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I am scheduled for a brief debate with Ahmed Younis of the Muslim Public Affairs Council this afternoon on Fox's Neil Cavuto show. The topic will be the poll finding the more Americans think Islam is violent than they did in 2001.
Posted by Robert at March 13, 2006 3:01 PM
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Mr. Spencer,
I don't have cable. I'm not sure if Mr. Cavuto's program provides transcripts. Any chance we might get a full report from you posted here at JW? I'd like to know if Mr. Younis adpots the Esposito/Cole/Zoby excuse: The rise in negative views toward Muslims is the fault of political leaders, MSM, and "certain special interest groups".
Posted by: omvi
at March 13, 2006 3:24 PM
I second that if someone get a transcript or host the interview somewhere that would be great.
at March 13, 2006 3:55 PM
How do you view Islam? * 89345 responses
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11741730/#survey
Favorably 18%
Unfavorably 69%
I'm not sure 12%
at March 13, 2006 4:12 PM
Negative perception of islam are due to:
Muslim attack on London subway.
Muslim attack on Madrid subway.
Muslim murder of Theo Van Gogh in Amsterdam.
Muslim riots in France,burning of over 10,000 cars and ohter property damage.
Muslim beheadings of " infidel" hostages.
Muslim genocide in Sudan.
Muslim attack on 9/11.
Muslim riots in Australia.
Muslim rapes in Sweden and Norway.
Muslim massacre of school children in Beslan.
Muslim murders in Mindanao/Phillippines.
Muslim murders in Kashmir/India.
Muslim murders in Israel.
Muslim attacks on embassies throughout the world in response to the danish cartoons.
These are not media spins,these are facts which speak for themselves.
Considering all of the above,i am surprised that the percentage of americans that view islam in a negative way is below 99%!!!
The low % only means that the american people is not yet educated about the dangers of the killing cult called "islam".
at March 13, 2006 4:20 PM
The increased number of people who think Islam is a violent, is rather a sign of how patient americans and others have been with muslims. They, the muslims, are an amazingly selfish, boastful, threatening,
religion, who've rioted and killed over rather benign cartoons, and frankly have failed every test of believability these last years.
This, and the fact that on every border of every other religion, they are in strife and war.
Posted by: mgoldberg
at March 13, 2006 4:23 PM
adela - don't forget Bali!
Posted by: islamophobic pride
at March 13, 2006 4:34 PM
Pride:
Bali too,but the attacks were so many,that we could actually classifie them as "countless".
They keep count of muslim attacks throughout the world after 9/11,at
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
I just watched the Robert Spencer interview on the Cavuto show on Fox.
Robert was very succint,to the point and he did not allow his muslim counterpart to intimidate him or to entangtle him in his taqyia web.
Again,i am surprised at the low % of americans that have a negative view of islam,especially after 9/11,and the countless of islamic attacks allover the world.
And the % of the people who have voted "undecided" or "don`t know"...??!!..if they don`t know,why the hell did they take the poll???
at March 13, 2006 4:44 PM
Adela,
The key your list is that the attacks were perpetrated in the name of Islam, and there is specific textual support for each and every one. Anything less, and we're set up for the old "but look at all these other horrible things that did"!?
It is important to state things in such a manner as to preclude the tu quoque cop-out. There is a good reason for this other than to clarify the point for people who are "on the fence" regarding Islam, who come from a multicultural-positive background, which of course works rather well with Islam is not involved in the mix. The best reason it is can force Muslims themselves to doubt.
At the very root, that is what has to happen. It is great to convince non-Muslims of the doctrinal reasons for Islam's malevolence. To introduce doubt into a Muslim's mind about their faith is the greatest thing we can do for humanity. I think the "give a man a fish / teach a man to fish" this is an apt analogy.
Quijybo
at March 13, 2006 5:06 PM
Adela, l think the qustion was misleading, l think it started with are do you discrimate Islam.. and of course most people dont want be labeled a discriminator... can someone find the exact question asked on the poll.. l know from Rush's shows, some polls by the media are so misleading, that they make the question to allow the answer they do want. and also they do not report the whole poll questions, if they do not like the answers.
Posted by: Lulu
at March 13, 2006 5:11 PM
Mr. Spencer
I have been visiting your site for a while now and I always look forward to seeing you on TV or hearing you on the radio. I just saw you on Faux news and I must say that Niel Cabuto was extremely aggravating (even for him) and typical of the MSM’s attitude towards reason. Thankfully Cabuto did manage to let you get in a few words.
I think your mantra of “where are the moderate muslims” rings true, and is not easily answered by any of your detractors. Keep up the Great work and thank you for Jihad Watch.
at March 13, 2006 5:12 PM
Even though he kept getting cut off Mr Spencer got his points across. Good Job.
Posted by: Ronin
at March 13, 2006 5:54 PM
Ahmed Younis has some script memorized and he repeats it every chance he gets
its getting very stale
Posted by: ploome
at March 13, 2006 6:49 PM
Ahmed Younis has some script memorized and he repeats it every chance he gets
its getting very stale
Posted by: ploome
at March 13, 2006 6:49 PM
I do not have the quote from the Koran in front of me, but is there not the idea propagated in it that Allah is not "bound" by anything, with regard to having a character, or the laws of nature that have been set in motion since creation? Is this idea not the very stumbling-block that caused Islamic stagnation in terms of its "progress" in science, art, and societal evolution?
If I am understanding this teaching regarding who Allah "is," then could not this teaching become the achilles heel that brings down the whole rotten edifice? I mean, if Allah is not "bound" by laws, regardless of who originated them, then by what holds him to provide the endless sexual pleasures that supposedly come to "martyrs" who blow themselves up "for him?"
If I understand this correctly, then everything that a Muslim holds as "true" can be utterly false, simply because it can be argued that NOTHING is true, because "truth" is something binding to Allah, and thus ALL TRUTH IS A LIE.
Posted by: yohannbiimu
at March 13, 2006 7:39 PM
It,s just great that people are slowly starting to wake up and see Islam for what it is,the left wing liberals will continue on there blind crusade but more and more people are seeing the truth.
The cartoon riots were the best thing that ever happened.
Posted by: stevenz
at March 13, 2006 9:00 PM
Robert, you did a great job. Yes, Neil should have let you finish your thoughts, and Younis sounded scripted.
Posted by: freewoman
at March 13, 2006 9:21 PM
Robert
I liked your appearance, but thought that you were given too little time - partly due to Mr Ahmad's rudeness in interrupting you before you were done. I don't know what does "Your World" gain by having such abbreviated segments. Not to mention that this supposedly business show has the first half hour almost completely dedicated to politics, and the only time business makes those headlines is when something major, like a merger, layoff, sentencing, etc takes place.
You deserve solo appearances, or at least debating appearances with those who can at least make a coherent case for the other side. Such as Manzoor Ijaz, Irshad Manji, Amir Taheri, et al.
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at March 13, 2006 9:58 PM
XM radio rebroadcasts Cavuto so I heard the audio only. The Muslim guy kept interupting and talking over Robert. Cavuto sounded agitated as he couldn't control the rude Muslim guy. The segment was very short and didn't allow enough time for good exchange.
Did an agitated Neil Cavuto pull the plug early?
Posted by: skyking77
at March 13, 2006 11:07 PM
Drat and blast.
If, like me, you missed it, keep checking Cavuto's page at FoxNews-- we should at least get a transcript out of it over the next day or so, if not a video clip:
http://www.foxnews.com/cavuto/
Posted by: Shinoliite
at March 13, 2006 11:34 PM
skyking77 said
The Muslim guy kept interupting and talking over Robert. Cavuto sounded agitated as he couldn't control the rude Muslim guy.
You mean, after listening to the show, you had an unfavorable opinion of the Muslim guy? MEDIA BIAS! MEDIA BIAS!
Posted by: special_guest
at March 14, 2006 12:57 AM
Yep, caught about half of it, was good to see Robert on the tube. The comments by Robert about OBL, and how anybody can make a "negitive statement" was a highlight. Not a quote here, but it was well stated.
One of the more heated moments on Neal's show for the month, or so it seamed.
It should air again as a repeat later on Tuesday morning.
Posted by: Islofob IS-1
at March 14, 2006 1:36 AM
This lady makes much more sense.....God I wish there's more of her !
Posted by: CaptAmerica
at March 14, 2006 1:48 AM
Robert
I watched the segment again just now again, when it reran at 10:31PM PST. Apart from Younis Ahmad having memorized his lines (which sounded like a recitation of a school-kid who has to rattle off the talking points of a pledge drive), his point that he had demonstrated against Osama on Cavuto's show (according to Mr Big Head) and O'Reilly's show (according to himself) implies that under the new standard
Practicing taqqiya is equivalent to demonstrating against Islamic terror
Under that illustrious new invention on Fox's "Business" show, 1.2b Muslims are sure demonstrating against ... what was it again?
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at March 14, 2006 2:10 AM
yohannbiimu,
"Allah is not "bound" by anything". Very true, and the key to understanding Islam as a military strategy in the guise of a religion: The hands of the faithful must not be bound by anything (morality etc) that may put them at a disadvantage in the fight.
Don't lie ... unless Allah wills it.
Don't murder ... unless Allah will it.
...
This is no religion, it is The Art of War.
Posted by: Brett_McS
at March 14, 2006 2:41 AM
I caught the re-run.
I suspect that Cavuto, like most journalists, is ignorant of Islam.
I wonder if guys like Cavuto, and other journalists, know that their Muslim guests' copies of the Qur'an read the same as Usama bin Laden's copy.
I sent Cavuto a polite email informing him that there is no modereate version of the Qur'an, and that his Muslim guests, while looking him in the eye, think of him as an infidel.
Posted by: PRCS
at March 14, 2006 2:47 AM
Dear Robert Spencer,
I did see you on Fox News yesterday!
[You also appear on the Fox news in the morning here in the UK/EU when all the US evening shows are repeated.]
I believe that we saw this same Muslim spokesman before - where he was claiming that all the more violent protesters around the world were - jobless - hence not the normal members of Islamic society.
Looking at him - I see the same thing that I have seen in other (moderate) Muslims - it is a denial or a refusal to accept that their religion could produce or generate these of acts of terror.
And you are absolutely right - the denial of the prevalent violent mindset within Islam and the refusal to stand up firmly against these acts of terror – and to speak out against them [such as we saw during the protests over the cartoons] – equates to an underlying acceptance of these terrorists actions by the whole Islamic community.
I think that the underlying problem is that Islamic people want it both ways. They want to hold violent views against Jews, infidels and females – and they want to proclaim that they are peaceful. And although they still proclaim peace – the violent mindset is now being acted out.
There is a good program - for any one who has Deutsche Welle TV
The show is called – In Focus
And today’s show is on a 16 year old suicide bomber in Israel – who decides to blow up a bus and just as he is about to flick the switch in his backpack - the bus driver jumps him, and stops an attack, which would have killed 53 people on their way to a youth festival.
The program then goes on to show the culture of violence which promotes suicide on Islamic TV and in the school books for very young children – it also shows how on Arab TV children as young as two are encouraged by their parents to play with real guns and other devices of terror to promote the Jihad. And how folk songs are sung – which says that one day 1000’s and even 1,000,000’s will take part in the suicide martyrdom
Though the show also brings home the real tragedy of Islam – this boy said that when he gets out of prison - 18 years later - then he wants to go to university and become an engineer - as he intended. These bombs were professionally made – and so there was no way the boy could have made them himself.
I think this is the reality of Islam today –
at March 14, 2006 6:36 AM
Mr Spencer-
I made it a point to stop work and watcth the segment with Cavuto and thought you did well in educating people, in raising more questions than answers. The questions upset the Moslem guest.
In general, what JW trying to do is about summed by the recent expressions of Waffa Sultan on the matter. Many people do think there is something wrong with a religion (especially demonstrated when its adherents are in the majority) that does not tolerate any other religion (Saudi Arabia, etc.) as equal to it, who think Islam is totalitarian. There is no question that following comment by Raja Sahib Mahmudabad is true, and that too many Moslems are in denial about it:
"When we speak of democracy in Islam it is not democracy in the government but in the cultural and social aspects of life. Islam is totalitarian -- there is no denying about it. It is the Koran that we should turn to. It is the dictatorship of the Koranic laws that we want -- and that we will have -- but not through non-violence and Gandhian truth." Raja Sahib Mahmudabad, chief lieutenant of Mohammed Ali Jinnah
Posted by: Frank
at March 14, 2006 8:19 AM
"Though the show also brings home the real tragedy of Islam – this boy said that when he gets out of prison - 18 years later - then he wants to go to university and become an engineer - as he
intended."
YES OF COURSE -- HE WANTS TO GET HIS ENGINEERING DEGREE!
Following in the footsteps of other Engineer Terrorists.
Nidal A. Ayyad, a 25-year-old chemical ENGINEER at Allied Signal in Morristown, New Jersey.
Ramzi Ahmed Yousef - studied ENGINEERING at Swansea University in Wales from 1986 - 1989
Yahya Ayyash, best known for his exploits on behalf of the Hamas movement - Nicknamed "THE ENGINEER."
Al-Arian - Belonged to the Institute for Electrical and Electronics ENGINEERS.
at March 14, 2006 12:45 PM
Mr. Spencer:
Although I thought you did well on the Cavuto show, I believe that a forum of that sort is a poor platform to expound on your views. You were not given enough time to finish a point and were consistently having to talk over the MPAC shill Ahmed Younis. A segment of a few minutes is not enough time for the ignorant (of the subject) to see how your argument is more coherent and concise than the packaged Islamic pap of Mr. Younis.
I hope to see you in a setting that not only allows you to completely explain your views, but to also directly counter in person an opponent such as Mr. Younis.
at March 14, 2006 1:45 PM


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