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February 15, 2006

Cartoon Protests in Pakistan Leave 3 Dead

More utter stark-raving cartoon madness. An update on this story from AP:

PESHAWAR, Pakistan - Gunfire and rioting erupted Wednesday as tens of thousands of people took to the streets in several Pakistani cities during the country's third consecutive day of violent protests over the Prophet Muhammad cartoons. Three people were killed, including an 8-year-old boy.

More than 70,000 people flooded the streets of the northwestern city of Peshawar, said Saeed Wazir, a senior police officer. The massive crowd went on a rampage, torching businesses and fighting police, who struck back with tear gas and batons. A bus terminal operated by South Korea's Sammi Corp. was torched, police said.

Protesters burned a KFC restaurant, three movie theaters and the offices of the main mobile phone company in the country. A Norwegian mobile phone company's offices were also ransacked. Gunfire was heard near the burning KFC, as police tried to clear people from a main street, witnesses said.

An 8-year-old boy died after being struck in the face by a bullet fired by a protester, police officer Shahid Khan said. A 25-year-old man was killed by an electric cable that was snapped by gunfire, said the man's cousin, Jehangir Khan.

At least 45 people were being treated for injuries in Peshawar's two state-run hospitals, Khan and witnesses said....

Demonstrations around Asia and the Middle East over the cartoons — which first appeared in a Danish newspaper in September and have been reprinted by other Western newspapers — have subsided in recent days, including in Afghanistan, where 11 people died in riots last week.

Many Muslims regard any depiction of the prophet as blasphemous. They reject the newspapers' explanations that the cartoons have news value and represent free speech....

Hundreds of Afghan refugees joined the protest in Peshawar, the capital of the conservative North West Frontier Province. Many chanted "Death to Denmark!" and "Hang those who drew the insulting cartoons!" Others burned Danish flags and effigies of the Danish prime minister.

Rioting also broke out Wednesday in the northwestern town of Tank, near the South Waziristan tribal region where security officials have said al-Qaida-linked foreign fighters are hiding. Protesters set fire to 30 shops selling CDs, DVDs, and videos, said Attiq Wazir, a local police official. Suspected Islamic militants had warned music shops to close, witnesses said.

One policeman was injured when a protester opened fire to resist arrest.

In the eastern city of Lahore, fighting flared up for the second straight day. A 30-year-old man was shot dead in a clash with police as about 1,500 students staged a rally outside a university, hospital and police officials said.

On Tuesday, thousands of protesters went on a rampage in Lahore, burning Western businesses including McDonald's, KFC and Pizza Hut restaurants. Two people died and police detained 125 people, a police official said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

Violent protests also erupted Tuesday in the capital, Islamabad. More than 1,000 students forced their way into a heavily guarded enclave housing foreign embassies. They damaged cars and a bank building, but were quickly expelled from the area with tear gas and water cannons.

Elsewhere in Asia, hundreds of Muslim protesters ripped apart and burned Danish flags Wednesday in a rally at the Danish honorary consulate in Manila, the Philippines.

In Muslim-majority Malaysia, the government ordered Guang Ming, the country's third largest Chinese-language newspaper, to halt publication of its evening edition for two weeks as punishment for printing a photograph in which the cartoons were visible.

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Posted by: a10billr [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 7:44 AM

cartoons, blahh!! let's make a movie.

Posted by: stranger [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 7:47 AM

I wonder how many would be dead if this wasn't an islamic sanctioned riot.

I'm sure if the protests were over REAL freedom of speech, freedom of religion or women's rights, the jails, hospitals and morgues would be overflowing.

Instead of using water cannons they would have used deadly force.

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 7:47 AM

keep it up - " me thinks the lady dust protest too much " the more these brainless peasants run amok the more they are exposed in the western eye for what they are - a people who have abandoned reason for the easy path of dogma and supestition and their fate will be a harsh one - they are headed for the abyss - adious fuckers

Posted by: johnmac [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 7:48 AM

They only burned KFC because they were worried about bird flu.

Posted by: JanuaryMan [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 8:02 AM

2 dead, 13 injured people had been taken to the hospital. Of them, five suffered bullet injuries, he said, adding that three of them were in a critical condition.

Around 500 vehicles, mainly cars, & at least 75 motorcycles and 10 cars were burnt by the protesters.
All traffic signals on The Mall, Egerton Road, Hall Road, Laxmi Chowk, Bhati Chowk and some on Ferozpur Road and Multan Road were broken completely.
I have frequented a lot of these shoping malls in the past.....it is very sickenining & frightening to see this demolishment.

In Lahore, thousands of people, from various religious parties and seminary students, had taken to the street on a strike call given by the Tahaffuz Namoos-i-Risalat Mahaz,
It was too late called when the Pakistan Rangers got in ....the situation in the street had turned ugly.
Frighteningly, the Lahore operations police chief Aamir Zulfikar Khan, was not in a good shape after being held hostage for 15 minutes by the rioters themselves..... He had to go to the Services Hospital for treatment himself.
The Lower Mall police station was the first that was pelted with stones.
One of the groups put a hotel and a car showroom with four new cars inside on fire at the Dyal Singh Mansion near the Regal Chowk, another group attacked American fast food restaurant, two banks, all the four buildings were reduced to ashes long before fire brigade got to the scene.

The rioters broke glasses of shops on both sides of The Mall and on reaching the Charing Cross, they vandalised the building of another bank and burnt two more vehicles.

The police resorted to teargas shelling, but the protesters attacked the Punjab Assembly building, but it still got burned.

I am appaled by the chaos in my backyard. The Danish people have been completely irresponsible ....taking this freedom of speech too far. Thay should look at the damage done....pay for some of it ...or come in the middle of these madman and feel some of the anger.

Denmark must be held accountable for the damage all over the orld.


Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 8:28 AM

No. There shall be NO Danegeld.

Posted by: Gary [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 8:39 AM

you should be - appalled !!- by the savagery of your own people - I think you have to take a long look in the mirror and face the fact of what your society is - backward - and stop trying to play the victim and blame the sad state of affairs on a civilised country like Denmark - all islamic countries are the same - Does it not even occur to you that there might be a common thread here ---no -- nothing!!

Posted by: johnmac [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 8:40 AM

Or gelding of Danes, as the case may be.

Posted by: Gary [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 8:40 AM

Naseem:
1.Were these riots 'spontaneous' or stage-managed?
2.Do these riots, obviously supported by the clergy have the backing of the intelligence agencies and sections of the militray and police?
3.Are both shias and sunnis involved in these riots or is it along sectarian lines?
4.If more cartoons are published, can we expect more riots and destruction of public and private property?

An informed reply would be appreciated. Tks.

Posted by: voletti [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 8:41 AM

No, the Danes aren't to blame for the riots. Just because they printed something that is considered blasphemy (how can somethimg be blasphemy if it's true)doesn't mean that all this chaos is their fault.

The rioters and the instigators (religious fanatics) have to TAKE RESPONSIBLITY for their own actions.

If Imams call for chaos and these people respond with setting fires, killing each other, destroying property, these individuals are responsible for their actions.

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 8:41 AM

Or gelding of Danes

Worthy of Goebbels.

Posted by: Interested [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 9:01 AM

From a pukistani newspaper (LINK), these people were simply penniless and hungry.

The raiders entered the Askari Bank building in Bank Square and robbed money and computers and destroyed the bank’s furniture Another group of thugs broke into McDonalds restaurant nearby, chained, beat and burnt ‘Ronald McDonald’ the clown, robbed all the cash and ate the food. They also brutalised people inside the restaurant.

The outlaws entered Pizza Hut on The Mall where they looted all cash and ate and ran away with pizzas, after beating the restaurant’s employees. They also broke into Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC) on The Mall and robbed cash. A man was seen fleeing with frozen chicken on his motorcycle.

The plunderers broke into Allied Electronics and robbed vacuum cleaners, irons and air conditioners. They broke the ATM outside Muslim Commercial Bank on The Mall. The also broke into McDonalds restaurant on Edgerton Road, looted cash and beat the employees. Another mob broke into Shezan bakery in Garhi Shahu and robbed cash and food.

The robbers robbed more than 25 shops on and around the road from Naqi Arcade to Alfalah Bank, and also looted some not so valuable goods including readymade garments and shoes.

Posted by: desi_singh [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 9:02 AM

From what I've read . . .the rioters haven't even had the opportunity to view the cartoons for which they rage against.

The rioters rage because they were incited by their own doctrine of hate. They shall suffer the consequences of this overwhelming hate and violence as well, for there is nothing in their religion that will save them from themselves.

Posted by: justamomof4 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 9:02 AM

Naseem,

Your backwards logic is astounding. You list all of those atrocities and then lay the blame on the Danes. Ignorance is apparently highly regarded on your planet.

On this planet, however, the Muslims caused all of the rioting (months after they were originally published, but that’s beside the point) and all of the destruction and the killing all over a few cartoons in a Danish newspaper –a Danish newspaper in Denmark, not in Islamic lands. The rules that may apply in Islamic lands do not necessarily apply in non-Islamic lands at all. To which, living in a free society, I’m highly thankful.

For God’s sake, when are the barbarous Muslims going to stand up and take some responsibility for their own disgusting, violent actions? Ever? Probably not, because I’ve seen with my own eyes for far too long their masterful manipulation of facts and twisting of logic (just like Naseem’s trying here, only much less successfully) into fantastical realms that befuddle and confuse those with logical thinking minds. Spin doctors supreme! Funnier still, to me, is that when Mo’s shown wearing a bomb on his head instead of a turban, depicting in a rather clever way the inherent violence in Islam, the Muslims respond with violence and do nothing more than to support the stereotype! I thought Islam was supposed to be a religion of peace and tolerance –this has blown open the doors and shown the truth behind this ‘religion’. Hilarious! I suppose it’s considered a ‘religion of peace’ once it’s killed everybody –only then will there truly be peace, I suppose.

I only have one hope for you, Naseem. I hope for your sake, and for everyone’s sake, that people wake up to the violence given to the world by Mohammed, perpetuated by idiots (much like the French cartoon of Mohammed crying about being loved by idiots –I couldn’t have said it better myself, really) and then do something about deporting the riff-raff like a cancerous, malignant tumor in the body, before it’s too late.

If you don’t agree, Naseem, do everyone a favor and jump under a tuck, why don’t you? Take out some of that rage by jamming a stick of dynamite up your hind quarters, perhaps. Whatever you choose to do, don’t bother hanging around these boards whining about how terrible the West is, how bad the Danes are, or how we’re to blame for the actions of an ignorant, insane group of lobotomized automatons who wantonly destroy everything in their path over being insulted by a cartoon. I’m insulted by them, yet I haven’t burnt, broken, or destroyed anything.

Muslims: grow a thick hide like every other religion has. If you don’t, mark my words: your end will be your own doing.

Posted by: illustr8rg8r [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 9:06 AM

If the western world were united in this, if we could speak with one voice and all papers, all TV stations, every radio-jock would blast this idiocy around the clock all over the world, we might get this Islamo-nightmare to collapse like a house of cards.

If our polit-props weren't such wimps and had the guts to jail the Quaradwi's and the Abu Labans, and the police would round up the 'protesters' who want to bring us the sharia, if the falsehood and the incoherent nonsense of the Koran and Mohounds criminal bandit-career were relentlessly exposed so that even the most indoctrinated mo-bot could begin to understand what a doomsday-cult this is, that might just do it and bring down the mosques and the power of the clerics.

I believe what Ali Sina sez: If Muslims are exposed and ridiculed for the absurdities, for the cruelty and perversion that Islam teaches, they will defect in masses. Islam will collapse like communism, lets keep the heat up!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 9:08 AM

Naseem said:

I am appaled by the chaos in my backyard. The Danish people have been completely irresponsible ....taking this freedom of speech too far. Thay should look at the damage done....pay for some of it ...or come in the middle of these madman and feel some of the anger.

Denmark must be held accountable for the damage all over the orld [sic].

This projection of blame is a common element of the pathology of the criminal mind. It is so universal among criminals that police interrogation techniques exploit it in almost every interview. One of the most effective techniques is to ask the criminal things like, "What did the stupid victim do that left you no choice but to put the axe in their stupid head?" Amazingly, or perhaps not so amazingly, a great number of them confess to their crimes quite readily when they are questioned in this manner. Perhaps they believe that the police truly sympathize with their worldview. The technique validates the criminal's sense of their own victimhood. As a victim, they can perpetrate their crimes without assuming any blame and thus anesthetize any shred of remorse or responsibility that may yet linger in their subconscious.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 9:46 AM

I hereby declare that Naseem is personally responsible for Bodie Miller not winning gold in the men's downhill, for Dick Cheney's hunting accident, for the US budget deficit, global warming, and the fact that ice cream is fattening.

She/he must now compensate every Infidel on the planet for these heinous crimes.

Posted by: treehugger [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 9:47 AM

illustr8rg8r Assalma-Laikum,

Hope you are fit and well ---unlike the people who have been injured & killed in this needless "infidel exercise".

Is there much wrong with this?...you betcha.

I have little doubt that some of this was orchistrated by religious louts (eh sorry Imams) and some who may not even have seen the caricatures.

However there is little control to be exercised when you have upto 50,000 protestors...amongst which there are thieves...and people who are hungry....I mean ...protesting carrying those heavy sticks, swords, gardening forks and shouting at the top of your voice is hard work.

Bullies get carried away, buildings get damaged and Lahore (my home town) is a lot worse for wear..to look at and more frightening to live in.

You cannot legislate for morons and thugs...they are in all societies. The best you can do is try & keep your yard & town clean.

Now to the educated West this is all a nonsense...all over cartoons....nothing much is sacred in there anymore.

But people in the East love their prophet and is the MOST sacred posession to them. It's a different frame of reference to them....and while this is over here...it is of little consequence to you over there.

Devastation has come to my yard...and the West needs to understand that it affect good law-abiding citizens of Lahore like me...so yes I do hold the danes responsible....them & a couple of mindless thugs here.

Obviously, you don't understand what I am talking about....perhaps it would aid your understanding better if the rage was brought to your home town...where cars are burned (luckily I had had the foresight to garage mine), people are killed and hurt before your very eyes.

When YOU understand it better, perhaps then you too may think that this freedom of speech lark has gone a bit far and it would not be so funny anymore.

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 9:49 AM

To paraphrase myself:
Only three?

Posted by: JanuaryMan [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 9:53 AM

Naseem, I agree we should wipe Denmark off the face of the earth. You are so wise. Thanks for the inept and totally asinine responses and excuses you give for the ummah. Yabba dabba do.

Posted by: JanuaryMan [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 10:07 AM

Naseem,

You completely ignore the fact that these cartoons were printed elswhere in a
sovereign land. The Danes have absolutely no reason to follow the laws of islam.
The destruction in your country is the sole responsibility of your own
citizens. Raging, burning, killing all done for cartoons printed in a different
land subject to diffefent laws, and still you are victims of the Danes. Incredible...
I fear the disconnect between you (and many more like you),and reality
is much larger than you can even understand.

Posted by: NoMo [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 10:08 AM

Naseem, the first step into 21st century civilization is to get over Mo. He was a criminal. Stop glorifying him.

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 10:20 AM

Naseem

Allah-assum-lickum’ to you, too.

Okay, I can see some of your points and do agree that idiot mentality abounds in all cultures and civilizations, but when it becomes the norm and the majority of an entire group of, as you so eloquently put it yourself, ‘thieves’, that’s when my nerves begin to fray. Have the Danes realized yet that these protestors are vermin on their society and culture yet? Believe me, it’s a good thing that Islam has been insulted –no one should be above insult, living or dead. I’ve seen many insulting things said about Christians and Jews and I have yet to see rioting in the streets, pillaging, burning …all of those wonderfully stereotypical things that comes along with Islam –what a wonderfully peaceful religion. Tell me, if Mohammed were around today, do you think he wouldn’t have used bombs when attacking enemy armies? Would he have not used them when attacking caravans? Certainly he would have, therefore making the cartoons (and the subsequent Muslim rage) all the funnier!

I wouldn’t expect you to ‘get it’, though. As the Ayatollah said: “There is no humor in Islam.” No wonder there’s so much hatred going on in the religion –they’ve got no laughter, no enjoyment beyond pressing their noggins into the ground, and, most importantly, no hope.

I certainly would appreciate their ‘coming over here’ because we need more idiots running around and burning everything in sight to wake up the masses of infidels who need their 4x4s getting torched to get a little fire in their bellies and get adequately pissed enough to put a stop to the Islamic insanity that’s trying it’s best to hide its secret agendas and looking for submission from the world –we’re not going to take it and you can pound your fists, scream, and burn as much as you want to, but it’s making the entire lot of Muslims look like spoiled little children who deserve nothing more from the West that contempt, scorn, and a good ass-spanking.

This rioting for so long wouldn’t stand here, either. We’ve also got the right to bear arms, so the first wacky-assed turban-headed freak to come running up to me with clenched fists and anger in his eyes over simple cartoons is going to find themselves on a quick trip to Allah. It’s too bad there aren’t some infidels in your backyard popping the heads off of some maniacs because that would either escalate things or stop the madness pretty quick. Either way, the rest of the world is becoming alert and starting to see the truth about the wonderful religion of peace.

Keep on rioting, you crazy-ass Muslims! Kill more of your own kind! You’re making your prophet proud, I’m sure!

Posted by: illustr8rg8r [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 10:21 AM

Naseem, I'm shocked. How can you talk so unkindly about your fellow Muslims? If cars have been burned and people have been killed, it's because Allah has willed it so.

Remember, only good can come from Islam ruling the earth! Here is a small taste of the paradise that awaits you.

Enjoy.

Posted by: treehugger [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 10:26 AM

Islam is responsible. The muslim leaders told those people to go out and do damage and smile for the camera while they were at it. There has been discussion about the cartoons all over the world. Riots only happened in the countries under the control of the imans.

Muslims can't accept responsibilty for anything it seems.

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 10:28 AM

a good ass-spanking....you crazy-ass Muslims

Is a good ass-spanking as bad-ass as a good-ass spanking?

Posted by: Interested [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 10:31 AM

Naseem:

"Obviously, you don't understand what I am talking about....perhaps it would aid your understanding better if the rage was brought to your home town...where cars are burned (luckily I had had the foresight to garage mine), people are killed and hurt before your very eyes."

Bring it, Baby!

Posted by: Abscedere [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 10:32 AM

The chaos in Pakistan is growing daily. If the likes of bin Laden and his crony thugs succeed in fomenting the demise of Musharraf, the nuclear arsenal that is loosely managed by Islamic fundamentalist military leaders, will easily fall into their hands. So forget about Iran and its potential for acquiring nuclear weapons, those weapons already exist and are an inch away from the sticky hands of bin Laden et al.

The stakes in Pakistan are much higher than any associated with trashing some fast food restaurants.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 10:37 AM

The Danes should apologize, as Naseem demands, by drawing a picture of a rebuilt McDonalds (etc.) in Pakistan.

Since all they did was draw pictures (and attention to the violent and intolerant face of Mohammad) in the first place.

Only the berzerker Muslims have taken it any further than ink on paper.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 10:57 AM

Naseem has given us yet another sample of what is famously known as lahori logic, i.e. (for more on this see the comments of desi_singh on another thread at Jihad Watch, i.e. http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009565.php)

Posted by: Razdan [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 11:02 AM

The only real pity is that Naseem hasn't expired
in these riots. At least then it would finally
stop spewing its' nonsense here.

I agree that next someone needs to make a movie,
or at least an animated cartoon series. I think
"Married to Children" starring Aisha has my vote.

Posted by: American [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 11:30 AM

Naseem, below are the ten commandments which I and most Christians try to live by. If our God is one and the same - I believe mulims are breaking His laws going and coming. You say pictures of your prophet are blasphemous because they may lead you to idolize your prophet. I say that it is very obvious that you do idoloze him. The actions that we are seeing in your country and others is due to this. I'd say your people are breaking many of God's commandments. Personally, I don't believe you serve or love God at all. I think Satan has control of you and your people. I will pray for you.

First Commandment (Exodus 20:2): I am the Lord Your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

Second Commandment (Exodus 20:3-6): You shall have no other gods beside Me. You shall not make for yourself any graven image, nor any manner of likeness, of any thing that is heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them, nor serve them, for I, the Lord Your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.

Third Commandment (Exodus 20:7): You shall not take the name of the Lord Your God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that takes His name in vain.

Fourth Commandment (Exodus 20:8-11): Remember the Sabbath, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work; but the seventh day is a Sabbath unto the Lord Your God, in it you shall not do any manner of work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your man-servant, nor your maid-servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger that is within your gates; for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested on the seventh day. Wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and made it holy.

Fifth Commandment (Exodus 20:12): Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord God gives you.

Sixth Commandment (Exodus 20:13): You shall not murder.

Seventh Commandment (Exodus 20:13): You shall not commit adultery.

Eighth Commandment (Exodus 20:13): You shall not steal.

Ninth Commandment (Exodus 20:13): You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

Tenth Commandment (Exodus 20:14):You shall not covet your neighbor's house, nor his wife, his man-servant, his maid-servant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is your neighbor's.

Posted by: bamabelle [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 11:51 AM
...yes I do hold the danes responsible....them & a couple of mindless thugs here.
Naseem

I don’t think you realize what you are really saying. If it is our fault for the bad behavior of Mohammadans world wide, then the west must have complete and total control over Moslems. It is the only way it can be our fault. The Mohammadan must be the puppet dangling from infidel strings. The only way I can make you do something, is if I have authority over you. Only the master can control the slave. So every time you Mohammadans blame us, you are really saying, that you are our servant, and we rule over you with complete control.

Posted by: Bar [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 12:04 PM

If I were living in the Middle East, I would find a deep hole, stock it with food & water for a protracted stay, and arrange to seal the entry with a good 200 lb manhole cover. In the near term, I'd not stray far from it.

Further, it would be wise to practice, or invent, survival techniques suitable for a desolate landscape of radioactive, fused sand.

Good luck. (No, really!)

Posted by: 00Buck [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 2:45 PM
An 8-year-old boy died after being struck in the face by a bullet fired by a protester, police officer Shahid Khan said. A 25-year-old man was killed by an electric cable that was snapped by gunfire, said the man's cousin, Jehangir Khan.

Did the reporters consider the possibility that there was an Islamic wedding being held nearby? That would account for the multiple gunshot victims. Maybe it's wrong, but I find these descriptions of Islamic celebrations-gone-wild quite amusing. Does anyone remember that "Jackass" show on MTV a couple of years ago, where the host would do things like cover his body with hamburger patties and then go lie on a barbecue grill or hit himself in the head with a baseball bat?

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 2:58 PM

To all the commenters of this forum, hello.
My name is Jay-Ron and I'm from Israel.
this is my first comment on jihad watch even though i have been reading here for a long while.

I would like to start by saying that it's good to see that the whole world realizing just now(or since 911) the pleague that carries the name "Islam".

For years those towel heads have been killing our ppl here on a weekly if not daily base.
If i could offer you one tip it's this one:
Protect your freedom of speech, but most importantly, PROTECT YOUR LIVES!!

you think the real fuss is because of some stupid cartoons? NO!!! Islamic ppl just need an excuse to kill and see blood! that's it!! they live for it!! like freakin' vempires!

And that Naseem "women"(more like islamic whore(!),that's right i said it Naseem) is probably sitting in there laughing her ass up! she's leavin' just one comment... fules all of u and gets lots of attention (probably doesn't get enought beef from the husband).
believe me... i've seen enough of these idiotic islamic ppl, i know their kind.

I almost died in two suicide attacks on the city of Tel-Aviv... i've seen my share of horror caused by these blood thirsty idiots.

today it's a cartoon and tomorrow it's why your women doen't wear body cover and a year later is why aren't u islamic.

so protect your freedom, cause if they take most of it now... tomorrow it's your life. and that's from my horrific expiriance.

btw: illustr8rg8r... u're the man... keep it up...

Posted by: jayron [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 6:12 PM

Jayron ...assalam-laikum , shalom, welcome and welcommen.

Good to have you on board - I have always said that I greatly admire the jewish work ethic. I have tried to get the muslilm to share some of that but the problem is one of percieved superiority.

You see for 1000 long years the jew has been seen as a dhimmi and muslims got tax but now no more....infact it could work the other way.

Muslims especially in the ME are about 50-200 years behind in knowing this...and some of them don't realise that the rest of the world has left them behind.

So they need to be fast track educated, I'd like them to cosy up to the Israeli and get them to teach us work ethic and project management because that is where we muslims are weak.

Our strength lies in our faith, and for the love of our prophet.....ironically it turns out to be our achilles heel too.....FOR NOW.

Jayron, I see that you are far clearer in your mind than most of the infidel here. People like Amrikan and Texikan think that muslims are backward stupid people and that a couple of rounds of ammo will keep them out.

But you my friend Jayron....you know better don't you...you know that faith can move mountains...that it cannot be stifled by a few rounds of ammo.

I am sorry to hear of your brush with death...it is frightening isn't it.....I saw it myself over the past few days here in Lahore....the sunni were bloody and they were with the shia....and you understand that better than the infidel here.

Good...*you* know that Allah is stong , that the muslim is strong and you know about occupation too.

The muslim has done it for 1000 years and you have done it for 50 years...so you have tasted with the muslim....not surprising really as we share common ancestors and a common history.

My point here was simple...had the cartoons not been printed...a number of dead people would have been alive and my backyard would not have been trashed....simple as that.

But ofcourse the Infidel always reads more to it than that...accues me of being bipolar and duplicity....I am muslim, I only know the highest truth....that of Allah as written in the Koran ....as all will get to know!!!!!!

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 6:42 PM

My point here was simple...had the cartoons not been printed...a number of dead people would have been alive and my backyard would not have been trashed....simple as that. ~ Naseem, aka ad nauseam

My pint here is simple, had the Arabs rejected Mohammad way back when then a whole lot of people would still be alive. Im talking about hundreds of thousands of people not just a handful that wouldn’t have had their life cut short by these Moslems doing Mohammad’s will.

P.S. It is impossible to make someone do something, unless you have control over them. So what will we make the Moslems do tomorrow?

Posted by: Bar [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 8:44 PM

Jayron-

As I'm sure Naseem knows, and Jackie Mason must have said, you don't have to worry about a Jew cutting off your head, only your credit line.

Shalom, bro.

(As for the Sunni and Shi'ites. they make mafia godfathers Don Corleone and Don Genovese look like pikers and pantywaists. They are trying to divide up not just the protection rackets of a city or region, but the entire Earth. "Take the cannoli" to them means "Pluck Eurabia, that fat, weak fruit.")

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 9:09 PM

"People like Amrikan and Texikan think that muslims are backward stupid people and that a couple of rounds of ammo will keep them out."

Naseem,

Firearms owned by U.S. citizens - approx. 235,000,000

Conservative guess of 10 rounds per gun - 2,350,000,000 rounds. Do the math.

BTW that's NOT counting the U.S. military. They have MUCH bigger guns.

Posted by: LesCorpus [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 15, 2006 11:22 PM

Naseem and his/her religion must be held accountable for the damage all over the world.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2006 12:11 AM

JayRon -

Wellcome aboard! Keep in touch. I like to hear the perspective from Israel.

I never paid any attention to islam/muslims until after 911. Today, I understand what Israel has been coping with these many years.

Posted by: 00Buck [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2006 2:06 AM

Hello again,
First of all "00Buck" thanx for the warm welcome :-) i'll try to give a piece of my israeli mind here as much as i can ... (i feel like carlos mencia all of a sudden lol)

Now to "Naseem" the perfact example of a two faced, bipolar muslim.

1.don't call ppl here "infidels" - these ppl serve god in a better way any muslim would ever do! muslims have no idea of spirituality... they confuse if with anger and death.
and those american "infidels" are the ppl who finance 3/4 of the muslim countries so give them the respect they deserve.

2.u refer to the americans as if they don't get it,but it is clear to see that we all get it (all human beings of this earth), but the muslim animals they are the ones who actually really don't get it. allow me to elaborate.

all major religions (jewdahism, christianity ect.) had been revised over the years and adapted themselves to the modern times and the modern world. but guess who stayed 2000 years behind and had no revision since it was invented by the pig who i like to call muhammad? u guessed it right... ISLAM!!!

3.now to the reason i call u a bipolar two face.

you give such a calm comment and u seemed very paitient to the fact i called u an islamic whore... in fact... u didn't even tackel that in your comment.
you even call me your friend in that comment (yeah right) and talk to me about the jewish work
ethic and project management.. all this just to show to the other viewers of this blog how calm and peacful the islamic way is.... typical muslim behaviour.
but lets cut the bullshit, if i were there u would be the first one to cut my head off and send the tape to my family sayin': "this is what you get zionist pigs".

ppl!! open your eyez and don't believe the bullshit muslims sell u... they can seem like the most calm peaceful creatures on the face of the planet but inside rages the fire of hate and death.

we have a saying in hebrew "al tafne et hagav lemuslemi": don't turn your back on a muslim... and we say that over years of bad expiriance and we mean that sayin' in a literal and a metaphoric way.

screw you Naseem... i don't buy it! i've grown too smart for your kind to sell me crap.

p.s
"profitsbeard" thanx for the shalom :-), right now i'm a student so i'm broke as shit but i hope soon i'll be able to fall back into the jewish money streoptype lol heheh.

Jay-Ron

Posted by: jayron [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2006 10:49 AM

Jay-Ron Shalom again... Naeam lifgosh otcha,

You have such anger...this does not benefit you my friend. Just like all cars are not the same, all religions are not the same, all muslims are not the same.

You say "screw u Naseem... i don't buy it! i've grown too smart for your kind to sell me crap".

Com'on Jay..you don't even know me...you will end up liking me most people do ...I'm a business woman (Like Khadija)...I have to learn to keep calm.

You call me whore.... I take it easy...just because you call me that doesn't make it true...you are young and inexperienced, settle down.

Even though you had no right to say that to me....I allow it, and forgive you, you have been through a lot.

The advice I can give you....You are a student with your whole life infront of you...enjoy it...but keep a low profile...don't go out so much...keep a towel in your car at all times to put on your head at the first sig of trouble ...it will keep you safe.

You & me we have so much in common historically, forget... the American and join with your ancient brothers and sisters...there is so much to talk about.

Lehit

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2006 12:17 PM

Jayron, welcome

I guess Nassem forgot what Allah said about us Jews and Christians, so the friendship talk is a trick. Now the other side of that is if she becomes your friend, she would no longer be Moslem, but she would be one of us infidels, the sons of apes and pigs.

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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

Posted by: Bar [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 16, 2006 1:04 PM

Did anyone notice that picture of Ronald McDonald getting burned? This better not affect 1st quarter numbers b/c its one thing to kill innocent lives its another thing to screw with a mans portfolio.

Posted by: hova [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 11:17 AM