The senator from NY, madame clinton, did she know that her bubbly hubbie took over 800,000. dollars for two speechs from the UAE? that he is pushing for them to get the leases on the ports? does not knkow about that? mmmm

Posted by: Lulu at March 8, 2006 5:55 PM

One of three nations to recognize the Taliban and apparently Clinton might have wacked Osama but for a UAE prince - like there's any shortage of 'royalty' over there. I wonder what the vote would have been among the other princes?

Posted by: Beagle at March 8, 2006 5:55 PM

Lulu...that was $300,000 a speech. But nevertheless he's sold out too. His lesbo wife endorsed a Chinese company to run Long Beach Port back in the Clinton's hayday. That article was in the last HUMAN EVENTS paper and shows the Dems are so frickin flipflopped on all issues.

Posted by: Siciliano at March 8, 2006 5:59 PM

The amendment should read:

IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, NO COMPANY, EITHER FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC, WHICH IS WHOLLY OR PARTIALLY OWNED OR CONTROLLED BY MUSLIMS MAY OWN, LEASE, OPERATE OR MANAGE REAL PROPERTY OR FACILITIES AT A UNITED STATES PORT.

Posted by: PRCS at March 8, 2006 6:01 PM

Love it....why I'm SO relieved, because now all of our problems are solved!

And to think that I was worried about terrorists having 'easy access' through our vulnerable ports. Phew - now I'll sleep like a baby tonight!

Posted by: champ at March 8, 2006 6:03 PM

Go to Islamicfinder.org and you can see what Muslim business in your area to boycott...You will also be enlightened as to how many hate preaching mosques are in your neighborhoods.
Or should I say sleepercells.

Posted by: Siciliano at March 8, 2006 6:03 PM

You gotta love it when our law makers do their job.

It is so unlearned when our legislators sit on their big fat duffs and scream at the President over this UAE port deal, when making laws is not part of his job description.

Do a large number of Americans really not understand how their own government works?

I assume this because so many blamed the President for this port deal, when there was no existing law in place that he could use to enforce a no-deal.

Posted by: Bar at March 8, 2006 6:12 PM

Great website Siciliano!!! THANKS

Came across this description of an islamic school near me under 'general information.'

Provides services to muslims. Transportation, Job training, Jobs, Assist with social service agencys, Housing, Food, Clothing, Host families, How to suceed in establishing the Caliphate in America, We can help you or find help for you in all matters

Can you believe it!?

Posted by: Todd at March 8, 2006 6:17 PM

Bar...
Bush didn't even know about his Administrations deal till a few weeks ago. One hand has no clue what the other is doing. Time for Cheney to invite all supporters of the UAE deal to go dove hunting!

Posted by: Siciliano at March 8, 2006 6:17 PM

Todd..If that isn't a giant wake up call for all I don't know what is. We can now capitalize on their time setting up the site to boycott the businesses that support terror networks!

Posted by: Siciliano at March 8, 2006 6:19 PM

"THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK, MR. SCHUMER, PROPOSES AMENDMENT NUMBER 2959 TO THE WYDEN AMENDMENT, NUMBER 2944. AT THE END OF THE AMENDMENT, ADD THE FOLLOWING: IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER PROVISION OF LAW AND ANY PRIOR ACTION OR DECISION BY OR ON BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT, NO COMPANY WHOLLY OWNED OR CONTROLLED BY ANY FOREIGN GOVERNMENT THAT RECOGNIZED THE TALIBAN AT A LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT OF AFGHANISTAN DURING THE TALIBAN'S RULE BETWEEN 1996 THROUGH 2001 MAY OWN, LEASE, OPERATE OR MANAGE REAL PROPERTY OR FACILITIES AT A UNITED STATES PORT. "

Gad! A wedge of Swiss Cheese with holes so big that you could fly a 747-400 through them -- all for public consumpation.

I hope that this is not all there is to it; you folks better look at this one through a microscope because I don't think this will do what you expect it will.

Gawd, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think so!

Posted by: witness at March 8, 2006 6:20 PM

Oh come on.

I support keeping the Dubai scumbags out of my ports but the language in this amendment is formulated too narrowly.

What if say some government which did not recognize the Taliban and which is working against US interests would want to bid for port ownership would tha tbe all right?

I don't think so.

Posted by: scribe10 at March 8, 2006 6:21 PM

I dont think the ports are a big deal. the militant Muslims in the U.S presently will be the next generation. Trust me, a foreign group wont make the next terrorist attack against the states, it will be home grown. Its the only way it'll happen again.

So why the big deal with the ports?

Posted by: chu - doc at March 8, 2006 6:22 PM

Quite OT

News has it that the Belmarsh detainees are to be provided with laptop computers. This is on top of all the privelages that they are now accustomed to.

This whole dhimmi thing by the UK government is beginning to like a Carry ON film - Carry On being a Dhimmi.

Posted by: DP111 at March 8, 2006 6:25 PM

Simple language. Clear message. Great.

Posted by: jsla at March 8, 2006 6:27 PM

"So why the big deal with the ports?"

Loss of control - even in business - is a big deal. There are always risks; some risks are worth taking - other risks are as fool-hardy as playing Russian Roulette with a revolver.

Assuming you only have one live round out of six you have 5:1 odds that things will work out fine; and 1:5 odds that they won't.

You can be right a gazillion times -- its that one and only one time that trashes all of your antecedent successes.

I'm thinking if the American people are so stupid that they can NOT see why the ports are an issue -- then maybe the islamics are correct in wanting to remove them from the human gene pool just to keep the species from becoming STUPID.

As for my interests -- I will NOT allow them to be compromised on anyone else's globalist/capitalist/socialist/economic/republican/democratic/libertarian/liberal/conservative alter to their own egos.

I've worked too damn hard for that and have too many people relying on me -- so I will take precautions in any case simply as a matter of due diligence and stewardship.

But I see some cavernous loopholes in this prose that I think should be sealed and welded shut -- you can bet that CAIRS legal reps see them too!

Posted by: witness at March 8, 2006 6:37 PM

Quite OT

News has it that the Belmarsh detainees are to be provided with laptop computers. This is on top of all the privelages that they are now accustomed to.

The better to coordinate jihadi website activities with, my dear.

The British government is off its rocker.

Posted by: Suzan at March 8, 2006 6:38 PM

Schumer is demonstrating how a liberal undergoes a change to reason: seeing horror in his own backyard (i.e. 9/11).

I have to applaud him in his mission to stop the insanity of our current President's outrageous foreign policy with concern to the UAE.

Posted by: Foehammer at March 8, 2006 6:41 PM

Charles Schumer proposed that? Wow.

I guess I'll cross that name off the list of people I never thought I'd want to kiss.

Posted by: Shinoliite at March 8, 2006 6:44 PM

Siciliano

Went to the link you posted, there is an islamic center near my house and I visited their website. I didn't really see anything suspect until I noticed when the site was last updated, 9-11-05. I don't think this is a coincidence! We have enemys all around us. I think I will give them a call, to ask if they would mind if an infidel would be allowed to sit in on one of their prayers. I don't think it will go over very well.

Posted by: McSeamus at March 8, 2006 6:52 PM

Mc Seamus...Amazing that the blowhards have been living amungst us and we have no idea. Time to be vigilant and keep a wary eye out for Towels driving SUV's looking for crowds of Infidels lingering about. Here in Washington State you get a Concealed weapons permit after a background check and can carry whereever you feel like. Just let Achmed come at me...he'll have many hollow points in his towel.

Posted by: Siciliano at March 8, 2006 6:57 PM

A start is a start.

At least congress is listening to the American citizen.

Next they need to grow some bowling balls and outlaw Islam.

America can survive without ME oil.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost.

Posted by: Texican at March 8, 2006 7:01 PM

witness,

wholly owned or controlled in legalese means that there can be interlocking directorships and management control such that a corporation can be controlled by a minority owner. For example, Ford Motor only owns 35% of Mazda Motors stock but Ford is the controlling interest by virtue that it controls Mazda management.

Posted by: Lisa at March 8, 2006 7:02 PM

I was begining to think that you couldn't pass a law that was based on common sense. Its a good start.

Posted by: pissedoffcanadian at March 8, 2006 7:19 PM

Like Texican said “it’s a start”. Here are a few other things we need to do, outlaw foreign ownership or control of all strategic facilities, technological and pharmaceutical companies and the surrounding land. Short term fix, require all foreign workers to supply and verify address and legal status (note the “verify”) list all known relatives (one goes bad, deport the remaining family members). Several laws would have to be changed to support the deportation of known family members. This wouldn’t stop them but might help persuade a loving family member to sell out the one who could get them all deported. Divide and conquer.

Limit financial and educational aid to non us citizens. No funds for college and an apartment? Too bad, go home and stop taking a seat from an American. Note, paying “guests’ are welcomed. No tax breaks incentives or cut rates for non-citizens. Most of our ancestors did it the hard way let them do the same. We could require the majority of employees to also be citizens (might help cut unemployment). Any foreign national or US citizen found guilty of terrorism or supporting it should have all assets ceased and sold with no restitution (this would cause a few mosques to go up for sale).

The list will grow given time but “it’s a start”

Posted by: Ronin at March 8, 2006 7:19 PM

they caught a fella in baltimore with 175lbs of cocaine and 21,000 in cash.
is it harder to smuggle in cocaine or s.a.m's.
the port contraversy is a crock as long as china operates some on the west coast.
and the fella in chapel hill has been given a pass. just another " confused" college boy.

Posted by: lilbean at March 8, 2006 7:32 PM

hey Sicilano, l think Clinton made a couple of speeches.. l cant believe anyone would pay him money to talk! plus l am sure he had some perks on the way there.. l just cant stand it when he comes up here to Canada, they treat him like a rock star! yuck! as far as the port deal, it was done without president's knowleged. The presidents only signs or does not sign laws.. the senate and house has to make the laws..so they have to get their butts off and work now! they should have that no company that funds terrorsit groups ie, Hammas, sucicide bomber families, does not do business with Israel, etc are not allowed to do business with the US. this would take care of about 90percent of muslim companies!

Posted by: Lulu at March 8, 2006 7:56 PM

"wholly owned or controlled in legalese means that there can be interlocking directorships and management control"

Lisa -- and depending upon exactly how that much is interpreted, do you forsee the potential for disingenuous actions based upon legislation thus worded?

While it is hopeful that a statement like this was made, my experiences keep nagging at me to look VERY closely at anyhing coming out of Washington that smacks of "in the interests of the American people" since the Amercian people's interest is of the lowest priority of these distinguished and honorable "public servants."

Posted by: witness at March 8, 2006 8:06 PM

Yes, it is a start. Give the guy credit, even if the language is not encompassing enough. Interesting to see how this evolves over the coming weeks.

Posted by: amana39 at March 8, 2006 8:28 PM

Some of the comments here are the writings of seriously disturbed people.

Lulu's concerns are concentrated on Hillary Clinton and her husband. Why not impeach him again? You know, ignore the ruin Bush has made of our policies; go after the real culprits: Clinton and Carter? Maybe Dubai is their fault? Everything else is, right?

And Sciliano can't find excuses for Bush fast enough. Do you think turning over control of our ports to a ME country wasn't run by him and Crash Cart? Is it that he's such a zero? Is he as stupid as he appears?

The reason I like this web site (Robert, Hugh, et al.) is that it doesn't care about politics, Dem or GOP. It's focused on the enemy. So they call out Bush and his Admin when they act like idiots, unlike, oh, say, LGF, which is basically an arm of the GOP, so Johnson is really in a bind here with the UAE/Port deal. If Hillary even smiles the wrong way, he's calling for her execution. But Bush can give away our ports, send that idiot Hughes to "talk" to the Moslems, take their side against Denmark, and not a peep.

Why not just give Schumer credit for doing what he did. He's a senator, but only a senator.

Posted by: Seymour Paine at March 8, 2006 8:38 PM

Is the FBI in OKC compromised by the enemy? So many obvious shenanigans going on there and yet the stuff is buried right away. Why haven't we heard about the OU terrorist attack? What happened to Joel's roommates. Why should we believe the head of a Muslim Student Organization when he says that Joel was not a Muslim?

WHAT IS GOING ON IN OKC and NATIONWIDE!!!!?

The Congress needs to Investigate the FBI in OKC. They still have most of America believing that Jose Padilla and Islam had nothing to do with the April 19th 1995 terrorist attack there and now we are to forget about the OU attack?

Posted by: Jim at March 8, 2006 8:46 PM

The only time in my life I will ever get to say this: "Thank you, Mr. Schumer!"

Today, Chuck Schumer indeed rocked.

Posted by: Jim The Kafir at March 8, 2006 9:18 PM

McVeigh was one of several actors that blew up the federal building. But, John Doe #3 looks an awful lot alike Jose Padilla, who has taken a Muslim name BTW. Jose Padilla and Tim McVeigh have interesting ties. Glenn Beck has a site dedicated to this. Google it.

Anyways, FBI story is different from the real story when it pertains to OKC. This is why CONGRESS should INVESTIGATE the FBI to see if Terrorists have already infiltrated it.

OKC is a known terrorist hide-out and Joel Hinrichs used same explosive as 7/7 terrorists in London. He also had Pakistani roommates and attended a local mosque, despite what head of MSA says. The media and FBI and University refuse to tell us the truth. We can't fight the war without knowing our enemy!!

Posted by: Jim at March 8, 2006 9:29 PM

patriot2:

http://www.glennbeck.com/news/06132002.shtml

Posted by: Jim at March 8, 2006 9:38 PM

BTW,

Islamics are targeting Hispanics for "dawah" and conversion. They use carrot of Jesus and how they adore him and etc. blah blah blah. If you don't believe me, watch the videos they post online. It's easy to see how they bait well meaning Christians. And the Catholic church, which many Hispanics/Latino belong too doesn't do a very good job discouraging as they consider Islam a "true" religion and encourage inter-faith dialogue.

Posted by: Jim at March 8, 2006 9:41 PM

Conflated above: Edward R. Murrow, Alfred P. Murrah.

Just leave Alfred E. Neumann out of it. ;)

Posted by: Shinoliite at March 8, 2006 10:01 PM

Joel Hinrichs didn't blow himself up. It was an accident. He meant to plant it to incur far more casualties. Luckily, security was very tight as to not let him in. He went to adjust the timer and boom. The bomb rocked the stadium and force knocked people to the ground. Joel had pakistani roommates and DID attend the same mosque. He also had designs to build a bomb very similar to that constructed by McVeigh, Nichols, and Doe #3 but was not allowed to purchase what he needed.

Posted by: Jim at March 8, 2006 10:10 PM

Dear Texasian and Ronin who are oversimple idiots. First this law might not even be constitution as it is pruminent than other state for something which was legal in the past. All Nations are free to recognite nation without congress presureing them.

Congress cannot make any law to Ban Islam as it is than international recognite religion. Your idear for laws are supid and inefficient. First right now 50% of the gaseline and heating oil is refine in the
middle east nations.Soon it will be 75%.

Congress cannot make any laws that say foreign cannot own any bussienes in America. There are America own bussienes and they asset in many Islamist companies it we donot respect international
laws they can be taken over by those nationa and handed over to citzen of they nation to run. It worked both ways.

Our refinearty in america are old and outdated and they pollute too much which isnot than very good idear. The one being built in the Middle East are new and modern along with the new ones China and India are builting.

Posted by: DefenderofIslam at March 8, 2006 10:17 PM

Siciliano, many thanks for the link to the finder site. It has identified a local business that I had some doubts about. I suspended purchases last July because of that doubt. Now, of course, they have definitely lost this Texan's business forevermore.

The site also nailed an islamic center near me. They offer classes in arabic and the institution is open to anyone "regardless of race, religion, or nationality." How nice.

Concealed weapons permits are available in Texas, also. But, don't underestimate your enemy. You can bet that muslims have permits, too. Probably under fake names. Remember, driver's licenses were available in most states without proof of citizenship until fairly recently. A Brady Bill background check would not reveal a criminal history on such an applicant, and even a three-time felon dawa dude would slip right through. Watch out.

Port security? Schumer's gotta be kidding. Nice grandstand, but there are plenty of holes in his "protection" plan.

I had a client that ran cargo through the Ports of Houston, Galveston, Beaumont, and Freeport, Texas. Imports and Exports. Some went to Saudi Arabia. Lots of containers, not any bulk cargo that I can remember. I was on the board of directors for several terms.

The trucking companies are licensed by the port authority to enter into the port's grounds to pick up containers. The companies are registered with customs and other agencies (Dept of Transportation; Agriculture; etc.). Some trucking companies are specially licensed and bonded to pick up liquor. Ours was.

There are a few big trucking companies that hire their own drivers as employees. Most trucking companies use "owner-operators" who own or lease a truck (the tractor rig without the trailer), and sign on as an independent contractor with the trucking company. The company does not have to contribute Social Security taxes on the independents, who, in turn, get to deduct certain business expenses that would not otherwise be deductible. The trucking company will not own any trucks, which are subject to abuse if in a "pool" and so the company avoids big capital expenditures as well as maintenance and yard costs. The company will maintain insurance, and charge it back to the owner-operator.

The container coming off the ship will be cleared by customs, which is a pretty automatic process. Very few containers are checked, just as is reported in the media. The process is handled by a customs broker who works for the consignee (recipient). Duties, if any, are paid by the broker and billed to the consignee. The broker notifies the consignee that the shipment has cleared, and the consignee calls their favorite trucking company to pick up the load.

The trucking company will assign the load to an employee or owner-operator. Usually, however, the owner-operator will call in to the dispatcher in the morning, and throughout the day, for assignments. "Pick up container 234598X and deliver to Macy's (or Kroger, or Chevron)."

The driver will pick up a chassis at the yard. The chassis is the trailer that the container will sit on for the ride. (In intermodal shipping, where rail is involved, the container and the chassis may be handled as a roll-on roll-off load and they travel together from shipper to consignee, or from port to consignee.) The driver gets in line with his truck and chassis at the port and eventually gets his load. He inspects the manifest, checks the numbers, and examines the container and chassis for dents and scratches for repair, noting them on his records. Any damage that he does not list is later repaired and presumed to be his fault and is charged to the company he works for. The chassis and container are probably owned by different international shipping companies and everything is rented by the day, week, month, etc. The paperwork used to be tremendous, but computerization has cut costs of tracking to a minimum. As he leaves the port area, he is checked to make sure he has the right container number, and his identity, company affiliation, etc, are recorded. He keeps in touch with his dispatcher by radio (old style, expensive) or cell-phone (new style, cheap), and lets the dispatcher know when he has dropped his load.

If the driver is lucky he will have a "back-haul." He will drop off the chassis and container at the consignee's location, and pick up a different, loaded container and chassis for delivery to the port or some other location. The shipper arranges for a freight forwarder to handle the export paperwork. The forwarder may select a trucker, or the shipper may specify one to be used.

Everything is tracked by number, name, etc. Refrigerated cargo has to have a recording device to measure temperature at all times to avoid spoilage, or to assess blame. The records must be inspected at various stages. Diesel fuel must be sufficient to run the cooler during an ocean voyage, etc. You can ship ten tons of ice cream to the Sahara, if you can afford the freight, and insure it to arrive hard and tasty.

But the big question always remains: What is inside the container? Nobody knows unless the seals are broken and the contents are physically inspected.

It hardly matters who runs the port, unless you suspect that contraband is going to be added AT THE PORT, or that the container will be allowed to BYPASS CUSTOMS. Of course, most containers already do bypass customs. Duties are assessed based on the declared value, tonnage, classification and rate, and simply paid. Containers coming from reputable, frequent shippers are generally ignored, especially if the items are of low value or negligible duty.

Personally, I don't like the idea of a muslim country having anything at all to do with our ports, airports, rail yards, bridges or office buildings. Or universities. Or medical supply houses. Or hospitals. Or shopping centers. Or hotels.

But I am having a hard time grasping how a terrorist could take any greater advantage of foreign ownership than is already available, right now. Even American firms will have to hire "without regard to age, sex, race, religion, national origin, or marital status."

We have boxed ourselves in with multiculturalism and PC-ism. That die has already been cast.

And the war goes on.

Posted by: texan at March 8, 2006 10:36 PM

Defender of Islam: All your base are belong to us.

Posted by: Shinoliite at March 8, 2006 10:37 PM

What if America defines Islam as a cult? Can we go all WACO on it!!

Posted by: Jim at March 8, 2006 10:58 PM

Defensive About Islam-

If I understand what you are trying to say*, we MAY NOT decide for ourselves what laws we want to enact?

Because of the fear of some potentially "unconstitutional" aspect of this law, that worry would be enough to castrate our instinct for self-preservation with mere mumbo-jumbo?

And that: we SHOULD NOT upgrade our U.S.-based refineries, or drill in our own continental area, because your blood brothers need our cash?

As a nation of laws, what we understand is:

Laws come; laws go.

They have more to do with the mindset of the majority than any abstractions like "Law" and "legality".

If the mainstream viewpoint changes, the laws can be changed.

We're as flexible as all pragmatists must be.

The way monks in Eastern "faiths" will gladly burn their idols to keep their family and neighbors warm, we will use ours for fuel, if need be.

Nothing is sacred but the spirit.

Not books. Not prophets.

Stripped for battle.

Posted by: profitsbeard at March 8, 2006 11:00 PM

Dear Texasian and Ronin who are oversimple idiots.
Posted by: DefenderofIslam at March 8, 2006 10:17 PM
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Thanks DI,

This is the best compliment that I have had in ages. Most of 'em are four lettered.

The Texican.

Posted by: Texican at March 8, 2006 11:20 PM

defenderofislam.. if your cult ..or religion as you wish was all that you think it is, it would not need any defenders..but because it is based on evil idoleogy it therefores needs people like you to defend it. the oil might come from middle east, but we have the fertile soils and lands that produce the food that middle easterners need to survive. we dont need middle eastern oil. the west is just using it up now, so when it runs out, we will use our own oil, and technology. you can go back to sleep with your camels in the tents in the middle of the desert.

Posted by: Lulu at March 8, 2006 11:20 PM

Defenderofislam, thank you for making my night. To have a supporter of a false prophet call me an idiot, you are a riot. I can book you in the local clubs we will share in the money. Dude, I can make enough money with you and your comedy routine to buy Saudi Arabia, I'll make you an emir and you can own your own oil well. BTW, if we don't pass laws to stop you thugs we will hunt you down one by one. We don't need the government for that. Bring it, and watch the fun. Personally, If I were you I'd stick to comedy. I have personally sent a few of your buddies to allah. I didn’t like it much, sort of like taking out the trash. You see, we believe in freedom for everyone. That means everyone; black, white, Jew, Christen even the few muslims who can behave. Before you resort to more name-calling understand this, we elect the people who write the laws. If they don’t follow the will of the people we fire them and get more. True, some academics love you guys, folks like me are ready to talk to you one on one anytime and anywhere. Go home, dude, and live out your days in peace. America is not for sale, never was, never will be. You can’t scare me, intimidate me or beat me. I have seen your muslim holy warriors up close and personal, we killed them and laughed at their lack of skills. I didn’t understand why they fell so quickly, maybe it was allahs will. Allah knows best. I think he is on our side. I don’t hate you, just feel sorry for you and the millions of misguided cousins you have around you.

Posted by: Ronin at March 8, 2006 11:22 PM

I have just seen there is going to be a demo for free speach infront of the Danish Embassy this Friday March 10th in San Francisco.

http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=19935

Any JWers in the bay area going to go?

Posted by: km at March 8, 2006 11:24 PM

Freedom of thought will equal the death of Islam and that is what America is trying to export to the Middle East and greater Muslim world. It requires a united front at home and we need to be frank about our aims and goals. There will of course be birthing pains, denials, and all that that goes on with the elimination of a brainwashing ideology, but the planet will be better off for it.

Posted by: Jim at March 8, 2006 11:25 PM

BTW, ya'll "dude" is arabic for "worm", fits doesn't it?

Posted by: Ronin at March 8, 2006 11:26 PM

Congress cannot make any laws that say foreign cannot own any bussienes in America.
Posted by: DefenderofIslam at March 8, 2006 10:17 PM
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DI, Congress can make any laws that they want including taking all foreign ownership away. The Muslims called in nationalization. Remember??

Foreign investment in America, probably exceeds our national debt.

And who in the hell is going to stop us if the American citizen makes it part of the Bill of Rights, then it is Constitutional.

America has the right to protect it citizens in any manner that it wishes, including outlawing Islam when our federal government finally realizes that Islam is a cult of terror and murder.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost.

Posted by: Texican at March 8, 2006 11:30 PM

Patriot2, you are close, I retired last year but on behalf of all of us military types, you are welcome. I suspect I'll be called back to active duty at some point but I'm always ready for a scrap :-)

Posted by: Ronin at March 8, 2006 11:31 PM

OK, OK this particular measure may possibly prove to be ineffective--although I don't think it will do any harm either. But at least there is some light appearing in what up til now has been a very dark scenario. At some level in US government and American society in general the realization is sinking in that islamic jihadists could and really would try to gain and use to our great disadvantage any and all sensitive information concerning our critical port infrastructure and all its implications (and by that I mean our vulnerabilities). For instance, by learning about how much cargo arrives at a certain time,our jihadist friends could find easier ways to smuggle nuclear weapons into the country than they now have. This supposedly "thoroughly vetted deal" (as trumped by President Bush and Ms. Rice) could prove to be a trojan horse in Islam's war on America and human liberty.

Why do our ports matter in the war against jihad? There are many possible answers here. All I will add to a rich collection of posts here is that we do NOT need to give Islamic jihadists any more information concerning US infrastructure that they already have. What information jihadists could get by manning US ports would almost certainly be used AGAINST us. That's the bottom line.

ps-And who really cares about Bill Clinton's $300,000 speeches that he gave in the UAE? He's a capitalist (and a whore). That's what they do--make money. Clinton's just as I say a little more promiscuous than most about it. And he happens to be at loggerheads with Hillary on this--so what else is new???

Posted by: pythagoras at March 8, 2006 11:37 PM

Texican, I have never met you except on line but we are brothers, DOI made my day, so I'm going to open a Danish beer and drink it for both of us, enjoy bro.

Posted by: Ronin at March 8, 2006 11:38 PM

pythagoras the ports don't matter by themselves. They are just a small hint to old mo's followers we have had enough. They can quit now and save themselves a world of hurt or push thier luck. I think the people have picked a side and islam lost.

Posted by: Ronin at March 8, 2006 11:43 PM

Carlsberg Elephant beer is excellent!

*again, can't help myself :)*

Posted by: Mike_W at March 8, 2006 11:48 PM

Mike it is some strong stuff, I'm not sure I'm up to it but I have to do my part for the Danes

Posted by: Ronin at March 8, 2006 11:49 PM

For the Danes...

*chug,chug,chug*

mmmmm...the Dane's Elephant beer is excellent and the Danes are a Western civiization worth fighting for.

To hell with Islam.

Posted by: Mike_W at March 9, 2006 12:05 AM

The threat is almost just as bad as if they controlled the ports. LETS FACE the FACTS!! The goods still arn't being inspected so how can anyone sleep like a baby just because it's not owned by the Saudis?? The saudis or anyone else can send whatever they want and have a 90% chance of not having their cargo inspected before entering our country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY POINT IS THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHOSE "RUNNING" THE PORT IF THE GOODS AREN'T BEING INSPECTED. TALK ABOUT A RED HERRING ISSUE.

Posted by: parainvesta at March 9, 2006 12:18 AM

hmmm...so we need to destroy I\slam a few days earlier...no problem.
Hang on to your nickers parainvesta, we are working on it
:)

P.S...whatever happens.., don't worry...it is all under God's control.. ;)

and it will all work out for the best :)

Posted by: Mike_W at March 9, 2006 12:28 AM

Here, here...... to you Ronin, fellow American.

JD Black Label and coke.

We will win this war with Gods help and the efforts of all across America and the civilized world.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost.

Posted by: Texican at March 9, 2006 12:31 AM

Ronin,
Thank you for your service against jihad.
(My thanks don't do it justice, but I'll say it anyway).

Posted by: WestwardHo at March 9, 2006 12:45 AM

Ronin

Bravo brother!!Lots of vets out there who would organize in a second.

RLTW

Posted by: McSeamus at March 9, 2006 12:58 AM

-Ronin

There seem to be quite a few more of us than Latino posited on a previous thread.

Posted by: Eisenhund at March 9, 2006 1:30 AM

"oversimple idiots"....well, at least Defender doesn't mince any words (although he could use some help on spelling them).

Posted by: champ at March 9, 2006 1:34 AM

What do you expect from someone who's a plain ol' simple idiot?

Posted by: Eisenhund at March 9, 2006 1:46 AM

jihadwatch rocks!!!!!!!!

Posted by: stranger at March 9, 2006 2:57 AM

DefenderOfIslam, why are you here as your ignorance is appalling! Congress can and does make laws about which foreign countries that businesses are allowed to work with.

After 9/11, that list grew exponentially. Sensitive industries are controlled as to what they can export.

Clinton by the way, bypassed that and sold sensitive computer and nuclear technology to China and N. Korea which is why the Clintons get bashed on this site.

Posted by: learjet0450 at March 9, 2006 7:55 AM

DefenderOfIslam:

I thing you are than moslim? It moslim use a form of cellective pruminent to harm all un moslim, arenot totaly against Islam? It so, how? It not, whynot? It moslim in bussien for acting in wrong manner to harm all un moslim, or it tiny Major extermintist who badly mistood Islam and thereby badly mistreated the local people ON their own territies (have 9/11 for example), what methord for stopping if do you pruprose?

Can't we collective pruminent ALL moslim it ALL moslim nations genrally agree with actions of than teorrists? We can refuse to recognite any idology than we thing is haramful to our itersts...

I always love inornent moslim people who lektur over and over again than infidels. I love moslim critize against America or critize or methords it than moslim want to harm American. I love inornent moslim lektur American about American law, as if any inornent moslim can possbly know such thang...

I love inornent moslim rage against cartoons, or moslim say harm "image" in the Muslim world, rather than moslim bussien of terrorism, riots, rampage, suchlike, if do much more harm of images of moslim in the moslim world than any bussien we are do.

It muslim have than legal right to boycott America, or worst it moslim can kill people of American, and tryto mow than down with SUVs, than what about boycott of send ALL medines and ALL other vital thing to stay alive of computers, cars, SUVS, etc. for moslims, and kept them away than moslim forever? If be fair? If be just? I thing so.

It moslim can collect pruminion against Denmark for printing cartoon, of America for sporting Israel such as 9/11, of collect pruminion than other country such than Bali, UK, Spain, France, and Beslan Russia, than you thing hold all moslim collect guielt if fair? Whynot? Than America ban ALL moslim in American, can American do it totaly legality binding? If seem prefectly fair I thing.

Also -- I thing than other day you said your medine was over from germany because of moslim boycott against American-- what medine to than germany company doyou take? If than psychiatrical by any chance?

Posted by: jsla at March 9, 2006 4:26 PM

(Never mind than ports!)

Posted by: jsla at March 9, 2006 4:32 PM

Was my post somehow unpalatable?

For the record, DefenderOfIslam is my favorite Muslim poster here -- I keep posting in his style and using his spellings in the hopes that he will respond directly, but he never does... It makes me sad.

He's like a rarely seen bird -- you know he's out there, he keeps chirping within earshot in his unique species way -- but he never eats the crumbs I leave for his delectation...

Posted by: jsla at March 10, 2006 12:57 PM

By your westerm insult our Prophet you seal your defeat. Almost all Danish bussienesman and woman are
mad at the PM of Denmark for not handling the insult to our Prophet in the right way. I than a native borm America and our Government have no legal authority to declare or undeclare a religion. I was born with than brain damage speech center and I than much better now in when in the past. I beat up four FBI man in 1971 when they insult me in a bar own by a retire FBI man they where stone dunk while I drank only soda. The police arrest me so the retire FBI call up Hoover the than Head of the FBI and told him what happen than they threw the first punch at me so Hoover called up the local police saying he will bail me out which stock everybody. He gave those 4 agents hell for being stone drunk while on duty, assaulting than civilation, insulting than civilation, insulting than handicapp person. Islam is than peaceful religion that calm me down. I never have any problen with the Nation of Islam and I than white america but I never use the N word expect when some black 9 year headbang rob and rape my grand ma in the South Bronze. I use it around then by mistake and then I start to say sorry they me saying it isnot needed as that is what so headbanger are than they will deal with then for me as the do the samething to old blackwoman.

Posted by: DefenderofIslam at March 10, 2006 7:35 PM

Wow! Than amazing story! I thing you ferry much for than good post.

Handicapp or Andy Capp??? Iam still confuse. And what medine again? (Form germnay company you said?)

Sorry to here about your borm with damage speech center, I am glad than much better! Sorry to here about than grand ma in the South Bronze. Ouch! (An never use than N word, expectorantly it you are than plane civilation -- you are lucky not tobe stone dread!)

By what your mean "insult our Prophet you seal your defeat"???
Than sounds like treat to me! What your mean?

Posted by: jsla at March 10, 2006 8:05 PM

DefenderofIslam? ...

DefenderofIslam? ...

???

Posted by: jsla at March 11, 2006 10:34 AM