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Of course, they so dearly wanted to be fooled. From the Telegraph via the Sydney Morning Herald, with thanks to Kemaste:
THE man who for two years led Iran's nuclear negotiations has laid out in unprecedented detail how the regime took advantage of talks with Britain, France and Germany to forge ahead with its secret atomic program.In a speech to a closed meeting of leading Islamic clerics and academics, Hassan Rowhani, who headed talks with the so-called EU3 until last year, revealed how Tehran played for time and tried to dupe the West after its secret nuclear program was uncovered by the Iranian opposition in 2002.
He boasted that while talks were taking place in Tehran, Iran was able to complete the installation of equipment for conversion of yellowcake - a key stage in the nuclear fuel process - at its Isfahan plant while convincing European diplomats that nothing was afoot.
"From the outset, the Americans kept telling the Europeans, 'The Iranians are lying and deceiving you and they have not told you everything'. The Europeans used to respond, 'We trust them'," he said.
Revelation of Mr Rowhani's remarks comes at an awkward moment for the Iranian Government, before a meeting today of the United Nations atomic watchdog, which must make a fresh assessment of Iran's banned nuclear operations. The International Atomic Energy Agency's judgement is the final step before the case is passed to the UN Security Council, where sanctions may be considered.
In his address to the Supreme Council of Cultural Revolution, Mr Rowhani appears to have been seeking to rebut criticism from hardliners that he gave too much ground in talks with the Europeans. The contents of the speech were published in a regime journal that circulates among the ruling elite.
He told his audience: "When we were negotiating with the Europeans in Tehran we were still installing some of the equipment at the Isfahan site … In reality, by creating a tame situation, we could finish Isfahan."
Posted by Robert at March 7, 2006 5:52 PM
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Excellent, and I was just going to alert you to this story.
Gee, and I always thought they were honest (NOT)!
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at March 7, 2006 6:08 PM
Oh wow. we need to get out of Iraq now and deal with these people pronto!
Posted by: jawknee at March 7, 2006 6:21 PM
"He boasted that while talks were taking place in Tehran, Iran was able to complete the installation of equipment for conversion of yellowcake - a key stage in the nuclear fuel process - at its Isfahan plant while convincing European diplomats that nothing was afoot."
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There is no punishment under Islamic law for lying to infidels.
Mulsims take great pride in and boast about how easy it is to deceive the infidels and we continue to allow them.
How can you ever believe what a Muslim says is not a lie????
The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice.
at March 7, 2006 6:43 PM
This is news?
I seem to remember MEMRI showing a video of this statement months ago!
It's happening Reg!
at March 7, 2006 6:47 PM
It seems we are not far away from Iran realizing the atomic bomb. With Pakistan already possessing nuclear weapons, the entire region is on the brink of WWIII. Israel will likely be the primary target, but countries such as India and Kuwait are also likely targets. I think we are not far away from a time in which more than a half dozen Muslim nations will have the atomic bomb. We are entering a frightening new age.
Visit my blogs:
http://victimsofallah.blogspot.com/
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at March 7, 2006 6:49 PM
check out this article
EXCLUSIVE: Iraq Weapons -- Made in Iran?
Tue. 07 Mar 2006
ABC News
Intelligence Officials Say Weapons Responsible for Increasing U.S. Deaths in Iraq
By BRIAN ROSS, RICHARD ESPOSITO and JILL RACKMILL
March 6, 2006 — - U.S. military and intelligence officials tell ABC News that they have caught shipments of deadly new bombs at the Iran-Iraq border.
They are a very nasty piece of business, capable of penetrating U.S. troops' strongest armor.
What the United States says links them to Iran are tell-tale manufacturing signatures -- certain types of machine-shop welds and material indicating they are built by the same bomb factory.
"The signature is the same because they are exactly the same in production," says explosives expert Kevin Barry. "So it's the same make and model."
U.S. officials say roadside bomb attacks against American forces in Iraq have become much more deadly as more and more of the Iran-designed and Iran-produced bombs have been smuggled in from the country since last October.
"I think the evidence is strong that the Iranian government is making these IEDs, and the Iranian government is sending them across the border and they are killing U.S. troops once they get there," says Richard Clarke, former White House counterterrorism chief and an ABC News consultant. "I think it's very hard to escape the conclusion that, in all probability, the Iranian government is knowingly killing U.S. troops."
'Very Lethal'
U.S. intelligence officials say Iran is using the bombs as a way to drive up U.S. casualties in Iraq but without provoking a direct confrontation.
John Negroponte, director of national intelligence, testified before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence on Februrary 2, saying, "Tehran's intention to inflict pain on the United States and Iraq has been constrained by its caution to avoid giving Washington an excuse to attack it."
The U.S. Army has embarked on a crash effort to find ways to stop the bombs, according to an unclassified report issued last month. The devices are easily hidden and detonated by motion detectors -- like those used in garden security lights -- that cannot be jammed.
When exploded, the copper disc becomes a molten liquid bullet that can penetrate the thickest armor the United States has.
"They penetrate the armor of an M1 Abrams tank," Clarke says. "They're shape charges. They go through anything, and they are very lethal."
There is currently no real defense against the weapons, he says.
"The Pentagon has a major crash study underway to figure out how to stop them," Clarke says, "but they haven't figured it out yet."
www.iranfocus.com
at March 7, 2006 6:53 PM
There is no punishment under Islamic law for lying to infidels
Like they say, if their lips are moving they are lying.
I have thought from the beginning that it was a brilliant strategy to have an American Army in the middle of the middle east. I didn't care about the WMDs as much as having a standing army there.
But I do wish we'd pull our boys/girls back and let the Islamofascists have at each other before we go any further.
I really wish we'd put our soldiers above being politically correct and worrying so much about 'collateral damage' over there. We have actually lost soldiers walking on eggs not to offend anyone there. I don't understand how we got to that point.
Posted by: beth at March 7, 2006 7:24 PM
Jihad by any means necessary
Get nuclear weapons by any means necessary
Bring back the hidden Imam and bring about the Koranic apocalypse by any means necessary
Lying to the infidel is extremely insignificant when pursuing the above goals.
Posted by: dennisw at March 7, 2006 7:38 PM
Do we bomb the Iranian nukes, or wait for them to bomb us?
Posted by: kevin at March 7, 2006 7:45 PM
The Japanese did the same thing in Wash.D.C. just before Pearl Harbour! there were more deaths on 9-11, wake up world, bomb the shit out of Iran now!
your embassies have been attacked, Iranians are sending arms and men to kill American and Allied troops... if this is not an act of war, what will it take to wake up the Western Nations!!
at March 7, 2006 7:47 PM
I'm betting that Israel is working on the problem as we speak and the Iranian moron will cease to exist shortly. The Shiites are ready to hit the fan.
Posted by: Siciliano at March 7, 2006 7:48 PM
Iran should be hit hard and fast, giving an examble to all the islamic regimes
Send them a message that the states isnt going to be fucked with.
The u.s will probably wait until things are a little better in Iraq, before making that move
Posted by: chu - doc at March 7, 2006 8:20 PM
"You wouldn't fool me, would you?"
Jack Buchanan to Elsie Randolph
"I would if I could."
Elsie Randolph to Jack Buchanan
at March 7, 2006 8:48 PM
I am SHOCKED!
They weren't negotiating in good faith?!
Actually I am shocked. I am shocked that this is considered news.
What’s next?
"Breaking News, Scientists confirm that the Earth continues to spin on its axis. Stay tuned for the electrifying transcript at 10:00"
at March 7, 2006 9:59 PM
Ahmadinejad is no Saddam.
The Russians have had enough.
I guess the Chinese could step in to broker some wasted time, but I think the Iranians have burned too many people publicly.
If I were in the Iranian government I'd be thinking seriously about loyalties right now.
Posted by: Beagle at March 7, 2006 10:07 PM
"Iran should be hit hard and fast, giving an examble to all the islamic regimesSend them a message that the states isnt going to be fucked with."
the sad truth is the US is going to wait and let Iran do something that warrants a massive strike
Just like Roosevelt did with the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor.
it is a fairly wise policy to avoid the throngs of angry mohammeds with belt bombs that will spring up if we strike first,not to mention that Bush seems to want this issue passed on to his sucessor who ,whomever it be,has the balls to deal with Iran thoroughly.
Iran is just one head of a hydra that is jihadism and to kill it you have to cauterize each wound so it wont grow a new head
Posted by: SAtarzan at March 7, 2006 10:08 PM
whomever it be,has the ballsWe're all going to die, aren't we? And I don't mean of old age. Posted by: Beagle
at March 7, 2006 10:55 PM
We're all going to die, aren't we? And I don't mean of old age. Posted by: Beagle
if Hillary Clinton gets elected,yes.
Posted by: SAtarzan at March 7, 2006 11:03 PM
The contents of the speech were published in a regime journal that circulates among the ruling elite.
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In a separate development, the opposition National Council of Resistance of Iran has obtained a copy of a confidential parliamentary report making it clear that Iranian MPs were also kept in the dark on the nuclear program, which was funded secretly, outside the normal budgetary process.
Two very damning little leaks.
It makes one wonder: Is this the success of foreign espionage, or could it be that someone within the nuclear program, or the "ruling elite," is having second thoughts? Perhaps a tinge of conscience about the nutjobs who want the bomb?
Posted by: Shinoliite at March 7, 2006 11:48 PM
Now if the Iranians would just take those world bank loans, all this could be avoided and the politicians in Washington would find a way for Iranians to manage the nuclear weapons right in the States.
OTT? In that case you have under estimated American politicians; Iran; or both!
Posted by: witness at March 7, 2006 11:52 PM
We're all going to die, aren't we? And I don't mean of old age.
Posted by: Beagle at March 7, 2006 10:55 PM
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I for one intend on living.
Someone has to carry on the Texas tradition, cows, horses, cowgirls, eating, sex, sleeping, shooting the enemy, but we do not eat horses or the enemy.
The Texican.
Posted by: Texican at March 7, 2006 11:59 PM
Lest thou thinks I jest ...
"World Bank approves $42 million grant to Hamas-led Palestinian Authority
March 7, 2006, 5:48 AM (GMT+02:00)
DEBKAfile sources report: The World Bank does not authorize a grant of this size without receiving a green light from Washington."
Posted by: witness at March 8, 2006 12:02 AM
Oh yes, just one more small detail
Dubai company shills for Iran nuke project Essential ingredient for bombs shipped from China to Tehran by UAE firm
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49156
"Iran Focus cites sources inside the Iranian government as saying Gulf Resources Development Corporation, the Iranian-owed Dubai company, has smuggled sizeable quantities of a type of graphite known as ceramic matrix composite, or CMC, from China to Iran"
So who is fooling who again? In any case the American people are going to end up on the dirty end of the stick as usual -- while their "representatives" line their own pockets.
Posted by: witness at March 8, 2006 12:16 AM
DEBKAfile sources report: The World Bank does not authorize a grant of this size without receiving a green light from Washington."
Posted by: witness
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Talk about giving the enemy money to be feed and armed.
The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost.
at March 8, 2006 12:17 AM
Oh dear ... let's not overlook this gem!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49136
"Senior officials of the Iranian government met with United Arab Emirates Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammad ben Rashid al-Maktoum today in Dubai with both sides pledging to strengthen relations in all areas."
If this phrase in all areas" doesn't sent up alarms then I don't know what will. After all, we are turning over the management of American ports to UAE owned companies.
Has anyone ever heard of subversion?
Posted by: witness at March 8, 2006 12:27 AM
Isfahan needs to go bye bye. Several 5k lb bunker busters should do just fine. I also think that shutting off the oil spigot from Iran before they even think they can leverage anyone with that, would be phase two.
Where is Pat Robertson when we really need someone to say a leader of another nation should be "taken out"? =)
at March 8, 2006 12:36 AM
I have thought from the beginning that it was a brilliant strategy to have an American Army in the middle of the middle east.
Bush's next brilliant strategy involves putting the American Army on a rusting, leaky, rudderless freighter in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean during hurricane season with no food or water on board.
Posted by: special_guest at March 8, 2006 1:55 AM
did the Euro diplomats come into the negotiations with Iran with illusions about Iran, or did they want to be fooled and have their wish granted? Or are the Euros just as cynical as the Iranians?
Posted by: Eliyahu at March 8, 2006 2:53 AM
The Islamcomicbook-site is back up, without the comic-book! Check it out:
This is a real gem from the site:
A special note: some misguided folks didn't like the somewhat raunchy words to "Winds of Jihad". Our webmaster's take on the problem is that they words were written by people of the world who don't like Islam, and they expressed their feelings in words more appropriate to a barroom than to a church service. If you don't like the words, don't read the lyrics or listen to the song. We've had nearly as many complaints from Christians about the Islam Comic Book website than I have had from Muslims. They say that the site is not "loving". And radical, Islamic Jihadists are? That is so bizarre.
Well, to mitigate the problem, we have posted an "Explicit Lyrics" warning on lyrics pages that may contain language that offends the sensitive ears of certain people. It looks like this:
Caution: contains explicit lyrics.
Watch out folks, soon coming to a church near you!
http://islamcomicbook.com/lyrics.htm
Sorry, try this link:
at March 8, 2006 4:48 AM
FLASH FROM DENMARK :
A poster advertising a new book, titled "What is Islam", has
been banned from Copenhagens busiest railway station in order to
"not stir up additional unrest".
The irony of this absurdity is that the author of named book, Mr.
Joergen Baek Simonsen, is a well-known uber-dhimmi, frequently
appearing on national TV trying to convince the ignorant masses that
Islam is really a religion of peace, love and tolerance....
The publisher of Mr. Simonsen's book is a bit surprised:
"this book is certainly well-balanced and not offensive towards
Islam". Undoubtedly.
Now, instead of calming things down, the decision to ban the poster
is sure to restart the flame war between those in favor of
censorship and those not.
at March 8, 2006 5:31 AM
Who is it that is being referred to in sura 7:176, "his similitude is that of a dog, if you attack him he lolls out his tongue or if you leave him alone he still lolls out his tongue that is the similitude of whose who reject our signs"? Our politicians have been "lapping" up their propaganda for decades whilst a sad fact is we here at JW are just a spit in the ocean, I bet Israel is a step ahead of these rougues though.
Posted by: stranger at March 8, 2006 7:20 AM
I guess you have all heard the latest?
That Iranian dog has just threatend America with "harm" if the U.N. carries on it's Nuke investigations!
How is this guy getting away with saying all these things?
We need to get into Iran NOW and try to get the more moderate oppossesion (many of whom leaked much of what Iran was up to to the U.N) to have an internal revolution and If that does not happen we send in the troops with U.N backing ( at least there seems to be an agreement in the U.N about Iran that there was not about Iraq - probably because Iran actually is a threat!)and destroy this whole regime!
at March 8, 2006 7:26 AM
Oh, sure, the Europeans were "duped" by the Iranians. I feel so much better now, knowing publicised world-events are so simple to understand. Yep, those Europeans are like little-lambs, innocent children, and the big-bad wolf took advantage of them.
But us Americans get our ego stroked because we knew all along.
Thesis+ Anti-thesis= Synthesis.
Hegelian Dialectical Process.
http://nord.twu.net/acl/dialectic.html
(I did'nt read the whole page, but it looks interesting and useful).
There is a pyramid. Our "governments" reside in the middle of that pyramid. The top directs them in many different ways, but towards an ultimate goal.
at March 8, 2006 7:48 AM
And the CHESSGAME begins.......
Posted by: rumoret at March 8, 2006 11:00 AM
Amir Taheri made a reasonable argument that while the US didn't buy into the Iranians' lies about nuclear ambitions, the Bush admin has, unfortunately, been following the Iranians' "script":
http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/19362
Posted by: waterdragon52 at March 8, 2006 12:36 PM
Soooo the so called peacefull religion now can't be trusted, nice work you muslims driving a faith off a cliff. (This shame will take years to be removed)the fact is allah is a terrorist and a can't be trusted.
Posted by: Denver at March 8, 2006 12:59 PM
As much as I hate to say it -- I think the Iranian approach to Europe was a good choice on their part. Europe has shown itself to be weak and determined to appease.
Here's a very interesting link to Robert Kagan's article on European Weakness and American Power...
www.policyreview.org/JUN02/kagan.html
Since Europe has chosen this vapid approach to world affairs, they will be complicit yet once again in the World War which their weakness will trigger.
Thanks Europe! -- Great "allies!"
Posted by: jsla at March 8, 2006 11:32 PM
I think the influx here of illegal aliens is more important from an America standpoint then Iran with nukes. At some point the Middle East is going to blow up and we had better be looking for a way to replace the oil imports we will lose. Nothing anyone does at this point is going to do more the slow down the inevitable conclusion. The day after is what should be concerning us.
Posted by: chuck at March 10, 2006 2:34 PM
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