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New York jail jihad update from the New York Sun, with thanks to Ruth King:
Extremist remarks made by the head imam of the city's jail system are generating alarm about whether inmates are being recruited as Islamic fundamentalists.Mayor Bloomberg announced yesterday that the city has suspended Imam Umar Abdul-Jalil of the city's Department of Correction until officials can get more information about his remarks and determine whether he violated any regulations.
"We can't prejudge but we are going to look at it this afternoon," Mr. Bloomberg told reporters yesterday. "Having said that, this morning, so that he would not go back into the jails, we put him on paid administrative leave at least for the day."
The move by the city came after the New York Post reported that Mr. Abdul-Jalil declared in a speech that the White House is run by terrorists and that Muslims were tortured in Manhattan prisons after the World Trade Center attacks.
He also reportedly urged Muslims in America to stop letting "the Zionists of the media to dictate what Islam is to us." The Investigative Project on Terrorism obtained a recording of his speech, a senior researcher with the organization, Tamar Tesler, confirmed yesterday.
The imam, who has been with the department since 1993 and has been overseeing all clergy members at the agency since 2004, could not be reached yesterday. He did, however, publicly deny that he was promoting extremist views and said his comments were taken out of context.
The director of Simon Wiesenthal's New York Tolerance Center, Mark Weitzman, said, if true, the statements are cause for worry about possible recruitment of Islamic fundamentalists in city jails.
Yep.
Posted by Robert at March 10, 2006 8:55 AM
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Extremist remarks made by the head imam of the city's jail system are generating alarm about whether inmates are being recruited as Islamic fundamentalists.
Duh, no -- that's impossible! It could never happen, not in this country anyway.
Go back to sleep, everything is under complete control ... complete control ... complete control ... comp SNIP
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at March 10, 2006 9:04 AM
Hopefully American history books will someday reflect upon how allowing Islam into this country was a grave mistake that was eventually corrected.
If they don't ...then we have ceased to exist as a Western nation.
Posted by: Foehammer at March 10, 2006 9:22 AM
Oh noooo, things are getting out of context!
Posted by: loler at March 10, 2006 9:28 AM
From the article,
"He also reportedly urged Muslims in America to stop letting "the Zoinist of the media to dictate what Islam is to us."
Now, I know that he's not talking about the "mainstream U.S. media" that's too cowardly to even print 12 harmless cartoons from Denmark.
Posted by: Ironman Hondo at March 10, 2006 9:47 AM
This madam was caught in normal Muslim doublespeak.
Now what do you think Mohammed El Baradai says to the Iranians in closed sessions ?
Posted by: dgene at March 10, 2006 9:47 AM
And they wonder why they are looked viewed the way they are
How do you view Islam? * 82803 responses
Favorably.
14%
Unfavorably.
73%
I'm not sure.
13%
at March 10, 2006 9:58 AM
It can be argued either way whether or not, as a custodian, the government should have religious officials in its employ.
But, if the government chooses to do so, then it is a responsibility that none of the state-sponsored religions is actually an organized crime ring.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at March 10, 2006 10:09 AM
"He did, however, publicly deny that he was promoting extremist views and said his comments were taken out of context".
In his ideology the views he expressed aren't extremist. He's just being a good little Imam preaching the Koran and vilifying the infidels.
Perhaps we should ship the moron to a turd infested tent on the Pakistani border, there he'll feel at home with his like minded throat slitter's.
Posted by: Ken at March 10, 2006 10:21 AM
Nice comment witness!
Says it all.
at March 10, 2006 10:27 AM
Prison recruitment is very huge in the Islamic dawah scene. At my college, the MSA chapter devoted resources to these activities.
However, I think that the imams should be screened in terms of not involving themselves in political manners.
If they are allowed to make contact with prisoners, they should only be allowed to speak on spiritual manners that are not laden with political content. Allow them to only offer a sanitized version of Islam, one that is filtered by the censors.
Posted by: pikachu at March 10, 2006 10:38 AM
However, I think that the imams should be screened in terms of not involving themselves in political manners.
How can he do that? After all, Islam is not a religion, it's a political ideology, and a predatory one.
So, if he's non-political then he's not a Moslem. And, if he's not a Moslem then he can't be an Imam.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at March 10, 2006 10:43 AM
"He did, however, publicly deny that he was promoting extremist views and said his comments were taken out of context."
Of course all non muslims are stupid, jump to conclusions and do not understand the esoterics that the most high and unasailable religion of Islam profers to those who believe.
It's about time the lies, smarmy platitudes, indignant afronts, intimidation, crying racist, rape, murder and all the other evil acts perpetrated by the Islamists where rammed back down people like
Abdul-Jalil's throats with the words....
your time is up, now get out.
at March 10, 2006 10:51 AM
Hear, hear, Martel360. By allowing the criminal enterprise called Islam (or, Surrender in 7th century Arabic) into into our jails, the government is promoting violence against innocents. To wit:
Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us.
--- Tabari IX:69
Allahu is all about me and you. This is why I keep a copy of the Noble Koran at my toilet, where it belongs.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at March 10, 2006 11:04 AM
He did, however, publicly deny that he was promoting extremist views and said his comments were taken out of context.
Sure, he was taken "out of context." Is there an extremist or liar who hasn't been.
When, O when, will we get an honest statement that isn't served up with a pile of warm, steaming, stinking 'taqiya'? Couldn't I at least get to choose what flavor mine is?
Posted by: DesertDawgN29 at March 10, 2006 11:25 AM
"We can't prejudge..."
I suggest we might just want to start when it comes to Muslims. Perhaps our better selves are preventing us from understanding how deep this Muslim cesspool in our midst actually is... And what about this filth stained Imam's acolytes and fellow Imams? What about them? Apparently not a peep from them... no signal to the rest of us that something was amiss with this hate spewing Muslim bigot, as usual...
For our very lives and continued survival we must somehow bend our noble and precious forebearance, our well developed pluralistic inclusive desire to refrain from resorting to the basest instincts and prejudices...
We MUST begin prejudging Muslims! We must begin to make the assumption that they might be our enemy until they are sufficiently proven not to be. And the onus must be largely upon them to prove that they are not our enemy. We owe them nothing at this point... It is they who owe us.
Posted by: jsla at March 10, 2006 11:30 AM
It must be the easiest thing in the world to for Moslems to recruit from the prison population:
1) They can tell the inmates that they themselves are victims at the hands of an unsanctioned, illegitimate (i.e. non-Sharia) legal system
2) They can tell the inmates that they need not reform, they need not learn to control their appetite for violence or lack of respect for the property of others. They only need to redirect it to those outside the Ummah. For the time being, this provides a large hunting ground
3) They can further assure the inmates that they have friends on the outside, waiting to help them when they get out.
In short, it's just like organized crime, only it's recognized as a religion. No wonder the imams are working the prisons to such benefit for their cause. This is a rat hole that needs to be stopped up.
Posted by: Chatillon at March 10, 2006 12:36 PM
islam Has more in common with ringworm than a crime ring.
Posted by: Havoc at March 10, 2006 12:45 PM
jsla -
Hmmmm ... Yes. And, in the mean time, deport all of them.
Posted by: Havoc at March 10, 2006 12:57 PM
Yep Yep - Yep Yep Yep!
Terrorist the extremists - follow them with a tape recorder.
Your secret is safe with me!
Posted by: Pass It On at March 10, 2006 2:21 PM
Sorry
Terrorize the extremists - follow them with a tape recorder!
Posted by: Pass It On
at March 10, 2006 2:34 PM
Asylum Inmate; My opinion, unfavorably. I know there are good muslims out there, but again, unfavorably.
Posted by: mustang65 at March 10, 2006 2:59 PM
In his ideology the views he expressed aren't extremist. He's just being a good little Imam preaching the Koran and vilifying the infidels.
posted by ken
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
at March 10, 2006 3:01 PM
"has been overseeing all clergy members at the agency since 2004"
Hello? Time to wake up. And in NYC too boot.
Posted by: Charles Bogle at March 10, 2006 3:36 PM
Send him to Iraq and hang him.
Posted by: tiredofterror at March 10, 2006 4:13 PM
Martel360 said
What possible "context" could change the meaning of the gentle Imam's utterances ???
Reminds me of the O.J. Simpson trial, where O.J. was heard by a prison guard shouting "I did it! I killed my wife!" while Rosie Grier was visiting him in prison. The Dream Team explained to the judge that the guard didn't hear the words that O.J. whispered just before that, that put it in context: "I can't believe they think...."
I still get a kick out of that one. Thanks, Johnny Cochran, you were a credit to your profession.
Posted by: special_guest at March 10, 2006 5:47 PM
"and his comments were taken out of context" I'm about 5 foot 5, 118 pounds and a proportional ass. Oh wait, my ass might be taken out of context.
Posted by: mustang65 at March 10, 2006 8:27 PM
As far as I am concerned we would be much better off putting the Seventh Day Adventists, or the Mormons, in control of the jails, and I am a Lutheran.
Posted by: bobalharb at March 10, 2006 10:25 PM
Well said, jsla.
Posted by: texan at March 10, 2006 10:36 PM
OF COURSE his remarks were taken out of context: The context in which we infidels exist only to be robbed, raped, and slaughtered.
Too many Muslims are morally indistinguishable from Klansmen...and should be treated as such.
Posted by: pst314 at March 11, 2006 9:38 AM
"Too many Muslims are morally indistinguishable from Klansmen...and should be treated as such."
We tried dressing one like a Klansman in Abu Ghraib, and the world howled. Terrorists are people too!
Posted by: jsla at March 11, 2006 12:04 PM
(thanks, Tex)
Posted by: jsla at March 11, 2006 12:04 PM
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