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March 13, 2006

Krekar claims Islam will win

And it will, unless we wake up to all the many ways in which it is fighting. From Aftenposten, with thanks to Mackie:

Norway's most controversial refugee, Mullah Krekar, told an Oslo newspaper on Monday that there's a war going on between "the West" and Islam. He said he's sure that Islam will win, and he also had praise for suspected terrorist leader Osama bin Laden.

"We're the ones who will change you," Krekar told Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet in his first interview since an uproar broke out over cartoons deemed offensive to Muslims.

"Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes," Krekar said. "Every western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries are producing 3.5 children.

"By 2050, 30 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim."

He claimed that "our way of thinking... will prove more powerful than yours." He loosely defined "western thinking" as formed by the values held by leaders of western or non-islamic nations. Its "materialism, egoism and wildness" has altered Christianity, he claimed.

Krekar, who's been supported by the Norwegian government since arriving as a refugee from northern Iraq in the early 1990s, now faces deportation after violating the terms of his refugee status and being deemed a threat to national security.

Bin Laden 'a good man'

Krekar told Dagbladet that he favours Islamic rule where political and religious leaders are one and the same. One such leader he respects, he said, is Osama bin Laden.

"Osama bin Laden is a good person," Krekar said. He claimed Osama bin Laden is considered a terrorist simply because he lacks his own state.

Maybe he can move to Oslo soon.

Posted by Robert at March 13, 2006 9:14 AM
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"We're the ones who will change you," Krekar told Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet...

"Krekar, who's been supported by the Norwegian government"

One thing is for sure, we (the "Western World") aren't going to win by supporting people like this.

IMHO we need to start enforcing sedition and treason laws.

Posted by: Mr Ape Pig [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 9:35 AM

Mullah Krekar,,,,thanks for the insight.

Now brave Norwegians. Pick this turd up fly him south free of charge and drop him somewhere over the Sahara into one of his lovely Islamic lands.

Posted by: Turbinehead [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 9:37 AM

Boycott Norway?

I would boycott the Muslim world, but how? With the exception of oil, they don't produce anything. Oil production excluded, the GNP of the whole of North Africa and of the Middle East (Israel excluded) equals HALF the GNP of Finland.

So maybe I will stop buying Norwegian products. Bye bye Norwegian cod.

If that man does not support terrorism, than who does?

Posted by: cruzado [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 9:37 AM

"Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes,"

- if a non-Muslim had said that, he'd be blamed for racism and "Islamophobia", of course.

Posted by: rahel [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 9:37 AM

You mean this Islamofeces is still in Norway even after this article broke!?

Posted by: Ironman Hondo [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 9:38 AM

The Vatican has disconcerted Italian politicians - and some of the Roman Catholic church's most senior prelates - by endorsing a proposal by radical Muslims for a weekly "Islamic hour" in schools with a strong Muslim presence.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0%2C%2C1728714%2C00.html

My dear Ricky, you overestimate the influence of the Gestapo. I don't interfere with them and they don't interfere with me. In Casablanca I am master of my fate. I am captain of my --


He stops short as his AIDE enters.


AIDE

--Major Stasser is here, sir.

Renault starts to leave.

RICK

Yeah, you were saying?

RENAULT
(hurriedly)
Excuse me.


So much can be learned from art. This time, the Gestapo carries the Koran, but instead of being in Free French Morroco -- the are inside the Vatican

Posted by: witness [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 9:53 AM

Krekar said. "Every western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries are producing 3.5 children.

"By 2050, 30 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim."

Straight from the horses mouth. Do you think anyone in Europe is listening? Wake up Europe before they turn it into the festering sore that Islam is.

Posted by: Caratacus [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 10:03 AM

No allegiance,no assimilation,and no embracing of the western worlds freedoms, equals no respect for the nation that has allowed him to live there.

For him like so many other Muslims, the ultimate goal is Islam, the Prophet its model, the Quran its Constitution and a dream of a caliphate to rule the world.

He is right about Muslims spreading like mosquitoes, however instead of spreading malaria, they are trying to spread sharia.

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 10:03 AM

"He claimed Osama bin Laden is considered a terrorist simply because he lacks his own state."

Presumably this means that if there was a caliphate and bin laden were caliph, his jihad could be openly offensive and wouldn't need to hide behind 'defensive' pretexts. As caliph, he would have a duty to wage offensive jihad once a year - if my memory of islamic jurisprudence serves me right.

Posted by: Silvester [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 10:12 AM

Breeding like mosquitos?

Now all we need is a giant bug lamp; put a golden dome on the top and tell the muslims its where Mohammed once took a bath.

ZAP!

Posted by: Dead Infidel Walking [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 10:26 AM

The more they need such pathetic cheerleaders for the creaking Caliphate, the more certain I get of their own sense of an impending disintegration into world-wide schismic infighting.

The sooner they go at each other's throats... for the long-overdue reformation of Islam's 'sacred terrorism'... the safer the rest of us will be.

As we gain time to arm ourselves, in every sense.

Let a thousand mullahs, imams, ayatollahs and muezzins compete!

Their chaos will be our oasis.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 11:01 AM

"our way of thinking... will prove more powerful than yours."

I want proof of that!

"... supported by the Norwegian government"

Yep, he's right!


"By 2050, 30 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim."

Good thing is: I won't be there to see it.

Posted by: Kim Hartveld [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 11:05 AM

What has happened to the brave Norwegians who resisted the Nazis. This infestation is far more serious than that of fascism.

Posted by: DesertDawgN29 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 11:13 AM

Evict this rat bastard and all his family even if born in Norway. Why would Norway suck up to Islam when it has plenty of oil? There is no excuse for this bullshit. This welfare bum is daring them to expel him

Posted by: dennisw [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 11:14 AM

The comments seem to be directed at Krekar, and not at the general problem. He is only telling the truth. How does he dare to do so? He dares because he has been given no reason to think that Norwegians or others in the Western world have given, dare to give any thought, as to how they might prevent this prediction from coming true.

He's right. No one in brief authority has yet spoken correctly about the nature of Islam, about the immutable texts, about what is in those texts, about how Muslims have behaved, in time and space, whenever they have possessed the wherewithal -- whether military or other kinds of power -- to deal with non-Muslims as they are taught to deal with them.

The task is there. The task is largely a pedagogic one, and then an emotional-intellectual one. First, the real and not the false contents of Islam must be taught, in forms accessible to wide audiences. Then, those audiences must have spelled out for them what it is they have been given, as a civilizational legacy, so that even if they are not particularly impressed with the present-day world, with all that they see about them, they must be kept constantly in mind of others, of Shakespeare and Pushkin, Spinoza and Hume, of Jefferson and Lincoln, of Montaigne and Chateaubriand and Proust and Georges Perec, who would not for one minute have been produced by the world of Islam, and who are part of a civilization for which nothing more complicated than a feeling of gratitude should elicit a willingness to undertake the most minimum measures of self-defense -- such as a complete halt, and then a deliberate reversal of, the demographic trends that favor Islam, until its presence is reduced to manageable proportions. There are a thousand ways, little and big, to achieve this. But it all rests on an ability to make unwary or terminally innocent (like some of those silly and sinister "Christiian Workers" being held hostage, or murdered, in Iraq) Infidels wary, and less a menace, in their parroting of irrelevant, baseless, and even dangerous pieties ("All people want the same thing" etcetera).

Pedagogy. The real and not the false thing.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 11:29 AM

"...number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes"

"our way of thinking... will prove more powerful than yours."

Wrong again O'Simpleton. The west has evolved enough to now procreate mainly for the sake of love while by your own admission your civilization breeds for breedings sake. It is quality not quantity the will rule the day.

Posted by: William The Crusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 11:34 AM

Krekar said, "Osama is considered a terrorist simply because he lacks his own state"

Really - SIMPLY because he lacks his own state - that's why he's a terrorist. This guy's delusional!!

Osama is a terrorist because he "utilizes the systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve political objectives". And believe me, there's nothing "simple" about that!!!!

Can't believe someone would use "simple" and "terrorist" in the same sentence!

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 11:50 AM

"Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes," Krekar said. "Every western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries are producing 3.5 children. "

While it is true that Islam is expanding because of the birth rates, Mullah Kreker either does not know or denies it outright, but the truth is that the Christian faith is growing even faster. While the west has seen a decline in the Christian faith; the global south is seeing massive growth of Christianity, not only in the Catholic and mainline Christian churches but also in the Bible-based churches as well. The area to watch is Africa which has seen explosive growth. Expect more of the African, Asian, and Latin American countries to send missioniaries to both Europe and North America in the years ahead. As the west had sent Christian missionaries over a century ago to bring the Christian faith to the global south, so expect these nations in the global south to send missionaries to the west in the years ahead.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 12:01 PM

Speed-Breeding, violence, terror, lies, deception and arrogance are all extremely short-sighted strategies, that might cause a lot of short term problems for Infidels, but which are the equivalent to bringing a knife to a gunfight, where Global Conquest is concerned.

To accomplish anything as far reaching as that, a culture would have to do really serious stuff, like build, create, imagine beyond the confines of its own cultural boundaries, and work cooperatively with with those 'other' cultures, which is has designs on incorporating into its own scheme of things.

A large helping of intellectual flexibility would be necessary as well.

Islam is a stupid schoolyard bully, with the same lame bag of tricks and animal cunning that every schoolyard bully the world has ever seen has been equipped with... no more.

Time favors the Infidels, as it always has in the past. It took centuries in the past for the Infidels to figure out what the 'real deal' with Islam was, and deal with it properly.

This time, with the Internet, the learning curve is taking just a few years.

Islam is dead already, right out of the gate this time, and the 'bin Ladens' in the present movement, actually knew it right out of the gate, which is what this whole thing is really all about... Islam going the way of the Jim Jones Cult, and the Branch Davivians... 'suicide by cop'.

There is no Islam any more. The proper name is Waslam, and Muslims should be called Waslims... Meat with Feet, following an already dead belief system into the dust.

That which cannot adapt to change, perishes.

Posted by: cheese_burger [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 12:10 PM

Krekar claimed that "our way of thinking... will prove more powerful than yours." ---Muslims never cease to amaze me with their belligerent and cave-man mentality, yet our politicians continue to pander to them and lead us all down the path of civil chaos.

Posted by: stranger [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 12:21 PM

As far as the islamic invasion of the west goes,i cannot look at it as a matter of good/bad,fair/unfair,etc..
The muslim invaders are only doing what they have been programmed to do since they were born,by way of indoctrination and brain washing.
If a human organism is being invaded by a parasit,bacteria,virus,etc,we cannot blame the parasite,for it is only doing whatever it needs to do in orther to survive and to thrive.
The only one that can do something about it is the human host,to either prevent the infection,or to treat it appropriately,and if it fails to do so,for whatever reason,it will eventually perish.
I do not blame the muslims for trying to take over the west,i only blame the west for its utter shameless,cowardly surrender.

Posted by: adela [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 1:17 PM

Cheese_Burger sez:"...Islam going the way of the Jim Jones Cult, and the Branch Davivians... 'suicide by cop'..."

There is little resemlance between Islam and Jones or Koresh. Islam will not go the way they did. There was no 'suicide' by Cop' for the Davidians and there wont be suicide by cop for Islam.

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 1:42 PM

Hugh is right, why kill (or deport) the messenger for delivering a true message?

Instead, we need to stop and listen to what Krekar is saying, really listen. Not repackage and sugarcoat what he is saying, but just listen verbatim and let the reality sink in. Then, deport the messenger and all his fellow jihadists for being violent subversives, by their own description. They have no place in a free society; their only goal is to remove the freedoms in our society and put it under the yoke of sharia law. Get them out, now.

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 1:51 PM

muslims ... Alway's jokin' around.

Posted by: Havoc [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 2:01 PM

Krekar said. "Every western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries are producing 3.5 children.
Posted by Robert at March 13, 2006 09:14 AM


I guess I was in the process of typing up a request (in a DW thread) for any other posters who had quotes from Islamic clerics, scholars, etc., showing an explicit awareness and intent in regards to the demographic jihad...and here happened to be posted a good one only minutes earlier than my request.

Thanks Robert. I'll add this one to my file. Any other posters with similar quotes, please do post them if you get the chance.

Re: that 3.5 births per Muslim female... I've read the figure elsewhere to be 4.5 per female (maybe some sources are citing the median while others are citing the mean)

Posted by: Archimedes [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 2:46 PM

BigCatGirl Islam is growing fast in Africa, South America, Latin America and Asia. Chine have more Moslim than Christian in it. It was the Christian West that rape China in the 19th century and 1/2 of the 20th Century. Chairman Mao was friendly to the Moslim of the world and we allow the Moslim religion to start to replace the native Chinese religion which lead to the rape of China by the Christian West. Mao crack down very hard on the Christian in China as enemry of the Chinese people the Christianize Chinese support the Christian West in the Rape of China.

Posted by: DefenderofIslam [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 2:53 PM

Krekar likes to inflate things like all islamofacists.. the one thing is true about producing children, as they serve them up to their allah babba. sucide bombers in the making, need to produce for their quest. where we in the west value our children, they just need to produce more for the big bang! how they blow up fast!

Posted by: Lulu [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 2:54 PM

so expect these nations in the global south to send missionaries to the west in the years ahead.

Big cat girl, that is already happening. And you are right about the growth of Christianity in Africa. I see DefenderofIslam denys this.
Well he would wouldn't he?

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 3:24 PM

Well, at least he is honest about the cause behind Islam's status as "the fastest-growing 'religion' in the world" - overbreeding. And he also recognizes that it's essentially parasitic. Or do mosquitoes provide some untold benefit to other life forms that I've overlooked?

Personally I might have chosen a different animal analogy, perhaps from the order Rodentia, but Krekar's forthrightness is refreshing.

If they tell us over and over again what their plans are and how they expect to accomplish them, and we ignore or whitewash the plain truth, do we not deserve to fail?

Posted by: Cato the Elder [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 3:54 PM
didnt we save china from japan in WW2.how did we rape china?

patriot2,

I don't know that this really worth pursuing. It's the usual sliver of truth in a bed of nonsense that you would expect from someone who is incapable of making honest and detailed research into anything. Whatever is gestured towards plays the role it has been assigned in the emotional economy of the usual suspect. That is what this is about.

If you want to read up on the Boxer Uprising try Esherick:

Origins of the Boxer Uprising

It wasn't, of course, "the Christian West" that took advantage of China but the industrialized powers, including (Shintoist) Japan. Neither, of course, is or was there any such thing as "the native Chinese religion" but a complex mixture of Taoism, Buddhism, Confucianism, and folk religion. Furthermore, Mao was not around at this time, and would have had about as much regard for Islam as for the plague.

None of the powers behaved well. However, it was the Japanese in the end who"raped" China:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/223038.stm

Today's Chinese planners will, I am sure, be very much aware of the threat of Islam. I am also sure they will not be squeamish about doing what they think necessary to protect their people and their ancient and admirable culture either.

Posted by: Yojimbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 4:20 PM

Defender: When will you blow up?

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 4:27 PM

Granny,

Yes, the Christian faith in the global south is growing by leaps and bounds. The good news of the Gospel is winning people in Africa, Asia, and Latin America, not the Koran. Even in the oppresive conditions of China, the Gospel is spreading big time over there and there are new Christians in the country with the largest population in the world. Do not be suprised that efforts to bring greater political freedom in China will happen because of the growth of the Christian faith.

It does not suprise me that Defender of Islam denies all of this. The facts is just too suprising.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 4:29 PM

Archimedes:
Check out the 5th article,under the title "Jihad du jour",it is called "Islamic Australia:Near certainty".
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

Posted by: adela [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 4:31 PM
"Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes," Krekar said. "Every western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries are producing 3.5 children.

Can anything make a Muslim prouder to be one than knowing they're part of this "development"? Pray tell, what about all those supposed inventions Islam takes credit for? Did the ummah's intellectual, creative tank run so dry to the point that making more babies than non-Muslims is something they actually brag about today? Oy, how embarassing.

If the Muslim babies Krekar boasts about end up on the dole like him, pretty soon there won't be any taxpayers left to fill the welfare coffers....and Norway rots into another Somalia.

Posted by: yadayada [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 4:33 PM

Defender of Islam,

It was Japan that was responsible for the rape of China, not the West.

Also more people of the global south convert to the Christian faith because of the hope that can be found in the good news of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Even under the oppression of the Chinese government, the Gospel has spread in China, bringing in new Christians daily.

The global south is in the middle of a Christian boom.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 4:43 PM

Golly look another fanatic whipping up hate in the name of islam, pretty fricken sad if you ask me. Where are the moderates???? step up and defend your peaceful religion or you are no better than the fanatics.

Posted by: Denver [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 5:00 PM

Unfortunately, Mullah Krekar might well be right. We have a highly destructive media which aids and abets the Islamic enemies of Western civilization, by acting as its unofficial mouthpiece. Tonight, there was a program about our troops in Iraq hosted by Trevor McDonald on ITV. If the likes of Zarqawi, Zawahiri and Bin Laden had been watching that program, they would be convinced that Britain is a weak nation with no resolve to fight, and one of the effects of that program might be to put our troops in greater danger, through the belief that if the terrorists inflict more casualties, they might force a pullout from Iraq. Had television been widely available in 1940, does anyone think that Winston Churchill would have allowed a program like that to be put out, lest it damaged morale amongst the Armed Forces and civilians alike?

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 5:00 PM

patriot2 said

didnt we save china from japan in WW2.how did we rape china?

Yawn. Yet another poster with a knock-off of another's name. I doubt that patriot would appreciate your attempt to misrepresent his/her beliefs. I know that we'll soon see a special_guest2 or aspecial_guest or special__guest, who talks about how wonderful Islam is and how oppressive the West has been towards the Religion of Peace. But these silly games don't really mean anything; the jig is up, the game is over, we're onto you. Islam is a violent religion based on a violent book written by a violent man, and lies and trickery are insufficient to hide that fact anymore.

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 5:08 PM

defenderofislam will be one of those appologist moutpieces and get someone else's muslim's child to blow up...
at least the Crusaders, infidels, Celtic warrior faught brave, just read Ceasar's memoirs of the fierceness of the Gauls,Celtics, and Germans. They did not hide behind women's skirts like Hammas, the most cowardly men in history!

Posted by: Lulu [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 5:34 PM

I think it’s funny that Muslims claim they identify with Christians, but yet Christians don't identify with Muslims. The only way to save this planet is to donate to missionary programs regardless of the religion, as long as it’s not Islamic missionary programs. Any other world religion shows more truth then Islam. Because once a person finds a way to justify violence (Islam) their eyes weld shut.

Posted by: billybob [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 5:55 PM

patriot2 said

but i appreciate you stickin up for me,even though we never met

Sorry, I apologize if you thought I was stickin' up for you. I must not have made my point clearly. It happens, my mistake.

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 5:55 PM

"Krekar claims Islam will win", and then from the first bolded paragraph, again: "He said he's sure that Islam will win."

Too bad the article didn't provide what he said in exact quotes when he presumably used the term "win". I'll have to take their word that he did use that term.

I've seen that mindset from Muslim posters here before - this notion of "winning" and "losing", which is a very odd notion for what is supposed to be a "religion" or at least a system of spiritual edification. I could see Buddhists claiming that more and more people are being called to the spiritual path or Christians getting excited that more and more people are hearing the Good News of the Gospel but... "winning"?!

Of course it wouldn't be an odd turn of phrase if what you're actually about is not spiritual growth but fighting a war in which there is to be an ultimate winner and an ultimate loser, in which case you would focus intently on stuff like logistics - how many foot soldiers you have in the field and so forth.

Which is, of course, exactly what he does when he cites his demographics that point to the inevitability of Islam "winning".

It's actually kind of ironic that he refers to the superiority of islamic modes of thinking to western modes but then when it comes down to the question of how Islam is actually to prevail in the end he doesn't make an intellectual or spiritual case at all to back up that claim but instead cites something that has nothing whatsoever to do with "modes of thinking" but rather merely "modes of breeding".

I guess as Hugh repeatedly says, Islam is to dominate and not be dominated. I could add, Islam is to "win" at all cost. Islam is all about winning and losing and really has nothing to do with spirituality at all. It simply cannot grasp a win-win proposition. It only understands a win-lose proposition. Of course regular readers here already know that. But it is a continual source of fascination to see Islam's ultimate poverty as a spiritual path reflected over and over and over again in the public pronouncements of both it's most revered leaders all the way down to it's most humble followers. Truly, it never ceases to amaze me.

Posted by: Caroline [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 6:35 PM

adela, thanks!

Posted by: Archimedes [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 6:47 PM

'Breeding like mosquitos...?'

Well, me likes the elusive 'honest' mussulman, for normally they lie even when they pray.

Now we got it from the horses mouth!

'Everything you do and say can and will be held against you in a court of law...' Why don't we?

And now we need pest control or mozzie spray...NO?

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 7:02 PM

Cato the Elder -

Strangely, there is a medical connection between the mosquito, malaria and sickle cell anaemia. It seems that there is some evidence to support the contention that areas with a high incidence of mosquito born malaria have a much lower than one would expect incidence of sickle cell anaemia. Something in the mosquito/malarial parasite/animal-or-human mechanisms appears to confer some resistance to the development of this type of anaemia, which is primarily a curse of certain black-skinned races.

Off topic, I know, but isn't it a wonderful example of this planet's weirdness - and probably something that mohammedan science could never have discovered given their attitude to the black races on our world.

Posted by: Certiorari [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 7:11 PM

patriot2, if you really are the original patriot (and why can't you use the login anymore?), I'd "stick up" for you.

If you're a Muslim pretending to be the original patriot, and are trying to suggest that the infidel Great Satan committed atrocities in WWII, I'd suggest you go pound sand.

Either way, as others pointed out, "the West" didn't commit the Rape of Nanjing atrocity in China, it was the Japanese. "the West" was fighting the Japanese at the time, FYI.

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 7:18 PM

And now we need pest control or mozzie spray...NO?
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at March 13, 2006 07:02 PM
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Yes.

Posted by: Texican [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 7:36 PM

The sooner they go at each other's throats... for the long-overdue reformation of Islam's 'sacred terrorism'... the safer the rest of us will be.
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As we gain time to arm ourselves, in every sense.
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Let a thousand mullahs, imams, ayatollahs and muezzins compete!
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Their chaos will be our oasis.
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Posted by: profitsbeard at March 13, 2006 11:01 AM
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Pull our troops back into safe and secure positions in Iraq and the ME, protect the Kurds and let the Sunnis and Shiites battle it out and hope that it spreads across Islam. If you are really intelligent and brave, launch multiple missiles at Iran from the waring areas in Iraq and blame it on the Sunnis. Fair is fair.

When you have the crazies fighting the crazies, everyone wins.

It will be good for Islam and the world.

This is starting to make more and more sense with each passsing day. Muslims killing Muslims. Why should we be losing soldiers when we could allow the Sunnis and the Shiites to fight it out and give them some incentives to crush each other such as the winner gets Iraq.

This will work, just run it up the flag pole.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost.

Posted by: Texican [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 7:55 PM

"expanding like mosquitoes" to quote Norway's Mullah Krekar.

Brilliant - we now have a way of telling this truth without being labelled racist! Thanks Mullah.

Posted by: Lili [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 8:19 PM

Lili: ""expanding like mosquitoes" to quote Norway's Mullah Krekar. Brilliant - we now have a way of telling this truth without being labelled racist!"

It's an interesting point you're making. Whenever someone refers to Muslims as "cockroaches", I cringe. Because it reminds me of what the Hutu's in Rwanda called the Tutsi's right before they began exterminating them.

But here we have a bizarre case of a Muslim religious figure himself referring to what comparable Christian religious figures refer to as their "flock", instead as "mosquitos". How bizzare is that? But as readily as Muslims have proved their capacity to "exterminate" their fellow man, I suppose it doesn't surprise me all that much. Right now, the burden is surely more on Muslims themselves than on infidels, to prove that they value human life. We already know that they don't value "infidel" life. But do they really even value Muslim life? The current historical record (Iraq and the Sudan come readily to mind), in combination with this Mullah's reference to his own religious compatriots as "mosquitos", would suggest not.

Posted by: Caroline [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 8:42 PM

"our way of thinking... will prove more powerful than yours."

Really? I thought that their "way of thinking" was to simply do whatever they were told to do, regardless of the consequences. I thought that their "way of thinking" was to NOT think, because thinking is dangerous. Thinking can lead to individualism, and that ain't good when you want mob action and mob motivation.

Posted by: yohannbiimu [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 9:02 PM

The European leaders are traitors to there people they are so busy kissing arse trying to keep the peace they are dooming there own countries.

The muslims in the end if the birth rates stay the same wont even have to use violence to take over western countries because they will become the majority and be able to win a free fair democratic election.

Western leaders should be providing financial incentives for people to have more children not bring in Muslims who don,t believe in the ideals of a free sociaty which they demonstrated with nthe cartoon affair.

i see civil war in the next 50 years in europe because the western leaders are to weak to do anything.

Posted by: stevenz [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 9:11 PM

i see civil war in the next 50 years in europe because the western leaders are to weak to do anything
i would think in the U.S.A too
Posted by: patriot2 at March 13, 2006 09:16 PM
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It will happen sooner than 50 years.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost.

Posted by: Texican [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 10:09 PM

Civil war? I'm afraid that the Muslims and liberal apologists will out number us “free thinkers”.

Posted by: billybob [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 10:57 PM

Krekar is wrong. Muslim birthrates are actually shrinking big time: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-1_16_06_MS.html

Posted by: The Solidsurfer, Inc. The Solidsufer, Inc. [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 11:22 PM

We have to reduce our dependence on oil. This is the central issue. To this end, we can, in our own small ways, contribute in whatever manner to help our country. Small drops make a big ocean. Remember that this is a unique opportunity presented to us by these medieval people.

1. Use less electricity. Make it a habit to switch off lights, fans, air conditioners etc. when not needed.
2. Use cycles or even go by walk and avoid using automobile as much as you can.
3. Make carpooling a habit. Go by public transport wherever possible.
4. Reduce your budget for the fuel by 20% and increase it as much as you can later on.
5. Use alternative renewable energy resources such as solar, biogas etc., which are enviro-friendly.
6. People connected with the industry can use energy conservation measures to reduce energy consumption.

These are only for starters. Other people posting on this site can throw up innovative ideas in this direction, so that this will really become a mass movement.

If we follow some of these, we can certainly see concrete results. We have to do it together with a religious zeal. (pun intended!)

Posted by: cincinnatikid [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 13, 2006 11:55 PM

For Archimedes

Muslims Criticize Al Qaeda For Waking Up Westerners To Muslim Immigration

Saudi preacher Sheikh Said al-Qahtani said on the Iqraa TV satellite channel, ‘We did not occupy the US, with eight million Muslims, using bombings. Had we been patient and let time take its course, instead of the eight million there could have been 80 million [Muslims], and 50 years later perhaps the US would have become Muslim.’
"But those same secular Westerners are not reproducing enough to replace their numbers while at the same time the Muslims are reproducing much more rapidly. Demography becomes destiny."

http://www.parapundit.com/archives/002258.html

Posted by: SandiM [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2006 12:26 AM

Muslim breeding like rats to out number the Europeans in Europe is a good tactical thinking by the Islamic maniacs. IN Democracy the power lies in Numbers and when most European nations are now democratic it is not suprising that they are now asking Muslim women to flush out future jihadis at the fastest rate possible. If they get more No. they will have the power to send more of them to the European parliament. ....And that what they are trying to do. Out breed the Europeans and Islam will prevail. I think the liberal western democratic values now have become biggest hurdel in finnishing off this MIDDLE AGE barbaric cult of Islam. As defined by Dr. Wafa Sultan a Syrian living in U. S. Who in a debate on Al-Jazerra network defined the war between West and Islam as that of Middle Age barbarism and 21st Century Thinking.

Posted by: helegu max [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2006 1:05 AM

ISLAM will not win if more Middle Eastern Nationals would be more vocal like this lady in the video.....

http://www.wimp.com/opinion/

Posted by: CaptAmerica [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2006 1:45 AM

The use of mosquitoes is about right, they do live on others blood.

And how can a woman have only half a kid?

Posted by: Islofob IS-1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2006 1:58 AM

The Islamists have worked out long ago a clear strategy for spreading their religion. The Western world is slow to realize this. There are several ways to do it and which one to use where depends on the circumstances prevailing.

The main components of their strategy are:

1. Verbal assault (propaganda war)
2. Producing children in large numbers
3. Kidnapping, raping and forcibly converting girls and killing menfolk
4. terroristic violence to subjugate countries with infidels in majority

The first two are being implemented in the Western world now.
The third one is currently used in countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh, where non-Muslims are in a minority and are fast shrinking in numbers.
The last one is the latest technique.

All the above methods have been prescribed by their holy book Koran. In fact, their Guru the Prophet Mohammed has shown all these technoques to his followers through his deeds.

Posted by: cincinnatikid [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2006 2:03 AM

Again krekar, if I was wearin boots, I'd be shakin in um.

Posted by: mustang65 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2006 3:10 AM

Cato the Elder, "And he also recognizes it's essentially parasidic" does he and others like him, not understand that the earth will not expand? (and no, I'm not a left wing lunatic.)

Posted by: mustang65 [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2006 4:12 AM

SandiM, thank you!

Posted by: Archimedes [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 14, 2006 11:48 AM

I don´t know why so many posters here lambast the guy.
He is only telling the truth, and he should be given credit for that. No Taquiva here -- he lays it out.

Islam is at war, and Europe is losing. The demographic conquest continues, all muslim offspring is by definition muslim, and Europe is paralyzed by its materialistic, egotistic hedonism. It is all true. Very bad, but true.

What do you people want -- shoot the messenger?

Posted by: Derukugi [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 16, 2006 11:02 AM


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