“We have identified and studied the enemies’ strong and weak spots in the region regarding ground, sea, and air forces”, Dadras said at the Friday prayers ceremony in Tehran."

What a wonderful religion this Islam is. I find it incomprehensible that a place of worship is used to broadcast militaristic propoganda.

I'm getting ready to go to church this morning. My Pastor will open his KJV and he will speak of the Messiah who had the power and authority to crush all evil doers, yet instructed us to turn the other cheek, and to forgive our enemies.

What a contrast.

Posted by: Ozi_bloke at April 15, 2006 7:13 PM

I have little doubt that President Bush and Condoleeza Rice are preparing a strongly-worded response ... as we speak.

Posted by: Havoc at April 15, 2006 7:24 PM

And in the meantime, we have Barbara Boxer all concerned that nukes are being considered as part of the plan to destroy their nuclear installations.

With senators like these, who needs enemies? If some mujahid manages to bring a nuke over to SF, they can ruin not only Diane Feinstein, but the lovely witch of Marin Cty, Boxer, as well.

Talk about a target rich environment.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 15, 2006 7:29 PM

Iranian mullahs and their prez are really itching for a fight.. something they really do not understand will be their undoing... the west needs to be attacked once with a wmd and it will be good bye iran.

Posted by: Lulu at April 15, 2006 7:34 PM

WTF, we've got all these nukes, but were scared to use them!!!

Posted by: crusader619 at April 15, 2006 7:47 PM

13 more days 'til the April 28 deadline for the IAEA report. While the world sits and waits, Iran will probably strive to fit in all the saber-rattling it can.

Posted by: Shinoliite at April 15, 2006 7:54 PM

While driving my car today, I smiled. On a CD was the old Gershwin song, 'Slap That Bass.' I thought of the Iranian thug-in-chief when I heard the words: 'Dictators would be better off if they zoom zoom now and then.'

The thug-in-chief forgot the read his bible. For everything there is a season, and he's gonna get his.

Posted by: biorabbi at April 15, 2006 8:00 PM

l dont know what else it would take to destroy the mullahs.. tne democrats ie barbara boxer and her ilk are making big boohoos about using anything on them, so we wait to be hit...

Posted by: Lulu at April 15, 2006 8:02 PM

He looks like a unshaven moron drunk with power acting tough in front of the boss.

Posted by: Denver at April 15, 2006 8:26 PM

Tactically, for the sake of our civilization's future, it would be 'best' to allow the Iranian maniacs to nuke someone (Israel most likely, but an American city, possibly -through a smuggled-in terrorist warhead) before we made any response to their growing threats.

Then, in answer, all nuclear weapons in any Muslim hands could be destroyed at once. Pakistan's and Iran's (and whatever others our intelligence services may know about).

Who could blame us then -except militant Muslims?

But, with their cult disarmed, who would care?

If we strike first, Iran will become the global anti-American-uniting victim, and Imperialistic Islam would continue to arm elsewhere. And paradoxically become an even greater danger, thanks to the covert sympathy/military aid of all who hate the West.

War is a struggle that requires you to utterly conquer your enemy. All losses getting there, however horrendous, are judged worthwhile if the end result is victory.

The veil of self-deception about Islam (covering too much of the Western mind) may take a monstrous demonstration of the cruel core of Mohammad's deadly dogmas before free people will come out of their collective comas and be prepared to fight for their lives in righteous rage.

Without this element of justifed fury, we would only slide back to the current pre-9/11 mindset, (which has returned to hamstring us) if we attack in half-measures.

9/11 was Pearl Harbor.

But the American people weren't the same people anymore in their native resolve. (Since WW II, we have 'invited in' too many Fifth Columns that gleefully work to divide us, from La Raza to Islamists.)

The people in the West seem to require far worse pain to burn away they defeatest delusions than the [media-supressed] horrors and carnage of 9/11.

The instinct for self-preservation being at its lowest ebb thanks to relativistic teachings in Western schools and by permitting your sworn enemies to enter your lands and pretend they are just sympathetic under-dogs and not killer leeches.

I wish there were a less bloody road, but the Uncertainty of the West appears to need a direct, agonizing, stunningly mortal threat to end its mass daydream.

Posted by: profitsbeard at April 15, 2006 8:59 PM

profitsbeard, your right.

Posted by: Denver at April 15, 2006 9:09 PM

Frankly, we should have taken the sob out a year ago; and destroyed the nuke project two years before that.

I'm ready to go if called.

Posted by: witness at April 15, 2006 9:41 PM

http://memritv.org/

Posted by: Foehammer at April 15, 2006 9:51 PM

All they are projecting is the decadence and failure of the west. In any other period of history this guy would of been swatted like the fly that he is. What will it take for people to fight this garbage.

Posted by: pissedoffcanadian at April 15, 2006 10:52 PM

Iran fought the mighty Iraqi army to a stalemate for eight years, the same mighty Iraqi army that the United States reduced to the potency of a Boy Scout troop in 3 days, and we did it twice (1991 and 2003) so it is definitely a trend. Let's see, if B = C and A crushes B, it follows that A is also capable of crushing C.

All wars are wars of attrition. The economy that runs out of steam first, loses. The entire annual productive capacity of Iran is $470 billion. The annual productive capacity of the US is $6,000 billion, a ratio of nearly 13 to 1.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan at April 15, 2006 11:11 PM

Could you only just imagine the outrage the western media would have if western peoples went into the street and yelled, 'death to Iran', only one time?
It would be media played till kingdom come (perhaps sooner than we want to believe). I still have not run from the belief of W, though the errors are glaring...
These Iranians took Americans hostage when Jimmy Carter was Pres, and they have not changed since...
Perhaps, our leaders should lay it on the line for them and for Europe, the United nations, to see... if they still persist in their intentions and rhetoric, perhaps its time to ratchett it up a notch.

Posted by: winston at April 15, 2006 11:59 PM

"The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm"

off on a tangent... "Metal Storm" is the name of a popular Turkish novel about a U.S. military invasion of Turkey that ends with Turkish agents detonating a nuclear device in Washington.

Iranian leadership have no end to crazy talk, but their actions are almost subdued. For instance the Hamas government hasn't been given a cent of financial assistance.(they won't cross that line)

I think the frog is starting to feel the heat.

Posted by: Rob at April 16, 2006 12:01 AM

Well 'w', the statement you are either with us or against us has never been more obvious than with Iran...

And so, if you are against us just what does that entail?

Seems like some leadership is due... or has time and events changed the 'gut check' for the times we are in?

Easy isn't part of any equation.

Posted by: winston at April 16, 2006 12:14 AM

COMIC RELIEF IN TEHRAN

Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler
Friday, 14 April 2006

The Pentagon takes the military and terrorist threat of Iran extremely seriously. Yet the brass in Rummy's inner circle could not keep their faces straight with all the recent announcements from Tehran.

A week ago on April 7, the air force chief of Pasdaran, Iran's Revolutionary Guards, Gen. Hossein Salami, announced the successful firing of a stealth missile impossible to detect by radar, hailing the Fajr (Dawn) 3 as a "remarkable" achievement.

Turns out it was a primitive Shahab-2 copy of an unsophisticated Russian Scud-C.

Sunday April 9, the deputy naval commander of Pasdaran, Gen. Ali Fadavi announced the launching of "the world's fastest underwater missile," a torpedo so fast it was undetectable.

Turns out it's a poor copy of a Soviet-era rocket-powered torpedo, the Shkval. It's range is less than four miles, has no target designation devices and is not self-homing. It's huge wake makes it easy to spot and destroy.

Also on Sunday, Iranian state television showed footage of a "super-modern flying boat" capable of launching missiles. "Because of the hull's advanced design," proclaimed the newscast, "no radar at sea or in the air can locate it."

That's what really made Rummy's team laugh their heads off. "This goofy contraption has a propeller!" one observed between belly-laughs. "It's about as stealthy as a lawn mower and about as hi-tech. Looks like the pilot seat is a lawn chair bolted to the top of the hull. These Iranians are funnier than anything on the Comedy Channel."

This should put in context the dog-and-pony show announcement by the Persian Midget, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (he's 5ft-4) this Tuesday (4/11), that enriched uranium had been produced by 164 centrifuges at the Natanz nuclear facility.

It's taken the Iranians years to do this. Now suddenly they announce they are going to make 54,000 centrifuges, enough to produce weapons-grade uranium for about 20-30 Hiroshima-size fission bombs (10-20kt) a year. 164 centrifuges. Wave a magic wand and we can make 54,000 more. Thank you for sharing.

"I grew up in Southern California and got into a lot of drag races when I was a kid," said one Pentagon guy. "The biggest put down of somebody's car was ‘all show and no go.' Looks like Tehran is getting desperate."

He meant that when you have to resort to such ridiculous bluff and bravado, it means you're scared. These goofball announcements are not meant to fool the world, they're meant to fool the Iranian people. The anger, disgust, and outright hatred of the Mullacracy by the people of Iran is at explosive levels. Ahmadinejad thinks he can con his countryfolk into supporting his regime with these "historic accomplishments."

The Media touts these announcements as a way of making Americans afraid of Iran. The Pentagon looks at these announcements and smells weakness. "This regime is tottering," comments one of Rummy's team. "It would be so easy to push it over a cliff - easy if State and Langley wouldn't get in the way."

Posted by: Roxane at April 16, 2006 12:39 AM

Let's assume that Iran is at least as far advanced as Pakistan. Let us even go so far as to say that at least one of the Pakistani Nuke tests was of an Iranian device (did anyone wonder why they set off FIVE tests in one day when one would have been sufficient?)

Missiles
Designation Other Name Range Payload Status Inventory
Hatf-1

60-100 km 500 kg testing 50?
Hatf-2 Shadoz 280 km 500 kg cancelled none
Shaheen Hatf-3 Ghaznavi 300 km 500 kg 1995? ~34-80?
Shaheen-I Hatf-4 800 km 500 kg 1998 50
Shaheen-II Hatf-6 Ghaznavi 2,000 km ~50
Ghauri Hatf-5 1,500 km 700 kg 1998 ? 200
Ghauri-III Abdali 2,500 km 1000 2004 50
Tipu 4,000 km
Babur 500 km Tested August 11, 2005
Aircraft delivery
2 units operating the Chinese-built A-5 (No. 16 Sqn and No. 26 Sqn), an aircraft believed to be a leading candidate for the aerial delivery of nuclear weapons. The others are the Mirage IIIOs, Mirage IIIODs and Mirage IIIEs. The Pakistani Air Force currently operates some 156 Mirage aircraft. The allocation of 90 of these aircraft is not currently known.

Posted by: tc399 at April 16, 2006 12:49 AM

No current figures are available unclassified for Iran. As usual, the US intelligence agencies have tunnel vision and were relying on a VERY old national intelligence estimate about Iran's nuclear program. In fact, it is likely that at least one of the of nukes Pakistan tested in 1998 was Iranian. As an aside, North Korea tested a nuke on Sept 9, 2004.

OK....The most current missile I know about is the Iranian Shahab 6, but only the 3a-3Cs are in deployment. Even so, they can carry fully guided MIRV nuclear warheads and it is likely that some are so equipped. Here are some old pictures (scroll down to the 3b's. the 3C through 6 are not pictured but you can get the idea):

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/printer_396.shtml

As soon as the Islamic fundies take over in Pakistan those 40 additional nuclear warheads will be available in Iran (if they aren't already). It is not likely that the US can take out both the Iranian AND the Paki nuclear weapons in one strike and it is not a given that the remaining weapons cannot strike Israel or US forces in the area including carrier groups and almost our entire effective army.

The US, now emasculated, is not going to strike civilian targets with nukes, so an attack from Iran or Pakistan can essentially be carried out with impunity. Israel has a second-strike capability, but so what? No one will be left in either Israel or Palestine. If the Israeli second strike goes off Iran can weather it.

Then there would be North Korea, China and Russia to contend with. The US will probably sit around undecided until we are nuked. Then we will toss all of our weapons off on fake targets in the sand dunes of Iran. And then we will have a huge problem.

Posted by: tc399 at April 16, 2006 1:32 AM

tc399-

If one thousandth of our arsenel hit Iran, there would be a nation-sized glass desert in place of the former land of Persia.

But such extremes aren't necessary or useful.

It is the leadership that needs ending.

The sooner Mahmoud and the mad mullahs are mulch, but safer the Persian people will be.

May they take up Zoroastrianism again, or de-Mohammadized Baha'i, and finally escape the killer cult of the Koran.

Inshallah.

Posted by: profitsbeard at April 16, 2006 1:57 AM

We shoulda been peddling Pershing IIs like a crack dealer to both sides during the Iraq-Iran war.

De-Islamization is looming as an historical imperative, and that woulda been a fine head start.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at April 16, 2006 2:35 AM

profitsbeard

I'll root for Zoroastrianism. Only thing I have against Bahai is its recognition of Islam as a legitimate religion: just because they are persecuted by Muslims shouldn't automatically make them a substitute choice. Something that Ali Sina alludes to in the article below.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/Persians_are_ready.htm

Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 16, 2006 2:43 AM

-prophetsbeard

Tom Cruise and I understand Iran. They need a good dose of Scientology. Then we would have every reason to nuke them.

Seriously though, 25 nukes (1/1000th of our usable arsenal) is not enough. Once you install a totalarian government, you can't vote it out. The Iranians have had 27 years to get rid of the mullahs and now it's up to us. But we won't until we are nuked first. It's the American way.

Posted by: tc399 at April 16, 2006 3:17 AM

Nothing is going to change until everyone stops killing people on behalf of their huge, invisible humanoid pal who lives in the sky.

The Catholic church had to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into the 21st century but now they accept evolution and accept that there may be life on other planets and that the world isn't really as flat as they once thought. If they had nukes during the crusades we wouldn't be here now. We had better stop the Muslims from using theirs on us.

Posted by: tc399 at April 16, 2006 3:28 AM

With senators like these, who needs enemies? If some mujahid manages to bring a nuke over to SF, they can ruin not only Diane Feinstein, but the lovely witch of Marin Cty, Boxer, as well. Talk about a target rich environment.

I am so upset at this statement of yours, Infidel Pride.

The Moslem acitivists should not, must not, nuke the bay area. Working their Dawa and Lesser Jihad in that target rich environment, not only can they get Sharia, they can get rich. And get laid. After the money and the white girls are played out, then they can do the Great Jihad thing and nuke the area as they proclaim in their most holy and sacred intonations made from their tax-free mosques.

This is why Michael Savage lives there. He knokws that the activists of Islam who will be running the nuke blast operation will be sure to give "Savage" the high sign to evacuate before the most holy and sacred mass murder detonation peace and blessings be upon him and SWT (whatever that cult incantation means).

Amen.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at April 16, 2006 3:52 AM

Pig Farmer, I believe there is a future for you at Landoverbaptist.net

Posted by: tc399 at April 16, 2006 3:57 AM

tc399, I believe there is a future for you in a remedial reading class. If you're too embarrassed to do it at the local community college, a lotta school districts run remedials on a very discrete basis.

Good luck to you, and to your Marixt Islamist. pbuh.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at April 16, 2006 4:22 AM

I meant it as a compliment. They are always looking for humorists and I thought your post was quite humorous.

Never mind, mate. Let's let it go.

Posted by: tc399 at April 16, 2006 4:31 AM

APF

Like I pointed out in the thread in D/W on whether Jiziya has been worth it (by Hugh Fitz-fill-in-your-name-for-the-post), Savage has been ranting the last few days about moving to FL. My condolences to FL.

There is truth in what you say re: Dawa. This is, after all, the county that gave us Johnny bin Walker, to use the name the Maharushie gave him.

Oh, and we're also home to the Taliban rep in the House - Barbara Lee, the lone voter against retaliation for 9/11. Berkeley is proud of her.

Target rich rich environment.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 16, 2006 4:50 AM

tc399

Scientology should be forced on the Arabs. Their women should be forced to have births without epidurals, and that too, silent ones. We might then see their breeding get slowed down.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 16, 2006 4:52 AM

There can be little doubt that these words uttered by Winston Churchill on April 24, 1933 are highly relevant today, and so true.

"The worst difficulties from which we suffer do not come from without. They come from within. They do not come from the cottages of the wage-earners. They come from a peculiar type of brainy people always found in our country, who, if they add something to its culture, take much from its strength. Our difficulties come from the mood of unwarrantable self-abasement into which we have been cast by a powerful section of our own intellectuals. They come from the acceptance of defeatist doctrines by a large proportion of our politicians....Nothing can save England if she will not save herself. If we lose faith in ourselves, in our capacity to guide and govern, if we lose our will to live, then indeed our story is told."

You could swap the word "England" for any Western country and still it will ring true.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at April 16, 2006 7:35 AM

I am agree with profitsbeard completely

Posted by: Franze at April 16, 2006 7:53 AM

Spirit:

I never knew what a mental genius Churchill was!
I collected some of his sayings, but thanks for what you posted above. I guess I have to educate myself and buy a book to read up on old Winston!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at April 16, 2006 8:42 AM

Roxane posted an article above: "Comedy Relief in Iran" -- I just wanted to mention again that this Iranian press footage is available on memritv.org and that I completely agree with our military leaders. Laughable attempts at propaganda.

The best part is when one of Iran's top military leaders claims that Iran could blockade oil traffic at any time in the Persian Gulf.

LOL.

Oh, really? I don't think the combined naval forces of the entire world would want to take on the United States at sea, so I can't wait to see this confrontation: Iranian 'flying-boats' vs American aircraft carriers.

Posted by: Foehammer at April 16, 2006 9:28 AM

Infidel Pride-

I'm hoping for anything but Islam in Iran.

Assyrian/Thomist Christians, preferably.

Zoroastrians, second.

Or Baha'is, if nothing else charmed them away from the Killer Kult of the Koran.

The Baha'i's would have no Islam to "recognize" if the Iranians Muslims became Baha'is in great numbers, because the rest of the Islamic world would declare them heretics/apostates, and call for their extermination.

This would galvanize their instinct for survival, burn away the illusions about co-existence with militant Muslims, and align them with those who would aid their peaceful survival.

If the young Iranians just became non-practicing secularists, zen mystics, Moonies or Druids, we'd be better off.

To paraphrase a former first lady:

Islam- Just Say No.

Posted by: profitsbeard at April 16, 2006 11:24 AM

Spirit:
You have only to contrast Winston Churchill's plea to cast off national self-abasement, with Neville Chamberlain's wallowing in moral equivalence and "understanding" the enemy:

"It has always seemed to me that in dealing with foreign countries we do not give ourselves a chance of success unless we try to understand their mentality, which is not always the same as our own, and it really is astonishing to contemplate how the identically same facts are regarded from two different angles."
-- Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, in a speech to the British Parliament, 1938

Chamberlain's mentality is still with us today. And it's just as corrosive to Western will today as it was in 1938.

Posted by: Steven L. at April 16, 2006 7:16 PM

Dadras said

"We do not need foreign support. We have an adequate missile capability which can guarantee our national interests”

Well he did and he still has support from, yes the industrial Nations, and they weere the ones who sold this technology to them.

Pakistan, and N. Korea sold them the Technology to build the SHAHAB-3 Missiles, in fact it was China and Russia, who helped N korea, who then helped Pakistan and Iran.

Russia helped build the nuclear plants, while Pakistan sold the Iranians the further Nuclear Technology after Germany, didn't quite finish building the other Plants.

Incidently the U.S. start this mess by helpng them build 20 Nuclear Poweer Stations, when the Shah was in Power.

Isreal probably looked on biting their fingers down to the elbows while everybody was making all that money selling arms and nuclear Tecnology to their "modern" neighbours.

The Foreign Policy of both the West and Asia is one of the most irresponsible since, the U.S. trained the Mujahdeen in Afghanistan to fight the Russians.

Sanctions stopped Saddam Husseins Nuclear program, but not before he managed to invade two neighbours (Iran and Kuwait) and then threatened and attacked Saudi for being the Host and Isreal because they are standard target in all of this.

A nuclear strike against Iran is totally ridiculous, there are civillians lives at stake.
So, although Iran would like the West to attack its installations so it can have an excuse to respond, I hope that we are smarter and just simply place sanctions on them, by that time we will have gotten further with developing an alternative to that damn "OIL" they have so much of.

Of course Isreal will probably take a unilateral stance against Iran so maybe we shall see some fireworks before the year is out.

200 dollars a barrel anyone ?

Posted by: Peter at April 17, 2006 2:25 AM

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE INSTRUCT THE PENTAGON TO DEPLOY SOME EMP S OVER ISLAMIC ROGUE STATES' AIR SPACE BEFORE A MAJOR TRAGEDY OCCURS?????

Posted by: pythagoras at April 18, 2006 5:07 PM