personal fatwas like this harm our cause

What cause would that be, then?

Posted by: Interested at February 22, 2006 7:55 AM

The Danish Prime Minister has said the unrest triggered by cartoons satirising the Prophet Mohammed now pits the entire European Union against the Muslim world.

#1 There is no "prophet Muhammad" because a false prophet is not  a prophet!
#2 The EU hasn't lifted  a finger for Denmark and I doubt they will. Denmark is pissed that European firms have picked up and stolen some of the trade that Denmark has lost in the Middle East

Posted by: dennisw at February 22, 2006 8:06 AM

'Personal fatwas' as compared to the official fatwas such as the one Rushdie wears on his head?

How about fatwas not being proclaimed in the first place? Care to join modern civilization and quit passing out death sentences on everyone?

Posted by: Dead Infidel Walking at February 22, 2006 8:07 AM

Rasmussen is right of course. So why didn't the leading EU goons, such as Chirac (Supermenteur), Tony (alias Phony), and Javier Solana [Is Solana Pierre Laval's long-awaited reincarnation?], see this months ago? By the way, a bit of good news. Some Muslim states --Egypt at least-- may be seeing that this cartoon affair and all of its attendant violence are harming the Muslims. Egypt has just transferred its former ambassadress to Denmark, Mona Omar Attiyah, to South Africa. Now, she was one of the main instigators of the worldwide Muslim rage. She was written up in yesterday's Il Foglio [21 February 2006].
The link below contains a link to the Il Foglio piece. It also contains an account of the demands presented to Javier Solana on his trip to Arabian lands to appease the furor islamicus.
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2006/02/creeping-pro-islamic-tyranny-danger-of.html

It seems that Condi Rice was telling only part of the story about who was inciting the Muslim riots over the cartoons when she accused Iran and Syria the other day. She was right as far as she went but she deliberately omitted mentioning Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Both of them, Our Good Friends the Saudis and Our Good Friends the Egyptians, were deeply involved in instigating the worldwide Muslim riots. See the link above. Did the US MSM publish anything about the Saudi and Egyptian roles in all this affair?

Posted by: Eliyahu at February 22, 2006 8:22 AM

Rasmussen's musings are wishful thinking more than anything else; he desperately wants to widen the wrath of the Muslim world to encompass Europe so that his tiny country will not be such an inviting target. But save for far-right groups such as Italy's Northern League and Le Pen's National Front, Denmark stands alone.

Political cross-pollination is a fact of life in the West. Just as portions of the Right have been infected with Leftist constructs such as political-correctness, so have portions of the Left incorporated facets of conservativism in order to prosper politically (e.g., just look out how the British Labour Party has abandoned the Trade Unions and carved out a fiscally sound economic program).

It is the Center-Right in Europe and America that must be "turned" in order for the fight against Islam to be mainstreamed. This is where we should concentrate our efforts. Brits should work to transform the Conservative Party; Yanks should work on lionizing the Tancredo wing of the Republicans; Aussies should wholeheartedly support their courageous and politically-incorrect Liberal PM; and the Dutch should work to remove their dhimmified PM and replace him with a philosophical ally of Hirshi Ali (or perhaps with Ali herself).

Posted by: Cornelius at February 22, 2006 8:24 AM

Worse is better. We need more over-the-top Muslim reactions. The worse the Mozzies behave, the more likely it is that Europeans and North Americans will rise up and smash Islam.

I really do think we're going to see civil war in Europe. Personally, I'd be more than willing to take up arms against Muslims in Europe. Our forefathers fought Commies and Nazis in Europe. Perhaps we (or our children) will be forced to eradicate Muslims from Europe?

Posted by: Stuka at February 22, 2006 8:28 AM

Hello all,

I personally think that the cartoon issue actually highlights things far beyond some itsy bitsy fatwas. There are more fundamental problems here. Western civilization (perhaps INITIALLY founded on love of christian values) is being systematically eroded anyway.

The introduction of vile & dirty excesses of homosexuality, uncontrolled divorce, unbridled abortion, frequent sexual liaisons with one (or more) partners and lack of morals and ethics are rotting infidel civilization to the core.

Another example is how the Internet is (effectively) funded by pornography. Now Infidel excesses are the norm for lewdness in all of its guises to be downloaded at will. Bestiality, pedophilia, child pornography and all forms of degrading behaviors are now available for anyone with a credit card (another Infidel invention).

Childrens are exposed to obscene language with teenagers experimenting with disgusting deviant sexual behaviour available using their own (unregulated...AOL anyone....LOL) internet access.

Infidel children have no respect for parents, have been given freedoms well beyond their years....childerns who have lost sacred connections with Jesus (pbuh) and have no love or respect for god (aka those who think that "shepards wash their socks by night").

*The Church has failed the Infidel.* Modern conveniences have taken over, now there are barriers between fundamental christian beliefs resulting in depravity, weakness and lack of moral fibre.

Amrika in particular is starting to have the largest number of impoverished families in the (developed?) world. Amrika has the largest number of people without any medical care, Amrika who have the most obese people in the world....bringing a new meaning to the imfamous line "Hooston ...we have a problem" as Huston has the dubious title of being the fattest city in the world.....their number one seller...Deep fat fryers.

In essence infidel civilization is descending into darkness and they are trying to drag the muslim with him.

The Infidel cannot win the final war without love, charity and morality and these have all broken down without reverse. The Infidel no longer knows who he is or what direction to take his childrens (he even prefers dogs to childrens).

Well we all need to the return to a truthful way of life, one with morals, faith, respect for parents, one where pedophilia, and child pornography is a thing of the past.

I S L A M (praise be to Allah (swt) and his messenger (pbuh)) is the only way forward to bring back humanity back to humans. Cartoons cannot be allowed to drag the muslims down to the lowly levels of the Infidel.

The Mosque and Quaran will not let you down like the church.....Islam is the way forward....convert now at a mosque near you and contribute to bring a new society full of sacred love, respect and prayer to a neighbourhood near you, ...do it.

Posted by: Naseem at February 22, 2006 8:45 AM

Naseem's passport photo....

http://www.hauntedfog.com/images/Morbid/36021.jpg

Posted by: mistyhymen at February 22, 2006 9:12 AM

The EU will not be up to this challenge. It is an almost moribund, and probably criminal, organisation that hardly manages to enjoy the support of 23% of the population at best. The self-perpetuating oligarchy of officials and politicians who actually run the show are incapable of allowing themselves to think, when they do so, of anything other than their salaries, kick-backs and perquisites. If they manage to think at all about the Danish position or the Mohammedans or European security (perhaps in the odd moments when they are not enjoying expense account lunches, dinners, suppers, theatre outings, five star hotels and trips to prime tourist destinations) then their thinking is constrained to the worst type of political correctness that you can imagine.

The Commissioners and officials of the EU have never been noted for their ratiocinative prowess. These are people who are judged capable of doing the job on their abilities to eat, look good on camera, keep their mouths shut and, above all else, do nothing to rock the boat. The vast majority of the population of the EU despises them and the organisation they represent.

Believe me, hell will freeze over before they, or the EU, do anything about the threat to our freedoms and most of us on this side of the pond doubt very much if they will even mouth the usual platitudes in Denmark’s direction. Most of us doubt that they even know what the argument is about!

I received this in an email from the office of the Commissioner for Human Rights - I ask you, what sort of an organisation needs an official for something that ought to be second nature for a western, civilised set-up:
“... for many years already, the Commissioner has called for respect to shown [sic] to all religions and for the freedom of expression to exercised [sic] responsibly.”
The email was signed by John Dalhuisen, Special Adviser to the Commissioner for Human Rights. Well, the argument about ‘responsibility’ versus ‘freedom of speech’ has been discussed in depth on this site and we all know where we stand so I won’t go into that particular canard again. However, I think this demonstrates what we are up against.

Remember, the EU is an organisation that has not managed to have its books approved by its own internal auditors (the Court of Auditors) in the last nine years; further, there has never been a year in the entire history of the organisation (in all its manifold guises) when the Court of Auditors has not had major and grave reservations about the vast bulk of any of the annual accounts. Last year the EU could only account to the Court for 30% of the money that it had been given to spend, and this was a sixfold improvement on the previous year, which, in itself was a sixfold improvement on the year before that, which, in itself was ... oh you get the picture, I'm sure. No reputable external accounting firm would consider the accounting practices of the EU to be anything other than organised fraud on a colossal scale (and some have already said that), and there is much sound evidence to indicate that organised crime is the prime beneficiary of much EU spending.

Every year Governments of Member States, those self-same Governments that are bound by stringent auditing standards that force them to account for quite literally every last ha'penny in their own countries, hand over many billions of Euros to an unelected institution that then proceeds to lose 70% of the funds entrusted to it and, worse, claimed this year that being able to roughly account for approximately 30% (note carefully the order of my words there) was not only a significant improvement but was good enough to satisfy everybody (and here).
You should by now understand the criminal nature of many, if not all, EU officials and exactly what the EU is. It is not a union of sovereign states joining together to promote their common interests; it is, rather, a criminal conspiracy run by many dubious politicians with the sole aim of diverting public money into private purses controlled by, or available to, the said politicians. If you don't believe me then you are welcome to try to find out what has happened to the missing 70%. You won't be able to and if you try too hard many, many unpleasant things will happen to you and yours - and I speak from experience.

It should now be obvious why the gangsters in charge of the EU behave as they do to the Mohammedans. They are only interested in protecting their own ill-gotten gains and, quite certainly, they couldn't give a monkey's toss for freedom or for the future of Europe. One more example - it is calculated that over half of the people working for the EU obtained their appointments fraudulently in some way; that over half of the people working for the EU normally fraudulently claim very much more in expenses than they are entitled to; and that over one fifth of the people working for the EU are not nationals of any EU state.

I have been told, but I have been unable to verify this, that although Mohammedans make up only 3.5% of the population of Europe, at most, some 17.6% of the officials of the EU belong to that cult. If this is true then you can see why I believe that the EU will do nothing for Denmark.

The Commissioners, the unelected oligarchy who control the EU and its budget, have a dreadful record on responding to, or addressing, public concerns. It is quite usual for them, when they deign to answer anyone – which is not often, to dismiss public expressions of concern in tones that are identical to the those used by the aristocratic elites of the sixteenth, seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. Incidentally, no one has ever seen a poor retired Commissioner (or official) – in Europe that is considered to be an oxymoron.

Need I say more?

Posted by: Certiorari at February 22, 2006 9:29 AM

Naseem said, "convert now at a mosque near you and contribute to bring a new society full of sacred love, respect and prayer to a neighbourhood near you"

Sounds good, Naseem. Just one question -- if I can beat my way through the crowds of pedophiles, pornographers and various and sundry depraved obese deviants, and struggle to the mosque door,
will the guys at the mosque love and respect me enough to let me use the front door?

Posted by: Jen at February 22, 2006 9:40 AM

Well we all need to the return to a truthful way of life, one with morals, faith, respect for parents, one where pedophilia, and child pornography is a thing of the past.

Now if only islam's adults can reciprocate their childrens respect by not hanging girls for fighting off rapists, or slitting their daughters throats for wearing western clothing.

Wasnt the founder of mohammedism a pedophile? Well knock me over with a feather!

Posted by: Dead Infidel Walking at February 22, 2006 10:27 AM

Naseem:
Your comments reflect a very limited knowledge of the West. Do you really think our entire society looks like the news headlines and TV shows? If so, you are badly deluded. Most of the values you claim have been abandoned are alive and well without clerical control of government.

We have no need of Islam. It says nothing positive that wasn't already contained in the Greek philosophers, Judaism, and Christianity. The thinkers of the Enlightenment helped us take the next step, allowing men and women to stand upright, a step that has yet to be taken in the Muslim world.

For what does Islam mean but submission? You say submission to Allah, but what is Allah except for what your book and your clerics say he is? Your book has been deconstructed on several of the sites listed on the left of this page; it is clear to any thinking person that the Koran did not come from heaven. About the rantings of your clerics, the less said the better. So why submit? Submission is for dogs, Naseem; stand up and be a free human being! For what do you think a moral G-d would like best, people who live principled lives of their own free will, or people who are forced into slavish obeisance?

Posted by: materialguy at February 22, 2006 10:37 AM

Naseem -

"The introduction of vile & dirty excesses of homosexuality, uncontrolled divorce, unbridled abortion, frequent sexual liaisons with one (or more) partners and lack of morals and ethics are rotting infidel civilization to the core."

What a fevered imagination you have, young lady. You really should get out and about into the fresh air a bit more and meet lots of different people - maybe even a few homosexuals. I know quite a few homosexuals, indeed, I have a homosexual couple working for me (I attended their civil partnership ceremony two weeks ago, and great fun it was too), and they are neither vile nor dirty and they make a huge contribution to the freedoms we all enjoy in the west.

Divorce is not uncontrolled. It is very carefully controlled in order to ensure that people are happy and well fed - but neither of these is a priority in the Mohammedan world, obviously.

Abortion is not unbridled but very carefully regulated in order to allow women to have the final say as to what they do with their own bodies - but women's rights do not exist in the Mohammedan world, do they?

There is no sound evidence that contemporary western society encourages more sexual partners than any other society now or in the past - casual sex happens even in the Mohammedan world but there, of course, it is always the women who are at fault, isn't it?.

There is no lack of either morals or ethics in western society - in fact quite the reverse, but you would not see that because we have real morals and ethics that each of us have had to work out for ourselves, whereas you have only worthless Mohammedan strictures to fall back upon in your world.

No one will convert, my dear girl, because we in the west have grown up. We western humans take responsibility for our own lives and most of us gave up believing in fairy tales written by some under-educated, superstitious desert dweller fourteen hundred or more years ago in favour of working things out for ourselves.

No one needs superstition so give it up, little one. Free yourself; walk out into the bright light of pure thought simply by taking off your superstitious religious blinkers. It really is lovely out here - a little frightening, perhaps, because one has to rely on one's own reasoning and abilities rather than on some ancient books of superstitions, but lovely all the same. Come and join us and breathe the pure air of freedom in the flower spangled upland pastures of the liberated mind.

Posted by: Certiorari at February 22, 2006 10:50 AM

I've given it a fair whack, but just look at how the Koran starts:

This book is not pack of lies and anyone who says otherwise is some kind of wa#*£r - I'm not a wa#*£r but anyone who disagrees with this book is a total wa#*£r, and that's the truth. God says so Himself, and if you don't believe it you're all gonna die, in like really nasty ways, and stuff. This isn't all compulsive lies, this isn't a lie either, everyone else is a lier, if you don't believe it then you're a lier, and this is all true 'cause God says so, which is the truth, honest.

My interpretation, but it's pretty much what it says. Not exactly "In the beggining was the word, and the word was God", is it? Compared to the Bible, it's a juvenile deliquent of a religion, with serious learning difficulties.

Give the Bible a go - if you've ever read the Koran in a language you understood, then you may be surprised at what a good book the Bible is. Try it, just read Genesis and compare it to The Cow... C'mon now, which is the better work? No contest, is it?

Posted by: Animus Fox at February 22, 2006 12:13 PM

Nasseem:

I am curious about that unique muslim practice of "temporary marriage". How does this work? How does one hook up with a nice muslim virgin? Do they wear a burka, so that the women is unrecognizable when the marriage takes place? Or is it like getting the prize in a box of cracker jacks - you don't know exactly what you are getting until you open the box.

Posted by: GFB at February 22, 2006 12:30 PM

Naseem says

"The introduction of vile & dirty excesses of homosexuality, uncontrolled divorce, unbridled abortion, frequent sexual liaisons with one (or more) partners and lack of morals and ethics are rotting infidel civilization to the core. "

So then, in a few years down the road, when the moslems face the West, this is what they will be facing when it gets "down and dirty" in the streets.

The Abu Grabe "atrocities" will be paled by the actions that these undiciplined animals will inflict upon your people, your mosques, and CAIR. Our children kill each other over a pair of sneakers; do you really think that having been brought up with no morale code that they will cheerfully give up, and bow to the strict principles of Mo? When your people start pushing the Crypts, Bloods and Latin Nation gangs, they will show you a backlash that will be a true Armegeddon for you and you people.

You only read what the Liberal News Media shows you. Buy some local papers around the country, and read the police reports. When 9/11 happened, I listened to what some of my liberal friends had to say. If a bigger attack would happen, and be tracable back to the moslem world, the American people would be calling for a bloodbath, and backing anyone who would provide it. People would be lining up at the mosques, but not to convert to islam.

Think your premise through, Naseem.

Sorry, feeling a little snarky today.

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer at February 22, 2006 12:47 PM

"It is very dangerous, personal fatwas like this harm our cause," Mr Ihsanoglu said.

"This fatwa is a wrong fatwa. Nobody should adhere to it because it goes against the essence of Islam and the prophet's teachings. Nobody has the authority to kill anybody," he said.

Note that Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, a historian of science and the most presentable figure that the Muslm world could come up with to head the O.I.C., has lectured to Infidels and explained how wonderful was Islam for permitting non-Muslims to receive the status of "protected peoples" (protected from what he did not say) as dhimmis. Nor did he explain the many political, economic, and social disabilities which dhimmis had permanently to endure.

His first thought, above, is to the "image" of Islam: all these fatwas and mobs and things "harm our cause."

A decent response would have addressed matters of right and universal morality. Not Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu -- it will "hurt our cause."

And after that revealing display of his interest only in image, he compounded things by failing to offer any apology, on behalf of the world's official Muslim body, to the world's Infidels, for the astounding world-wide display, both in Muslim lands and in the middle of London and other Western capitals, of a fanatical intolerance and will to power -- of the belief that Western legal rights have no signficiance, that Islam definitely in the minds of Muslims is, as Muhammad puts it in one of the Hadith, "to dominate and not to be dominated."

No, instead Ekmelledin Ihsanoglu, who comes from a country where Mein Kampf has recently been a best-selling book, and "Valley of the Wolves" (which depicts American soldiers in Iraq as mad--dog killers, guilty of every kind of atrocity, and then a "Jewish American doctor" as mining Iraqi corpses for organs to be sold to rich Americans, a country that still denies the Armenian genocide of 1915-1920, and the massacre of 1894-96, and the Bulgarian massacres in the 1870s that so aroused Gladstone and all of enlightened Europe, and so much more -- this country that is step by step re-embracing Islam and undoing the secularism that Ataturk so systematically tried to introduce by tying Islam down -- this Ihsanoglu indulges in taqiyya of the most obvious kind.

This is what he says, without the slightest hint of irony:

"This fatwa is a wrong fatwa. Nobody should adhere to it because it goes against the essence of Islam and the prophet's teachings. Nobody has the authority to kill anybody,"

What is he talking about? Does he think we Infidels will permanentlly refrain from looking into the Qur'an -- say, Sura 9, or more specifically Sura 9.29? Does he think we will contiinue, permanently, to ignore the more than one hundred Jihad verses throughout the Qur'an? Does he think we will continue to ignore the Hadith, and not start reading the most "authentic" ones collected by al-Bukhari and Muslim? Does he think we will pay no attention to the character of Muhammad, as revealed in so many episodes in his life, set dutifully down in the Muslim versions of his life -- no need to go to William Muir or Tor Andrae or Arthur Jeffery for Abu Akaf, Asma bint Marwan, the Khaybar Oasis, the decapitation of the prisoners of the Banu Qurayza, the Al-Hudaibiyya deception, and so much else?

Do the world's Muslims, or their apologists and defenders, really think that they can permanently prevent us, the Infidels, from finding out what they, the Muslims, are presented with in their immutable canonical texts? Will they continue to attempt to hide them, when they are all on-line? And will they continue to deny the fate of all non-Muslims, either killed or converted or forced to endure the status of dhimmi, one of permanent humiliation, degradation, and physical security, as 1350 years of history show so overwhelmingly and so convincingly, and the evidence of our senses, these past years, months, weeks, and days, only serve to confimr the very worst of our fears?

What kind of idiots do they take us, the Infidels, for?

Posted by: Hugh at February 22, 2006 1:29 PM

fatwa My ass. Deport them.

Posted by: 00Buck at February 22, 2006 1:49 PM

Nasseem is a troll...good passport photo by the way. Soon you will be united with your terrorist buddy Arafat, Moham Atta and the rest of the scum in hell. Again..NO VIRGINS FOR YOU!!

Posted by: Siciliano at February 22, 2006 1:52 PM

Of course Naseem is a troll. Compare "her" post at 8.45 am with this at Faithfreedom.org.

Naseem has copied whole chunks of it, adding a few spelling mistakes, and reclaiming the word "infidel" from the infidels.

Posted by: Interested at February 22, 2006 2:19 PM

Naseem:

I remember one day about thirty years ago, my mother, an international lawyer (yes, she was free to pursue that career in America), told the Jodanian consul (who was discussing how women were VALUED in his country) that it was well known that an Arab would walk over five good women to get to one young boy.

I almost blew my soup across the tablecloth. But it was clear she did not mean to be insulting. Everyone had a chuckle. The consul shrugged his shoulders in agreement and mumbled something like, "Well, you know how it is." It was evident that he, she, and everyone but me, realized that a great truth had been spoken.

After all, if all the women have been taken in polygamy, and the women who are sexually active outside of wedlock are killed for someone's "honor" then the only opportunities left for a man are either masturbation, rape, or homosexuality. Which one does islam recommend? And if a woman testifies as to one of these, what is her testimony worth? What is it worth according to the law and the prophet?

If you do not want to be free, then tie yourself to islam, or tie yourself to a tree, or do whatever you have to do to avoid having to live like a human being. If you can't avoid all those things you complain about, then you have no willpower. Your weakness should not be an excuse to impose your values on America. If you don't like America, then either get your ass out or don't come here in the first place.

And, while you're at it, give up your light bulbs, frozen foods, automobiles, computers, canned goods, and toothpaste. You know they are all supported by obscene advertising that shows women in non-subservient positions. And, of course, quit posting here, as the internet is, as you acknowledge, virtually a creature of pornography. Quit supporting that which you oppose. Otherwise we will have no logical reason to avoid the conclusion that you are a hypocrite.

Thinking people have no need for islam. Islam is an ideology that requires submission to higher authority. Unfortunately for moslems, they do not accept that authority as strictly an ethical or moral one, with all the difficulties of understanding and "right action" left to the individual to ponder and execute, like Christianity or Judiasm or Buddhism or other religions, or even other ideologies such as socialism, or existentialism.

No, moslems take the ancient authority as final in all things, and thereby leave themselves open to two destructive tendencies:

First, islam closes off the inquiry of a free mind. It is not wihout reason that islam can only point to ancient knowledge, old discoveries and inventions of centuries past. Whether or not islam's claims are true (and I believe that most are not) it is certain that islam has demonstrated a complete inability to enlighten science and the arts for at least five or six hundred years.

Secondly, because islam relies on its ancient authoritarian texts and does not tolerate dissent from those texts, it leaves itself open to totalitarian rule at every turn. Moslems are constantly searching for leadership based on the koran, but, of course, this leadership will be authoritarian, and non-collaborative, non-negotiable, non-democratic. Recent elections in moslem areas prove this point. When the choice is free, the free choice is squandered.

So, you can squander your choices if you like. This is your final choice, and your final decision. So, let's examine your final decision, shall we?

Immediately, there is a benefit to submitting to the glories of islam. Once you have totally submitted yourself to islam, you can avoid many, many difficult decisions that non-muslims have to face all the time. Islam is easier on the practitioner than any other religion. It is also easier than non-totalitarian ideologies.

What is this ease that is attractive in islam?
Simply this: Islam, especially for women, provides a ready-made framework for the mind of the individual who is anxious or intimidated by having to make decisions in ambiguous circumstances. Complete submission does bring peace. Peace of mind. You no longer have to worry about whom to marry, what to study, how many children to have, where to live, when to have sex, what foods to eat or avoid, how to wash yourself, how to pray, what to do with your pubic hair, what to wear outside the house, who you may associate with, where you can go, whether you can work, and what you can do. All these decisions are made for you.

Most of us don't like that kind of life. And there is no moral, ethical, metaphysical, or epistemological reason why we should. Sure, some of us like to live in "planned communities" where our houses and yards have to meet certain standards, even down to the color of our paint and the height of our grass, but the choice to do so is freely made, and can be freely undone according to terms known in advance. That is, we can leave our "ummah." Others of us like to take cruises, where our entertainment and meals are part of a temporary vacation, a package deal. But we don't live there.

Some people, perhaps like yourself, have a difficult time with decisions. Forgive me for being so bold, but I believe medical science (that is, more specifically, Western Medical Science) is beginning to demonstrate that a lot of the anxiety experienced in decision-making is related to brain chemistry, which may have multiple genetic components.

Wouldn't that be something? Wouldn't it be enlightening to discover that some people are attracted to "non-decisional ideologies" such as islam due to a genetic component involving, say, serotonin levels or the rate of re-uptake of chemical neurological mediators. What would be the implication for you, if it were discovered that a defect in brain chemistry made certain individuals want to minimize decision-anxiety? Would they be inclined to gravitate to a religion or ideology that minimized that anxiety?

How can you explain the pull of a religion that condones murder, rape, theft and slavery, that was invented by a pedophile, and followed by idiots? That won't purge itself of killers? That cannot draw moral distinctions on either external or internal moral grounds? That values one's "honor" more than a child's life? That practices forced genital mutilation?

Is medical science going to prove that islam is a disease?

And finally, as a Texan, I know all about that foolishness about obesity. Chicago has replaced Houston as the city with the most obesity in America. But so What? What does all that prove except that for the first time since mohammed looted the granaries of arabia, a nation has more that enough to eat? My word! America has been the breadbasket for the world for the last seventy-five years. We throw away more food than most moslem countries ever produce. Last I heard, we were spending about three and a half BILLION dollars a year on pet food. So what? Isn't that about twice as much as islamostan spends on education, and women's health, combined?

Islam is for suckers.

And the war goes on.

Posted by: texan at February 22, 2006 2:58 PM

Islam, Nazism, Fascism and Communism all have one thing in common which accounts for their appeal.
They all eliminate the need for an individual to actually THINK!
In fact, they all eliminate the role of the individual totally, replaced by mindless submission to a totalitarian idelogy.

Posted by: UncleSam at February 22, 2006 9:56 PM

I meant "ideology," not "idelogy."

Posted by: UncleSam at February 22, 2006 10:17 PM

Naseem-

I was just about to go into a mosque, one with such a nice gold-covered dome, too, but a group of your fellow Muslims blew it up.

Guess I'll stick with nature mysticism.

The worst I can get is seagull droppings as I kneel on the beach.

"To see the world in a grain of sand..."

Posted by: profitsbeard at February 23, 2006 1:16 AM