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March 28, 2006

Fitzgerald: She can't figure it out. But we can.

Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald examines the words of the sister of Tarheel jihadist Mohammed Taheri-azar:

"Please let us echo in your ears that my brother was and always has been a kind, gentle and pure soul,” she read from a statement. “His current actions and words are as much a source of shock and distress to us as they are to you.”
-- from this AP article, from the sister of the kind and gentle soul who plowed an SUV into a crowd of college students.

No doubt, for a Muslim, much of it true -- he is a "kind, gentle and pure soul" in many ways. But not toward Infidels. There the adjectives begin to jostle one another. The purer his Islam, the less kind and gentle he would be toward Infidels -- as the Qur'an tells him (48:29), as the Hadith makes clear in its most authoritative recensions, as the example of Muhammad instructs.

And when an Infidel experiences mental desarroi or depression, he can blame his parents, his children, his siblings, his karma, The System, Amerika, the stars, fate, his cholesterol level, his serotonin level, or even --- himself. When a Muslim falls into any kind of distress, with that mental vademecum and pocket prism through which to view the universe, Islam, he can blame the Infidel. (And this assumes, which may not be true, that Taheri-azar did not quite take the tenets and attitudes of Islam as much to heart before, when he was merely that "kind, gentle and pure soul.") As Taheri-azar did.

This kind of thing, this Muslim version of the old immigrant mother in the Jimmy-Cagney movie assuring the police that "my boy's a good boy," is particularly telling. For it happens all the time, with suspect after suspect -- the terrorists in London or Madrid or elsewhere are always being described, by a brother, an uncle, a father, someone, as "kind" and "gentle" and "pure." The message always is: How Could It Possibly Have Happened?

Now, two things are possible. Both should not relieve, but increase, the alarm and suspicion felt by intelligent Infidels. One possibility is that this sister is flatly lying, that she knows perfectly well her brother was consumed with the anti-Infidel teachings of Islam, and had given many signs of it. The possibility is that all these family members (that uncle of one of the London bombers, who first expressed his "amazement" at his nephew's action, and later expressed not amazement at all, but pride in the actions) understand perfectly why their son, brother, nephew, did what he did, and the obvious sources for his attitudes and actions.

The second possibility, far less likely, but still conceivable in a few cases, is that some of these people really are not quite aware of the natural effect of Islam on those who take Islam seriously. Again and again "moderate" Muslims, or those who are not even really Muslims but rather "Muslim-for-identification-purposes-only" Muslims, have themselves been amazed, when they return to a Muslim environment, to see the effect of Islam. How many of those the American government listened to in fashioning its Iraq policies were of the latter kind, the Allawi-Chalabi-Makiya kind -- the essentially secular Shi'a who had spent decades in the West and became westernized, and forgot or allowed themselves to forget just how crazy, how aggressive, how conspiratorial, how antipathetic to the ideas of compromise and power-sharing and common sense, is the world of Islam, a world that combines a dreamy blend of inshallah-fatalism with the duty of Jihad, which requires action, action, action (not the action of Western man, going to work every day, piling one stone on another to build the edifice of an economy or a civilization). That action is not to build but to either destroy (what the Infidel has) or to appropriate it (through Jizyah in all of its disguised and undisguised forms) or to seize it, as Muhammad seized the booty of those he would declare, in order to seize that booty, his enemies, such as the inoffensive Jewish farmers of the Khaybar Oasis.

So which is it? Is it the deliberate attempts by all these family members of all these terrorists to deceive us, which means they are exhibiting the problem with so-called "moderate Muslims" whose behavior simply deceives us and keeps us fooled a bit longer?

Or are those family members themselves fooled? And if they are, then how is that Infidels should be expected to detect the Muslim immigrant who is like, or will turn out to be, just like Taheri-azar, and the one who is like, or will turn out to be, just like his presumably inoffensive sister? If "only" 10% of Muslims in the West support "suicide bombing" (the figure is much higher in the opinion polls) or "only" 40% of Muslims in England support the imposition of Sharia' law in England -- which would mean the end of England as it has slowly been fashioned since the days of the Standing Stones of Callanish, and Stonehenge, and woad-painted tribesman -- what does this mean?

Why should Infidels take a chance, if the likelihood of their being able to distinguish the "moderate" from the "immoderate" Muslim is even slimmer than that of the closest relatives of those Muslims found to have engaged in would-be, or successful, acts of terrorism -- and given that the problem is complicated by the "My Son the Fanatic" problem where the children or grandchildren of "moderates" who may be classified mainly as economic migrants "return" to Islam, with dangerous consequences for Infidels?

The sister of Taheri-azar, like all the other relatives "amazed" at the "inexplicable" behavior of their relatives, are apparently unable cannot figure out what it is, what doctrines and attitudes, what passages in what set of texts, taken seriously, might have caused her kind, her gentle, her pure-souled brother to do what he did.

She can't figure it out. But we can.

Posted by Robert at March 28, 2006 6:00 PM
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So many violent criminals are described by their families as having been "a good boy" or some other rot that there is not real need to put an anti infidel slant on the remarks of his sister.

Posted by: Jerry M [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2006 6:16 PM

Rubbish!

That is just the usual Mohammedan song & dance in order to avoid that dreaded 'backlash'...

Once they're out of danger and they see that we don't roast the whole tribe for collective punishment (as they would normally do) then they come out with the truth. Like the uncle of one of the 7/7 bombers who received a 'martyrs funeral in Pakistan, or like Mohammed Atta's father, who first claimed 'it was the Mossad & the CIA', and 6 months later he spewed hatred against the US and the west that would make Umm Nidal, that brood-sow for Jihad, proud.

Moussawi too: How many times have we seen his mother crying crocodile tears on TV telling us how 'innocent' he is and that we must not execute him or make him a 'scapegoat'...

All the 19 'magnificent' hijackers are revered throughout the Mohammedan lands, so is Bin Laden. Even his mother said 'he could never have done it, he is such a good muslim...'

Standard procedure...

Nobody should be fooled by it.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2006 6:37 PM

Jerry! That was excellent taqiyya - 'let us echo in your ears'. It's like they all have well thumbed book of taqiyya verses.

Posted by: John Sobieski [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2006 6:44 PM

Re Norman Bates-

Hugh,

The closer people are to others in terms of personal relationship (especially family), the more likely they are to be blind to abusive behavior. So I'm not surprised that the sister and mother would not see the sinister nature of Taheri-azar. I'll bet the mother and sister have taken crap from him for years-but they explained away his arrogant behavior in one way or other. But there must have been plenty of people (not relatives) who sensed danger from him. Bet on it. I would like to know what Taheri-azar was doing and who he assosiated with in the past 6 months-year. That will reveal a lot.

My hunch is that in the past few years he has collided with the real world where strangers would not coddle him, where they challenge his thoughts, where people don't take excuses, or care about his feelings, where women told him "get lost creep."-LOL. He retreated from reality into the Koran. But who (besides family) was he associated with in the past year?

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2006 8:08 PM

"The closer people are to others in terms of personal relationship (especially family), the more likely they are to be blind to abusive behavior."
-- from a posting above

That will come as news to some of my relatives.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2006 9:36 PM

Hugh,

You're funny.

But the truth is (from my observation) that people will dump on family (and they will take it) because family are the only ones who take such crap. No stranger will put up with the abuse that family members often take from other family members. It's amazing. I've seen it. In fact, a friend of mine complained to me about his rather selfish father putting unreasonable demands on him, and asked me why? I told him the reason his father behaved so badly is because he's family. And there are no hatreds like family hatered.

I'm not surprised that Taheri-azar's mother and sister think he's peechy keen. But I would like to know what non family members thought of him (especially people who worked with him) and who he was associated with in the past year. He did not do this on a whim-there were people who saw it coming or who made it come about.


Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2006 10:32 PM

She can't figure it out. But we can.
Posted by Hugh

The odds are she didn't have to think too long and hard about her brother's bizarre behavior because to the family, it was completely normal and acceptable. Sharia may exonerate him but infidel law will not. That cruel injustice is bound to elicit additional contempt and resentment in this lovely muslim "American" family.

What I find really interesting about this guy is that he has lived in the U.S. (according to his letter of explanation) since he was two years old! He was raised here, went to school here, and yet he is an Islamic fanatic. How did that happen? Perhaps the entire family are fanatics; maybe their imam galvanized the latent jihadi lurking behind the facade of his kind, pure, and gentle psyche. He is a chilling example of a thoroughly "Americanized" muslim; kind, pure, and gentle on the surface; seething, hostile, and sociopathic by nature. How many more ticking timebombs like him are set to explode?

Muslims are like Chameleons; you never know when they're going to change color. That is why no muslim can ever be trusted.

Posted by: Susanp [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2006 12:53 AM

Raleigh,NC alert

Organizing a group of RTP,North Carolina citizens that will educate the NC public about the ideology of radical Islam. Looking for just a couple more energized local folks.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RTP911

Posted by: savetheus [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2006 12:56 AM

I cannot condone what this ungrateful muslim has done.

Since being in Amrika, he has had the opportunity to become educated, live in relative comfort, watch the TV, go to football games, sing, get a girlfriend ....all in all to become an infidel in all but religion....even that he could ditch...the infidel allows that.

But then he discoverd himself....his identity....and rather than become a peace loving muslim....he chose the acid test.

I am sure he had a raging argument in his mind...which way to go .....infidel living(which he clearly enjoyed) or be true to himself.

He found that all seeing and all feeling Allah was watching him...Allah resides in every red corpuscle in his body...what a betrayal to Allah if he chose Infedel living over Allah, he could not sleep as Allah was in his dreams too...he had to act and so foolishly he did.

Now, he can try & find solace from Allah while rotting in jail (I'm sure he will carry on Dawa in jail anyway).

There ARE peaceful ways in Islam....a pity he did not find the balance that Allah so talks about.

may you only find peaceful Ahmadi muslims near you ....peace

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2006 4:35 AM

Its still spelled 'America', Naseem. If its easier for you, 'the US' also works. I know you think its clever to mispell the name all the time, a little jab at the "Great Satan" and all, but do grow up a little. People who run around saying peace and actually meaning it don't engage in the peevish activity of intentionally mispelling or mispronouncing proper names. Thank you.

Posted by: Eisenhund [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2006 7:03 AM

Funny, we never hear about examples of "peaceful ways" in Islam.

That this young man was inspired to wreak havoc by Allah is definitely true, especially when we remember that Allah = Satan. I just never thought I'd see Naseem admit it.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2006 7:04 AM

Hi Nazz; It's me. Once again, I've got to straighten you out on somethings.
(1) You claim;

"Since being in Amrika,(your spelling)he has had the opportunity to become educated, live in relative comfort, watch the TV, go to football games, sing, get a girlfriend ....all in all to bcaome an infidelin all but religion....even that he could ditach...the infidel allows that."

Now for starters, I agree with you that this person had a chance to educate himself but chose not to. How can I come to this conclusion? Easy, he was studying the koran during the time that he should have been studying his lessons!!! He even said so. Maybe if he had been studying his books from his classes instead of the koran, he'd still be getting his education. Maybe if he had been watching TV, he wouldn't have drove that SUV into the Pit. Maybe if he was at a football game, he would have been too busy to think about driving that day to the Pit. What's wrong with singing? And thank God he didn't have a girlfriend to twist into converting to Islime!
Your problem is that you think that all that Americans do is party and have a good time. Well, that is true some of the time. But we work hard to have those good times. Religion be damned. If being able to buy and sell as I please make me an infidel, then so be it. If being able to congigate with friends and neighbors makes me an infidel, let it be written. If going to church makes me an infidel, let it be done. And if having a girlfriend makes me an infidel, kiss my halfmoons!!!
(2) You also claimed that,

"He then discovered himself....his identity."

He must have found himself while reading Playboy or a Hustler magazine. There are a few UNC students that wish that was the case.

"and rather than become a peace loving muslim....he chose the acid test.

Only if he was in Chemistry 101.

Naseem, you're a sad case. Islam is not a religion of peace. The evidence is in your face. But yet you refuse to see the forest for the trees. Jihadist Mohammad Taheri-azar was practicing jihad (holy war) against, whom even you have called us, infidels. Do you really believe what the koran teaches? Do you really read what the koran says, or do you relye on what your iman tells you that the koran says? As a minister, I realize that the majority of church goers never open their Bibles until the minister or pastor gets ready to preach. Don't be bashful if you're like that.
Naseem, how can you claim to be peaceful when you fan the flames of intolerance yourself. I mean you do call non-believers of Islam infidels. And before you form a denial, reread your post above.
Now, I'll also agree with you that there are peaceful ways in Islam. Here they are; dhimmitude, jizya, submission or subjection to Islam, or death.
Naseem, I hope that YOU do find peace in your effort to find yourself. Like I've said before, I've studied Islam, know it. And trust me, if you're sincere about finding peace you'll leave Islam alone.
Freedom, it may be free but it ain't cheap.

Posted by: Ironman Hondo [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2006 10:12 AM


These people, even brought up for their whole lives in a foreign culture, have parents and 'religious' advisers who shape their thinking from the moment of their birth.

When you are told, within your family, that islam is superior, the Western world is evil,that it is right to expect everyone to submit to islam......................then you get out alone into the world and find that the infidels don't care for your arrogance and attitude and therefore sideline you because you are not socially acceptable, a problem arises.

Some people might really think and adjust their behaviour but others (many I think) blame the West for their own behaviour and become angry, bitter humans.

These people do not see anything right with females having as much say as males, all people being different and allowed to think and discuss........it is beyond their understanding unless they have a very solid intellect.

We can see in our societies how bad parenting, damages our children and this is what is happening here. These children are submerged in this mindset from the start.

Posted by: marilyn [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 29, 2006 7:35 PM

Ironman Hondo I love the Islime instead of Islam. Thats a good one. I will use it.

Posted by: julissamar [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 30, 2006 9:59 PM

Julissamar;
I can't take full credit for the term "Islime." It was coined by a fellow poster on this website. I'm carrying on from him/her.
But thank you anyway.

Posted by: Ironman Hondo [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 31, 2006 11:47 AM

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