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April 3, 2006

Abdul Rahman is not alone

In "Apostates from Islam: The case of the Afghan convert is not unique" in My Weekly Standard, Paul Marshall of the Center for Religious Freedom marshals an impressive array of evidence to show that Abdul Rahman, the celebrated Afghan convert from Islam to Christianity, is not at all alone in his suffering under Islam's apostasy laws:

Two other Afghan converts to Christianity were arrested in March, though, for security reasons, locals have asked that their names and locations be withheld. In February, yet other converts had their homes raided by police.

Some other Muslim countries have laws similar to Afghanistan's. Apart from its other depredations, in the last ten years Saudi Arabia has executed people for the crimes of apostasy, heresy, and blasphemy. The death penalty for apostates is also in the legal code in Iran, Sudan, Mauritania, and the Comoros Islands.

In the 1990s, the Islamic Republic of Iran used death squads against converts, including major Protestant leaders, and the situation is worsening under President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The regime is currently engaged in a systematic campaign to track down and reconvert or kill those who have changed their religion from Islam.

Iran also regards Baha'is as heretics from Islam and denies them any legal rights, including the right to life: There is no penalty for killing a Baha'i. On March 20, Asma Jahangir, the United Nations special rapporteur on religious freedom, made public a confidential letter sent on October 29, 2005, by the chairman of the Command Headquarters of the Iranian Armed Forces. The letter stated that Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei had instructed the Command Headquarters to identify Baha'is and monitor their activities, and asked the Ministry of Information, the Revolutionary Guard, and the Police Force to collect any and all information about them.

Other countries, like Egypt, that have no laws against apostasy, instead use laws against "insulting Islam" or "creating sectarian strife." In 2003, Egyptian security forces arrested 22 converts and people who had helped them. Some were tortured, and one, Isam Abdul Fathr, died in custody. Last year, Gaseer Mohamed Mahmoud was whipped and had his toenails pulled out by police, and was told he would be imprisoned until he gave up Christianity.

While there has been no systematic study of the matter, and many punishments are not publicized, it appears that actual state-ordered executions are rarer than killings by vigilantes, mobs, and family members, sometimes with state acquiescence. In the last two years in Afghanistan, Islamist militants have murdered at least five Christians who had converted from Islam.

Vigilantes have killed, beaten, and threatened converts in Pakistan, the Palestinian areas, Turkey, Nigeria, Indonesia, Somalia, and Kenya. In November, Iranian convert Ghorban Dordi Tourani was stabbed to death by a group of fanatical Muslims. In December, Nigerian pastor Zacheous Habu Bu Ngwenche was attacked for allegedly hiding a convert. In January, in Turkey, Kamil Kiroglu was beaten unconscious and threatened with death if he refused to deny his Christian faith and return to Islam.

Meanwhile, on March 21, the Algerian parliament approved a new law requiring imprisonment for two to five years and a fine between five and ten thousand euros for anyone "trying to call on a Muslim to embrace another religion." The same penalty applies to anyone who "stores or circulates publications or audio-visual or other means aiming at destabilizing attachment to Islam."...

But then Marshall continues the unfortunate practice of both the Center for Religious Freedom and My Weekly Standard: denying the implications of this evidence and misleading the public with the idea that all this represents a twisting of true Islam -- which implies in turn that it can be untwisted with relative ease.

We need to go beyond the individual case of Abdul Rahman and push for genuine religious freedom throughout the Muslim world. Especially we need to push for the elimination of laws against apostasy, blasphemy, heresy, and "insulting Islam." They seek to place dominant, reactionary interpretations of Islam beyond all criticism. Thus--since politics and religion are intertwined--they seek to make political freedom impossible.

Of course Marshall is absolutely right that we need to "go beyond the individual case of Abdul Rahman and push for genuine religious freedom throughout the Muslim world," and to "push for the elimination of laws against apostasy, blasphemy, heresy, and 'insulting Islam.'" And he is correct that such views are "dominant"; it is good of him not to repeat the "tiny minority of extremists" mantra.

But when he characterizes all these things as "reactionary interpretations of Islam," he creates the false impression that non-reactionary interpretations are stronger and more deeply rooted within Islamic tradition than they actually are. In fact, in the fiqh -- Islamic jurisprudence -- there is complete unanimity: a male apostate must be put to death unless he is insane or has been forced into apostasy. Muhammad's dictum that someone who changes his religion must be killed is amply attested in the Hadith: it appears in Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi, Abu Dawud, Ibn Majah, An-Nasai, Malik, Tayalisi, and Ibn Hanbal. There is only some disagreement about female apostates and about the manner in which the apostate is to be put to death.

Why does this matter? Because it gives us a realistic sense of how easy it will be to "to push for the elimination of laws against apostasy, blasphemy, heresy, and 'insulting Islam'" in the Islamic world, and what obstacles we will face in doing so. These things need to be assessed realistically, not smoothed over by analyses that mislead Westerners into thinking the tasks we face will not be as difficult as they actually will be.

Posted by Robert at April 3, 2006 8:49 AM
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It can be done. Under Saddam Hussein, "honor" killings were illegal and non-Muslims were not victimized. Why was this? Because Saddam's was a secular government.
Posted by: Big G In TX at April 3, 2006 10:14 AM
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Big G in TX, Saddam's reign was an Islamic dictatorship not a secular government. Saddam's troops did the killing across Iraq. It is good that Saddam is out of power.

The Sunnis and Shia will not and have not lived in peace with each other for centuries. America needs to allow the Sunnis and Shia to settle the ruling of Iraq by the means used for centuries, the victor rules.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost.

Posted by: Texican [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 3, 2006 10:58 AM

The christian countries need to offer an exchange program for Christians and other non-muslim converts in Islam. Trade two in-country muslim families for each convert from Islam.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost.

Posted by: Texican [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 3, 2006 11:00 AM

Big G & Texican;
You're both right. Sadman Insane's government was secular, but it was a secular dictatorship. Remember, even Osama bin Laden himself said that Sadman Insane wasn't a good Muslim.
But I must remind the both of you that Islam is not a religion but a culture, a way of life. The entire Iraqi population would have to be entroduced to freedom and taught to see that true freedom is not in a country run by Islam but in a country devoid of islamic rule. That means no clerics, mullahs, nor ayatollas calling the shots from behind the scenes. No puppet Presidents being controlled by Islamic religious leaders. Sitting on the bench of the courts of law imposing sharia law.
Iraq has a long way to go, but it can get there. Only without the bad penny, Islam!!!

Posted by: Ironman Hondo [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 3, 2006 1:03 PM

Paul Marshall is the coiner of a phrase for which confuses rather than clarifies. That phrase is "Extreme Sharia." But what does this mean? There is the Sharia. There are attempts to enforce it fully, or as close to fully as possible (see Saudi Arabia, see the Islamic Republic of Iran, see the Sudan, see Afghanistan under the Taliban). Then there are Muslim states that claim, or pretend, to be modern, forward,-looking, and not to base their legal systems on the Sharia, but merely to use it as a "model" but, when you examinate those legal systems in operation, you discover that Sharia is much more present than you were given to understand. See the discrimination against the Copts in Egypt, enforced at law.

There is no such thing as "Extreme Sharia." There is Sharia and various levels of compliance with it.

However, your next question has been anticipated.

Yes, there is still such a thing as Extreme Frisbee.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 3, 2006 2:16 PM

This morning, on KSFO, Ibn Warraq was the guest to talk about this topic. While I caught only 15 of the 20 minutes that he was on, I found his presentation embarrassing. I don't know whether his stammering, and taking long to answer was due to his attempts at disguising his voice, but even allowing for that, I found him to be a very weak advocate for the war against Islam.

Lee Rodgers, who was the host, asked him some brilliant questions, such as whether Muslim apostates face death threats from their families were it to be known that they've quit Islam. There were some others as well, such as a question towards the end, as to whether the reason Muslim conquerers in history raped women of conquered infidel terretories before killing them in order to deny them the entry to heaven. Warraq denied that it was in any of his books, as Rodgers assumed, as well as that being the reason. (The real reason, I believe, is the idea that the rape represents the conquest of an infidel woman by a Muslim male.)

I don't know how Ali Sina would have sounded, but he at least wouldn't sound like an apologist, the way Warraq came off. However, this was an interview that would have suited Robert well. I do wish that someday Hugh surfaces on this program.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 3, 2006 4:10 PM

Hugh,
But when you resign from the team they do not chase after you hoping to decapitate you with their frisbees.

Which one is the more extreme , I think the Sharia Team have it ! by a head (pun intended)

Posted by: Peter [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 3, 2006 4:31 PM

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