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March 9, 2006

New York: Top jail imam in hate tirade

How many times is this sort of thing going to happen before officials learn how to ask the right questions -- questions that will expose, insofar as this can be done at all, whether or not an imam holds to the jihad ideology? Of course, they probably don't want to ask those questions, because they know what the answers will be. "Top Jail Imam In Hate Tirade," from the New York Post:

March 9, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - The head of Islamic chaplains in the New York City Department of Correction said in a recent speech that the "greatest terrorists in the world occupy the White House," Jews control the media, and Muslims are being tortured in Manhattan jails.

The outlandish remarks were made by one of the city's most prominent Islamic leaders, Imam Umar Abdul-Jalil, the executive director of ministerial services for the city Department of Correction. He spoke at a conference of Islamic leaders in Tucson, Ariz., and was secretly recorded by the counterterrorism organization The Investigative Project.

The recordings capture Abdul-Jalil - speaking at two separate symposiums on Islam in America held by the Muslim Students Association on April 15 and 16 last year - making incendiary charges and espousing extremist views.

Abdul-Jalil, 56, who is also imam of the Masjid Sabur mosque in Harlem, initially denied making the comments - but later admitted to The Post that the tape was most likely accurate and said his words are being "taken out of context."

Why of course they were. When has a man like this ever been quoted in context?

Posted by Robert at March 9, 2006 6:00 AM
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The only real surprise here is that his name is not Mohammed.

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 6:15 AM

Here's photo of this clown in full blown Muslim costume. He's a black Muslim, not a foreign import.
http://tinyurl.com/mfgpq

Posted by: dennisw [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 6:33 AM

Western prisons are a boon for Muslims for they are filled with the violent disaffected, marginalized, and unhappy who are often there because of unhappiness with society, who have rejected values and would willingly attach themselves to an ideology that readily uses the attributes that they have and admire: violence, thievery, rape, etc. to achieve the goal of Paradise.

"Paradise" for Christianity and Judaism promises the presence of God; Islam promises the vanquish of one's enemies and the attainment of earthly pleasures.

Posted by: epg [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 6:37 AM

And here is one of the reasons why the threat of Radical Islam is not the same as the threat of Nazism or Communism.

Would Nazi-sympathizers arrested in allied countries during WW II have been allowed regular visits from some acolyte of Alfred Rosenberg? Would this hypothetical acolyte also have been allowed to proselytize at large among the prison population - a disaffected population, let us recall, and therefore ripe for subversion? Of course not. But because Islam is a "religion" and not an "ideology" these rights must be granted.

Thus are the rights that our societies grant turned against us by people who have no respect for those rights in the first place.

Similarly, Cherie Blair, wife the British Prime Minister, a "useful idiot", a woman who said Palestinians felt they had "no hope" but to blow themselves up, pursues Islamist claims at the European Court of Human Rights. A lawsuit to allow a girl to wear the hijab to school was instigated by her brother, a member of Hizb ut Tahrir. This, of course, has nothing to do with human rights and everything to do with creeping sharia.

Mrs Blair is a direct descendant of John Wilkes Booth - perhaps she hopes to do more damage than he did.


Posted by: Yojimbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 6:39 AM

Oh, while we're on prison, See also this story - a Daily Mirror exclusive.

A JAIL decision to give £1,000 laptops to 28 top terror suspects was last night branded "disgraceful" and a dangerous waste of money.

Belmarsh bosses said the computers were necessary to help the men prepare their legal defences.

But angry critics said the £28,000 would be better spent on upping security at the jail which, the Mirror can reveal, is about a third understaffed.

They also fear that the laptops could be used for criminal activity even though there will be no internet access.

The prisoners include those accused of the 21/7 attempted bombings in London, al-Qaeda suspects and members of the bullying Muslim Boys gang.

Laptops for Terror suspects

Posted by: Yojimbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 6:42 AM

What is remarkable about Abdul-Jalil is his utter hypocrisy, his cowardice. I am not a religious man (really-so preachers back off), but it has always caused me to wonder that Jesus never condemned a sinner but always condemned hypocrites, even calling the clergy of his time "whitened sepulchres." Actually, he called the Pharisees worse than that-sometimes he called them "snakes." Abdul-Jalil is a hypocrite, a snake.

"Thou blind Pharisees, cleanse first the inside of the cup and of the platter, and the outside also shall become clean. Ye make yourselves like unto whitened sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but within are full of dead men's bones and of all uncleanness Matt. 23:26-27"

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 7:01 AM

Robert has a point, a bunch of these clowns would get more public scrutiny than they want if the proper questions were asked. They want notoriety not exposure. Some of you educated and more articulate types write down questions. Questions muslims can’t answer publicly without exposing their agendas. We faithful jw/dw addicts could start attending some of the public meets and simply ask the questions. We could mail copies to all our local press and email them around so folks could ask their muslim co workers.
This is on my first cup of joe and after a night of supporting Denmark (what do they put in that beer?) but here are a few questions I think need asked.

Explain to us exactly what Jihad is (leading the witness)
Under what circumstances is violence allowed?
Do you support efforts to bring Shairia law into our town/city/nation?
Do you support all religious activity equally?
What are your thoughts on the cartoon issue, was it freedom of speech?
Can you explain why the muslim word over reacted and refuse to let the issue drop?
Would you do to help promote peaceful co-existence?

OK, I’m sure you get the idea. The real experts on this list could develop ten questions that would be extremely useful if handed out to the press, elected officials and us regular joes who have muslim co-workers. This idea might make a good article for jw (just a suggestion). Top ten questions and maybe warning signs of deceit. If the speakers are legit they shouldn’t fear a few questions, right?

Posted by: Ronin [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 7:14 AM

Ronin, don't forget to throw in Mo and Aisha into the questions.

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 7:20 AM

Freewoman I left those out for a couple of reasons: I don’t think the average person would know who Aisha was and if you bring old mo into it, the speaker was just start claiming you were islamiaphobic. I think questions that would show their extremist views would lead to follow on questions by other audience members. Consider a speaker saying anything favorable about sharia, someone would ask what it is. Once that question is answered publicly the speaker just lost all credibility. Why do you need muslim law when you already have a working legal system? Why impose muslim law on non muslims? The truth will lead to the fall of islam.

Posted by: Ronin [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 7:30 AM

You don't think asking why they worship a man that likes little girls wouldn't wake up the audiences?

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 7:35 AM

The worst thing about this Jewish-controlled media is how nothing is broadcast from sundown Friday to sundown on Saturday.

Posted by: AnneCrockett [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 7:36 AM

You beat me to it Yojimbo. The bit of the story which really got my goat when I read it yesterday was this

"But a source at the jail said: "The governor does everything possible to accommodate the Muslims' needs. During Ramadan, staff stayed up all night cooking for men who had fasted during the day.

"We cater for their special diet needs and accommodate every religious festival in the Islamic calendar.

"But when prisoners asked for a Midnight Mass service at Christmas they were told we didn't have the staff."

B*****.....er.....
Balderdash!

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 7:37 AM

Bohemond_1069
The only real surprise here is that his name is not Mohammed.

But he was a Doctor, right? Dr. Abdul-Jalil?
No? Surely that's a misprint.

Posted by: FallingProphet [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 7:46 AM

Yes, it tells you a lot, Granny Weatherwax, doesn't it?

The only encouraging thing I can see here is that the Mirror, a staunchly left-wing paper, is beginning to print articles like this. Of course, left-wing is a vague term - specifically the Mirror is a part of the traditional Labour movement, which is far more likely to see sense than the middle-class left-liberal establishment, as represented by the Guardian/"Independent".

Posted by: Yojimbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 8:02 AM

FallingProphet, yes, a doctor of divinity, at least as far as his title goes. To quote Jesus, "Physician, heal thyself".
Also worthy of note: he became a convert to Islam while he was serving time in jail. Good abeed.

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 9:13 AM

I love this part:

"Abdul Jalil...initially DENIED making the comments - but later admitted to The Post the tapes were most likely accurrate but said his comments were taken out of context."

Read bewteen the lines: Abdul LIED about making the comments up until he was shown proof of the audio tapes. Whoops. It was only then that Abdul fell back on the lame "taken out of contxt" defense.

Just remember: it's not a sin to lie if you're a muslim.

Posted by: omvi [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 9:19 AM

Would this Abdul Jalil like to go visit Dafur? mmm wonder if he thinks slavery is still okayk, and visit the north of Sudan..look at all the little blcak kids working for their arab bosses.. l just dont understand these useful western idoits,, especially black African Americans who become muslim. they are backing the religion/culture that still practices slavery! we need to get our money together and send this man over to Dafur real fast for a fast education on his beloved cult!

Posted by: Lulu [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 10:28 AM

This shows the real problem. The leaders of the Muslim religon have caused it to degenerate into a criminal enterprise. The Imams, ayatollahs, and other leaders preach violence, hate of America, Israel, and/or anything that offends their delicate sensablities. They set events into action through their rhetoric and may aid criminal acts by providing cover and or materials. (Do the openly criminal actions of the NY Blind Shiek come to mind?) After terror or violence occurs, they disavow any responsibility. We need to hold the leaders of their religon that forment violence accountable fotheir words and actions. In criminal proceedings you can be convicted of murder even if you weren't there, (look at the Manson trial). To preach violence in time of war could garner charges for sedition, or treason. Then there is the RICO act for taking part in actions of a criminal enterprise. Freedom of Religon aside, we need to take advantage of the tools we have to stop the formentors of criminal acts. The Mosques cannot be used as a shield for criminal acts of sedition, violence, terrorism and/or treason.

Check out http://www.law.ou.edu/hist/sedact.html
for more info on the sedition act of 1798

Posted by: GrimReaperxxx [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 10:37 AM

A question from Freewoman, posted above “You don't think asking why they worship a man that likes little girls wouldn't wake up the audiences?”

Absolutely, but again first we make them question the mouthpieces for Islam. Once they take the time to hear what they are saying the message and messenger will discredit themselves. Most of the gory details will not come out until they start to learn about islams past. I know the numbers are growing rapidly but we still have people out there that just think of islam as another religion and hence no threat. My thought was simple, start with easy to remember questions pass them around, demand answers and add to them as awareness spreads. In short, I’m doing the same thing back to the muslims they have done for centuries.

Muslim method:

First they pick a target (potential convert)
Approach it and probe it
Find a weakness and engage the target (normally using guilt shame and anger issues against target)
Target converts seeing islam as something worthwhile. (plays on need to feel excepted)
Target is slowly influenced to change (wear Islamic garb, renamed to Islamic name, separated from friends and family). In short separate them from help.
Hook is buried deeply in target and target is destroyed.

Now for my counter:

First find and identify and locate the spreaders of this cult (at the local level).
Approach it and probe it. Force them to show their real agenda.
Find a weakness and engage the spokesman. Use every opportunity to have a peaceful exchange of ideas. The more they talk the more feet they put in their own mouths. Use technology to help spread the truth across local population. Letters to editors, religious figures and local groups who don’t understand why they should not support local muslims. Take away the PC message and demand accountability.
Spokesmen will discredit themselves by not being able to justify their actions. People are not buying the everyone who questions us is an islamaphobic theme.
Spokesman is slowly influenced to change message (go off topic and attempt to misdirect counter message), they will also attempt to explain Islamic past as ancient history totally unrelated to today’s reality. Try and find or force support from other non muslims. Attempts to outlaw anything that discredits islam will bring even more scrutiny. Public starts to wonder what all the hoopla is about and questions force even more problems on local muslim mouthpieces. Islam would not need to be protected if it was not doing anything wrong. The truth is a powerful weapon.
Hook is buried deeply in public and spokesman’s real agenda is now public knowledge, his credibility is destroyed and he isr forced to move or go inactive.

Islamaphobic who me? Nah, just not backing down. I am not advocating any violence or encouraging anyone to actively hunt muslims. I’m simply letting you know how they spread the message and how you can counter it. Peaceful resistance, talk to your kids, neighborhood kids, relatives. Simply point people to the local library. Buy copies of Robert’s books and give them to anyone who questions you and your agenda. My agenda is simple, stay free.

Posted by: Ronin [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 10:46 AM

"it's not a sin to lie if you're a muslim."
-- from a posting above

To lie about little things may be frowned on in intra-Muslim matters, but to lie in defense of the Faith, to protect and promote the Faith, against others, is not merely not a sin, but religiously-sanctioned dissimulation.

Taqiyya, kitman, or just denying about what you know to be true (as the man in Nashville, hysterically using the "Do you know Arabic" question to distract attention from, and undercut, a question he certainly did not wish to respond to).

"War is deception" said Muhammad in a famous Hadith.

And what Muhammad did or said is not, as Muslim apologists claim, merely one that needs to be properly "contextualized" because the context, apparently, doesn't matter. He, Muhammad, is uswa hasana, al-insan al-kamil, the Model for All Time.

Did he marry nine-year-old Aisha? He did, indeed he did. And there might have been no changes in recent Iranian law at all when Khomeini came to power had Muhammad not loved, centuries ago, a certain initial girl-child. But because Muhammad had, and so Khomeini did make those changes, lowering the marriageable age of girls to nine.

When Muhammad speaks, and for all time announces that "war is deception" within millions of brains on Islam that phrase will be echoed: "War is deception." Explicitly-worked out doctrines of religiously-sanctioned dissimulation --taqiyya, kitman -- are in a sense unnecessary. They are merely elaborations on tha statement, and on the actions of Muhammad who according to his biographers was a skillful practitioner of what he preached. And what is "war"? War is essentially "Jihad" -- war to spread Islam, to defeat the Infidels, to remove any barriers they may have set up to the spread of Islam.

The example in the article above is one of many (a few are listed by Robert). Australians will think of Keyzar Trad. Ohioans will think of Fawaz Damra. Residents of New York will think of that imam at the largest mosque who hastily left for Egypt once certain statements of his, contradicting his sweetness-and-light "dialogue" appearance, came to light. It never ends. And, given what is taught to those whose teachers take their Lesson Plan from Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira, it never will.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 10:51 AM

Hugh, thanks for this quote "War is deception" said Muhammad in a famous Hadith.

What old mo failed to realize is deception is only effective when it deceives. Thanks to the efforts of the experts like you, Robert and the rest of the jw/dw writers their efforts to deceive us have slowly started to change to exposure. Multiple fronts, they use it so do we. What was the Chinese proverb, a journey of a thousand miles starts but with a single step.

Posted by: Ronin [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 11:16 AM

Ronin your ideas are great about finding out who are local immans, and visit their so called open houses.. the Stand for Denmark in Toronto is four hours away, and l wish l could attend. just talking to friends, l have copies of the cartoons, and showed them to visiting friends, and told them this is what sent those muslims over the edge! my friends coult not believe how insane the muslims are over these cartoons! l think the more you show how absurb, evil, this doctrine is, the more we can fight and win this war!

Posted by: Lulu [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 11:47 AM

Kick him and his whole flock out. Simple as that.
The French recently drove to an extremist clerics home, shoved him in a car and shoved him into a plane out of France!

We can all learn from that. Who cares if he is a supposed religious guy?
Send him to a Middle East dust bowl and watch him cry like a baby for all those TV dinners, healthcare benefits and general benefits he will now not be able to leech from those he dis-respects.

Posted by: DaveyFreak [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 12:04 PM

Lulu the biggest tactical reason to resist at the local level is it denies them sanctuary. It takes away any argument that a small number of muslims make the rest look bad. Exposure of their agenda has a twofold effect: Takes away non muslim support, tax incentives and preferential treatment. It also forces them to limit their activities and careful plan each move. On one hand you would think it helps make them better at deception but not really, it slows them down and makes them paranoid. They can no longer claim other (nameless) muslims are the problem. They are forced to slow down and seek “stupid people or useful allies”. A few well placed letters, comments, flyers and phone calls go a long way. Deny support, deny sanctuary.

Posted by: Ronin [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 12:17 PM

NO!! The guy lied??? I'm Shocked!!

Yesterday there was a headline posted, You Gotta Love It, outlining some changes in legislation concerning our ports. Ok - that helps - but this needs to be addressed too....

an area of legislation that REALLY needs to be changed pertains to mosques right here in America; because now we have PROOF (ie, this tape) that some - if not most - of these locations are nothing more than a hot-house for terrorists, and those who incite hatred and destruction towards Jews and Americans.

I don't know enough about legislation, and the problems that might arise from changing how churches/mosques are protected, but SOMETHING needs to change so these mosques can be investigated and held accountable for their terrorist activity.

There was a story on Fox News last week, maybe some of you saw it, about this very issue. And the gentlemen being interviewed had suggested the above strategy; also, he relayed a story from a pastor in the mid-west, that on the morning of 9-11, as he was opening up his own chapel, he noticed that the parking lot to the mosque across the street from him WAS FULL, and he thought that it was very unusual to see a full parking lot in the middle of the week. He later learned why that parking lot (might) have been full, and then contacted authorities.

Did anyone else catch this story on Fox?

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 12:21 PM

"Abdul Jalil...initially DENIED making the comments - but later admitted to The Post the tapes were most likely accurrate but said his comments were taken out of context."

Read bewteen the lines: Abdul LIED about making the comments up until he was shown proof of the audio tapes. Whoops. It was only then that Abdul fell back on the lame "taken out of contxt" defense.

LOL...Abdul-Jalil's comments were recorded so just how were they taken out of context?

Posted by: Roxane [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 12:42 PM

watched the news tonight,an ex supply teacher has taken over twenty students hostage at a school in northern france,says he feels dissaffected and pissed off because he cant get work...could he be a muslim i wonder??? me thinks he is!!


Posted by: anglosaxoncrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 1:04 PM

Ronin, lulu, and others,

I have taken the time to annotate each of the twelve original Jjllands-Posten drawings.

The annotations make it quite clear that American journalists have deceived the public with claims that 'depictions' were suitable substitutes for publishing them.

If you show these to your friends, they too will be convinced.

I've already sent them to many news outlets and politicians.

Feel free to contact me at robertcorrow@sbcglobal.net and I'll send you a copy. The two attachments are MS Word documents.

Bob Corrow
USN (Ret)

Posted by: PRCS [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 1:17 PM

Muslims are being tortured in Manhattan jails.
--- prominent NY Islamic leader Imam Umar Abdul-Jalil

From the very beginning, going all the way back to the streets of Mecca 1,390 years ago, the act of fake victimism has been a central feature of Islam.

Back then, an apparently gullible God was kind enough to allow Moslems to commit murder when suffering persecution, all because Arab pagans had the nerve to complain after hearing Mohammed's death threats and promises of caravan robberies and economic ruin. Imagine that.

Moslems are always aggrieved. They've been programmed by the Islam scriptures to be poor victims of imaginary wrongs left with no choice but to kill in response.

That is why all Moslems are whiners. That is why all Moslems are child-like. That is why all Moslems are extremely dangerous.

Moslems are self-referential whiners with brains deprogrammed by the Books to decouple from reality.

That is why Moslems align so well with other decoupled groups, such as Leftists.

Normally, we'd rely on the media to point out the unreality of Moslem claims. But they, in turn must normally rely on the academicians to isolate and prove Moslem claims to be lies. But, our professors themselves have devolved into professional liars .

So, to whom can we turn to break us out of this Fictive Reality downward spiral?

MORE KORANS MORE HADITHS MORE SIRATS MORE DAVID GREGORY MORE WHINERS

Wait till a team of intense, scowling Moslems detonate an atomic bomb. Then, maybe then, a leader will emerge to reinstall the Truth.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 1:33 PM

American -

I read the same info on Mo myself - that he married this "child" at the age of 6, and then had sex with her when she was 9. Some reports say he had 14 wives - some say he had 25.

Sounds like a sex-crazed-predifile to me! And isn't that what "religious cult leaders" practice? Sex with children/more than one wife. Hmmm.

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 2:03 PM

"When has a man like this ever been quoted in context?"--Robert

The context argument as used by Islamists is funny, that's for sure. All quotation, by definition, involves taking words out of their original context.

The issue is simply whether or not removing the words from their context changes the original or intended meaning in some way that matters. This is what the fire-brand imam Abdul-Jalil, like so many others of his rank, hopes to imply. They usually never do get around to explaining why a particular quote has been removed unfairly. And no one ever seems to ask them the question (what is it, exactly, that reporters do?). As with the "you don't know Arabic" argument, it is not so much an argument as the name of an argument, a way of saying "Leave me alone; I'm not answering your questions (more evasion to follow, therefore don't bother following up)." It's not an argument, it's an IOU (I owe you).

The imams and spokesmen do not often get around to explaining how examining the context actually makes them look a whole lot worse. What is the context of the imam's statements? He was addressing a large number of Muslims, trying to convince them of his views. What are his views? See Koran 48:29, which he partially quotes: Be merciful toward other believers, but be hard against the unbelievers. The context? The previous verse says it all:

48:28 "He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion. And Allah sufficeth as a Witness."

The context of the passage is physical jihad fighting to wipe out disbelief/polytheism and make Allah's religion supreme. Are we to believe the imam has not read 48:28, which immediately precedes the one he quoted?

Other Variations of the same imperialist sentiment (context: war or pending war to destroy polytheism/disbelief):

9:33 He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.

61:9 He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may make it conqueror of all religion however much idolaters may be averse.

There is no greater context than that in Islam.


Posted by: Archimedes [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 2:04 PM

Archimedes -

I'm struck by the last passage you quoted from the Quran in 61:9, "that He may make it conqueror of all religions however much idolators may be averse", because of a glaring contrast between Islam and Christianity.

In Islam, you have the faithful followers taking it upon THEMSELVES to conquer the world and other religions; but in Christianity, you have the complete opposite, because Jesus said that He will return and set-up His kingdom himself.

My question is this, why isn't Mo coming back to conquer the world himself? Why is he asking his followers to do his dirty work for him?

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 2:58 PM

I love this part:

"Abdul Jalil...initially DENIED making the comments - but later admitted to The Post the tapes were most likely accurrate but said his comments were taken out of context."

Read bewteen the lines: Abdul LIED about making the comments up until he was shown proof of the audio tapes. Whoops. It was only then that Abdul fell back on the lame "taken out of contxt" defense.

Just remember: it's not a sin to lie if you're a muslim. ~ omvi


Having recently been on a message board with muslims, I found it funny how muslims lie about being able to lie. What becomes unfunny is some Western dolt buys the lie that muslims cannot lie. muslims do not believe in the 10 Commandments, a significant piece of Judaism and Christianity not stolen by Ol' Mo when he miraculously brought forth the koran and the religion of allah.

Posted by: Rick [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 4:03 PM

Champ above raises an issue that I think has been addressed before: Isn't it odd (perverted) to allow earthly beings (man) the power to render the judgment of a so-called "G*d" (Allah) to judge the sins of man while on earth?

I'm not articulate. Forgive me.

It just seems to me that Muslims believe they have the exclusive POWER to render God's judgment to other men while here on earth rather than waiting for the Final Day of Judgment.

The notion that Muslims (exclusively to hear them tell it) will be the "judges" of morality until such time as allah deems fit to return to earth is very much in keeping with their inflated egos as supremacists.

It's really quite disgusting if you take the time to think it entirely through.

For example: Allah says homosexuals are to be shunned and killed. So rather than wait for the Final Day of Judgment, the muslims will kill any homos they discover while waiting until Allah returns. Muslims will extract allah's punishment in the here and now.

I just can't get past the idea that one human being (or any god) would believe it to be okay to kill another human being just becuase of the other's sexuality.


Yet this is what the mainstream muslim believes.


Mainstream Muslims who believe this to be true are a sick breed of people in need of therapy. Without therapy they need to be isloated. Isolated will extreme prejudice.

Posted by: omvi [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 5:03 PM

DennisW: Great photo. And look at those shoes!!

Posted by: texan [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 6:03 PM

The Grimreaper sez: This shows the real problem. The leaders of the Muslim religon have caused it to degenerate into a criminal enterprise.

Islam has not degenerated into anything. It has been a criminal enterprise since Mohammad and Allah invented each other. 'Loot is lawful', Loot is good' or Allahu Akbar for short.

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 7:06 PM

Omvi sez: until such time as allah deems fit to return to earth is very much in keeping with their inflated egos as supremacists.

I dont think Allah is going to return to Earth. He has too much work to do in the Paradise Hotel, brothel, and tonsilarium. You dont understand just how much effort Allah puts in to keeping all the Paradise systems working. As an example, do you have any idea how much toilet paper is used by those multiple 72 virgins. Tissue of any kind is in high demand in Paradise and Allah works his butt off providing it. Then there is all the construction, room additions for zillions of newly dead (arrived) jihadists. Allahs dutys are endless, the wine refils, fruit replacement, interviewing new virgins...Dont count on him returning to Earth soon...he is far to busy...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 7:17 PM

I still remember how all the hipsters wax nostalgic about how great the black Muslims are in reforming hard core criminals, cause it is a religion of criminals.

Posted by: Dumbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 7:30 PM

Well, I've read this posting, and it's the typical pattern repeating itself - prominent imam's hate-filled speech recorded/reported; denial and then admission by the accused that he did indeed make the comments but the "out-of-context" alibi is then, as usual, invoked. The nagging question is: what happens now? What, if any, legal and procedural measures will be taken to punish (i.e. fire) this malign individual? And what, if anything, will be done to ensure that any successor who is appointed will be less malign?

Posted by: commonsense [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 7:47 PM

duh_swami -

Your post was hilarious! Your satire on satan....sorry....Allah, makes me wonder why it's a sin for the Moslems to live a sex-crazed life here on earth, but that that's exactly what heaven will be like for them. Huh?

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 9:41 PM

"Abdul-Jalil, a Bronx resident who said he converted to Islam while at Attica prison in 1970..."

I'm pretty sure that you have to be a violent felon to land yourself in Attica.My question is, how does this guy end up working for the department of corrections, when he is a convicted felon? You would think this would be the one place they wouldn't want any ex-cons working, since they babysit these scumbags all day. I am not surprised at all by the comments. Hopefully his employment there is terminated promptly.

Posted by: McSeamus [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 10:31 PM

Islam knows how to expand in a non-muslim country. It targets the weak and vulnerable sections of the society (such as the blacks in the US, the lower caste people in India etc.) and grooms them as its warriors for fighting the war against the native religions. These neo-converts unknowingly fall for the charms of the new religion, as it creates a false self-esteem in them. The onus rests to a large extent on the native religions, as they have failed to address the concerns of the less advantaged and allowed the situation to develop in an adverse manner.

Posted by: cincinnatikid [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 9, 2006 11:51 PM

You are all really mental, but if this sort of thing is the only thing that fills your time then so be it. you are all really interesting case studies

Posted by: Eire [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 10, 2006 1:42 PM

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