12 cartoons resulted in 45 dead muslim protestants....you do the math.
I say we need millions of cartoons.

Posted by: adela at February 19, 2006 7:37 PM

And what did those lives end up standing for? Over-reaction, unhinged anger, and hatred.

Way to leave your mark on the world. I guess it's easier than doing something benevolent or constructive.

Posted by: Shinoliite at February 19, 2006 7:45 PM

man,and were spending billion's on fighting them,i bet with a couple thousand dollars,we could fill up some b-52's with cartoon's of muhumid getting freaky with a camel,they would kill eachother and we would be done with em.I say the danes should elect that cartoonist.as the next president

Posted by: patriot at February 19, 2006 7:48 PM

And still our government tells us that Islam is a religion of peace.

Coming to a theatre near you.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at February 19, 2006 7:49 PM

oops,i meant to say we would drop the cartoons over muslim lands

Posted by: patriot at February 19, 2006 7:49 PM

Off topic :
Why this happens in "secular" India?
And there is no uproar on this issue ? WHY ?

http://www.sanatan.org/en/05/Protests/MFHusain/paintings1.php

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4694272.stm

http://www.ibnlive.com/article.php?id=5533§ion_id=3

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HB11Df06.html

Posted by: sutasuta at February 19, 2006 7:58 PM

Before this gets out of hand let me point out that some killed were not partipants in the riots but victims of mob violence.

Posted by: AnneCrockett at February 19, 2006 8:02 PM

Letter from a friend living in Texas, German family that came to the USA, Vietnam Vet---

Marvelous Herman, the chip doesn't fall far from the block.

Frank

From: "Herman
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:49 PM
Subject: Please take the time to read this, no matter political party

My daughter sent this to me,I AM proud of her...Herman

Subject: Please take the time to read this, no matter political party. Please take a moment and read this piece - truly important.

"This is for everyone to read regardless of your political affiliation. I had no idea who General Chong is or the source of these thoughts... so when I received them, I almost deleted them - as well-written as they are. But then I did a "Google search" on the General and found him to be a retired Air Force Surgeon of all things and past Commander of Wilford Hall Medical Center in San Antonio . So he is real, is connected to Veterans affairs, and these are his thoughts. They are worth reading and thinking about (the same Google search will direct you to some of his other thought-provoking writings.) If you would like information on General Chong, go to Google and type in his name (Major General Vernon Chong). All of the following is something that everyone should read."

General Cong:

This WAR is for REAL! To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its
existence, as we know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII). The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the
fact that there are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize what losing really means.

First, let's examine a few basics:

1. When did the threat to us start? Many will say September 11,2001.

The answer as far as the United States is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with the following attacks on us:

* Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
*Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
* Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
*Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York, 1988;
* First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
* Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Militarycomplex, 1996;
*Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998;
* Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
*Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
* New York World Trade Center 2001;
*Pentagon 2001.

(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist attacks worldwide).

2. Why were we attacked? Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened during the administrations of Presidents
Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no provocations by any of the
presidents or their immediate predecessors, Presidents Ford or Carter.

3. Who were the attackers? In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.

4. What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%.

5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful? Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that the predominately Christian population
of Germany was peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also Christian), that made no difference. You either went along with the administration or you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis for political reasons(incuding 7,000 Polish priests). (see http://www.nazis.testimony..co.uk/7-a.htm) Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as the six million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and weseldom heard of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world focused on
the Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing anyone who got in his way of exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world - German, Christian or any others. Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the
US, but kill all in the way -- their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else.

The point here is that just like the peaceful Germans were of no protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims there may be, they are no protection for us from the terrorist Muslim leaders and what they are fanatically bent on doing -- by their own pronouncements -- killing all of us "infidels." I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the choice was shut up or die?

6. So who are we at war with? There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than the Muslim terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid verbalizing this conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win if you don't clearly recognize and articulate who you are fighting. So with that background, now to the two major questions:

1. Can we lose this war?

2. What does losing really mean?

If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions. We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the major reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the answer to the second question - What does losing mean?

It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means hanging our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about our business, like post Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can get.

What losing really means is: We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will not subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead, not just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have produced an increasing series of attacks against us, over the past 18 years. The plan was clearly, for terrorists to attack
us, until we were neutered and submissive to them.We would of course have no future support from other nations, for fear of reprisals and for the reason that they would see, we are impotent and cannot help them. They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will be increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn't matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops from Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train and told them
to withdraw the troops. Anything elsethey want Spain to do will be done. Spain is finished.

The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they might see the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished too, in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us. However, it may already be too late for France. France is already 20% Muslim and fading fast! If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life
will all vanish as we know it. After losing, whowould trade or deal with us, if they were threatened by the Muslims. If we can't stop the Muslims, how could anyone else? The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are completely committed to winning, at any cost. We better know it too and be likewise committed to winning at any cost. Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing?

Simple. Until we recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of our thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to take that 100% effort to win.

So, how can we lose the war? Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by "imploding." That is, defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize
the enemy and their purpose, and really digging in and lending full support to the war effort. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to be divided, there is no way that we can win!

Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the life and death seriousness of this situationPresident Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation. Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men between 17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow profiling. Does that sound like we are taking this thing
seriously?

This is war! For the duration, we are going to have to give up some of the civil rights we have become accustomed to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our civil rights temporarily or we will most certainly lose all of them permanently. And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil rights during WWII, and immediately restored them after
the victory and in fact added many more since then.

Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him? No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political Correctness, and all of our civil right during this conflict and have a clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them out of your head. Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see us
lose. I hasten to add that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is because they just don't recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that
conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are divided andweakening. It concerns our friends, and it does great damage to our cause.

Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best
what I am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving the treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our military police.
These are the type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing their own people off buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out their tongues and otherwise murdering their own people just for disagreeing with Saddam
Hussein. And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed 400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the
same type enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and dragging their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq. And still more recently, the same type enemy that was and is providing videos to all news sources
internationally, of the beheading of American prisoners they held. Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days have thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some Muslim prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their charred corpse through the streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them. Can this be for real?
The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the Secretary of Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack of comprehension and understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and death struggle we are in and the disastrous results of losing this war, nothing can.

To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned -- totally oblivious to what is going on in the real world. Neither we, nor any other country, can survive this internal strife. Again I say, this does not mean that some of our politicians or media people are disloyal. It simply means
that they are absolutely oblivious to the magnitude of the situation we are in and into which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us, for many years.

Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels! That translates into ALL non-Muslims -- not just in the United States, but
throughout the world. We are the last bastion of defense. We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant.' That charge is valid in at
least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all those who attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back, we can defeat anything bad in the world! We can't! If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive, and no other free country in theworld will survive if we are defeated.

And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedomof the press, equal rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal status or any status for women, or that have been productive in one single waythat contributes to the good of the world. This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or we will be equated in thehistory books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman Empire. If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books to be written or read.

If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims take over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase the Muslim population of France and continue to encroach little by little, on the established French traditions. (NEVER THOUGHT OF THEINFILTRATION SCHEME, PROBABLY WORKING HERE RIGHT NOW. BET THEY INTEND ON INHERITING THE FRENCH'S NUKES, THEN WHAT?) The French will be fighting among themselves, over what should or should not be done, which will continue to weaken them and keep them from any united resolve. Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?

Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct piece by politically correct piece. And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown, worldwide, that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to themselves, once they are in power. They have universally shown that when they have taken over,they then start brutally killing each other over who will be the few who control the masses.

Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about the "peaceful Muslims?? I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. I hope now after the election, the factions in our country will begin to focus on the critical situation we are in, and will unite to save our country. It is your future we are talking about! Do whatever you can to preserve it.

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After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves, but our children, our grandchildren, our country and the world. Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal, and that includes the politicians and media of our country and the free world! Please forward this to any you feel may want, or NEED to read it. Our "leaders" in Congress ought to read it, too. There are those that find fault with our country, but it is obvious to anyone who truly thinks through this, that we must UNITE!"

Posted by: Frank at February 19, 2006 8:06 PM

yes,i did see that.they beat to death a priest and 3 children.lovelly people them muslims

Posted by: patriot at February 19, 2006 8:08 PM

Islam don't fear freedom of speech, it fears the truth. They didn't plan on the west making fun of the reaction of a few hundred thousand protesters. We were supposed to be scared and impressed by thier love of ol mo. I have warned my friends about islam for years and never got anywhere with my pc friends. I thank God (the real one not allah)this mess happened, I am getting calls from folks who are starting to wake up and take notice. Thanks mo, couldn't have done it without ya bro.

Posted by: Ronin at February 19, 2006 8:08 PM

"What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%."
-- from the letter by General Vernon Chong quoted above

No. The Muslim population is at most 15%. That leaves 85% of the world that is Infidel. But those Infidels are to a great extent unaware of what Islam is all about. They have not studied the texts, nor the history of Islamic conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims. They receive no instruction from the press, or from academic centers now thoroughly infiltrated by a kind of Islamintern International that carefully favors its own, with apologists for Islam, once entrenched through tenure, making sure to do everything they can to hire, and then promote, other apologists for Islam, and to keep out all those who are not such apologists, but perhaps even those who insist on telling the truth about Islam and its history.

Posted by: Hugh at February 19, 2006 8:13 PM

Before this gets out of hand let me point out that some killed were not partipants in the riots but victims of mob violence.

Mea culpa, Anne. Somehow that's easy to lose track of, possibly because of the lingering memory of the Quran-desecration riots last summer, wherein the main victims (if not all) were the rioters themselves, if my memory is correct.

Posted by: Shinoliite at February 19, 2006 8:15 PM

Hugh, I have always wondered where the 1.2 billion muslims came from. Has anyone done the research to verify that number? It seems to me as fast as they get themselves into conflicts the numbers would be dropping.

Posted by: Ronin at February 19, 2006 8:27 PM

Kind of reminds me of:

The Darwin Awards : Evolution in Action by Wendy Northcutt

http://darwinawards.com/

Posted by: Foehammer at February 19, 2006 8:28 PM

Ronin

You would think that would be the case, however they usually have around 5 offspring.If they lose, say, 2 of those to the infidels, that still leaves 3. Which I believe is more than the average in western nations.

Posted by: McSeamus at February 19, 2006 8:36 PM

Re: Posted by: Hugh at February 19, 2006 08:13 PM

Mr. Fitz (aka-"Himself")-Thank you for any corrections you make.

Sincerely,

Frank

Posted by: Frank at February 19, 2006 8:42 PM

Muslims are the fastest breeding demographic in the world as far as I am aware.

"So where will the children of the future come from? Increasingly they will come from people who are at odds with the modern world. Such a trend, if sustained, could drive human culture off its current market-driven, individualistic, modernist course, gradually creating an anti-market culture dominated by fundamentalism--a new Dark Ages."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007760

Posted by: Foehammer at February 19, 2006 8:43 PM

I guess birth control is probably frowned on.

Posted by: Ronin at February 19, 2006 8:46 PM

Actually, I've read several statements by Muslims that make it clear that producing more babies is one of the top priorites of any Muslim family. Allowing polygamy in many Muslim nations also doesn't hurt their chances either. And the fact that they do not have the taboos about age differences for males to females that are common in Western culture goes even further towards this reproductive boom.

It is obviously a strategy for quietly overwhelming the infidel nations. And I hate to say it, but it stands more than an average chance of succeeding.

Posted by: Foehammer at February 19, 2006 8:52 PM

Well...if they didn't use condoms in the 7th century, there's no reason to start now.

Posted by: McSeamus at February 19, 2006 8:53 PM

i love this chick

http://deeyah.com/media.aspx

every muslim she be made to watch this

so if anybody,know about any pro-muslim blogs
please,give them this link

Posted by: patriot at February 19, 2006 10:31 PM

look at this link,scoll to the bottom

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm

Posted by: patriot at February 19, 2006 11:13 PM

45 deaths - A good investment if it will help further expose islam. It would certainly be comforting to hear Bush say, "You know, I have been wrong about islam. It is not a religion of peace".

In fact, it is not a religion, but an ideology.

Posted by: 00Buck at February 19, 2006 11:37 PM

Birth control is strictly forbidden in Islam for any reason, even the health of the mother. Likewise abortion. Women are expected to breed until they reach menopause and it is not uncommon for muslim women to have ten or more children.

I have read about muslim men with multiple wives who did not know how many children they had, their names, or their ages. Yet muslims have the audacity to preach the "family values" sermon to us while they are breeding tribes of strangers; children with a rotating father who comes around once a week for a roll in the hay with their mother. That scenario is their idea of a perfect family that produces healthy, normal children. No wonder their spawn are dysfunctional; no wonder their entire society is dysfunctional. The Bedouin Arab culture, imbued in every Islamic society, should be extinct but muslims cling to the most archaic and inimical concepts of this anachronism.

This aberrant definition of a "family" correlates perfectly with the Islamic devaluation of human life. Children are the by-products of male lust, not mutual love. They are not important enough to have a full time father and must compete with dozens of half siblings for his love and attention. They see their mothers as inferior beings because they could not command the devotion of their father, forcing him to seek other wives. Male children learn the "inferiority" of females at an early age, vis a vis their own mothers. This is the heart and soul of Islam--female subjugation and male superiority. If this ugly, demeaning tradition could be broken, Islam would either reform or die.

Muslim women living in the West could break the back of Islam if they would act collectively to demand equal rights. When they began their maniacal rampages, muslim males could be stopped in their tracks with bullets. What a lovely thought!
But sadly, most muslim women are as devoted to the horrors and inequities of Islam as the males.

Posted by: Susanp at February 20, 2006 12:21 AM

Don't ya just love it how the western press elites invariably now describe all Muslim rioting as "protesting cartoons" and the like. Such 'coverage' has become a caricature itself, of pathetic media denial of the real forces at work. With friends like these, who needs Al-Jazeera?

Posted by: Rasberry_Danish at February 20, 2006 1:01 AM

Rasberry_danish,

Don't ya just love it how the western press elites invariably now describe all Muslim rioting as "protesting cartoons" and the like. Such 'coverage' has become a caricature itself, of pathetic media denial of the real forces at work. With friends like these, who needs Al-Jazeera?

You are right. The media is no help at all. If we are at war, we are losing. We have lost in Afghanistan, we have lost in Iraq and we are losing at home.
We can not do much about Iraq and Afghanistan, but at home we can. Pressure should be put on all media to lift up the standards. Fear is not an excuse.
Israel is another battle we can win by letting our politicians to know the real public opinion. If muslims lose in Palestine, they will start losing on all fronts.

Posted by: pong at February 20, 2006 1:53 AM

Rasberry_Danish-

What cartoons are you talking about?

I haven't seen any cartoons shown in the main stream media.

I've heard mention of these vile, hated, scurrilous, defamatory things, obviously so heinous, hideous and shocking that the average peace-loving, moderate Muslim is driven out of the gentle minds at the mere sight of them.

They are so inflammatory that we poor Western infidels cannot even be allowed to gaze upon their inherent Gorgon-like horrible-ness.

I so understand the poor rioting Muslims.

These cartoons much be incredibly provocative!

Good thing the all-knowing presslords don't dare show them to us.

Our delicate sensibilities must be preserved like the hymen of a child bride destined for Mohammad.

Oh, thank you presslords!

Thy wisdom almost matches the "holy" Muslim "prophet"'s!

(If we should even glimspe them at oblique angle, I've heard, we will end up like Lot's wife.)

Praise be to the presslords!

Keep these demonic cartoons from soiling our weak and undependable retinas!

May all good things rain down upon these munificent masters of mass communication!

Like rose petals falling upon the naked 9 year old child Aiyesha, before she was taken as a "bride" by the pedophile "perfect" man!

We should never see the cartoons, because it would only distort our opinion of the matter.

Ignorance is the safest course!

Oblivion the best blessing!

Nescience our God!

Perhaps hatpins in our eyes would help, too?

Posted by: profitsbeard at February 20, 2006 1:55 AM

Frank,

General Vernon Chong should make a personal phone call to Sec. of Defense Donald Rumsfeld who, on Friday Feb. 17 on the Charlie Rose talk show, said emphatically: "The number of Muslim extremists is very small -- the vast majority of Muslims are moderates!"

Posted by: Dr. Pepper at February 20, 2006 1:56 AM

Remember these people are still living in the 8th century. Should we be surprised if they behave like vikings and other 8th centure cultures?

Posted by: restitutor orbis at February 20, 2006 5:18 AM

Hello all,

You already know my views on the hiers to world, I have already talked about project WOLFI (World of little & few Infidels).

Foehammer's URL post was revealing saying the same sort of things. I don't really understand why I get stick but the URL post is considered truthful.

If you want to see a model of the future ....look at Berlin of the past. Infidels may not build the walls (or they may, dhimmis have got to work after all) but they will group together in pockets in each country prior to Europe being modelled to countries like Egypt.

Your childrens will be the minority and will read about the old Europe in books.....much like you do today about "christian" Egypt.

Future muslim saints will be buried in Eurabia, it will be muslim holy land....the land with the greatest density of Korans and mosques...even more than the ME.

Posted by: Naseem at February 20, 2006 5:19 AM

Do you think the danes can make a animated version of Mohammed with head bomb, like to see it explode!!!. Actually I know avery good flash and design nerd. I get him to make one and distribute on net. After this, all the muslims just might riot and kill one another, and worlds problems solved.

Posted by: Sunni-London at February 20, 2006 6:15 AM

We will make sure that Mohammedan infil-traitors take the bones of their forefathers with them. And we will burden each one of them with the stones of the minarets and the mosques and the madrassahs when we send them back to Africa.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at February 20, 2006 6:27 AM

...and after that we chase them out of Africa...

Trust me, Nasseem, I wouldn't lie to you.

Here I stand, the one and only Sheik yer'mami, the only Prophet;

The very, very last prophet, by the grace of the great big Allaballawallah, my prophecy will come true:

Your filthy profit Mo, who believed a pimple on his ass made him a prophet, will be forgotten like the sand in the desert, along with the misguided fools who believed his drivel. It (the Mohound belief) will vanish in the ozone, along with Mecca and Medina, along with every coffee-filter wearing, kaftan-clad, henna-dyed, beardy Mo-hound impostor/emulator until peace on earth and sanity prevails...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at February 20, 2006 7:32 AM

"If you want to see a model of the future ....look at Berlin of the past. Infidels may not build the walls (or they may, dhimmis have got to work after all) but they will group together in pockets in each country prior to Europe being modelled to countries like Egypt.

Your childrens will be the minority and will read about the old Europe in books.....much like you do today about "christian" Egypt.

Future muslim saints will be buried in Eurabia, it will be muslim holy land....the land with the greatest density of Korans and mosques...even more than the ME."
-- from a posting by a self-described member of the Ahmadiyya sect

The mental gyrations, the expressions of confusion mingled with doubt mingled with Muslim triumphalism (as above) based on Hitlerian predictions of a Muslim takeover of all of Europe, of this poster are revealing and useful.

While other representatives of the phenomenon do not, not being Ahmadi (Qadiani) Muslims who are always in danger of persecution by the real thing, tend to be less confused, and more singleminded in their Defense of the Faith, which is why they tend not to remain at this site for long, once they discover how disturbingly well-informed many of its Infidel posters seem to be (and they keep quoting so copiously from Qur'an and Hadith and even discussing details of Muhammad's life -- and that is always hard to deal with, hard to refute), or because their usefulness as exhibits has been deemed at an end, "Naseem" will always find a place here.

A study -- not in scarlet -- but in mental disarray, the kind that in non-Muslims might be considered a clinical case but here may simply be offered as one more example of someone tugged one way, then another, then still another -- and all because of this continued confused adherence to a belief-system at times dimly recognized for what it is, here and there, and then that recognition is too troubling to accept, and is stoutly denied. All in the course of a single thread, or a single day's posting.

What Infidels should focus on are not the occasional displays of semi-comprehension and even expressions of worry by an Ahmadi (should Islam triumph anywhere, the Ahmadis will be among the first to be wiped out) but the visions of the Total Triumph of Islam nonetheless clung to, as demonstrated in the posting above.

Posted by: Hugh at February 20, 2006 7:56 AM

True - True

What an utter waste!!

45 dead over some cartoons no one in the Western would have even remembered.
________

What a complete and utter waste!!

Posted by: Pass It On at February 20, 2006 8:58 AM

If I've managed to annoy Naseem, then today is a good day.

Posted by: Foehammer at February 20, 2006 9:27 AM

Let the good times roll.

Posted by: JanuaryMan at February 20, 2006 9:40 AM

Well...if they didn't use condoms in the 7th century, there's no reason to start now.

You elitist Westerner! Didn't you read Karim's long-winded post (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/010303.php#c179067 ) about how Islam invented everything we thought the West did? ;)

You only think Dr. Condom invented them for Charles II of England. The word is rooted in Arabic (not that we'll supply an example, just trust us) and was invented by in the year 420 by Muslims 200 years prior to Islam (again, trust us, they were very clever!) under the guidance of scientist and azl pioneer Ghiggiti-Ghiggiti al-Bounci.

Posted by: Shinoliite at February 20, 2006 10:44 AM

I've said it once, I'll say it again. If Islamofeces were stupid, it'd be a compliment to them bacause it would mean a step up the evolutionary chain. These Muslims are the only people that when they help their cause, they hurt their cause.

Posted by: Ironman Hondo at February 20, 2006 11:18 AM

Let's do some simple math....one cartoon equates to 4 stupid dead muslims...not a bad ratio.
Start the printing presses.
Naseem...care to wander into my neighborhood with your terrorist attire?? You'll notice a little red dot on your forehead. That's about all you'll notice till you drop.

Posted by: Siciliano at February 20, 2006 5:10 PM

Siciliano Assalamu Laikum,

The muslim will come to all neighburhoods....but in peace...as your neighbour and they will play with your childrens.

As the infidels childrens reduce in number..we will be there....keep the coffee warm.

Posted by: Naseem at February 20, 2006 5:31 PM

In the Name of GOD

Having seen these cartoons my opinion of most of them is that they are for the most part childish; the one that seems to have caused the most offence is a satirical depiction of Muhammad, making him and what he stands for synonymous with violence. This is the message the artist is making.

Whilst this may be blasphemy to Muslims I defend the artist’s right to make that statement because Muslims themselves believe that Jihad is the way of Muhammad and it is his example, Muhammad advocated violence constantly, the historical incidents are in the Koran and the Hadiths, many Muslims would say that I misunderstand Jihad (an inward struggle) yet the principle teachers of Islam whilst they are marginalised by the so called moderates,( who seem to have after so long decided to show themselves after all these years).

Abu Hamza Al Masri described how Muslims should embrace Jihad, and men who were able financially and physically could go on jihad missions, and if they died they would be martyrs, those who could not go because of health could take part in jihad too by financially supporting those who could go, and those who had no money could also take part in Jihad by praising and supporting those did go, and also by talking down the harm done to those who criticised the concept of Jihad of the sword.

From a Christian point of view this places Muslims in a serious sinful situation, as we believe that we become contaminated by another’s sin if we do not speak out and denounce it, the Catechism of the Catholic Church is very clear on this subject.

1. 1869 Thus sin makes men accomplices of one another and causes concupiscence, violence, and injustice to reign among them. Sins give rise to social situations and institutions that are contrary to the divine goodness. "Structures of sin" are the expression and effect of personal sins. They lead their victims to do evil in their turn. In an analogous sense, they constitute a "social sin."
• http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p3s1c1a8.htm#V

The teachings of Christ explicitly denounce those who pick up the sword and both Christianity as well as Judaism follow the commandment given to Moses, “Thou shalt not kill” yet Muslims praise the death of “infidels”, in Bali, New York, London, etc.

In my opinion (which I am free to argue) Muslims cannot start to call themselves “moderate” until they reject all violence both here and abroad, and reform Islam so that Jihad is the greater Jihad spoken of by Muhammad, by that I mean the interior disposition of a religious being to apply moral judgement to his own person. I reject those (as Muslims) who seek salvation by violence, because Muhammad in Sura 46:9 admitted that he could not guarantee anyone’s soul (or his) after death, therefore lesser Jihad is an evil.

The same cartoon that depicts Muhammad’s teaching to violence cannot be refuted by those who support ‘Moderates’ as Ken Livingstone does in bringing in Yusuf Qaradawi to speak (and teach) to moderate British Muslims who gathered in London to be told that suicide bombers are legitimate martyrs, even though they kill innocents which may happen to be Muslims too. Has anyone actually understood Livingstone’s position in all this mayhem, he has endorsed Qaradawi’s edicts (with a proviso that religion is the root of all evil) “Yes Suicide Bombers are a legitimate tool of war, as Palestinians have no WMD’s” he has said, without understanding that Palestine is not the only target. We are in the Muslim land of War (the dar el harb), and we are not engaging them with the rules of war we are addressing them with the rules of criminal Law.

I can quite see why Mr Livingstone has kept a low profile we have a politically correct mayor who applauded acts of barbarity as long as they were on Jews, yet who stood cringing about the circumstances of 7/7 on the streets of London when his own actions encouraging suicidal acts of martyrdom to our own Muslims, which blew up in his face.

Today we seem to be having Christian churchmen taking the moral high ground distancing themselves (and their money) from Israel; it’s time they too spoke up about what is necessary for peace. This involves honesty, why should we in the west suffer because Arafat, and Hamas have refused all attempts to negotiate peace, holding the Palestinians themselves to ransom, and creating a maddening concentration camp environment for these people.

Posted by: breadwinner at February 20, 2006 6:11 PM

You know I happen to like my coffee hot with lots of cream, like the one my wife is making for me, but not because I beat her...or would.

You know Naseem, I grew up in a different country than where I live now where Mohammedans were disliked simply because of their pushy manners, or rather the lack thereof.

Although I always gave each Mohammedan the right to prove everyone wrong (because I believe in treating everyone as an individual until they prove otherwise) they blew it every time.

You said: "The muslim will come to all neighburhoods....but in peace...as your neighbour and they will play with your childrens"

I even went so far as to see that take place years ago, however, you were wrong on two counts. The part about "but in peace" doesn't last very long because it is not easy to keep from being hostile when that is your very nature.

The second count was that when you mentioned that "they will play with your children(correction made to your originial rendering of the word)", well I have to say that on one street, after just a few short months, nobody wanted their children playing with these Mohammedan's children, because our children don't like to be bullied, and that comes very natural to your kind unfortunately.

It is only natural for you to be that way after thousands of years and then also by being influenced by such a force of evil which then compounds the natural tendencies that you expose very quickly for what you truly are and cannot hope to play cloak and dagger for too long.

I do not say this with any malice, but it is the truth and I hope that The God of The Jew and of The Christian will one day open your eyes to see the truth. I would be the first to embrace you then and only then, as a brother and as a friend, but you make yourself the enemy of God, however much He still loves and shows His mercy to all.

PJ

Posted by: PJ at February 20, 2006 6:19 PM

In the Name of GOD

Having seen these cartoons my opinion of most of them is that they are for the most part childish; the one that seems to have caused the most offence is a satirical depiction of Muhammad, making him and what he stands for synonymous with violence. This is the message the artist is making.

Whilst this may be blasphemy to Muslims I defend the artist’s right to make that statement because Muslims themselves believe that Jihad is the way of Muhammad and it is his example, Muhammad advocated violence constantly, the historical incidents are in the Koran and the Hadiths, many Muslims would say that I misunderstand Jihad (an inward struggle) yet the principle teachers of Islam whilst they are marginalised by the so called moderates,( who seem to have [after so long] decided to show themselves after all these years).

Abu Hamza Al Masri described how Muslims should embrace Jihad, and men who were able financially and physically could go on jihad missions, and if they died they would be martyrs, those who could not go because of health could take part in jihad too by financially supporting those who could go, and those who had no money could also take part in Jihad by praising and supporting those did go, and also by talking down the harm done to those who criticised the concept of Jihad of the sword.

From a Christian point of view this places Muslims in a serious sinful situation, as we believe that we become contaminated by another’s sin if we do not speak out and denounce it, the Catechism of the Catholic Church is very clear on this subject.

1. 1869 Thus sin makes men accomplices of one another and causes concupiscence, violence, and injustice to reign among them. Sins give rise to social situations and institutions that are contrary to the divine goodness. "Structures of sin" are the expression and effect of personal sins. They lead their victims to do evil in their turn. In an analogous sense, they constitute a "social sin."
• http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p3s1c1a8.htm#V

The teachings of Christ explicitly denounce those who pick up the sword and both Christianity as well as Judaism follow the commandment given to Moses, “Thou shalt not kill” yet Muslims praise the death of “infidels”, in Bali, New York, London, etc.

In my opinion (which I am free to argue) Muslims cannot start to call themselves “moderate” until they reject all violence both here and abroad, and reform Islam so that Jihad is the greater Jihad spoken of by Muhammad, by that I mean the interior disposition of a religious being to apply moral judgement to his own person. I reject those (as Muslims) who seek salvation by violence, because Muhammad in Sura 46:9 admitted that he could not guarantee anyone’s soul (or his) after death, therefore lesser Jihad is an evil.

The same cartoon that depicts Muhammad’s teaching to violence cannot be refuted by those who support ‘Moderates’ as Ken Livingstone does in bringing in Yusuf Qaradawi to speak (and teach) to moderate British Muslims who gathered in London to be told that suicide bombers are legitimate martyrs, even though they kill innocents which may happen to be Muslims too. Has anyone actually understood Livingstone’s position in all this mayhem, he has endorsed Qaradawi’s edicts (with a proviso that religion is the root of all evil) “Yes Suicide Bombers are a legitimate tool of war, as Palestinians have no WMD’s” he has said, without understanding that Palestine is not the only target. We are in the Muslim land of War (the dar el harb), and we are not engaging them with the rules of war we are addressing them with the rules of criminal Law.

I can quite see why Mr Livingstone has kept a low profile we have a politically correct mayor who applauded acts of barbarity as long as they were on Jews, yet who stood cringing about the circumstances of 7/7 on the streets of London when his own actions encouraging suicidal acts of martyrdom to our own Muslims, which blew up in his face.

Today we seem to be having Christian churchmen taking the moral high ground distancing themselves (and their money) from Israel; it’s time they too spoke up about what is necessary for peace. This involves honesty, why should we in the west suffer because Arafat, and Hamas have refused all attempts to negotiate peace, holding the Palestinians themselves to ransom, and creating a maddening concentration camp environment for these people.

Posted by: breadwinner at February 20, 2006 6:26 PM

Having seen these cartoons my opinion of most of them is that they are for the most part childish; the one that seems to have caused the most offence is a satirical depiction of Muhammad, making him and what he stands for synonymous with violence. Whilst this may be blasphemy to Muslims I defend the artist’s right to make that statement...

With defense like yours, we may just as well slash the cartoonists throats.

To a frame, the cartoons were faithful to Allah and Mohammed, much as are Osama bin Laden, Zawahiri, Zarqawi, and several hundred million other scumballs now infecting this earth.

What's childish is your disregard for factual reality, not that you lack company in that.

Oh Lord, may God please save us from the Unrealists!

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at February 20, 2006 10:38 PM

It's a grim milestone!

/LLL

Posted by: MegaTroopX at February 20, 2006 10:46 PM

Nassem sostupid...Muslims in my neighborhood will not go far as they will be condidered CHILD molesters not players just like your dimwitted prophet.

Posted by: Siciliano at February 21, 2006 1:16 PM

Breadwinner - comparing Gaza to a concentration camp isn't such a great analogy, to put it politely. It's the sort of thing Redken would do. Or John Simpson.

Posted by: Animus Fox at February 21, 2006 1:36 PM

Alarmed Pig Farmer

Blasphemy in Christian language does not automatically assure someone of a violent death, unlike Islam, Our Lord never once threatened anyone who blasphemed with death and his most telling statement about it is "Every sin of blasphemy will be forgiven, but he who sins against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, either in this world , or in the next". In fact if he had called for the death of those who disagreed with him his whole message would have folded in his own lifetime, it seems Jesus was aware of the right we have to make independant decisions of what is or is not GOOD.

Animus Fox

Palestine is a self made concentration camp. It's police are thugs who are a law unto themselves, and they bring disaster after disaster into their community but are never blamed by that community. whilst their territory becomes a wasteland their neighbours have to build walls to keep them out, isolated and broke they turn on minority groups for cash.

Breadwinner

Posted by: breadwinner at February 21, 2006 6:37 PM