I think the man is suicidal.
I hope the American people are ready for this one!
Nothing vague in those comments, is the MSM reporting this?

Posted by: disciple at March 8, 2006 8:48 AM

To me that is a declaration of war, we should accept it as such...

Posted by: Daffersd at March 8, 2006 9:16 AM

Bring it, Cupcake.

Posted by: finnschick at March 8, 2006 9:28 AM

Launching some air strikes into Iran is not the optimal position for us to be in. On the other hand, having a radical Muslim theocracy in possession of nuclear weapons is worse...

And the wake up call is not going to be reported by the Neville Chamberlain clones in the US media.

Iran will not be deterred by anything short of force.

British prime minister Tony Blair said recently that people used to ask him what we should do about Iran...

now they just ask when...

Posted by: netcentric at March 8, 2006 9:31 AM

"But the United States is also susceptible to harm and pain. So if that is the path that the U.S. wishes to choose, let the ball roll."
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Just pick a date and get it started.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost.

Posted by: Texican at March 8, 2006 9:43 AM

What exactly can we do? From the sketchy info that the public is given it seems there are hidden nuclear production sites...can we discover the locations of these? Iran is a *big* landmass....they could be antwhere...
If we dont discover them can we destroy enough infrastructure to make the operation of their weapons program impossible? That is, can we bomb Iran to hell without causing so much world-wide anti-USAism that we would end up in even deeper trouble? Come to think of it, Islam couldnt hate us more and the Europeans are not far behind...
This is starting to get scary....

Posted by: sonnyboy at March 8, 2006 10:01 AM

If the CIA would read "Greenmantle" maybe the Madhi (or a whole bunch of Mahdis, like ecumenical Elvis-es) could start showing up in Iran, and the nearby countries with Shi'ite sympathies, delivering messages that all contradict Mahmoud and the mad mullahs.

There's precious little mind there to screw with, among the mind-gelded ayatollahs, but it should definitely be screwed with.

Time for Miracles, Signs and Portents.

Anything to prevent a nuke getting into their crazy mitts.

Posted by: profitsbeard at March 8, 2006 10:36 AM

Iran had a chance to "shut it mouth and know it's role," but choose not to. Now Iran has put it foot in it. Just name the time and place, baby. The United States will give you "Harm and Pain" you won't believe!

Posted by: Ironman Hondo at March 8, 2006 11:19 AM

These idiots need to look at a map before they start flapping their yap. Iran is completely surrounded by countries that the US has military forces in. If the US were to act against Iran it would be in a matter of hours. Not months. Not weeks. Not days. HOURS. We have seen in both Gulf Wars what the US can do against the latest and best Soviet weapons. So in the immortal words of Todd Beamer,
"LET's ROLL!".

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at March 8, 2006 11:19 AM

"Let the ball roll"?

Something must be lost in translation.

Posted by: Mr Ape Pig at March 8, 2006 11:25 AM

From the AP article that is the topic of this thread:

"Our nation has made its decision to fully use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes and all have to give in to this decision made by the Iranian nation," Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said in Iran. "We have made our choice."

Translation: Submit or Die.

Posted by: Lisa at March 8, 2006 12:20 PM

This idiot really is trying to bring about
Armegeddon.

One stealth bomber with one laser guided bomb
can "toast" this idiot!!!

He can't remain invisible in his position and
with our satelittes, it wouldn't be hard to
find him.

Should it be done?

Posted by: learjet0450 at March 8, 2006 12:25 PM

Ahmadinejad has made his abominable intentions known for months!

It's very unsettling, because this president is a Shi'ite, and he thinks it's his DUTY to start a war so he can usher in the return of their world leader, Mahdi.

"Our revolutions main mission is to pave the way for the reappearance of the 12th Imam, the Mahdi", Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said.

Also....it is prophesied that upon his return, Islam will rein supreme in the world.

So I'm not the least bit surprised by his alarming threats, because he's trying to pick a fight. I support any military action that needs to take place to stop this evil.

Posted by: champ at March 8, 2006 12:41 PM

Ahmadinejad is a very very dangerous man and has again raised the stakes.what saddens me is that if i talk to people about the jihad,most people look at me as if i am a crank,some even say that they dont care. It is then that i change the subject and talk about things people want to hear.Why is thier so much complacency and when will they wake up? Do they need more 9.11s to realise the truth?
maybe i am a crank!! but at least i dont have my head in the sand. As the texican says.....freedom at any cost.

Posted by: anglosaxoncrusader at March 8, 2006 12:47 PM

Iran promises very expensive oil for any action taken against it. So, how about raining on his parade by knocking out the majority of Iran's revenue source: oil. Take out the refinerys, take out the equipment in the oil-fields, destroy infrastructure used to facilitate oil-production.

Thats right, if we're going to have high oil prices then lets make sure Iran doesnt have a chance to profit from that.

Lets start hot-war brinkmansship. Phase 1: paralyzing Irans millitary, and nuclear facilities. Secure Straits of Hormuz with landing force if necessary.

No submission? Lets goto Phase 2: Take out oil production facilities, and strategic communications infrastructure. Offer peace terms.

No submission? Phase 3: take out infrastructure that is used to support civil govt (govt buildings, power plants) and begin to take out heavy industry. Targeted assinations of civil authorities. Demand full surrender without terms.

Phase 4: Destroy broader infrastructure: bridges, highways, commercial ports, progressively smaller scale power generating systems. Targeted assinations of clerical leadership.

Destroying infrastructure, in a phased approach sends the right message "We're serious, we are going to bring you to your knees, and we can do this without mass-slaughter of the ppl".

Phase 4:

Posted by: MikeMontana at March 8, 2006 12:57 PM

I know what you mean, anglosaxoncrusader, I go through the same thing with my friends. They give me the rolly eyes and say here she goes...

My family is in the midwest and since they are in rural areas and don't get this info, they tend to listen. My friends here are SO pc it's pathetic.

I'm not a crank and I'm sure you're not either.

I'm just opinionated.

Posted by: freewoman at March 8, 2006 1:04 PM

thanks freewoman,im in the uk and find it hard when it seems im the only one who cares. I know alot of people here do realise the truth but so many more are wrapped up in thier daily lives happily going about enjoying democracy,unwilling to listen to anyone that might burst thier bubble.

Posted by: anglosaxoncrusader at March 8, 2006 1:11 PM

I share your frustrations concerning family and friends, because no one wants to believe that a 'religious nut' is heading a terrorist country like Iran.

Most American's want to live a cozy life, in our cozy culture; and in order to do that, we have to remain in denial before we'll accept what's really going on inside the mind of this mad-man.

I have two grown daughter's, ages 23 and 25, and last week I was stunned to learn that neither of them had heard about Ahmadinejad's outrageous comments concerning Israel and American - not the mention The Holocaust.

Is it our media's fault? Ya think!

But if you have a computer, and a desire to do a little research, then your eyes will be opened to the truth.

Posted by: champ at March 8, 2006 1:25 PM

I'm not trying to show my age, but I remember in grade school, to save ourselves from an atomic bomb, they would teach us to get under our desk. (like that would do any good)

We have lived pretty cozy, never worrying about a war on our shores. Never worrying about your neighbor wanting to blow you to kingdom come. The only worry you had on free speech was the reaction you got from your parents or teachers. And yes, I've been on the receiving end of the paddle.

And I grew up believing our president and leaders would protect us. But times have changed. The world has lost common sense and has gone bonkers.

Posted by: freewoman at March 8, 2006 1:38 PM

... my friends ... give me the rolly eyes and say here she goes...

Yeah, the media - the MSM - they've lulled everyone to sleep. It's ignorance and wishful thinking. And even those who do begin to suspect don't want to think about it because - well, here's Hugh on another thread:

It would also be good to let John Siegenthaler and others know that their pious hopes, their assumption that Islam must be, in the end, a Good Thing because, well, because otherwise the situation would be just too disturbing, and since the situation cannot be allowed to turn out to be too disturbing, then Islam must, you see, be in its essence a Good Thing. Q.E.D.

Here is a Hindu commenting on the bombing of Hanuman's temple at Benares

I was born and brought up in Varanasi. My parents still live there and they go to Sankat Mochan daily. My Mother was there two hours before the attack. And my best friend was actually in the temple when the blast took place. Fortunately she is safe. But the very thought that I could have lost her sends shivers down the spine. Still I don't blame people from any particular religion for what happened. And I appeal to all the people in India specially Varanasi to maintain calm. Terrorists don't belong to any religion.

Suruchi Pandey, Bristol, UK

See here.

Terrorists don't belong to any religion.

You think?

So many people cannot - will not - face the fact that this religion, the religion they will not name, Islam, is not "a good thing".

The Islamists must be laughing into their non-alcoholic drinks.

Posted by: Yojimbo at March 8, 2006 1:51 PM

Apathy:

I was having dinner with two well educated younger gentlemen, one in his mid-twenties, an architect that lost all of his personal possessions in the New Orleans flood and the other in his early thirties from Chicago - banker type.

During dinner tried to interest them in discussions about Islam and the problems about the border. They ignored the points and prattled on about fantasy football leagues that they were in and how to make trades.

This is what we have to educate in America to the threat of Islam.

It can be done.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost.

Posted by: Texican at March 8, 2006 2:04 PM

Tangentially Related:
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How do you suspect Iran will spin this news tidbit (hint: blame the jews...blame the west...)

Iranian oil pipeline on fire in troubled Arab region; sabotage suspected

March 8, 2006, 2:10 PM (GMT+02:00) The fire broke out Tuesday night near Ahvaz, where violent clashes and bombing attacks staged by ethnic Arabs have taken place over the past year in Iran’s main oil region. The pipelines carry crude oil to the refinery city of Abadan in the southwest, but there was no disruption to supplies, the Iranians said.

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=2055

Posted by: MikeMontana at March 8, 2006 2:15 PM

MikeMontana,

That news is more than tangentially related, it is part of the nuclear core of this thread. Iran has already blamed (there is a previous JW thread) this sabotage on British agents who have infiltrated into Iran. Todays news is all part of the same Islamic propoganda that any military attack initiated by Iran on another sovereign state, most likely Israel, is just another ho-hum koranically justified defensive war to protect allah (isn't he omnipotent enough to protect himself?) and his messenger.

Posted by: Lisa at March 8, 2006 2:25 PM

....we have to educate in America to the threat of Islam.

I get the feeling sometimes that this is about 1935, Texican. It is building, as it did then. Markers are being put down by our would-be masters; outrages are being perpetrated; take a little and see whether it is resisted ...

Interesting times.

Posted by: Yojimbo at March 8, 2006 2:49 PM

Let us not lose sight of the intellectual backdrop from which the Iranians bark.

No, I'm not talking about the subintellectual animalism called the Islamic Scriptures, I'm talking about the received wisdom that America is acting as an empire, and therefore from malevolence, because it can.

The malevolence here is coming from the man on the bottom, the Moslem Man.

* America went to war in 1914 to save Europe from anarchy

* America went to war in 1940 to save the world from fascism

* American went war in 1950 and 1964 to fight communism

* America went to war in 2001 to fight Islam

Now, I axe you, what could be wrong with any of these things? True, the Moslems are a-quiver with ultra-incensed hyper-anger about America's effort to install freedom and justice in Mesopotamia. But so what?

Unless you're a university professor, MSM commentator, or government official, who cares that the Moslems are quaking with anger? Did we care about the fits of pique thrown by the fascists and commies when they go theirs?

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at March 8, 2006 2:50 PM

America went to war in 1914 to save Europe from anarchy

1917, actually - timeline. But, yes, that war couldn't have been finished without American troops. From nothing, too - the first arrivals wore British clothing and used French weapons.

Posted by: Yojimbo at March 8, 2006 3:23 PM

America went to war in 1914 to save Europe from anarchy

1917, actually - timeline. But, yes, that war couldn't have been finished without American troops. From nothing, too - the first arrivals wore British clothing and used French weapons.

Posted by: Yojimbo at March 8, 2006 3:23 PM

Anglosaxoncrusader and all the others above:

It's difficult isn't it trying to overcome the apathy and fear and irritation of people when ou talk to them about islam...............suppose I'll just keep plugging along and hopefully some will get the message but it is distressing at times.
I try not to irritate and just point them to this site and faithfreedom.

Posted by: marilyn at March 8, 2006 4:55 PM

Just finished watching CSPAN and the close of today's session in the U.S. House of Representatives. During the closing prayer all but one representative was standing chanting "Death to Ahmadinejad! Death to Iran!" The lone representative, John Conyer, who did not join in this solemn closing prayer session was seen slinking out the back door.

/sarc

Posted by: Lisa at March 8, 2006 5:03 PM

i have two sons in the marines- one in a reconnesance battalion and the other is an interpreter for arabic and farsi- both of them are in intense training in anticipation of a face off with iran. both of them have asked me to make sure that their brothers and sisters are aware of the treacherous times we are all living in, and to know that liberty is worth the price that is paid for it, no matter how high. my mouth gets dry when i think of the neville chamberlains filling the air with nonsense noise while my elementary aged children are watching strangers and learning about the potential for terrorism in their neighborhood.
why does noone realize this is a war for our existence?????

Posted by: traaajhgsne at March 8, 2006 5:04 PM

I agree with all, can't understand why people want to be so PC about radical Muslims. I am not "white" myself, but am from asian decent. Almost all asians I know hate this terrorist crap. Terrorists - radical Muslims - not only hate the West, but like someone mentioned, all civilization except Mustlims. I am in agreement that moderate Muslims condone violence. If not, why aren't they pointing out the radicals. When radicals speak, call your newspapers, police, politicians, and point them out. If they spoke out, I am sure most of the insurgents in Iraq can be eliminated with help from "moderate" Muslims. Sometimes I questions whether they exist.

I am as conservative fiscally as they come, and I am upset at Bush, for not shrinking the size of govt. However, because of this terror crap, I am starting to wane towards liberals in raising gasoline taxes. It seems like Americans don't want to listen. There is a war raging, and we need to be united against these terrorists. That means, we gotta stop our dependence on oil. Although I hate it, if done properly, I could support $3 dollar tax on top of current taxes. Wow, that would definitely hurt Middle East, Russia and us. But, it'll probably help Chinese buy cheaper oil. Gawd, this is a big mess!

Posted by: tiredofterror at March 8, 2006 5:07 PM

Oh, did I mention I work next to a tree hugger who's driving a 280-hp Dodge truck with a vented hood. All he ever talks about is ethanol. D*mn hypocrite. That $3 tax on top of current prices would make that ethanol look mighty tempting.

Posted by: tiredofterror at March 8, 2006 5:10 PM

Anyone want to take bets that Israel doesn’t do something first, I am also predicting this will be within the next few weeks to months.

Iraq and Afghanistan were just preliminary rounds to get us in position for the main event. We will give tacit approval for Israel to launch strikes.

Iran in its usual shortsighted Muslim fury will try and retaliate.

That’s when we step in.

This is all so predictable, it’s boring. Just get on with it already!

Posted by: km at March 8, 2006 5:41 PM

I believe Israel is working on the psycopath Iranian as they are within striking distance of the whackjob. Israel hasn't and doesn't worry about public opinion. She does what's necessary and wiping out that idiot is paramount on their minds....don't discount them as they kicked ass back in 1948 when they were surrounded by Syria, Jordan and the rest of the Islamic jihadists and the technology now has intensified greatly in the last 58 years. Look what they did to the Iraqui reactors back 20 years....they won't have a problem now. Supposedly their missile defense systems are way superior to anything in the States...Time will certainly tell. In the meantime that Super Shortie looks great to me!
Lock and Load. I see a Middle Eastern crazyman in an SUV headed towards me he's getting the full clip in his head.

Posted by: Siciliano at March 8, 2006 5:53 PM

KM...You beat me to the punch!

Posted by: Siciliano at March 8, 2006 5:54 PM

The action on Iran is approaching, and this time it wont be a PC intervention - there is that embassy hostage payback to consider.

Iran should take heed - I do not think the US has forgotten or forgiven the act of seizing embassy personnel as hostages.

Posted by: DP111 at March 8, 2006 5:59 PM

Siciliano,

Sorry dude, I hear you though about those crazy mohammedans and SUV's.

Posted by: km at March 8, 2006 6:16 PM

I wouldnt worry about some U.S troops being tied up in Iraq. Thiers a shortage, but you've you have the europeans on board now. Especially France, they seem particurly agressive about this now, after the recent Paris riots. Say what you want about France, but they have a decent military. The french foreign legion has the worlds toughest troops.
They where the country that suggested Iran go before the U.N security council. They've woke up.
The Germans too, although they're not really a force because there not allowed to have a big military after ww2, though thats being addressed as well. And it looks like the Canadians are on board too.

If thier is an assualt, NATO will be at the heart of it because the States want a unilateral support, and they've got it. A draft wont be needed.

let the games begin.

Posted by: chu - doc at March 8, 2006 6:19 PM

when l heard about letting the ball roll, well l envisoned bowling,, with the pins being pictured with immans and cartoons of muhammud! the ball could have stars and stripes on them, and when tossed down the alley, will knock the pins down! great game! make iraninas even nutier along with hammas, pakis etc!

Posted by: Lulu at March 8, 2006 6:39 PM

Wow my biggest fear is that we would never fight these guys. We would just let them take over. But this clown might declare war on the US. I wonder if he realizes that he would be just doing us a favour. It would be a walk over for the US.

In Canada I still here how the US lost the Iraq war and how I was wrong that the US would beat Iraq in days. But correct me if I am wrong but didnt the US beat the Iraqi army in 3 weeks. Right now it isnt a war between iraq and the US but a war of who will control Iraq, I really think the US should just leave.

If Iran were to attack the US I would give it a couple of months tops.

Posted by: pissedoffcanadian at March 8, 2006 7:24 PM

Very unlikely that Israel will strike Iran first.
Iran is too far away.
That would inflame the Arabs 100 times more so than if we go in first.

But we don't have to go in, cut the "head" off the snake. Take out the Mad Mullahs and support
the Iranian dissidents, many are being publically hung each week.

To clarify, Iranians are NOT Arabs, they are Persians, a distinctly different ethnic group and culture. They have had the misfortune of the "religion of peace" ruling their country.

Posted by: learjet0450 at March 8, 2006 7:24 PM

"Very unlikely that Israel will strike Iran first.
Iran is too far away."

Psst! In-flight refueling over Iraq, courtesy USAF. Keep it under yer hat.

Posted by: Eisenhund at March 8, 2006 7:43 PM

"Very unlikely that Israel will strike Iran first.
Iran is too far away.
That would inflame the Arabs 100 times more so than if we go in first."

I agree. The IDF was designed for defense, and they are very good at it. Although they are formiddable on offense, I think Iran is too far for the Israelis to keep up the amount af airstrikes necessary to destroy all, or most of the sites. It will take weeks or more to do the job and that is why I think we will do it. The only way I see Israel hitting them, is if the madman over there lobs some missiles at Tel Aviv before we can get at them. Then it's really on!

Posted by: McSeamus at March 8, 2006 8:59 PM

Some films on Iran:

http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/iran/

http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/iran403/

Posted by: SFOD at March 8, 2006 9:24 PM

"Terrorists don't belong to any religion." When the top clerics start actually preaching this (not using taqiyya), we might start getting somewhere. Vain hope!

This article about Iran's youth is a bit old, but the picture of the normal-looking students and this sentence gave me hope: "Fully 60 percent of Iranians are under the age of 30, and they have had enough of strict Islamic rule. Everywhere there are signs that the religious authorities are losing control. "

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/01/25/eveningnews/main669223.shtml

Iran's people need another revolution - now! These young people don't want or deserve war, but their crazy government is bringing it on them.

Posted by: Lili at March 8, 2006 9:26 PM

First off I'd like to thank traaajhgsne for having two sons in the Marines who are getting ready to fight for our freedom.
Second thing is I think that we ought to arm all of our ICBM with nuke warheads and lock them on to a specific target in Iran, and let them know that we have done so.

Posted by: Real American at March 8, 2006 9:47 PM

At least we know that publishing pictures of their prophet makes mohammedams go apeshit. Nice to know in the event of a real war. Just imagine, a muslim family settling down to an evening of family viewing on Al jazirah and instead of watching an infidel having his head cut off, our cyber warriors have placed cartoons of Mo or secnes from a pig farm !

Posted by: PAS at March 8, 2006 10:41 PM

Israel doesn’t have to maintain a prolonged campaign, it just needs to start it we will do the rest.

Posted by: km at March 8, 2006 10:47 PM

why does noone realize this is a war for our existence?????
Posted by: traaajhgsne at March 8, 2006 05:04 PM
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Because they are busy working, watching tv, playing and having funn to be bothered.

This mindset can be broken, but it will take a concentrated writing campagin.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost.

Posted by: Texican at March 9, 2006 12:05 AM

War wih Islam?????

Islamic soldiers are in America. Have you considered what it will take to fight Islam in America when the war starts with Islam????

The feds will take care of the war over sead, but American citizens will have to fight the war in America.

The war against Islam in America will be up-close, personal and violent. Industry and transportation will shutdowm for an unknown period of time.

To be able to take the war to Islam, you have to be prepared, be armed and be ready.

Prepare:
Have on hand food, water, clothing, medical supplies, radios, batteries, CB's or two ways, camping goods, arms and ammo, fuel, etc.
If you live in a metropolitan area, have an escape plan and a place to go if you can, if not know how to prepare your home to be defendable. Have a plan for escape if you are at work and your family is in the suburbs. Plan for the most likely occurrences when the war starts. Drive your route at all times of day and night to understand how to get out if you need to.
Learn how to fight and protect your family and country.
Learn where the mosques are in your area.
Learn where Muslim businesses are in your area.
Learn where the Muslims live in your area.
Preparing for war is expensive, but what is the life of your family and survival of your Country worth to you??? What are you willing to sacrifice to defeat Islam???

What will Islam give you if Islam defeats America???? Death…..

Be armed:
If you do not have arms, buy your family arms and ammo and learn how to use them. The first arms to purchase are shotguns, then handguns then rifles.

Be ready:
The war with Islam can start at any time.

Are you prepared, armed and ready for the coming war with Islam????? It will be too late once the war starts.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost.

Posted by: Texican at March 9, 2006 12:18 AM

MUCH scarier than Iran is the sum of all their dangerous friends and what deals have been made if or when we do strike.

Posted by: parainvesta at March 9, 2006 12:23 AM

Israel shouldn't do something that is the job of the US. It would divert UN attention at Iran instead towards Israel. This is something the US should take care of with ICBM's, if possible. Don't risk any infidel lives - civilian or military. Just send in the bombs.

If it is too difficult to pinpoint the nuclear sites in Bushehr, Natanz, Yazd and Isfahan, just send one down the political districts in Teheran, maybe blow up Ayatollah Ruhoolah Khomenei's tomb. Mahmoud wants to meet the Mahdi. Help him do it.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 9, 2006 2:23 AM

On a lighter note, "harm & pain"? This is probably Iran's response to the "scorn" that was threatened several months ago.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 9, 2006 5:43 AM

America and it's apeasing left will seal our own fate at the feet of islam as dhimmi's doing chores for food and shelter. Texican is so very correct. Only American "rednecks" will rescue us from our slow walk to slaughter. Hopefully the military will refuse to attack Americans that are trying to protect themselves. (If any are old enough to remember, in the mid 70's in Louisville KY the guard refused to attack protesters)

We will get to watch as our children are used for sex, males over 9 years old are beheadded (after being raped), women are forced into brothels, and the industry that made the west so successful is gutted and destroyed.

islam is a political theory at odds with democracy. It should just be outlawed in the west and then we live with the consequences of that decision whatever they may be. We are industrious and I believe that we can survive better without their oil than they can without our money.

As to Iran specifically we had a saying in the 80's in response to Russian adventures. GLCM, pronounced glick-em, (ground launched cruise missle) til they glow. Iran should become the worlds largest reflecting telescope mirror.

Posted by: vulcan at March 9, 2006 12:15 PM

In the case of an Iranian attack on the west, the first nuclear missile should strike Mecca in Saudi Arabia, since this is the center of worldwide terror and satanism.
Mahometans in the whole world should know, if they attack the west, the complete distruction of their satanic center Mecca will follow first and immediately, because any attack against the west by mahometans is religious motivated.
Moreover places like Dubai,Kuwait and Abu Dhabi should be hit as well in retaliation, since the real and hidden sponsors of terrorism are usually this so called "moderate" Emiratis.

Posted by: InHocSignoVinces at March 9, 2006 3:03 PM

If I were an Iranian, I'd be seriously concerned right about now. Even an idiot knows that a person (or a nation) can be pushed only so far.

Posted by: Nobody Special at March 9, 2006 10:56 PM