"And there are no suicide bombers who do what they do because of anti-Semitism?

That's a racist notion. No one hates Jews because they are Jews like in Europe, he replies. People have a reason for hating Israelis. You force them to live in refugee camps, and they tell you 'our home is in Ashdod'," he states."

NOW I understand why the Palestinians also conduct suicide operations in Jordan, Syria, and Egypt with the exact same ferocity and hatred as they do in Israel. After all, in those Muslims countries they also are "forced to live in refugee camps" after 3 or 4 generations --

Oh wait... They don't do that...! Hmmm... Then something's wrong with this nazi's premise...

Posted by: jsla at March 3, 2006 1:05 PM

"Equality is the key..."
-- quoting the "Palestinian" maker of a "Palestinian" propaganda film, on his prescription for -- for what, exactly?

"Equality"? How can there ever be Equality between Believer and Infidel? It makes no sense. There is no equality between Believer and Infidel in any Muslim-dominated state, save possibly for Turkey, and there only because 80 years of systematic and sustained attempts to constrain the political and social role of Islam (what is called Kemalism, which substituted the Cult of Ataturk, the Perfect Turk, for that offered by Islam, of Muhammad the Perfect Man).

"Equality" between Believer and Infidel is not what Hamas, hoping to institute Shari'a in the lands it currently controls, has in mind -- which is why the Christians are either leaving or are sinking into fear and despair. "Equality" could not possibly make sense within the worldview of Islam. It would imply that Believers and Infidels are on the same level, possess the same worth. And that is impossible. That is an insult to Islam, and to Muhammad, the Seal of the Prophets. That cannot possibly be.

The "equality" this man has in mind is the "equality" that Islam offers is of quite a different kind. You, the Infidels, ordinarily should be killed or frocibly converted. But since we are kind (and since, in the early days of Islam, when the doctrine was fixed, there were so very many Infidels to rule over,and so very few Muslims to do the ruling), we will allow you to survive,and even practice, within severe limits, your religion. You will be "protected peoples" provided you pay the Jizyah, and wear the identifying garb, and ride only donkeys, and dismount anywhere near a Believer, and do not attempt to be a witness against a Muslim, and do this, and that, and do not do that, and this. If you fulfill all of those tasks -- and the Jizyah is ideally to be paid, nota bene, in a deliberately humiliating fashion so please don't think you can just mail in your check -- you will be protected -- from us.

Posted by: Hugh at March 3, 2006 1:13 PM

His quote "let me die with the philistines" is drawn from judges 16:30. Interesting literary allusion as the arabs living in that part of the world have appropriated the name philistine (palestinian) for themselves.

Posted by: Mr. Arbroath at March 3, 2006 1:46 PM

Great point Mr. Arboath.... And once the affectionate sobriquet of "Infidel" was reserved for the heathens of Islam -- My how times have changed!

Posted by: jsla at March 3, 2006 1:55 PM

The poison inherent in Paradise Now is the sanitized and romanticize picture it paints. Abu-Assad likes to mark it down entirely as the result of "the occupation" and none of it to the poisoned environment carefully cultivated by the jihadists via the mosques, the media and the school system.

And the simple fact that flies in the face of Abu-Assad's assertion is that none of the suicide bombers are Christian "Arabs"*, although many of them are as opposed to any Jewish presence as the Muslim Arabs.

* I know, most of the indigenous Christians are not ethnic Arabs, but a lot of them don't seem to be aware of the fact.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at March 3, 2006 2:42 PM

I realized, Abu-Assad explains, that when a man systematically goes through such humiliation, he chooses to kill his own impotency by carrying out an act of "let me die with the philistines."

I was told this whole time these "Palestinians" were fighting Zionist oppression.
I had no idea that Islamic terrorism was caused by infidels making Moslems feel humiliation. Now does this humiliation stem from the Qur'an and the Moslem dogma of "we are better than you", when the opposite is really true? So this "Palestinian" thing is really just a major Moslem inferiority complex?

That's a racist notion. No one hates Jews because they are Jews like in Europe, he replies. People have a reason for hating Israelis. You force them to live in refugee camps, and they tell you 'our home is in Ashdod'," he states.

Of course Moslems don’t hate Jews that live one thousand miles away, now when it comes to their own neighbors, well it’s a completely different story.

Mr Asswad, correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it Arabs in 1948 that encouraged these "refuges" to flee under the premise that Allah could push Israel into the sea and their merger existence would greatly improve once they got their hands on inferior Jewish spoils?

How do you explain that for 19 years Arabs held the Westbank and Gaza and they didn't let these "refuges" integrate or even suggest that a "Palestinian" state be created. Is that because the Qur'an and Moslems are so peace loving towards Jews or just the Moslem preoccupation with their inferiority complex?

Do you really believe they kill in order to kill Jews, He asks. They are no different than you as people. If you believe they are different, that's racism, he adds.

Well Mr Asswad, I really don’t think they go to Israel to kill Germans.
We are making a distinction between moral values, it is not racism to say his morals are lower than mine. Racism is what Moslems do to Jews, they hate Jews just because they are Jews and Mo-HAM-mad (with Plenty of Brown mustard Upon Him) the best of men also told them to.
Moslem is not a race, so hating Mohammadanism is not racism.

When asked what he believes could be a solution for the conflict, Abu-Assad says equality is the key.

When Mr Asswad says "equality" he is taking about oxymoronic Islameic equality, they type of equality that equates one mans testimony to that of four women in court. Mr Asswad wants the type of equality that says Moslems are the best of people and all infidels will kiss the north end of a south bound Moslem, then and only then will he feel equal.

P.S
Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.
Heinrich Heine., German critic & poet (1797 - 1856)

Posted by: Bar at March 3, 2006 4:03 PM

Bar:

C'mon! They hate Jews everywhere they can be found. If not, how would Abu-Asswad explain Ilan Halimi's murder in France, beheading Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, blowing or setting up the Jewish Community Centre in Argentina, synagogues in Turkey and Tunisia, Hebrew schools in Montreal, etc..

Posted by: waterdragon52 at March 3, 2006 4:54 PM

Waterdragon52

You are absolutely correct, I don’t know what I was thinking, I will call it a Dhimmi moment, sense the other is a bit premature.

Posted by: Bar at March 3, 2006 5:02 PM

"Racism is what Moslems do to Jews, they hate Jews just because they are Jews"

"Moslem is not a race, so hating Mohammadanism is not racism"

Bar, try and stick to logic in your arguments, so that they remain credible

Posted by: atheist at March 3, 2006 5:14 PM

atheist, Bar's grammar is lacking, but his logic is irrefutable.

-Muslims are not of any particular race or from any particular geographic locale. What makes someone Muslim is what he believes.

-Muslims are taught to hate Jews.

-So, since a Muslim is who he is in whole because he believes in the words of Mohammad, and since they are taught to hate a particular race (the Jews), and IF someone hates what they believe (Mohammadism), then the person reacting to this cult of hate and violence is not reacting out of hatred for any given race, or even races, but rather because the Muslim's belief system is abhorrent.

Get it?

Posted by: yohannbiimu at March 3, 2006 5:43 PM

Then the blood libels of the 1840's and so on and so forth are just a figment of the muslims imagination?

And those disgusting venal and hatefilled lies about jews killing christian and muslim kids to drain the blood for the matzoh... the one's shown around the arab world for years now, that's all just a myth?

And those people killed in Europe of late, who are jewish... "No one hates Jews because they are Jews like in Europe" says abu.

And the destruction worldwide, since the 620's is just a misunderstanding?

Ah, I see.
Equality is the excuse they always use. Never justice- not real justice. The miserable bozo, who made the film forgets that the jews have been blown up, homicided and the muslims refuse to stop
- and I doubt he was ever insulted as much as he pretends, unlike his movie insult to millions- but the jews offered peace 100 ways to sunday, and got more hatred, more vicious venality and this clown makes a film and his manufactured excuse about his impotence being the cause.

Isn't that just the usual- you don't give me what I demand- so I have no choice but to kill all of you- and of course,
I go to heaven for a delicious course of pornographic heaven, like all muslims.

Icch

Mark

Posted by: mgoldberg at March 3, 2006 6:00 PM

Mark writes: "this clown makes a film and his manufactured excuse about his impotence being the cause."

Perhaps if he had just gotten a few doses of Viagra...

Posted by: yohannbiimu at March 3, 2006 6:03 PM

yohan, my point was that Judaism is not a race. It is a religion. I'm sorry that you have trouble reading, and that you don't know how to use logic.

Posted by: atheist at March 3, 2006 6:10 PM

atheist

I concede that my grammar is lacking.

Granted Jew is not a race, where did I imply that it was?

"Racism is what Moslems do to Jews, they hate Jews just because they are Jews"

Main Entry: rac-ism
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

My statement is completely correct, Moslems believe they are the best of all people, which makes them a bunch of racists. Perhaps to make you happy I should have expanded on this statement to include all non-Moslems, but that would not have fit the context of the article to which I was commenting on.

So, you were saying something about logic or your lack there of.

Posted by: Bar at March 3, 2006 6:43 PM

atheist

When you get your foot out of your mouth, you should really read this.

Main Entry: race

2 a : a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock b : a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics *the English race*

Posted by: Bar at March 3, 2006 7:02 PM

Bar,
Please note that I am trying to help you improve your credibility by pointing out obvious flaws in your logic and choice of words.

right now, your assertions have been the following:

1. Moslem is not a race
2. Moslems practice racism
3. Racism is defined as "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."

Maybe you were looking for the word "religious zealot" instead of "racist"?

Or perhaps you also meant to assert that Moslems see themselves as being of a single race"?

Please elaborate. You need to improve your argument here.

Posted by: atheist at March 3, 2006 7:05 PM

"2 a : a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock b : a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics *the English race*"

great job, Bar!
Now you are trying to use logic! keep it up :)

Posted by: atheist at March 3, 2006 7:07 PM

Atheist

Thanks, I see your point.

Yes I think that Moslems see themselfs as a single race, the Moslem race, which happens not to be a race, but Moslems don’t really care about details.

Posted by: Bar at March 3, 2006 7:17 PM

So would the director be in favor of people phoning in bomb scares to the Oscars?

By the dozens?

(How many "Palestinian" homicide [suicide] bombers have their been, exactly? 20? 50?)

What's semtex for the goose is semtex for the gander.

Of course, no one in their right mind would advocate such a course.

So will the director Hany phone one in himself?

Posted by: profitsbeard at March 3, 2006 9:00 PM

Speaking of anti U.S. pro terrorist movies check out George (I love Osama) Clooney's latest.

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/charleskrauthammer/2006/03/03/188504.html

Posted by: disciple at March 3, 2006 10:53 PM

atheist wrote: "yohan, my point was that Judaism is not a race. It is a religion. I'm sorry that you have trouble reading, and that you don't know how to use logic."

First of all, you never stated your "point" regarding Judaism, so there was no reading it. I have wonderful reading comprehension, but I cannot read your warped mind.

Secondly, you have a rather ignorant perception of being a Jew, from what I can gather. Hitler wanted to exterminate a race of people, NOT a religion. It was all about BLOOD, not about practice. He killed people because of their FAMILY LINE, not because they worshipped in a synagogue.

Karl Marx was a Jew, not because he worshipped YHWH, but because of his family line, that could be traced back in time. Hitler blamed the Jews for Bolshivism, not because they were spreading their RELIGIOUS VIEWS.

Nobody has said anything about "Judaism," until you mentioned it in your response to me, and yet you expect me to understand that it was what you were talking about? Bar never brought it up, YOU didn't bring it up either, until you responded to me, so as far as I'm concerned, you missed the boat.

I've got everything together. I'd suggest that you get this stuff figured out, because it doesn't seem to me that you have a clue.

Posted by: yohannbiimu at March 4, 2006 2:30 AM

Race is a genetic distinction, not a religious distinction. Please see Judaism 101 at http://www.jewfaq.org/judaism.htm for more details. Muslims hate all non-believers unless they can use them for something, then it is okay to have relations with infidels but the Koran instructs the believers that when their business is done to either convert or kill the infidels.

The director of this "movie" should not be allowed into the US because he is promoting terrorism.

Most of hollywood is to leftist (aka insane) to know any better.

Posted by: BigDaddy at March 4, 2006 9:07 AM

yohan,

Now you are stating that I'm ignorant because I don't believe in lumping Jewish people into an artificial category the way that hitler did?

Posted by: atheist at March 4, 2006 12:26 PM

No, athiest, I'm saying that you have no idea what you are talking about. You are totally clueless. "Judaism" is a modern English term to describe the common religion of the Hebrew people (the Jews). "Jew" is a term that has come to refer to ALL Hebrew people, derived from the people of Judah or Judea in ancient times. The Hebrew people are a distinct people.

Hitler did not invent this "catagory" of persons. The Jews saw themselves distinct and unique among the Earth's population, and throughout history, people have recognized these distinctions. This is an unalterable fact.

You, atheist, have failed to realize, or recognize these historical matters, you do NOT understand "logic," despite what you say to others about it, and you are miserably prepared to engage in any discussion with ME about this subject.

Posted by: yohannbiimu at March 4, 2006 2:26 PM

jsla makes the right point. How come the Muslim fanatics slaughter fellow Muslims, as in Jordan, Iraq, and especially Algeria, where they killed more than 100,000 over a fifteen year period? It seems that bin Laden's gang are just as willing to murder Shi`i Muslims as to murder Jews? So what did the Shi`is do? BTW, I know that some Sunnis blame the Shi`a split on a Jewish conspiracy. Why are Sunnis slaughtering fellow Sunnis in Algeria?

Getting back to Muslim-Jewish relations, the Muslims who dominating Jerusalem 150 years ago oppressed Jews even more than Christians. Consider the testimony of Cesar Famin, a French diplomat, historian, and man of letters --published in 1853.
http://ziontruth.blogspot.com/2006/03/muslim-oppression-of-non-muslims-in.html

Posted by: Eliyahu at March 5, 2006 10:10 AM

There was no State of Israel or Political Zionist movement in 1853

Posted by: Eliyahu at March 5, 2006 10:11 AM