cut-up' and 'Qutb.'

Thus the term "cut-up" may well already imply something psychopathic.

Posted by: pythagoras at February 7, 2006 11:03 PM

I do not think that they are ready for democracy.
My thoughts regarding the muslim world has changed a lot lately.It's the fifteeth century all over again. There religion flies in the face of freedom of expression.We say if you dont like a program dont watch it.They say blow it up and behead the particpants.Those who like democracy live in one. Their intolerance and rage is off the hook!
I hope the oil companies will take there billion dollar prfits and invest in alternative energy source(wishful thinking).

Posted by: basil at February 8, 2006 1:38 AM

I do not think that they are ready for democracy.
My thoughts regarding the muslim world has changed a lot lately.It's the fifteeth century all over again. There religion flies in the face of freedom of expression.We say if you dont like a program dont watch it.They say blow it up and behead the particpants.Those who like democracy live in one. Their intolerance and rage is off the hook!
I hope the oil companies will take there billion dollar profits and invest in alternative energy source(wishful thinking).

Posted by: basil at February 8, 2006 1:39 AM