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Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald explores the madness of the Dubai port deal:
Even if every reviewing committee that examines the Dubai port deal declares that there is "no security threat," there are nevertheless three considerations.1) The Administration, and the government generally, no longer can be trusted to know what is best. The warnings before the 9/11 attack were clear; Condoleeza Rice's attempt to fudge all of that should not be forgotten. The Administration and the State Department suffer from the same myopia that, 30 years ago, led to an inability among their predecessors to figure out that Saudi Arabia was not our "staunch ally" -- and that an energy policy needed to be forged that would cause the price of oil to go up because we would tax ourselves, and not wait for the Saudis to raise prices. That could have saved, oh, about a trillion dollars (for more on this, google "Posted by Hugh" and "recover oligopolistic rents"). No "security threats" today does not mean that there will be no "security threats" tomorrow.
2) People living in New York and Baltimore will be made distinctly uneasy knowing that their ports are controlled by a company whose owners are Muslims from the United Arab Emirates, a collection of statelets -- Abu Dhabi and Dubai being the best known -- which are full of people who loathe us as Infidels. Some of them are distinctly unpleasant. All kinds of ruling families and the others who rule the economic and political roost in the constituent statelets of the U.A.E., for example, seemed to find nothing morally wrong, were in deed indifferent to, those thousands and thousands of tiny children, often under the age of 4, snatched from their Pakistani or Indian or Somali or Bangladeshi homes, brought to the U.A.E., trained under horrible conditions to be tied on the backs of camels, and during either the training, or in the actual races, were so often maimed or killed on the spot. (When the outside world began to notice, and to protest, and only then, did the U.A.E. begin to substitute robots for those tiny sacrificial slave-jockets). After all, who cared -- they were from Pakistan and Bangladesh and Somalia; they weren't Arabs, they were expendable, and camel races are such fun, after all. That is the level of moral development in the United Arab Emirates.
3) We now witness the spectacle of Bush using, for the first time, his power to veto, in order to protect the United Arab Emirates -- instead of agreeing that Americans are perfectly justified in mistrusting, and wishing to discourage, any Arab control of any sensitive business. We would not dare to sell the running of any airports to, say, an Algerian company, or a Saudi company, or any other Muslim-owned company, would we? Why are the ports different?
This deal has symbolic importance. To Bush, the symbolism is: we have nothing against that fine religion of Islam, and in the "war on terror" which is all we are told, repeatedly and idiotically, we are fighting, the U.A.E. is a "staunch ally." This attitude, this desire to curry favor with Arabs and Muslims, will always get us in trouble. It gets us in trouble as we overlook so much of what Pakistan, that incubator of the Taliban and its diplomatic and military supporter, pretends to fight on our side against Al Qaeda while half the Pakistani army, at least, would choose Al Qaeda over the Infidel Americans any day, and 85% of the Pakistani population would readily do so.The phrase "War on Terror" is a good example of what is wrong with Bush's view of things, and of the way he has failed to educate the public. He is timid and ignorant. He cannot identify the enemy but merely one of the tactics of the enemy. He apparently does not know how to use synecdoche.
Someone please send him Arthur Quinn's little handbook "Figures of Speech."
Meanwhile, CAIR is attempting to bludgeon Congress by claiming that opposition is "anti-Arab bigotry." Let them try to bludgeon. But if Bush shows he cannot figure out that many people in this country are far ahead of him in comprehending the nature and menace of Islam, and at this point it is doubtful that he can, he should simply get out of the way, shut up, and not dare to use that veto. We are all getting fed up with his obstinacy and inability to figure things out, and to respond coherently, articulately, cleverly. I don't care that he came out of Andover and Yale knowing nothing. That's his problem. But he has been President for five years. His inability to come to grips with Islam, to stop being sentimental about a "world religion," can no longer be hidden or explained away. The large-scale presence of Muslims in the Lands of the Infidels, behind what they themselves have been so clearly taught to regard as behind enemy lines (the lines of Dar al-Harb, as opposed to Dar al-Islam) has everywhere created a situation that for Infidels is much more unpleasant, much more expensive, and much more physically dangerous, than it would be without that large-scale presence. Bush cannot bring himself to even think a thought like that, or to begin to study Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira as those whose duty it is to protect us should be doing. He should have been devoting his time not to reassuring the UAE, or calling its ownership as innocuous as would be such ownership by the British, but instead he ought to be moving heaven and earth to rally NATO around Denmark (remember "an attack on one member of NATO will be considered an attack on all"?), and to standing up for, reminding the Western world of, the principles of individual liberty enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and every one of which is flatly contradicted by the Shari'a. He should be having the Pentagon and the State Department (not its Arabists, but its Europeanists) and the C.I.A. figuring out how to campaign, as they once did in Western Europe (remember the Congress for Cultural Freedom and Encounter magazine -- the best use of C.I.A. money conceivable) undertaking a vast effort of pedagogy to counter, and end, the influence of the Islamintern International at the U.N., at the E.U., in the European press and television, and in halting, and even reversing, the jihadist presence in the Lands of the Infidels.
He doesn't have to say it all quite the way it has been said above. But he has to grasp its undeniable truth.
Posted by Robert at February 22, 2006 6:49 AM
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There is something curious here: All those people who went into hysterics over profiling- kerry, pelosi, dean, academia, fading hollywood celebs et al, are now profiling an entire country over this issue. I have to wonder if Bush isn't doing this deliberately to undermine the opposition. However I still think this is a Very Bad Move.
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at February 22, 2006 7:03 AM
Will the veto trumped by a congressional override of the veto hurt us in the middle east. You bet. If they get too mad, we can let them bid on airport security and airport management next. 1001 ways to be a good dhimma. Bush is not crafty or smart by two. Witness the nomination of a mediocre moderate crony for the supreme court--after campaigning that he would pick justices in the model of Thomas. I can't see w going to the mat on this. He's got 100 % of the democrats against him(is it political? what isn't), and 94 % of the Republicans against him--some--I might add--with more venom than the democrats. It isn't easy to run for office with such a slogan . . . apply free market reforms to our ports--trust me. This just won't wash. This issue won't walk away. It will grow. I think the overwhelming majority of the US population(most of which will never get 100-200 thousand dollars a speech(Gore, Niel bush, Bush Sr, Carlyle group), lobby the Turks(Henry Kissinger or Brent Scrowcroft0 or will cash out as all Saudi ambasadors have. Of course THEY want the deal. It's good for business. We know these people. Didn't Bush Sr. call Bandar good people after he invited Bush's divorced daughter to his 'Virginia ranch' after her divorce? That's it. They're good people. Right? Let's see though 3000 Americans had their throats slit, buildings smashed and burned in a 3000 degree inferno by some of these good people?
And these good people will have access to our security. By their ownership rights, we will be assured they will assume a hands off basis on their running the ports. Right. Afterall, they're good people and are battle is against the terrorists NOT the good people of a great religion. Right? I think I've got it now. I think we should send Karen Hughes out on another listening tour.
Folks, after Aghanistan, we're playing the respond game. Our taking the intiative has been fraught with so many potential issues and stances we have to take. Can we act freely against Iran? Would are troops be held hostage? Is this war taking our blood, our treasure, our money--oh, lots of that, for democracy for a people who will spit on the last marine to leave the roof of the embassy. I think there is much more about this detail not publically known--and will never be. There has got to be another reason for W to support this. I don't trust W. I don't trust his spokeman. I sure as hell don't trust Condi. His spokesman are paraded on Fox this morning with the 'trust us' routine . . . 'don't be racist.'
The same mentality that describes a war against terrorism, who takes off his shoes in a mosque, how talks of tryanny as the enemy and freedom as the cure . . . this lack of even being able to identify the enemy . . . to be so shortsided on Islam . . . is the same gang--the same mental makeup that ok's the Dubai deal. Comforting isn't it.
I'm a conservative. Bush is never going to run again. Yea, he'e be better than Gore or Kerry(some choice?), but he's ruining his own legacy to make kissy face with the religion of peace. There is a f@#ck#ng difference between an English company and one from the UAE. Call me racist. Call me a bigot, but this is getting ridiculous. Who supports him? The arabs and some anti-semetic peanut farmer who's never found an Arab he doesn't want to play kiss face with.
I wonder if W's hero Sir Winston Churchill would have sponsered 'German private companies' or the 'German Government' manage the port of London. Oh, it's not the same thing. Right. They're are our allies. Right. Like the Saudis. Good people. What's that--Nick Berg's head's off his spine, Hamas wins in "Palestine," 50 murdered in cartoon rage-induced frenzy, Heads rolling off spines of Christian girls in Thailand? Americans jumping out of 2000 degree office spaces after that UAE pilot made a wrong turn, the trains in Spain? Nothing here to see folks. Good people all. Move right along.
Posted by: biorabbi at February 22, 2006 7:31 AM
METROSPY -
Holy Hate Mail (last updated 02/19/06)
February 12, 2006
To MetroSpy
F*ck the US and their citizens for their stupidity, naivety, arrogance and ignorance. I am a staunch opponent of all violence and lake of sensitivity, but slowly I start to understand the peoples' view outside the US, about a bunch of largely uneducated, uninterested, overweighed and uninformed *ssholes. - René
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To: MetroSpy
These T-shirts of prophet Mohammed is not acceptable. Please take it a way. This is like invitation for terorists to attack your country. Islam is very peacful relgion.
From: medawi2005@gmail.com
To: MetroSpy
Bush....International terrorist....Viva Chaves
From: laldert@uol.com.br
To: MetroSpy
I'm looking a favor from you guys ....if you would please eliminate this picture from you goods because its very embaressful in term of relagion. If you do that it would be a great appreciated. thanks a lot.
From: surfsub420@yahoo.com
To: MetroSpy
These pictures are about a leader of religion, pressing pictures on t shirts means that you will conflict with all muslims you. Could not think healtly you are very silly. I am from Turkey, I know that you are producing t-shirts which have the pictures of our the Prophet Muhammad. We are very angry and we want you to stop this work. Becouse you are making fun with our sacred. This is very dangerous, be careful.
From: brkylmz@yahoo.com
Dear workers and stuff of Metrospy,
Could you tell us why are you doing that to Muslims...!!!! Most of you are gays and your sisters are lebians. Your moms too....This is your civilisation...I thing -- Bye!!
From: ddihcar@yahoo.com
To: MetroSpy
PUBLIC WARNING! -- The fanatical Christiano-fascist organization known as Metrospy has been linked to terrorst activities throughout the world. This ultra-rightwing
organization has been spreading a message of racial hatred while promoting assassinations through their goon squads who pose as T-Shirt salesmen. It is believed
these fanatics will stop at nothing short of Civil War. How forgetful of me. Of course I want 500 of those T-Shirts showing suspected Metrospy employees desecrating Muslim graves. I hear some Mosques have been attacked in Canada. Do your employees venture there?
From: MANXMAX@aol.com
To: MetroSpy
May the website owner please send me an email on themechanical_engineer@hotmail.com, I would like to chat with him about something that I consider personal.
From: thecute_devil@hotmail.com
To: MetroSpy
Why you are a blind as bat? Why money is your god? Why you are a server of devil? Why you lie yourself? The messagers of god are innocent? I advice you for reading Mohameds'life and think with your humman mind seriously? I am sur you will discover a true if you are a humman .....Mohamed is a great prophete for all messagers of god and for all hummanity not for Arabs only...read his life if you are a great people...
From: azoulafateh@yahoo.fr
To: MetroSpy
I think you can even sell our your mamas only to get some money. The world is not enough safe because people like Usama!
From: cemyildiz@estonya.net
To: MetroSpy
About funny caricatures. Hacking as soon! I will waiting.
From: serkan_real@hotmail.com
To: MetroSpy
I know how you love to make fun islamic values. It is impossible to change your ideas about islam. You will just go on supposing them terrorists who love to kill innocent people. This earth, this life is your heaven so I advice you taste it as much as you can. In deed, you also know how much your politicans,troops are cruel on muslims...Muhammed is a perfect man sent by God who accepts and trust.
From: mkara_tr@yahoo.com.tr
To: MetroSpy
You are all lower than low. Whale turds are actually a higer form of life than you people. I hope you all are happy when the jack botted facists you so love, kick in your door and take all your equiptment for printing things since it will obviously be illegal to print anything not approved by your masters close you mouths and open your eyes dummies!!!!
From: oregoncrazyman@msn.com
Oregon Crazy Man is a funny character. We actually know a little about this guy. His name is Tom. He lives in Medford, Oregon. He's in his mid-forties. When he talks about whale, he should look in the mirror 'casuse this dude is all blubber and then some. We've also heard from his neighbors that he lives alone, with no prospects and walks around his house buck-nekkid!
To: MetroSpy
I am a muslim living in Turkey. I have been very sad when i saw your Mohammed cartoons t-shirts. Perhaps, you will be able to selling these products, but are you aware of how you hurted our hearts?
From: meti96@yahoo.com
To: MetroSpy
You really idiot to promote such product this mean that your business is not promising. You to fight billions of Muslim.
The only thing we say our religion is our fighting priority. Just say stop this silly slogan We pray to Ban this cheap business. Your hater.
From: monabdt@yahoo.com
To: MetroSpy
You deals with conflicts business. You are mother f*cker terrorism in the world. Huhuhuhuhuhuuhuhuhuhuhuhu
From: wrolan_mohd@yahoo.com
Dear f*cking gay:
You nothing and what u have done it will not mean a lot more ass hole to us.
From: AhmedJour@baj.com.sa
To: MetroSpy
I am sending this e-mail and I hope that you understand that what you are doing is offending more than billion people in this world. I hope that your sales with other stuff be billions but not for offending sixth of the people of the whole
world.
From: mazroary@SABIC.com
To: MetroSpy
You area bad man.
From: meer11@hotmail.com
To MetroSpy:
"Stupid man in stupid place" that all what I can say about you by my weak English. I am just finish a press conference for the British ambassador, and he said "how much he and British people sorry for Muslims because these f*cking caricature and sons of b*tch like you.
I believe that who is nothing like you, hope to have some important or keep some attention, and gain some dollars by repeat what another do. That's all! But believe me we don't care about what you do! You are just a mother f*cker want to be famous. Mohammed our prophet for the world, that is a fact. There is a lot of your writers, American writers and European whom have well educate and study what Mohammed has been know and how much this man was genius and have a respectful behaviors. So you will not afflict him in any way. He is already die!!!! But his reputation and methods still alive. Make one like you thinking about it, and try to defamation them! And you will not influence us more then what the f*cker newspaper do. And that will change nothing, because we respect another religions and that what our religion order us to do. By your way you will clear how much Muslims are respectful. Respect and accept others because the true is we respect others believes.
And you know what, you caused a great influence when your remind us with our prophet and how much he were suffering until we reach these holy religion. So we will work to protect his repetition.
By the way I am a Liberian Muslim, who start pray after your "message", I just pray to god ask him to metamorphose people like you as he done with Jewish before, "metamorphosed them to monkeys and hogs".
Something else, the people who are murder not us, and you can ask Vietnamians and Japanese people whom murdered by American before. And you can try to know what American do now in Iraq. You are the murders but we are not.
In the end, if if if if we have terrorist in our country so that happen by American government help, ask your government whom were pay for extremes possess in Arabic world, who encourage them to pump many places in Egypt and Algeria. Ask those possess in every peace in Arabic world who support you in your beginning. Go and ask your government who pay and rehabilitate Osama bin laden to be militant. Try to read something before taking any side. Hey, don't be ignorant!
From: dua.hammad@info2cell.com
To: MetroSpy
We ask our God Allah to kill and punish everyone says and shows bad thinks about our kind Prophet Mohammad
From: jumashahin@hotmail.com
To: MetroSpy
These kind of behavior reflect the pad image of you American people which is not strange nowadays. Also fore your information you pretend that we are terrorist but we are convinced that you are the terrorist people cause you are always motivate Moslem people to heat you by doing such a thing. Moreover, we will pray to Allah to return you to the right way and the right religion which is ISLAM.
From: sasolami@hotmail.com
To: MetroSpy
I am sorry for your produced. i am sorry for my language ,i am sorry your don't read anything abut this history. I am said because your not new live in Muslims but you must new how you side when to face your god.
From: Ghamdimab@ALJ.COM
To: MetroSpy
I am sorry for your produced. i am sorry for my language ,i am sorry your don't read anything abut this history. I am said because your not new live in Muslims but you must new how you side when to face your god.
From: mkara_tr@yahoo.com.tr
To: MetroSpy
I am Mohamed the messenger of Allah our master and your master are Iehaltgha and Allah is the greatest and will defeat you and the Islam triumphs.
From: walid5@maktoob.com
To: MetroSpy
ALLAH AKBAR , dont be silly muslims have a great power can arise anytime and you will see.
From: h_el_nagar@hotmail.com
Hi *sshole:
Yyour site now banned in arab country sale this shirt to your facking your self.
From: waelisa@batelco.com.bh
To: MetroSpy
......i am muslim person...shameless!!!!!!!!!disrespectfuls...!!!!!!!!
From: ufukaygun28@hotmail.com
To: MetroSpy
I protest you. I think you do this purposly in order to get attention and causing more problems between islamic world and western world. look at the mirror every day and feel sorry for yourself.
From: aykutkaya@hotmail.com
To: MetroSpy
Could you please remove those caricature tshirts from your product list? Dont break billions of hearts and don't get God's anger.
From: gencher@hotmail.com
To: MetroSpy
I want you to know that caricatures heart and bother us, and we are not terrorists because we did not attack any country due to imaginary reasons as others country. What do you do if arabian magazine or newspaper made the same thing to our and your prophet Jesus or prophet Moses?
From: mona_mohammad2005@yahoo.com
To: MetroSpy
Hacking as soon. Wait!
From: serkan_real@hotmail.com
To: MetroSpy
I strongly protest you for publishing the caricatures which include elements of insult toward Islam and of scorn toward Islamic believes. By this attitude, you have proved that you do not have any respects toward Mohamed. One day, mankind will call your ancestors to account for their history of imperialism and massacre in the whole world, and will find out your fascist and dogmatic pagan face. Then, will you be able to defend your shameful actions. The Qur'an tells us not to insult believes and sacred values of anyone. Will you be able to understand the level of humanity in this call?
From: boyalikli@itu.edu.tr
To: MetroSpy
I f*ck you.
From: ramazanbilgin8@hotmail.com
To: MetroSpy
Mohammed is the purest of the mankind breed.
From: sa133@hotmail.com
To: MetroSpy
Your this, do bad manners. Your this do dishonour. God will give your trouble.
From: ilhan56566@gmail.com
To: MetroSpy
You must respect my religion. You can't use my prophet name and picture.you did big mistake and STOP THAT!!
From: vitocuk@yahoo.com
To: MetroSpy
Only 5 days and your company well despier.And I promast. Saalem alqahtani from alqaeeda.
From: t_3_@hotmail.com
To: MetroSpy
I have seen the T-shirt you designed with the caricature on. What I would like to say is (you are putting your f*kin finger in the fire) have your time now but the time is running we will meet ,untell then . Just wait, revenge is in the way.
From: tanoomah@hotmail.com
Dear sir:
Can you please stop to sell The Mohammed Cartoon T Shirt . Thanks
From: atalna@excite.com
To: MetroSpy
We will kill you and burn your shop in shaa allah. I am a moslim and i have force at usa.
From: sahebsahab@hotmail.com
Hello dear:
We boycottig very very bad Beceuse Mohammed is muslim leader dou you now please don't trying short and tshort. Thank you.
From: serdarmizrak03@mynet.com
To: MetroSpy
Will you stop??? We are coming *sshole. You are dead do you know this.
From: mp1001mp@yahoo.com
To: MetroSpy
I strongly protest you since you support the caricatures which include elements of insult toward our Prophet Muhammad and of scorn toward Islamic believes.
From: sukruyilmaz1@gmail.com
To: MetroSpy
Only rednecks buy from this metrospy loser.
From: god@canada.ca
To: MetroSpy
I am politely asking you to stop selling Prophet Mohammed Caricature T-shirt on you website. Please be respectful to all religions.
From: bostonlufatih@gmail.com
To: MetroSpy
Do you know what? F*ck you! Cuz its not good to use feelings and make people kill themselves with selling these silly shirts. Yes I Turkish but you even don't know anything about Turkey. You'll think that we all are ignorant people but, NO! We have great nights all parties and girls and drinks but you suckas think Turkey is what you see on BBC, right?
This is sh*t and f*ck your religions. We dont care about them. But reasons of what people kill theirselves is what we give a sh*t! I love you.
From: siyarozen@yahoo.com
To: MetroSpy
I don't know how should I call you but, I will try to keep my kindness to you even. Maybe you are not aware of what kind of dishonourable thing you are. Picturing our prophet in such an insulting way is a big disrespectful thing for muslims. this is not a thing about speech. This problem is about honour of people. If you have just little piece of human, dont sell more shirts.
From: oguzhantoy@gmail.com
To: MetroSpy
You are dirty man. Still you as cow man. No respect, no religion and no polite. We see forever all USA men come from fornicators or adulterers so we are not strange when hear this from impudent. Go to hell! We will kill you as soon as we meet you at once. Really you are atheist man. Go still to bark for all people.
From: mohamad_ezzat@hotmail.com
To: MetroSpy
If you do not respect Mohammad the Messenger of Allah, you will pay the price for the mistake you make by your hand and I will remind you.
From: a_fadhel@hotmail.com
Dear agents:
Firstly I'm sorry for my English but I will try to explain my demand and critique. You produced a new model.Your subject is our prophet Muhammed. Why was it imperative? Do you have any idea about what will happen? People will start different reaction? Perhaps you will start to earn money. Thats all. But you will remembered not good by all muslims.We are Asian people. We are too emotional. Please dont inclued this terrible play. Some people try to separete us.
From: yavuzkanar@yahoo.com
To: MetroSpy
Sorry you are born in uncivilized country, pity you, may good bless you.
From: noribah@yahoo.com
To: MetroSpy
You are dead mother f*cker. We will keep you staying sometimes and will send you to the HELL. See you next month in your house.
From: toom000@yahoo.com
To: MetroSpy
Your believes & thoughts are less value than this fart.
From: jkhoory@upm.ae
To: MetroSpy
Those who molest Allah and His Messenger, Allah has cursed them in this world and in the Hereafter, and has prepared for them a humiliating Punishment. (33-75) STOP IT!!
From: jkhoory@upm.ae
To: MetroSpy
I Love Prophet Mohammed.
From: idogan@maxwell.syr.edu
I will f*ck you and eat Mohammed.
From: yaydeniz@msainsaat.com
To: MetroSpy
Damn on you!
From: csdfgd@petrokemya.sabic.com
To: MetroSpy
2 days or we killing your family.
From: gost_and_darkness@hotmail.com
To: MetroSpy
First of all, Ii well tell that what you doing is not touch our and also your profit Mohammad because the profit is big
and big and big and big and tthe good.
From: majedsm@yahoo.com
To: MetroSpy
Islam is coming & will role the world.
From: l.kabli@gmail.com
at February 22, 2006 7:33 AM
"3) We now witness the spectacle of Bush using, for the first time, his power to veto, in order to protect the United Arab Emirates "
This point should be in very large bold print!
The President and members of Congress are supposed to represent the American People over the interests of foreign governments.
Consequently:
") The Administration, and the government generally, no longer can be trusted to know what is best"
You folks reading this ought to do something -- you are LOSING your country and I for one don't think that is a good idea!
Posted by: witness at February 22, 2006 8:09 AM
Thanks for weighing in on this one Hugh.
The Harriet Myers obstinacy and blinkers syndrome.
Cannot fanthom why Rummy is backing this - as one of the better thinkers in government he normally has more sense.
If this goes through, we are that much closer to having blood and fighting in our streets, God forbid.
Posted by: dgene at February 22, 2006 9:32 AM
Recognizing that DPI is the 4th largest port operator in the world and apparently has had a lot of success in doing this in nearly 20 countries throughout the world. Some include China, and Australia.
No doubt the UAE is quite unique to many Arab, and Muslim countries. They even built an indoor snow mountain with lift chairs in it,the Dubai Golf classic is held there every year with players like Tiger Woods playing in it, Dubai owns a good chunk of Time Warner, Etc.
However it all still gives me little comfort when noting the countries surrounding it. Australia has ports operated by DPI, but still has put out warning letters to those who may travel to Dubai.
Yes there is still American security at the ports and the US Coast Guard as well as American workers, but the perception that is given simply does not play well. We should manage,protect, and preserve our ports ourselves.
Posted by: Mackie at February 22, 2006 9:41 AM
Keep our friends close. Keep our enemies closer...
Posted by: simi at February 22, 2006 10:17 AM
Headline:
Dubya's Dubai Deal Dubbed Doubly Dubious
Posted by: Dr. Pepper at February 22, 2006 10:42 AM
"Keep our friends close. Keep our enemies closer..."
but giving them legal authority over our personal safety is suicidal and irrational.
Posted by: witness at February 22, 2006 10:48 AM
Well Hugh
I know that you are never going let this issue die. During the past year, I have expressed a differnt take on the Iraq situation. Then you come along and shut everyone out with your 3-page manefesto. I've come to conclude that you are just puffed up in your knowledge. And I walked away. Now this issue comes along. The way I see it everyone seems to be getting caught up in this Democratically hatch scandal. I mentioned my views on another thread from yesterday. So I will not repeat everything I said here.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/010342.php#comments
Here is one of my post:
Let's be sensible about this. Unless we as a nation are willing to get tought on Islam itself and the whole Middle East, we should trust the judgment of the President. The UAE is an ally until otherwise. Until I hear more info that's not sourced from the MSM then I will not pass judgement on the President.
I don't what to hear any talk about impeachment. This affair is much greater than the simplistic version you are hearing from the media.
However, I kept thinking the same thing. What is the President doing? It looks like a trap that he laid out for the democrats. You know, the President could come out and accuse the Dems of being racist and Islamophobes. In light of their previous stance for the terrorist bill of rights the whitehouse could counter.
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And another:
It is not within the duties of the President to turn down deals just because they are Muslim. I support Bush and so should you. I am well aware of Islam but come on officially Islam is a religion of peace. Our laws, I might remind you, forbid discrimination on the basis of religion. There is no grounds to deny this deal. I for one am not going so be suckered into the same democratic talking points that went out the same day. I smelled a rat when the story broke. And when the smoke clears, the dems would have won at dividing and demoralizing the republicans, taking the real story with them. Because some are so blinded by this simplistic view of this. I hope you guys can calm down and see there is nothing the Prez can do at the moment. Maybe someday...
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Did it ever occur to you guys that had Bush turn down this UAE deal that the dems and the MSM would have accused him of being the racist? The tables would have done a 180.
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Thank You for your time. Let me just say that I am truely sorry that I am doing this. But I believe the dems are up to no good.
at February 22, 2006 11:04 AM
The U.A.E. port deal is not going to fly and it should not. The interesting issue is the Dem position on the matter. Observe the flipping and flopping with no attempt to reconcile their position with previous positions even if it contradicts. Whats good for Bush is baaaad. Whats bad for Bush is gooood. What a bunch of chumps.
Posted by: pismopal at February 22, 2006 11:25 AM
There Bush goes playing the "race" card. It's not that the U.A.E. is Arab that scares us, it's that the U.A.E. is Muslim that conjured up totally rational fears.
Posted by: markjames at February 22, 2006 1:17 PM
muslims Don't frighten me - muslims disgust me. They do not belong here; they do not belong anywhere in the West.
Let them have the Middle East - until we have some better use for it.
Posted by: 00Buck at February 22, 2006 2:01 PM
Neither the UAE, or any Muslims, can be "allies" of the USA or any non-Muslim country, ESPECIALLY if those non-Muslims are fighting other Muslims.
THE KORAN itself explicitly COMMANDS:
"O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people." - 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
The President, the Administration, and the government bureaucrats, and politicians of both parties, need to recognize this mortal threat.
at February 22, 2006 2:16 PM
Here is a short list of the evil men that manage DP world, look out boys I see a terrorist attack coming!
Dubai Head Office
Edward H. Bilkey
Chief Operating Officer (Retiring)
George Dalton,
General Counsel
Joost Kruijning,
Senior Vice President
Operations
Matt Leech,
Head of Business Development
at February 22, 2006 2:24 PM
lonely_soul said
I've come to conclude that you are just puffed up in your knowledge.
And you are puffed up in faith and blind loyalty to a man who is making major political and foreign policy blunders.
Let me just say that I am truely sorry that I am doing this.
And I am truly sorry that you put loyalty to a man above loyalty to a nation.
You quoted yourself, but left out the quote where you ask the President to stand firm with CAIR in denigrating anyone who speaks out against jihad. You want GWB to call loyal Republicans and Democrats "traitors and Islamophobes" for the crime of trying to protect their country. Why are you so loyal to a President who consistently calls Islam the Religion of Peace, and a Noble Religion, who kisses Saudi Princes in the Rose Garden, whose very livelihood (after the end of his term) will depend entirely on the strength of his contacts with Saudis and Kuwaitis and UAE? Why are you so loyal to a President who chooses close advisors like Grover Nordquist who supports Islamist causes and who married a "Palestinian" "activist", or David Hossein Safavian who supported Hamas and Hezbollah until his arrest for corruption in a case linked to Jack Abramoff?
Posted by: special_guest at February 22, 2006 3:06 PM
I'm not loyal to muslims. I believe I did talk about Islamophia in my repost. Plus I gave the link. What more do you want me to say?
If you feel Islam is not a religion of peace the proper way to deal with this is contact your representative, hold hearings, repel the civil rights act, maybe a few amendments to the Constitution. Did I mention the energy policy?
In the meantime I thank the Prez for upholding his duty and the laws. He did the right thing. Even the dems if you bother to listen to them carefully aren't calling for the deal to be killed.
Posted by: lonely_soul at February 22, 2006 3:18 PM
special_guest wrote:
"Why are you so loyal to a President who consistently calls Islam the Religion of Peace..."
It's not his constitutional duty to say otherwise.
Here's whats going to happen. This so-called scandal is going to go south really quick. The Dems, with help from the MSM, will square away things with mulims and the ACLU. They will end up with a squeaky clean image. The GOP base on the other hand will be fractured and disillusioned. The end result will be a Ross Perot scenario.
The dems are brilliant.
Posted by: lonely_soul at February 22, 2006 3:32 PM
lost_soul said
If you feel Islam is not a religion of peace the proper way to deal with this is contact your representative, hold hearings, repel the civil rights act, maybe a few amendments to the Constitution. Did I mention the energy policy?
You seem to have the view that our laws preventing discrimination are a weakness for the jihadists to exploit. These protections are not our weakness, they are our strength. There is no civil rights act that says that a company in UAE has the right to have a contract in the U.S. to watch our ports. No amendments to the Constitution are necessary for Congress to pass some simple legislation to stop this sale. I don't have to contact my representative, they are already on the case. They do not need to hold hearings, they can just pass the law.
Unfortunately, this President has given you the impression that we are weak and and paralyzed and unable to counter jihad. In fact, there are many things we can do, simple mundane things, to act. Not to worry, the longest this President can possibly remain in power is 2.5 years. And we already see how the next generation of politicians on both sides of the aisle is waking up.
At www.sfgate.com, a newspaper in San Francisco, there is a poll on whether the contract should go to UAE. Here in a relatively liberal city the answer is 12% yes, 87% no. To ignore those types of numbers a politician would be committing political suicide. The message from JW and Robert's (and others) books is getting out, the jig is almost up, lost_soul.
Posted by: special_guest at February 22, 2006 4:44 PM
Posted by: special_guest
"You seem to have the view that our laws preventing discrimination are a weakness for the jihadists to exploit."
CAIR seems to think they can exploit our good will and our laws.
"The message from JW and Robert's (and others) books is getting out, the jig is almost up, lost_soul."
That's fine but it's not my jig. I never said how I feel about things. And I will not.
"...to pass some simple legislation to stop this sale."
Once again there is no basis to kill the sale. No qrievance from the State Dept. against the UAE. They are still allies who should be treated with respect. No referral from/to the UN. Anyone who vouches for this legislation you call for will have to admit it is because of their disdain for the Islamic religion.
at February 22, 2006 5:15 PM
We need to clarify our constitution regarding freedom of religion. How is "religion" to be defined? How is a "religion" compatible with our constitution to be defined?
The mass-human sacrifice of the Aztec and other mesoamerican cultures, killing tens of thousands of their neighboring tribes' people, annually, was a large and long-standing "religion".
The annual death of 20,000+ murders-by-strangulation by the Thug cult in India, that persisted for centuries, was a "religion".
The headhunters of New Guinea amassed tens of thousands of skulls of their neighbors in their shrine huts. This was the high mark of their "religion".
Western civilization has to recognize, in its constitutions, that NOT all religions are equal, and that SOME religions are NOT to be tolerated to exist.
We are confronted, now, by a "religion" that demands the decapitation or enslavement of those who would not submit to Islam.
The mass slaughter in mesoamerica, the extirpation of the Thugs in India, the suppression of headhunting in New Guinea and elsewhere throughout the world, and even the end to slavery, were accomplished by the force of Western Civilization.
The clash of civilizations is well underway. The two cannot coexist. We have to face this reality and act.
Posted by: elcordobes at February 22, 2006 5:26 PM
lonely_soul said
They are still allies who should be treated with respect.
They may be allies of GWB, but they are not allies of the United States.
No referral from/to the UN.
Once again you show a complete lack of knowledge of how our government works. The UN is not a bogeyman you can use as a tool to continue the jihad. They are irrelevant in general, but particularly in this case.
Anyone who vouches for this legislation you call for will have to admit it is because of their disdain for the Islamic religion.
No, it is because of UAE's history in support of Islamic terrorism. I know in your mind that Islam = Islamic Terrorism, and maybe you're right about that.
Anyways, the deal is not going to happen, there is no need to convince you.
at February 22, 2006 6:10 PM
Posted by: special_guest
"They may be allies of 'GWB', but they are not allies of the United States."
"...you show a complete lack of knowledge of how our government works."
OMG!What am I going to do with you? It you who doesn't have a clue. For you to put these two statements together is just absurd. Perhaps you are right that it is a non-issue that the UN has never had a beef with the UAE. But lets be honest since when did any democrat? What's wrong with this picture?
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/POLITICS/02/22/port.security/story.schumer.02.ap.jpg
"No, it is because of UAE's history in support of Islamic terrorism."
You maybe right but I would like to see official state documents that says they are a problem before I concede to you on this. Every dept. says they are friends.
I looked arond on the web for a dissenting point of view. The only one I could find was this one:
http://www.danieldrezner.com/archives/002595.html
at February 22, 2006 6:38 PM
The deal will go thought as there are terrorist working already in our port under the old compamy.
Background chech donot nessary work in caughting terrorist. There might even be terrorist working inside the Department of HomeLans Screwup.
at February 22, 2006 7:11 PM
Background chech donot nessary work in caughting terrorist.
Sure they do. But it's a matter of standards, not technique.
Just determine whether a person is a Moslem. If the person is, then you've got yourself a terrorist. He or she may be an inactive terrorist, but is active enough to read God's commandments for terror and murder in the Koran, and to study Mohammed's excellent pattern of terror and murder in the Sunnah.
PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH
This crazy deal is the price we pay for keeping up the fraud that Islam is a religion and that moderate Moslems exist. Self-delusion enforces suicidal stupidity.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at February 22, 2006 7:42 PM
Caution and skepticism are in order. Please look at all of my post. I seem to be the only one here ask for restraint.
Posted by: lonely_soul at February 22, 2006 12:25 AM
IF I WERE YOU I'D BE MORE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT MULSUMS REALLY BELIEVE AND STOP BEING SO DAMN PC!!
thats why you seam to be the only lonly fool here see we know about the??
Qur’an 5:17 “Verily they are disbelievers and infidels who say, ‘The Messiah, son of Mary, is God.’”
Qur’an 5:51 “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other.”
Qur’an 5:72 “They are surely infidels who blaspheme and say: ‘God is Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary.’ But the Messiah only said: ‘O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.’
SO THESE THINGS MAKE THIS DEAL ABOUT OUR PORTS TO BE BOUGHT BY A NOTHER GOVERMENT IS WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!
Qur’an 9:3 “Allah is not bound by any contract or treaty with non-Muslims, nor is His Apostle.”
THIS IS WHAT THE MONSTERS ARE TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN
Qur’an 9:3 “And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger to the people on the day of the Pilgrimage is that Allah and His Messenger dissolve treaty obligations with the Pagans.”
WHO ARE THE PAGANS??
Qur’an 49:9 “If two parties among the Believers fall into fighting, make peace: but if one becomes aggressive, then fight against the one that transgresses until it complies.”
WHEN THEY SEE OTHERS JOIN AGAINST THEM LIE LOW ? THIS TIME THE FIGHT WILL BE FINISHED!!
Qur’an 9:7 “How can there be a covenant between Allah and His Messenger and the disbelievers with whom you made a treaty near the sacred Mosque?”
Qur’an 9:8 “How (can there be such a treaty), seeing that they get an advantage, the upper hand over you? They do not pay you respect, or honor you or the ties of kinship or covenant. With (good words from) their mouths they entice you [out negotiate you], but their hearts are averse to you.”
AGAIN WHAT THEY TEACH THEIR CHILDREN!
Qur’an 9:12 “If they violate their oaths and break treaties, taunting you for your Religion, then fight these specimens of faithlessness.”
AGAIN WHO ARE THE DISBELIEVERS??
Ishaq:544 “Muhammad commanded the people to prepare for the foray [raid, incursion, sortie, attack, or assault]. The Messenger informed his troops that he was going to Mecca. He ordered them to prepare themselves and ready their equipment quickly. He said, ‘O Allah, keep spies and news from the Quraysh until we take them by surprise in their land.’”
NOW WHO YOU GOING TO TRUST??
Me I was thinking about Monster Garage last how Europe could take all her air plans and make bombers and the such boy was that a thought or what and think if the Europeans got really pissed at the arabs for pushing them to far?
Just think at 30,000 feet just streaks in the air??
Would the USA come to the rescue??
No zogbe you are pissing on the wrong tree!!
I am so happy today is the First day I got to be a girli girl after breaking my foot Short skirt and high heels what a great feeling!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE WORLDS EYES TO THEIR THREAT LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM GIVE THE WORLD COURAGE TO STAND TOGETHER TO DESTROY THIS EVIL AMEN
PS
Denmark may want to look at the UAE about their down web-sites seams they are big into that kind of thing????
at February 22, 2006 10:13 PM
Your post is indecipherable to me. But let me just break the ice. Islam is officillay a religion of peace. Respected by law. Since the UAE is an ally, the only reason to kill this deal is Islamophia. It's discrimation.
Posted by: lonely_soul at February 22, 2006 10:17 PM
So
Lonly I was right you are a mulsum??
Just another wolf in sheeps wool??
Now you didn't do a very good surch because the State Department has put warnings-ings on travel to UAE and look at the Aussis site as well??
You can call it rasizm but you forget this deal is not just one company buying another company??
NO This is a country trying to buy a company now this is a problem not that we don't like the UAE which depends on the west for it's protection? Just another thing I learned from the State department web site?
You see Americans like fair playing feilds matter of a fact FYI some schools have even stopped playing tag because it just isn't fair.
Well you see this deal is very unfair to let a country to out bid a company.
If the ports need to be devided this is better and put the money back into the US ecomany.
You see I am not worried about the UAE but like when the Japanese were buying up America well you remember the American People just didn't go for that it became the rise of the Great Wal-Mart campain BUY AMERICAN!!
So you see once again the American People are saying BUY AMERICAN
So you see it aint anti arab or they would be saying KICK OUT ALL ARABS IN THE USA.
So there are many ways in which this can be turned down and the Buy American is what the UNIONs will be for.
President Bush needs this country together and this doesn't split the Republicans apart what it does is bring the Republicans together with the Democrats once again like after those towers fell together we stand!!
Sorry that you don't really understand the American People
BUT WE DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT BEING CALLED NAMES YOU SEE WE UNDERSTAND THAT STICKS AND STONES BREAK BONES.
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH,SIGHT, WISDOM, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM AMEN
PS
You see it is the mulsums who have to do the proven not the USA!!
at February 23, 2006 12:11 AM
I can tell you that in the conservative Republican circles in New York that I am a part of, this port deal is an abomination and the gravest mistake that President Bush has ever made.
Let me repeat, THIS WILL DESTROY ALL CREDIBILITY THAT OUR PARTY HAS ABOUT HOMELAND SECURITY.
The talking heads at Fox can spin all they want and it won't change what the majority of conservatives think about this.
IT IS A BETRAYAL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, for some globalization mantra.
Especially two face and wrong has been O'Reilly.
I will never watch his program ever again.
It's time we change the Republican party to reflect the concerns of border security and to understand the war on Islam, it's not the war on terror.
Get Arab money out of the hands of our politicians.
I will not forget this event it had forever changed me!
Posted by: El Cid at February 23, 2006 12:46 AM
You accuse me of not sourcing the facts? It wouldn't take you long to discover that it is indeed a company rather than the UAE govt. buying the ports. Travel advisories are one thing. Cutting diplomatic ties and sanctions are another. So they are still an ally.
You whole post is just a bunch of hot air. I say it again. The Prez doen't conduct the business of the American people. That is the practise of Free Trade. This deal was approved by DHS as well as the CIA before the Prez even knew about it. Of course you always contact your representative and let them know that you oppose the sale. But Congress should just say, it is because the company in question is mainly muslim, they are striking the deal.
Let me ask you this: what if the Prez had opposed the deal before the story broke? Would the Dems be supporting him in the interest of National Security or would they and the ALCU be screaming about civil rights violations? If your unsure then why are you falling prey to the simplistic media spin. Try to keep an open mind.
at February 23, 2006 1:10 AM
El Cid
Calm down. I think O'Reilly is a showman who worries about ratings.
Let me share you two sources of excellent dissents on this issue. Believe they are hard to find.
http://www.danieldrezner.com/archives/002595.html
http://tks.nationalreview.com/archives/090568.asp
at February 23, 2006 1:16 AM
Politicians are weathervanes.
The popular public wind of opinion is blowing NO to the UAE deal -because people are getting tired of the government functionaries kowtowing to the supposed religion of peace's representatives for mere short-term gain, as well as slimy nepotistic business deals and blinded-by-money lobbyists cum officeholders selling us out.
Every day it is more images of suicide bombers, more mosques being blown up by one group of Muslims trying to kill another, infidels attacked and murdered, businesses and embassies and churches burned, rioting crowds carrying placards saying "Kill the cartoonists!", "Behead all who insult the prophet!", "Free speech is western terrorism", ad nauseam.
This is not reassuring the people of the U.S. of the basic sanity of the people of Islam.
So, let them buy hotels or clothing chains or restaurants.
But ports?
It won't flush.
Bush, trying to push this deal through, is just pissing up a rope.
Posted by: profitsbeard at February 23, 2006 1:48 AM
Posted by: lonely_soul at February 23, 2006 01:10 AM
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/010346.php#comments
point proved you are a mulsum and all your rasiset comments won't work!!
And as for the American People not being aginst this deal you are very wrong just like President Bush Pick H. Miers was wrong and the people spoke and Guess what the People won!!
Once again the People are calling their congress and the American People don't want another nation to take over their ports!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM AMEN
PS
Remember it is on the news every night about how savage the mulsums are killing people for what? WE CAN SEE THIS FOR OURSELFS!!
THE MULSUMS WHO HAVE TO DEBATE ABOUT THE KILLING OF IRAQIS AND THE MASS GRAVE THE FACT THAT THE UAE DOES NOT SEE ISRAEL AS A STATE BUT IS WILLING TO SEE THE LEADERS OF THE KILLERS LIKE UBL IS ENOUGH!
Burning businesses and it is the mulsums who have to prove they can get along and the latest CARTOON protest show the American people they can not!!
And paying Gen. Tommy Franks to come out for this deal will do no good we are reminded every day he did not get ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] we love him but he is wrong on letting a nation to buy American Ports and by the way it is not 6 BUT 8??
Posted by: Catherine at February 23, 2006 12:09 PM
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