That undercover reporter must be one courageous man. Bravo! I hope he's taken some precautions.

Posted by: kamala at February 12, 2006 2:39 AM

Read this article and noted 'two thirds of those surveyed in Yougov Poll are increasingly pessimistic about being able to live with the Muslim community in Britain.' Gee, wonder how they got this idea, must be Islamophobia-NAH IT'S CALLED SURVIVAL.Solution is simple really,deport all Muslims to nearest Sharia Paradise...Pack in Islamist BBC cretins with them: they can experience the joy and peace of Islam for themselves.

Posted by: Morgane at February 12, 2006 3:27 AM

There are NO moderates Muslims!!

There are those who want Sharia law now and there are those who are willing to wait until Muslims are in a population majority.

The very definition of moderation is incompatible with the teaching of the child rapist and cannot exist. To ignore any teaching of the "prophet" is to apostasise and hence be a nonMuslim.

If Al-Faisal is being released soon I do hope that he is then being deported to some Islamic "paradise".

Actually calling us "cockroaches" gives me some optimism as 4 years after the A-Bombs on Bikini Atoll there where only the birds who had flown back and the cockroaches who never left.
However I feel sure that his use of the term had much to do with the Hutu use of the word with reference to Tutsis.

What do we call these scum in return?"Whiteants" or "termites" as they eat away at the very fabric of our society?

Posted by: Zathras at February 12, 2006 4:34 AM

I can see no way that muslims will let us live in peace in our nations in the West. The "peaceful" demonstration in London yesterday is simply a holding operation as the muslim population, which by the way is more then 5 million in the UK rather then 1.6 million as oft quoted, grows till they are able to enforce islamic values in society.

The reason that this has come to pass is the belief that multiculteralism is good for the nation. Yet we forget that the very concept of a nation is based on people founding a community/nation of shared language and culture. It is for this reason that we have several European nations. Though we have the same culture, the languages are different.

And now we have imported a large group of people who do not even share the culture that they have come to. Moderate or radical islamists is not the issue. Muslims by the very fact that are muslims, cannot be part of the culture of a Western nation. As such they become an irritant growth in the host body. I write this in no disrespect of muslims or their culture. It is simply a fact.

After so much pain, we in the West had finally found a way to live in peace with each other. Was it really necessary to import muslims and disturb the peace?

Posted by: DP111 at February 12, 2006 7:21 AM

This edition of The Sunday Times was choc full of Islam. There are only 1.6 million muslims in Britain, but they certainly punch above their weight. It looks as if people are getting sick of it.

a Sunday Times-YouGov poll of more than 1,600 people ... shows that 86% of people think the protests were “a gross overreaction”. By 56% to 29% respondents said it was right to publish the cartoons in Denmark and republish them elsewhere.

Earlier this month Muslim protesters in Britain carried placards urging violence and death against those who insult Islam, and celebrating last year’s July 7 London bombings. Asked about those protests, 58% said it made them angry and 76% said the police should have arrested those carrying offensive or provocative banners.....

The police and politicians are criticised more generally for not confronting Islamic extremism, with 80% of respondents saying the authorities show too much tolerance of Muslims who urge extreme acts. Two-thirds, 67%, think this is because senior policemen such as Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan police commissioner, are too “politically correct”....

There is widespread gloom about the future, with 87% expecting further attacks in Britain by Islamic groups on the scale of the July 7 bombings; and only 17% seeing a future in which there is peaceful coexistence between Muslims and others in Britain, while 67% think there will be a worsening of tensions.

Posted by: Interested at February 12, 2006 7:30 AM

Interested

This figure of 1.6 million muslims in the UK has been qouted for the last 5 years or more, ie from the last census. Since then there has been a huge influx of muslims, legal and illegal. Even the figure of 1.6 million is suspect, as the male head of the muslim family would have declared a household of 4 or 5 on the census form while there may have been 10 in the house with several wives.

In the last 9 years, the Labour government has deliberately allowed in millions of muslims as a vote bank for itself. Having done so it was loth to take even the most rudimentary measures to protect us from the terrorists in the muslim community. How could they as that would have upset the muslim vote bank?

It is said that trouble starts when the muslim population reaches 10% of the total population. This is the case in France, Holland and other European states. From this one can hazard that the muslim population of the UK is in the vicinity of 5 million.

Posted by: DP111 at February 12, 2006 7:50 AM

A religion of peace my arse.

Posted by: chuck at February 12, 2006 8:22 AM

The nation state as presently defined in the West cannot be at peace with a large community whose culture is not just different but is opposed to the host body. It is not a matter of race but one of culture. We either accept multiculturalism or the nation state, a mixure is not a recipe for a society at peace with itself but at war. This is what is in the offing in the near future - civil wars within all Western and non-muslim nations - what I have defined as the first global civil war, as this war is quite different from WW 1 and 2.

Posted by: DP111 at February 12, 2006 8:32 AM

Hamid Ali is hereby granted one overnight
visit with Lorena Bobbitt...at my expense!

Posted by: Goldenrod at February 12, 2006 11:58 AM

The Imam in question, Hamid Ali, is only voicing what to most Moslems seems obvious. Reports on Skynews are saying that the papers have the wrong end of the stick - that he didn't condone the attacks, but felt that, on the whole, the Ummah had benefitted from the heightened exposure.

Is it too soon after the attrocities to be claiming to have made political headway from the aftermath? Certainly not. Ibrahim Mogda, a member of the MCB who proudly boasts of sitting on an advisory council to Tony Blair, was saying exactly the same thing on Channel Four's dedicated Moslem panel show Sharia UK broadcast on 4/8/05, within a fortnight of the last (failed) attacks.

Incidently, the same show also stated that suicide bombing was fine in Israel, if imprudent for the UK, at least for the time being. It was further suggested that if only a Caliph were reinstated, there would be world peace, because the Ummah would see itself on an even-footing with the Christian West - betraying, amongst others, the false notion that the Pope represents all Christendom, not to mention the reign of chaos that would no doubt ensue. These veiws were met with unanimous agreement from all panel members, guests and the show's host.

The day after that program, Mogda's cohorts at the MCB reiterated that the biggest 'victims' of the attacks had been British Moslems! So which is it - victim or victor? Of course, it's both. Thanks to the uncritical MSM, they can have it both ways. Our media happily feeds us the unchallenged views of our enemies, masquerading as 'both sides' of the debate, when really all we're getting is both sides of the Ummah's propaganda.

So if a 'British Moslem' leader can openly claim on national TV that the mass murder of innocent, unsuspecting commuters has been good for the Islamic community here, why should anybody care that other, less influential Imams are saying the same thing in private conversation six months later? The problem, surely, is that by toeing the line that the ignorant, decadent West is using it's own self-inflicted terrorism as a weapon of oppression against the poor downtrodden Ummah, the MSM is culturing an environment where opinions such as Hamid Ali's / Ibrahim Mogda et al are perfunctory and commonplace.

Why didn't the MSM cover the funeral celebrations in Pakinstan where the bombers were hailed as heroes? Why didn't they question the snide placatives of their friends and families? Instead the news agencies wring their hands over the govts. proposed 'glorification of terror' bill, as if this may be a step too far, yet all the while giving tacit approval to the undercurrent of Islamist propaganda. Of course the bobmers are worshiped by their brethren. The media has done nothing to demonise them - as it should - so why should such opinions carry any stigma?

It's probably only a matter of time before Redken unviels statues of the 'heroes of the revolution' in Trafalgar Square, to commemorate their selfless contribution to "British Islam".

Posted by: Animus Fox at February 12, 2006 12:33 PM

Muslim spokesmen seem to have quite a penchant for lying. Unless they acknowledge the problems in Islam and in the Koran, without making excuses and without tu quoque deflections, they are lying to the public. Journalists have to stop allowing themselves to be played as fools by the Islamist hucksters.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2006 2:01 PM

Archimedes-

The journalists are either uninformed fools (their own damned fault, since any search engine and a few office hours could inform them about the basics of Islam, Mohammad, the Hadiths, the most violent Koranic suras, and the general Imperialistic history of Islamic conquest) or pandering craven cowards (their own goddamned fault, worried about their necks ["strike at their necks!"], or bombs in their Yugos or Lexuses [depending on salary levels] or their families being kidnapped).

In any event, a sad and gelded showing of the once strong tribe of Peter Zenger.

Posted by: profitsbeard at February 12, 2006 5:55 PM

profitsbeard

I think everyone is afraid, when you have a disagreement with Islam you don't just get attacked, by their thinking lobby with wads of paper and verbal attacks in the papers, their disagreements quickly spill out of hand - in mafia style - a radical bag of mixed nuts emerges and threatens the life of the reporter, artist or what have you.

This thing is a Mafia operation - anything they want - it’s; oh yes, oh yes.
[ You violent so-and-so's. ]

And because no one is daring to speak out publicly against the Muslims, it almost gives them a false sense of security. They actually believe they got their ‘Islam Means Peace’ message across. And everyone is having to be very caution - because we are not imaging it - they will kill you.

We have to understand the nature of this dog they call Islam; it has attacked us and it is willing to eat our children.

Posted by: Pass It On at February 13, 2006 5:29 AM