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February 21, 2006

Three Ohio men indicted for jihad activity

More Methodist extremism. "Toledo-Area Men Arrested for Terrorist Activity," from WTOL.com, with thanks to Erick Stakelbeck:

TOLEDO -- A federal grand jury has indicted three Toledo-area men for terrorist activities. Prosecutors say the three conspired to wage a "holy war" against the United States and coalition forces in the Middle East. The indictment was unsealed Monday....

According to the indictment from the US Attorney's office, the suspects are Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi, and Wassim Mazloum. The indictment says all three were living in the Toledo area. Amawi is a citizen of the US and also a citizen of Jordan. El-Hindi is a naturalized American citizen who was born in Jordan. Mazloum is a legal permanent resident of the US, who came here from Lebanon.

Mazloum also operated a car business in Toledo with his brother. The indictment accuses him of offering to use his dealership as a cover for traveling to and from Iraq so that he could learn how to build small explosives using household materials.

The indictment also names an unindicted co-conspiratory called "The Trainer," who has U.S. military backround in security, and bodyguard training.

In count 1 of the indictment, prosecutors say the three met together many times, going back as far as November 2004. The three reportedly conspired to recruit and train others for a violent jihad against United States forces and US allies in Iraq. They also reportedly put together the funding needed for the operation, and collected the equipment needed, and even travelled together to a local indoor shooting range for target practice.

Posted by Robert at February 21, 2006 2:05 PM
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It sure sounds like Methodists, to me? Did any of this involve covertly playing card games whilest stone-cold sober?

Posted by: 00Buck [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 2:16 PM

These guys obviously were top notch sleeper agents!Lock these bottom feeders away and throw away the key.

Posted by: McSeamus [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 2:21 PM

"It is only 200km (125 miles) from Kabul to Khost, but Afghanistan's capital has little control over this rugged border province.

"Government officials in Kabul say well-armed fighters cross regularly from next-door Pakistan, but admit they can do little to stop them."


DVD role in Afghan insurgency

Posted by: Yojimbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 2:36 PM

That doesn't make sense - how can they be a "sleeper cell" and "actively recruiting" at the same time.

Also what have they been doing since Nov 2004? What bars or mosques have they been frequenting? How did they perform this "recruiting" work?

Posted by: Roland [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 2:36 PM

Hmmm anyone think a "moderate muslim" turned them in? It's sort of like the lotto, the chances are very very low but hey it could happen.

Posted by: Ronin [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 2:38 PM

The cumulative effect of uncovering jihadist sleeper cells should fix the identity of the enemy on the minds of the American people. It is not an anonymous "Terror" that wars against us but an ideology that uses religion as a cover.

Posted by: unicorns62000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 2:42 PM

"The Trainer" turned these men in.

Posted by: Kim Priestap [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 2:45 PM

"The Trainer" turned these men in. That doesn't make him a moderate, maybe a patriot in hiding or possible he just has second thoughts. I really don't care as long as they got them and use them to find thier friends.

Posted by: Ronin [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 2:59 PM

I hope this wakes everyone up to the realization of why they are here.

It's not because of our beautiful parks, scenery, cities or even a better life for themselves. How good is it to be on welfare??

They are here for one reason, to bring the down America.

I shudder at the thought of living in a third world country.

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 3:33 PM

"Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi, and Wassim Mazloum..."
-- from the article above

Who are these people? How did they get here? How can they possibly, given what is in their mental makeup and has been for their entire lives, be loyal citizens of the United States? They may have sworn allegiance, but that is a different thing. They are a threat to the well-being and security of every Infidel in this country, and to its laws, and to its government.

It is not hard to know what is in their minds. Simply read, and pretend to accept, what is in the Qur'an and Hadith, and know what Muhammad did and said, Muhammad the Model for All Mankind, and hence models as well for Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi, and Wassim Mazloum. Accept it all, as a total system. You don't have to go to the mosque. You don't even have to pray. You need only identify yourself as a Muslim, to think of yourself as a Muslim, to be willing to defend and protect Islam from too-knowledgeable or prying Infidels, and you are then an instrument of the Jihad. And so, objectively, you are a threat to all those Infidels who do not agree that "Islam is to dominate and is not to be dominated." No, do not agree, and are not about to throw out the legacy of an advanced civilization and society, whatever its many faults (let's not forget them, those faults) is far superior, in every conceivable way, to the primitivism offered by the Complete System of Islam.

Why are they here?

They hate our laws. They hate our politics. They hate our customs. They hate the way "our women" assert themselves. They hate the way Christians and Jews seem not to realize that their natural position should be one of humiliation and degradation, appear not to realize that Islam is supreme. They do not like a thing about us, the Infidels or the Infidel nation-state. Their pulse does not quicken when they hear the names "Franklin" or "Washington" or "Jefferson" or "Madison" or "Emerson" or "Thoreau" or "Melville" or "John Chipman Gray" or "John Jay Chapman." They despise the Bill of Rights. They cannot countenance our art, endure our science, or the way we think, or our senses of humor. There is nothing at all in the United States that they would not change, if they ever got the chance. They have been living to destroy us.

What are they doing here?

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 3:36 PM

No, they can't be Methodists. There is no evidence that they brought any "covered dishes" of food to eat at the function, so they can't be Methodists. Baptists, maybe.

Posted by: texan [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 3:37 PM

I only have a minute to post, but so much to say. Much more later, of course, but I'll start by saying "Holy crap!!!"

The big point for now: One of them is a current student at the University of Toledo, and another a former student. This being my hometown university (from which I hold 2 degrees and many happy memories), I'm pretty steamed right about now.

UToledo has had a problem for years with a reputation as a degree mill (particularly in engineering) for international students, with shady financial aid practices suspected under a former dean and univ president who was a native of India. Looks like the chickens just came home to roost on that.

But countless other universities share the "Toledo Problem," as it became known, to some extent. The $64K question is always How many more are there?

Lends a bit of irony to the UT fight song:

"U of Toledo, we'll fight for you;
U of Toledo, for the gold and blue;
Men of the varsity, the enemy must yield;
We'll fight just like our ancestors and march on down the field!"

We'd friggin' better.

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 4:53 PM

With apologies to CSN&Y (and those of you over a certain age):

Tin Sheiks and Osama Bin Laden

We're finally on our own

This summer I hear the drumming

THERE MORE IN OHIO.

Gotta get down to it Jihadists are cutting us down

Should have been down long ago

What if you knew them and saw them dead on the ground

How can you run when you know ?


THREE MORE IN OHIO...

THREE MORE IN OHIO...

THREE MORE IN OHIO...

Posted by: omvi [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 5:42 PM

Add this to the fact that they just shut down a muslim charity, KindHearts, here in Toledo. In both cases, they already have people claiming complete innocence.

Shinoliite, as a business grad from UT, I always thought that the engineering college had a good rep. Of course, that was a few years before you.

Posted by: Terrahawk [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 6:16 PM

Anyone know the difference between a "naturalized American citizen [who was born in Jordan]" and a "legal permanent resident [who came here from Lebanon]"? How can you be a legal permanent resident without being a citizen?

Posted by: saturnine [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 6:39 PM

saturnine: you get a green care and then within five years you can apply for citizenship. Resident just means you live in a place. you can be a resident in the United States and just be on a student visa. Permanent residency means you've declared your intention of staying here and the government has approved it.

Posted by: former liberal WF [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 7:25 PM

Interesting tidbit on this from FoxNews:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185551,00.html

The indictment also notes that a fourth person, referred to as "the trainer," was a U.S. citizen but was not named as a conspirator. One official told FOX News that law enforcement was tipped to the activities of these three men by this informant, who is an ex-U.S. military man who fought overseas and was living in Toledo. He is described as "a respected member of the Muslim community" who came forward and gave information to the authorities.

The plot thickens on "the trainer." Is he or isn't he a co-conspirator? Did he work "undercover" by himself, or was he initially in on the plan, and then changed his mind? Did one Muslim actually step forward and turn in others who were plotting jihad?

The Muslim community and its apologists will certainly try to spin it as such, but it will be interesting to see how the info about "the trainer" shakes out over the next few days.

I only wish I were in Toledo now to observe firsthand how the local media handles it.

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 7:46 PM

Let's just say that the aren't pounding it yet, but the attorney from Cleveland and Chief Bell (Toledo fire chief) have talked about how the muslim community helped. Right now though it looks like the main one who help was the mysterious trainer. On one local board, one person has already brought up how this shows that the muslim community doesn't support terrorism.

When I mentioned that the terrorists were following one of the mainline interpretations of the Koran, I got the typical all religions have violent factions moral equivalence.

Posted by: Terrahawk [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 21, 2006 8:44 PM

Do we need any more examples of why our immigration system needs to be reformed NOW?!!

I don't shudder at the thought of living in a third world country. I shudder at the thought of what we will need to do to survive as a nation.

Posted by: Stuka [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 22, 2006 8:42 AM

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