I sure hope this is just some muslim posturing. We thought the world changed after 9/11 I don't even want to think about how it would change if they actually have one of these.

Posted by: Matt at April 27, 2006 8:11 PM

Besides, wouldn't our intel sources or anybodies for that matter have spotted a nuke going off at anytime in kabul??

Posted by: Matt at April 27, 2006 8:18 PM

One of the suitcase nuke weapons was tested in Kabul in 2000? Too funny!

Mohammed? Don't ya think we should test one of these suitcase nukes we just bought to see if they're any good? Okay, cover your ears and I'll push the button on one.. two.. three!

Posted by: Mahdi Al-Dajjal at April 27, 2006 8:25 PM

"...al-Qaida had made arrangements to smuggle nuclear weapons and supplies to Mexico, From Mexico, he said, the weapons were to be transported across the border and into the United States with the help of a Latino street gang.

Mir also maintains that numerous sleeper agents are in place in major cities throughout the United States to prepare for the nuclear holocaust. Many of these agents, he says, are Algerians and Chechens who obtained European passports and are posing as Christian and Jews..."

Well, where are the FBI, NSA, Mossad, LAPD (possibly not), and others? They are aware of sleeper cells. European passport check given current computer technology should not be that difficult.

I know that there are sleeper cells where I live. And its pretty easy, if you have your eyes open, to sniff the manure. After all, these people must have come over probably not earlier than the last ten years, possibly five. Thye cannot be hidden that well. So come on government and, hey, citizens---sniff!

Posted by: HaMalach at April 27, 2006 8:25 PM

al-Qaida had made arrangements to smuggle nuclear weapons and supplies to Mexico, From Mexico, he said, the weapons were to be transported across the border and into the United States with the help of a Latino street gang.

Entirely possible...how many would still be asking the asinine question "why do they hate us?" (puke)

Posted by: Carolyn2 at April 27, 2006 8:29 PM

If they had nukes they would have already used them! This bull about waiting for Iran to be attacked is being used to loosen support over attacking Iran. I think they will use nukes to scare Israel into giving up land long before they nuke the US or EU. Muslims support destroying Israel more then destroying the US or EU anyways.

Posted by: billybob at April 27, 2006 8:42 PM

Does anyone honestly believe Iran will be left standing if a US city is nuked during an invasion into Iran? They will press the button first then ask questions later, or apologize/play stupid later if Iran was found not to be involved after all.

Posted by: billybob at April 27, 2006 8:46 PM

al-Qaida had made arrangements to smuggle nuclear weapons and supplies to Mexico, From Mexico, he said, the weapons were to be transported across the border and into the United States with the help of a Latino street gang.

Maybe that's why the feds rounded up all those members of the Latino gang MS13 a few months ago.

Posted by: dms at April 27, 2006 8:51 PM

YEA RIGHT????

SO IS HE SAYING THAT ubl[yellow coward who runs away]IS IN IRAN?

SENCE HE CAN'T COME UP WITH THE YELLOW COWARD??

Austin Powers where are you DR Evil is loose again??

There is a $25,000,000 reward on his head dead or alive his choice? [For me it would be much easier for the world dead]

now that is a hell of a lot of money why did this guy not collect the money if he knows where he is?

I have to say

ROTFL!!

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Posted by: Catherine at April 27, 2006 8:52 PM

Nuclear explosions in the United States will cause more devastation to the Islamic nations in the form of collaterol damage than the impact (however terrible) the United States will suffer.

Encase anyone didn't know, the United States of America produces at least 30% of the global food supply. A fair percentage of which goes to the Islamic nations, much of it by way of organized charities. Islam has never produced much of anything (except possibly mayhem but we won't get into that here). It has parasitized itself off real civilizations that it has attacked and gutted. No Islamic country is really ready to face massive disruption in the global economy and the consequences that would bring. Any major disruption in the global food supply as would result from nuclear attacks will cause disruptions in food supplies in much of Asia and Africa--and probable widespread starvation since as mentioned these countries are mostly NOT ready for any catastrophic shut-off like this. Indonesia for example has for decades forced to import millions of tons of rice simply to avoid mass famine. The same is true of Bangladesh and Pakistan to cite but a few examples of how vulnerable Islamic countries are to disruptions in world the food supply.

Crooked people are usually are stupid, I've always been told. That would definitely apply here. al-Qaeda and its murderous minions will kill more Muslims that anyone else. Which bin Looney Tunes and Co. will likely blame on the United States AGAIN and attack America yet again.

Posted by: pythagoras at April 27, 2006 8:55 PM

Any of those whacked out gutter slime uses one of those in the US the Middle East will certainly cease to exist.

Posted by: Siciliano at April 27, 2006 8:57 PM

Hamid Mir, the only journalist to interview Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri in the wake of 9/11, has confirmed that al-Qaida has obtained nuclear suitcase weapons from the Russian black market, that the weapons were tested in Kabul in 2000 and that may have already been forward deployed to the United States..........

Mir said that he met with an Egyptian engineer last week who had lost an eye after one of bin Laden's nuclear tests in Kunar.

This is too much of a howler to get a respectable coverage here

• A suitcase nuke has already been tested in Kabul, and gone totally unnoticed?
• Another nuclear test in Kunar, and all that the engineer loses is an eye?

Rebecca, methinks you should screen these reports better before posting them. Else Jihadwatch will look more like a conspiracy blog rather than a compendium of news reports about various acts of Jihad worldwide.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 27, 2006 9:03 PM

"Encase anyone didn't know, the United States of America produces at least 30% of the global food supply."

Its funny the Muslims cut off hands on a regular basis but, yet have not heard of the saying, "Don't cut off the hand that feeds you."

Posted by: billybob at April 27, 2006 9:04 PM

Infidel pride - the article mentions "nuclear weapons," but doesn't elaborate on whether they are fissile in nature, or "dirty bombs." The info in the article seems to point to the latter.

Posted by: Shinoliite at April 27, 2006 9:10 PM

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-04-27T122931Z_01_L27486929_RTRUKOT_0_TEXT0.xml
Worried banks in Palestinian areas beef up security
April 27, 2006
By Mohammed Assadi
RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - Iron bars on automated teller machines, emergency hot line numbers and gun-toting guards are just some measures banks in Palestinian areas are taking as frustration grows over unpaid salaries.
Anticipating unrest, many banks have beefed up security with March salaries for 165,000 government employees already one month overdue. April wages should be paid early next week but officials in the Hamas-led government say they have no cash.
"We are worried because hungry people could do anything. Starvation knows no God," said one senior official from a Palestinian bank who declined to be identified

NOW YOU ASK WHY THIS STORY I THINK IT FITS WELL

FROM THE STORY ABOVE?

That relationship dates back to June 21, 1996, when bin Laden attended a terror summit in Tehran. The gathering attracted terror leaders from various places throughout the world, including Ramadan Shallah (the Palestinian Islamic Jihad), Ahmad Salah (Egyptian Islamic Jihad), Imad al-Alami and Mustafa al-Liddawi (HAMAS), Ahmad Jibril (Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine), Abdallah Ocalan (the Kurdish People Party), Muhammad Ali Ahmad (al Qaeda), and Imad Mugniyah (Hezbollah). The summit resulted in the creation of the "Committee of Three" that would meet on a regular basis for the "coordination, planning, and execution of attacks" against the United States and Israel. The committee members were Ahmad Salah, Imad Mugniyah and bin Laden

NOW DON'T THAT JUST FIT AND ALL WE HAD TO DO IS CUT OFF THE JIZZI TAX AND ubl[yellow coward who runs away]WITH ALL HIS MONEY CAN'T MAKE UP THE SHORTFALL??

I saw in iran today the people there are getting worried because they don't seam to make their own gas for their cars??

OH MY will the people of iran starve if we stop the food WE ARE AFTER ALL TALK-ING ABOUT USEING OUR GRAINS FOR OUR CARS??

Guess black oil don't go down to good??

AND why would iran want Nukuarl tec. when they can't even make gas??

NOW some things just don't make any sence...

NO MORE JIZZI TAX LET THE ARABS AND MULSUM TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN MONSTERS THEY MADE!!!

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Posted by: Catherine at April 27, 2006 9:17 PM

this is not a story worth posting here.
A) the title is "More evidence of al-Qaida nukes" Not only was there no evedince to begin with, this story does not have anything to add. the correct title should have been "random schmuck thinks al-Qaida has nukes." Personally, I do not consider a Mujahedeen with a missing eye evidence of a nuclear test. Also, i should think something like that would not have gone unnoticed.
B) Stories this unreliable will only make this site look like a conspiracy blog (thankyou "Infedel Pride") than anything. Please do not ruin the credibility of this site.

Posted by: Grant at April 27, 2006 9:29 PM

Shinoliite, AFAIK, suitcase nukes aren't dirty bombs - they are the types one puts on warheads on ballistic missiles and fires across continents.

In other words, portable nukes that can be easily transported from one part of a country to another for strategic or tactical reasons. Or, in this case, one country to another.

I don't doubt that al Qaeda could have gotten hold of such things: however, the reports that such things have been "tested" is what should make one skeptical.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 27, 2006 9:31 PM

If AQ managed to obtain Russian "suitase" nukes, all of them are long out of date. While the explosive component is still a danger, the fissle material is most probably not. These nukes required a lot of maintainance, which they have not received, especially since they left Russian hands (if they really did).

What we have here is nothijg more then Islamic bluster. Sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Posted by: kenprice at April 27, 2006 9:34 PM

We set and we wait. They brag and they boast. If they are successful in another attack we bury our dead. Then we go after them and all those here that allowed it, that made it easier for them to succeed. Then we bury them.

Posted by: uradumone at April 27, 2006 9:34 PM

I hope that Robert and Hugh never need to shut the comments section. Was glad to hear the variety of opinions on this article.

Posted by: StillBreathing at April 27, 2006 9:46 PM

Another thing - dirty bombs aren't nuclear weapons - they are usually nuclear waste that is the by-products of reactors, packaged with conventional explosives, thereby facilitating their scattering over a wide area. This waste itself would emit gamma rays, thereby threatening all life forms in their vicinity to some degree or another - similar to a Three Mile Island or Chernobyl. One wouldn't have to obtain them from Russia - one could just as easily procure them from somewhere like the Kahuta nuclear reactor, near Islamabad.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 27, 2006 9:48 PM

I have to admit, I'd be more than glad to hear that this nothing more than bluster; this story scared the sh*t out of me.
Some of it sounds sketchy, (dopey losing an eye), but then I have no idea what goes into testing something like that. Great way to ruin anight...
-VTA

Posted by: VTA at April 27, 2006 10:00 PM

InfidelPride FYI: In October 2002, a huge mushroom cloud (which no one really knows for sure was the product of a nuclear detonation or not --possibly NOT as this guy who supposedly lost an eye in Afghanistan at the time would likely be dead by now if it WAS a nuke I'm sure as would be probably a lot of other people) rising from and over the floor of the Afghan desert WAS reported by the newsmedia. Possibly this mushroom cloud in Afghanistan should have received more news coverage than it did (whatever it actually was). There was even news footage of it too.

I remember it very clearly. It was truly creepy.

Posted by: pythagoras at April 27, 2006 10:23 PM

A nuke went off in Afghanistan in 2000 and no one noticed? Why didn't AQ use their nukes when the US invaded in 2001? I guess we should be thankful that only one eye was lost in AQ's last nuclear explosion.

Posted by: Roxane at April 27, 2006 10:28 PM

I still think it would be risky to rule out this scenario entirely:

A major component of Afghanistan's non-opium income in the past has been related to mining. I'm no nuclear engineer, but deep mines, in a place as isolated as the country was in 2000, could have conceivably provided a cover. If the tests happened, the resulting seismic activity in such a backward country could have been overlooked as a minor earthquake.

This is all the more plausible in Kunar, located well within the Hindu Kush mountain range, where earthquakes are frequent.

Would there be lingering radioactivity? Probably. But, given the rugged terrain and general unfriendliness of the place, there are many places we haven't looked, or perhaps haven't bothered to go looking around with Geiger counters.

With a nuclear disaster as a potential consequence, as long as there's a possibility, it might be prudent to go back and check geological records around that time for anything that looks out of whack.

Posted by: Shinoliite at April 27, 2006 10:29 PM

http://www.forest.ws/WeSupportU.htm

Posted by: Catherine at April 27, 2006 10:39 PM

Ok. Lets start by listing all the possible reasons for this story:

1) It's true.
2) It's true and our governments want us to believe it.
3) It isn't true and our governments want us to believe it.
4) It's a load of b-----ks.
5) It's a load of b-----ks and our governments want us to believe it.
6) It's a load of b-----ks but it could be true one day sooner or later.
7) It isn't a load of c--p and enemy governments want us to believe it.
8) It is a load of c--p and enemy governments want us to believe it.
9) It is a lie but enemy governments want our governments to believe it and tell us to believe it.
10) It isn't a lie and enemy governments want our government to believe it and tell us that it is true.
11) Numbers (9) and (10) but our governments tell us it's not true.

...

Good grief, this gets so complicated. There is no way of using logic to prove or disprove the validity of this story. We need facts.

Pythagoras,

please try to find a URL. I seem to remember something similar.

Shinoliite,

Geiger counters! Nobody has used those for years in this sort of work! We can see individual lapis lazuli miners emerging from the underground workings on the satellite photographs. The satellite networks of both the UK and the USA now cover the area of Afghanistan completely - but only for the last thirteenth months, granted. Given the satellites which are now deployed we should see the radioactive signature of any test explosion, easily and beyond a doubt, because it would persist for decades if under a kiloton or so, centuries if over two kilotons. The signature radiation would stand out from the background like a lighthouse - actually like a hundred-thousand lighthouses all in one spot to the trained eye.

Even underground nuclear tests leave a signature that is unmistakeable. One would have to go down more than four miles in good shield rock to avoid satellite detection.

Personally, I think that this story is a crock, but, I agree, it could one day soon be true.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at April 27, 2006 10:59 PM

Dear Shinoliite,

There is no possibility of confusing a nuclear explosion with a natural earthquake. The signatures are radically and completely different. Even if the NE took place in good shield rock at a depth of four or five miles any competent high school amateur seismologist could tell the difference between it a natural event. The same applies to a ground level or atmospheric NE. On the instruments they simply are not the same. A child of six could see the difference.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at April 27, 2006 11:04 PM

Dominic-- D'oh! Shows you what I know. Like I said, I'm no nuclear engineer. Thought I saw some journalists toting Geiger counters in the recent footage from various networks' Chernobyl retrospectives, and that stuck in my mind.

Just trying to play devil's advocate in my previous post.

"Devil's advocate"... I bet that doesn't translate well into Arabic... ;)

Posted by: Shinoliite at April 27, 2006 11:07 PM

Line 4 of my last post should read:

"and a natural event"

Sorry for the typo.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at April 27, 2006 11:08 PM

Dear Shinoliite,

I shouldn't have been so hard on the old and trusty geiger counter. For immediate impact assessment and imperative biotreatment advisements, in and around ground zero, the medical staff, quite rightly, rely on them - and in those circumstances they do provide the correct guidance for medication (or the withholding of - horrible thought, nightmare city, scream, scream). However, our satellites must, must, MUST have seen any test even before full deployment thiteen months ago. In the absence of any comment from our own governments - or any leak, God help us - I am tempted to say that this story is a moonshine tale.

Let's not forget, however, that it could be true ... one day soon.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at April 27, 2006 11:22 PM

And Henry, dear Bro, in case you are reading this tonight, you will note that my punctuation is reasonably on. So there! Eat mine!

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at April 27, 2006 11:29 PM

Fink we should be prepared for strike on Iran's nuclear facilities SOON! Either Israel or U.S planes with maybe covert help from E.U now latter have the jitters over Iran being able to reach their European Paradise.
As for incredible story above thought Suitcase Bombs deteriorated quickly-which is why Soviet Mafia sold 'em to hopeful Al Quaeda.
There ain't no way a major Mushroom cloud could spread over Kabul without someone noticing.
Don't know if Mr Mir is a Muslim or not but whole thing smacks of Bluff-Hands off or else...
By the way what does that Madman who calls the shots in Iran -think will happen if they nuke Israel? Haven't you heard of nuclear fallout or acid raid sonny? Happens you're too close to emerge unscathed from any nuclear attack...

Posted by: Morgane at April 27, 2006 11:36 PM

What I think is realistic and perhaps iminent is a dirty bomb. There are large supplies of medical radiation material which could be spread via a conventional weapon. This would instill terror, kill many, and render a portion of a dense urban area barren. A small sleeper cell--four "youths" who were not properly "Americanized" could band together as "youths" sometimes do: one with explosives, perhaps one in a busy inner-city tertiary care medical center . . . lots of activity, poor records. lots of access. One might ask if the next attack will be modeled after the independent "franchise" operation that plagued the Tube in London. I think so. A group of like-minded "youths," pissed off at Gitmo, Iraq, with a little help at the Mosque, pushing the youngs minds over the tipping point. I would argue that not only do governmental labs need to be monitered or Mosques or the "Islamic Thinkers," but also our friendly foreign medical student/intern/resident/prof pool: straight out of Cairo, Amman, and, especially, Lahore. Sure, I know the drill: Islam means peace, but, to be on the safe side, better deadbolt the door to the radiation goodies.

Posted by: biorabbi at April 27, 2006 11:42 PM

Dear Morgane,

Low yield warheads, favourable prevailing winds, idiot in charge. Yep. He could go for it. Then it might be bye-bye Cyprus, Peleponese, Malta, Southern Italy ...

Who knows what a deranged mind like his could think?

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at April 27, 2006 11:43 PM

My gut tells me this is a hoax. Perhaps even payment for a journalists' unprecedented access to Al Qaeda' top henchmen. (in mixed Sicilian/arab accent..."someday, and that day may never come, I will ask a favor of you..)
Seriously, I doubt that islamists would wait until some series of events occurred to use such a bomb as retaliation. The threat of nuclear force as a deterrent doesn't seem to be the style of those we are facing now.

Pythagoras, a MOAB or daisy cutter, does indeed cause an impressive mushroom cloud, and certainly, the time frame fits.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 27, 2006 11:49 PM

Dear OneEyedJack,

I tend to agree. It's a hoax. But why and what's the point?

Aye, there's the rub.

reality.sys has encountered an error - universe.exe will shut down. Please back up all data immediately.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at April 27, 2006 11:55 PM

There is one thing I have been wondering since 9-11. Take a country like Saudi Arabia. The more money they get from their huge amount of oil, the more they invest in spreading their cult. I wonder if they go to Mexico with a large amount of money and nose around until they find those involved in smuggling and pay them to set up a direct path into the US. Dress the Arabs up to look like Mexicans and if their caught, they act dumb - don’t speak English etc. and they are sent back to Mexico to try again. I would guess there are many, many that have done it. And some Mexicans made a lot of money.More reason the border should have been secured long ago.

Posted by: THSIMJ at April 27, 2006 11:57 PM

Mir said that he met with an Egyptian engineer last week who had lost an eye after one of bin Laden's nuclear tests in Kunar

So, what exactly was tested? A trigger mechanism? Not all "nuclear tests" involve sustained fission resulting in a mushroom cloud.

In any case the Egyptian engineer reminds of the lost dog I saw on a poster once -- he had three legs; a broken tail; lost an eye, and answered to the name "Lucky."

Posted by: witness at April 28, 2006 12:00 AM

Perhaps, if or when these "sleeper cells" detonate a nuclear or radioactive "dirty" bomb, the American people will realize that they are being warred against. That these are not isolated acts of a few "fundamentalist" ("Islamist") terrorists but the jihad of Islam on the march to conquer the world and once again establish the caliphate.

Perhaps the American people will wake up and disregard the foolish babble of their president about the "religion of peace . . . " and all that respect for a "religion like any other."

Perhaps or perhaps not. The latter more likely than the former, alas.

What is needed? A real big Hiroshima-like blast? Let us hope not.

Posted by: unicorns62000 at April 28, 2006 12:07 AM

I am not buying this threat just yet.

Forward deployed weapons would have been used if availiable.

We should however be trying to limit the threat, therefore sealed borders on the US and EU should be a priority.

Targeting and destruction of all known nuclear activities within the umma should also be undertaken.

I agree with the post above, the reported mushroom cloud was probably a MOAB.

Dominic,

Do you have a URL where their are examples of radiation detection using satelites.

Posted by: km at April 28, 2006 12:09 AM

Not sure how to post a link, but I found this :

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/dprk/nuke-test.htm

In particular the part "A test in Pakistan?"

Posted by: never_a_dhimmie at April 28, 2006 12:30 AM

Keep in mind that the yield of a suitcase nuke would be quite low -- perhaps as little as 20 tons of TNT, which is to say, less than 1/100 the size of the Hiroshima bomb and 1/1000 or even 1/10,000 the size of today's huge-yield nukes. So maybe it could be tested somehow underground without being noticed?

Although this particular news report does sound like it has no substance, we shouldn't have any delusions about the near future, as nuclear weapons technology continues to spread and get easier. We must do more to control the borders.

As for other WMD possibilities, try googling "singularity" to learn about the emerging convergence of nanotechnology, computer science, biotech, and brain science. The dangers facing us appear to be growing, as technology increasingly 'democratizes' destructive power, making it possible for ever wider circles of people to destroy ever larger targets with ever fewer resources. Sir Martin Rees, England's "Astronomer Royal," a Royal Society Professor at Cambridge U., has bet 1000 pounds (he hopes to lose) that by 2020 bioterror or bioerror will lead to at least a million casualties in a single event.

On a more optimistic note, below are choice excerpts from the conclusion of an excellent report examining the question of suitcase nukes: (If you want more than excerpts, click for the report here.)

The open-source data on suitcase nukes is sketchy and incomplete. Still, even using this data, one can assess the nature of these weapons, the probability of an unknown number of them having been stolen, and the level of associated threat.

In spite of official denials, there are sufficient grounds to believe that the Soviet Union had one or more types of portable nuclear devices. Most likely, these were devices designed for the use by Special Forces (Spetsnaz), analogous to the American SADM, or using the physics package similar to that contained in artillery shells. The widely used word "suitcase" is misleading since these devices were quite heavy (no less than 60 lb, probably considerably more), but they could have been moved by one, but more likely, two people.

Without additional data, it is impossible to say with an acceptable level of certainty whether any number of these weapons was stolen during and following the breakup of the Soviet Union, as Alexander Lebed and a few other Russians claimed. Available evidence suggests that these stories were most probably not true, and that they were generated by incomplete information or ulterior motives. The probability that such weapons could be used by terrorists (assuming some were stolen) appears even lower...

[...]

Even assuming that some portable nuclear devices were lost, it would be very difficult to use them, and it is almost certain that the features that make portable nuclear devices so dangerous (small size and full-scale nuclear explosion effects) will not be taken advantage of.

[...]

In effect, portable nuclear devices, if stolen, will hardly be usable, at least not in the fashion that they were originally designed for...

That being said, low probability is not a sufficient reason for comfort or lower vigilance. Until the situation is sufficiently clarified, it will be necessary to guard against the infiltration of a portable nuclear device into U.S. territory...

Posted by: www.islamquest.blogspot.com at April 28, 2006 12:40 AM

As for 'dirty' bombs, the radiological danger they represent is a pittance, a mere nuisance, compared to the radiological danger of a real nuke: From the Nuclear Regulatory Commission website:

Basically, the principal type of dirty bomb, or Radiological Dispersal Device (RDD), combines a conventional explosive, such as dynamite, with radioactive material. In most instances, the conventional explosive itself would have more immediate lethality than the radioactive material. At the levels created by most probable sources, not enough radiation would be present in a dirty bomb to kill people or cause severe illness. For example, most radioactive material employed in hospitals for diagnosis or treatment of cancer is sufficiently benign that about 100,000 patients a day are released with this material in their bodies.

However, certain other radioactive materials, dispersed in the air, could contaminate up to several city blocks, creating fear and possibly panic and requiring potentially costly cleanup.

Posted by: www.islamquest.blogspot.com at April 28, 2006 1:01 AM

"...Many of these agents, he says, are Algerians and Chechens who obtained European passports and are posing as Christian and Jews..."

BS! This story and the guy who peddles it is fake.

Lets hope the bomb is faked also. But all I see is the usual Muhammedan drivel...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at April 28, 2006 1:12 AM

They'll eventually get one and use it.

Inferiority complex warped human nature guarantees it.

And then they'll be washed away like an ant colony under a pot of boiling water.

Only, I feel more sorry for the ants.

At least they aren't trying to turn me into one.

Posted by: profitsbeard at April 28, 2006 1:19 AM

Dear henry (the one who posts here),

My eldest brother is called Henry and he doesn't post here (I think) but he reads my posts and rides my tail about my bad English punctuation. He's quite right, but a bore about it. He says that I let the family down. I write what I feel with passion, if punctuation goes west then so be it. My bro will have to live with it. Sometimes I hate being the youngest. Would you believe it but he 'phones me up as I post and complains about my punctuation. Huh! He should get a life - preferably well away from mine. I love him heaps but bossy he is, very!

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at April 28, 2006 1:27 AM

Has anyone seen this? It was in the Today's News Summaries email from the Israel Unity Coalition.org that I just received. (Apparently, first reported at Townhall.com on April 8.)

Caroline B. Glick

townhall.com - April 8, 2006

On Monday, Russia's Novaya Gazeta newspaper reported that part of Ukraine's Soviet-era nuclear arsenal may well have found its way to Iran. With the breakup of the Soviet Union, the Ukrainians agreed to transfer the Soviet nuclear arsenal that remained in Ukraine after its independence to Russia. According to Novaya Gazeta, some 250 nuclear warheads never made it to Russia and are thought to have been sent to Iran instead. The report further noted that the warheads will remain operational until 2010.

Responding to the report, Gen. Yuri Baluyevsky, Russia's deputy defense minister and the chief of General Staff said, "Russia's General Staff has no information about whether Ukraine has given 250 nuclear warheads to Iran or not."

It is impossible to assess the accuracy of the report. The Ukrainian government has dismissed its allegations. Russia may well have invented the story to shift media attention away from the growing awareness that Russian support for Teheran, Damascus and Hamas effectively places it in the enemy camp in the US-led war against global jihad.

But whether this particular report is true or false, there is no doubt that the danger to Israel and the rest of the Western world emanating from Iran and its allies is growing by the day. In recent testimony before the US Congress, John Negroponte, Director of National Intelligence, said that the danger that Teheran "will acquire a nuclear weapon and the ability to integrate it with ballistic missiles that Iran already possesses" is a cause "for immediate concern."…

Posted by: Greg at April 28, 2006 1:49 AM

Dear km,

No URL yet, working on it. Speaking from personal knowledge. We use fine isotope detection to detect tectonic drift, future (predictative), now and past and I am absolutely sure that coarse detection must have gone aloft or else our governments have been asleep for sixty years and my satellite links are lying.

For seismology and surface readings and distinct signatures see any shock blast site and volcano/earthquake site. Signatures are distinct. Just Google and you'll get heaps. This is not difficult science. Google has it all as far as I can see in a scant half hour. There have been numerous articles in Scientific American (US) and New Scientist (UK) on shock wave detection and interpretation over the last thirty years, all of which are in simple enough language which anyone can get to grips with.

Omar at www.islamquest.blogspot.com,

Yes, but dump your radioactive materials in a water source and then see what happens. Using dynamite, or similar, is not the only way to disperse toxins, and, basically, that is what the uranics and trans-uranics are - incredibly lethal toxins. Try thinking outside the box for a change.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at April 28, 2006 1:52 AM

Omar at www.islamquest.blogspot.com,

Costly cleanup. The NRC doesn't know the meaning of those words. We're facing Jihadis for God's sake, not sensible people. The NRC thinks inside the box - the jihadists think any way they want to. Water, air, dynamite, dusted crop spray, contamination of food or medicine or real goods. Nuclear materials are not just of use in the bomb making process, they are also, many of them, some of the most incredibly toxic substances yet discovered.

For God's sake, WAKE UP.

Dominic

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at April 28, 2006 2:06 AM

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591022525/ref=nosim/103-0736917-6903053?n=283155

This book disclosed very similar information a couple of years ago.

As with most things, the real truth probably lies somewhere towards the middle, but when we're talking about nuclear terrorism, there is no room for error and definitely no room for wishful thinking.

I assume they have them and that the will use them when they are good and ready.

Everyone here should be prepared and ask yourself some very tough questions right now, because I know what I'll be on the next time these Islamist scum hit us: A damn warpath.

Anyone else find yourselves talking about the dangers of Islam even more openly than normal with your neighbors and business associates? Notice that people don't look at you like your crazy anymore?

The word is spreading and fast.

Posted by: Foehammer at April 28, 2006 2:28 AM

Omar at www.islamquest.blogspot.com

And you're 100,000 people a day is a planetary figure under carefully controlled circumstances. Try a small amount of hospital waste nuclear material being spread on the streets of one borough then tell me we haven't got cause to worry about a dirty bomb! NRC refuse to examine that scenario despite having had to clean up rubbish dumps - just to make it safe for the rats presumably (why else spend millions of dollars?).

Grow up, idiot! The dirty bomb may not be with us, it may not even be what you think, but it is possible, and it will kill should it be used.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at April 28, 2006 2:33 AM

Omar at www.islamquest.blogspot.com

What's more, the NRC never envisioned, nor do they acknowledge to this day, that Uranics and trans-Uranics would be so freely available. The entire basis of their argument is predicated on the false assumption that governments would always control the supply of fissionable material. They still believe, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that the normal operating procedures that they put in place over fifty years ago still hold good.

Ostriches. Sand. Head in the.

'Scuse me whilst I throw up! Stupidity on such a colossal scale almost deserves a medal. And you had the temerity to quote them. Dear God!

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at April 28, 2006 2:44 AM

If suitcase or back pack nukes exist, they must have done so since the late sixties or early seventies.
So many should have found their way smuggled to the States during the cold war in "diplomatic pouches or whatever. They are not simply a recent invention for the islamofascists -right?
WHy have we heard nothing or seen nothing after the fall of communism in the US?
Surely Gorbachov would have mentioned it to the US security and even if dicoveries had been kept secret by the CIA or US forces , there would have been a leak about such weapons on US soil.
This is what makes be doubt the veracity of such reports of islamic suitcase nukes.

Posted by: chevalier de st george at April 28, 2006 3:02 AM

To Dominic (aka necessitasnonhabetlegem) -- mellow out dude. I might be willing to learn from your intelligence, which I certainly recognize you possess, and from whatever knowledge you have that I lack, but I will learn a lot less from you if I have to get it through the medium of you engaging in name-calling and rude manners. I'm quite willing to be taught about dirty bombs and to discover my current views were mistaken -- indeed, your input (despite the somewhat aggressively self-centered manner of delivery) has turned dirty bombs into a new question for me. So why make people who would be your allies into enemies? How does that help this site and Robert Spencer? People who agree on the totalitarian danger of Islam need to pull together and learn from each other, not insult each other. Gratuituous insult among allies only helps the enemy.
- Omar

Posted by: www.islamquest.blogspot.com at April 28, 2006 4:41 AM

Reading the comments above, it seems most of the readers have come to the correct conclusion that this is a non-runner. We all know that AQ does not keep nuclear weapons for defensive purposes. (In this instance protecting Iranian facilities) It's their ambition to cause the maximum amount of destruction and number of casualties WITHOUT provocation. The events of 9/11 were more successful than they had imagined. They had no idea that the buildings would collapse, although they like to play up OBL's civil engineering knowledge. Any attack by them now would have to be more spectacular than the last to keep up the momentum. Suitcase bombs placed in several cities is problematic, namely keeping them concealed and the maintenance required by skilled personnel. Incidently there would be no point in testing a radiological bomb because it is in essence a conventional explosive device. These 'dirty bombs' have limitations from the terrorist's perspective. Although causing some panic and a costly clean-up operation the death count and visual impact would be limited, relatively speaking.
AQ selected this 'journalist' not to give the world an inside look into the reasoning and capabilities of their organisation but to use him as an instrument of their propaganda machine.
How this Egyptian engineer lost an eye I can only speculate. Maybe he'd been responsible in the purchase of the suitcase from the Chechyan mafia, only to find on opening it in front of his superiors, to be loaded with bricks. The result being a tirade of verbal abuse and a poke in the eye.

Posted by: western infidel at April 28, 2006 4:49 AM

1 mohammedan "engineer" + 1 sharp pencil = 1 missing eye

See? 1 + 1 can = 1!

Posted by: Eisenhund at April 28, 2006 5:04 AM

What is this site a CONSPIRACY SITE - bad marks for this one - better take more care in the future - stuff like this gives it a bad name!!

Posted by: johnmac at April 28, 2006 5:39 AM

Two completely opposite views about whether Iran has nukes: Michael Ledeen (he writes at National Review Online) suggested a few days ago on the Laura Ingraham show that he thought it pretty certain the Iranians already have nukes. He seemed to think it a no-brainer. The argument he offered was that it took the U.S. four years, with no outside help, to invent the thing -- the Iranians have been trying for 15 years and have had lots of outside help.

Comes now Edward Luttwak with a fascinating new piece at Commentary making a detailed argument that the Iranians do not have nukes yet. Luttwak also says the U.S. shouldn't bomb Iran's nuke facilities -- yet. He believes there is still a bit of time, and a chance the regime will collapse on itself, since so many Iranians hate it. He thinks the majority of Iranians have been cured, by the long and painful experience of Shia theocracy, of any desire to continue with political forms of Islam. He seems to believe that a new Iranian regime could become a firmly secular democracy and an ally of the U.S. Luttwak further claims that America and Americans are quite popular with most Iranians.
- Omar

Posted by: www.islamquest.blogspot.com at April 28, 2006 5:50 AM

Sorry, I put the wrong link in my last post. Here's the correct link to the Commentary piece by Luttwak.
- Omar

Posted by: www.islamquest.blogspot.com at April 28, 2006 5:58 AM

The speculation about Islam having nukes in the bulletin comes from Paul W. Williams according to WND at: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45203

In "The Al Qaeda Connection: International Terrorism, Organized Crime and the Coming Apocalypse," by Paul L. Williams, a former FBI consultant. Mr. Williams claims former CIA Director George Tenet informed President Bush one month after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that at least two suitcase nukes had reached al-Qaida operatives in the U.S.

"Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons," wrote Williams. "One suitcase bore the serial number 9999 and the Russian manufacturing date of 1988. The design of the weapons, Tenet told the president, is simple. The plutonium and uranium are kept in separate compartments that are linked to a triggering mechanism that can be activated by a clock or a call from the cell phone."

According to the author, the news sent Bush "through the roof," prompting him to order his national security team to give nuclear terrorism priority over every other threat to America.

We do need to be concerned about nuclear terrorism by radiological material or nuclear bomb. The mere fact Pakistan has nukes and has spread technology and materials around the globe should cause us all to lose sleep at night! World event prediction models (which have excellent forecast ability) model that the odds of 20,000 dead in this type of attack over the next 5 years is about 50-50. We need to be watching at least five times a day!

Posted by: David England at April 28, 2006 7:07 AM

Of course the Islamics will nuke the USA! Dr. William Wattenberg [Berkeley physicist] makes no secret that the USA's ports are scheduled for destruction ASAP! How can anyone "forget" Iran's promise to wipe us [USA] and Israel "off the face of the earth?" Come on, Gang! Wise up. According to Dr. Wattenberg they will set their nukes off as soon as they've "perfected" them, whatever that "perfection" may be. I don't want to live in such a world nor does anyone other than a terriorist, but we must remain awake to this real threat.

Posted by: LilOleMissy at April 28, 2006 7:19 AM

Hey, the suitcase bomb was set on stun.

Posted by: JanuaryMan at April 28, 2006 7:57 AM

What is this site a CONSPIRACY SITE - bad marks for this one - better take more care in the future - stuff like this gives it a bad name!!

Actually, it is a "conspiracy site" of a kind in that some see an "evil plot" by islamics to "take over the world!"

They must all be nuts I guess.

Posted by: witness at April 28, 2006 8:40 AM

Dear Omar,

Huge and humble apologies. Have just been told off by everyone in sight for being too forceful and rude. Chastened, I am saying sorry to you.

Sorry.

Left you a message on your blog.

Dominic.

Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at April 28, 2006 1:09 PM

Dominic (aka necessitasnonhabetlegem),
Extremely decent of you. At times I've done much worse and then been less ready and generous with my apologies. It's a lesson for me. Many thanks. - Omar

Posted by: www.islamquest.blogspot.com at April 28, 2006 3:03 PM

The problem with suitcase nukes is that they are myths. The fissionable material is highly radioactive and exposure to it would kill you within a matter of days or weeks, your hair would start falling out, skin flaking off, boils erupting.

Fissionable material requires massive lead shielding , and thus renders the idea of a suitcase nuke impractical.

Yes, there are suicidal Shaheeds who will gladly die to transport the material, but carrying such a bomb through customs or transporting it, isn't so easy, and should be easily detectable by satellites which most certainly can or should be equipped to detect radiation. If our satellites can read a license plate from space, they most certainly can pick up radiation.

The firemen and responders at Chernobyl, exposed to fallout, started to drop dead within a week, and surely anyone transporting nuclear material will also drop dead, and unless their bodies are secretly disposed of, they will show up in morques and hospitals and the casualities would most certainly be reported to authorities.

I don't think you would last long at all, if you were transporting hemispheres of plutonium in a suitcase.. and then they require a massive explosive charge (in a tube) to push them together so they can reach critical mass.

Posted by: Nariz at April 28, 2006 3:13 PM

Again, folks, let me give you a very basic piece of military strategic advice:

NEVER look at anything on the table in light of a best case scenario and expect to be prepared.

There is enough evidence that has surfaced over the past 30 years that leads me to recognize that suitcase nukes CAN be a reality, so therefore, I assume that they MIGHT exist. It really does not matter what we try to imagine the goals of those that possess them might be, what matters is that we know without a doubt that the agents of men like Osama bin Laden WANT those weapons.

It is all the more reason to stop Islam now instead of waiting more years for the likes of Iran to proliferate the means to more and more jihadists.

Yep, I know it's a lot to swallow and that it tastes lousy, but we all must take our medicine sometime.

Posted by: Foehammer at April 28, 2006 3:14 PM

Dominic (aka necessitasnonhabetlegem),
Besides my post to you above where I acknowledge your very generous response to my request, I also responded to your kind note at my blog. Thanks again. -- Omar

Posted by: www.islamquest.blogspot.com at April 28, 2006 3:20 PM

Just finished reading a book about cold war preparations in the UK. It said that we had battlefield nuclear mines back in the 60's. It worried me when i read it as i'd always assumed anything 'nuke' was large and complicated and certainly not portable. I hope these suitcases are a myth but who knows? The claim of a test in Kabul seems a bit unlikely.

Posted by: joe.ghost at April 28, 2006 5:34 PM

Suitcase nukes are very high tech items. The fissile material is plutonium in about 25% of critical mass.

Low yield is normal, but dial a nuke technology came out of these small packages. Yields as high as 1MT are possible. Hardly a city buster but detonation would not be pretty.

If these nukes date to the 60's and have not been maintained you could expect a partial detonation at best.

Personally, I think it's disinformation, just like the 250 nukes the Iranians got from Blazzitstan.

Rest assured, any Iranian nukes first home will be Israel. In a truly sophisticated operation Israel and the US, but that requires a lot of people and they all have tiny brains and a need to be important.

Anyway, I don't put much credence in this story.

Posted by: a10billr at April 28, 2006 7:00 PM

A guest on Fox news last week stated that nukes were in America and he expected them to be use within two years but no longer than five years out.

There will be hell to be paid if nukes go off in America.

Prepare.
Be armed.
Be ready for it will be too late if you wait until it happens.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost and it appears that the cost will be immense.

Posted by: Texican at April 28, 2006 10:37 PM

To All:

Think back several months and remember that our federal government was and is still surveilling mosques and mo's homes and businesses for radiation signatures.

The feds were not doing this for grins. CAIR tried to stop them and was told tough.

NUKES ARE IN AMERICA. TAKE THIS AS TRUTH.

IF YOU ARE NOT PREPARED, THE SUFFERING THAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY MAY EXPERIENCE YOU CAN NOT IMAGINE.

PREPARE NOW.
BE ARMED.
BE READY.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost and it appears that the cost will be immense.

Posted by: Texican at April 28, 2006 10:55 PM

There are supposedly around 100 suitcase bombs that went missing after the collapse of the USSR. While there is a good chance that some of these have found their way into terrorists the possibility of bringing one here is hard if not impossible. The Russian Red Mafiya has already tried sneaking a tactical nuke inside the US. The Red Mafiya has just as much if not more power than AQ. This is not a new threat to the US. Furthermore the idea of someone using a nuke on US soil is just asking for a retaliation strike against any country that has ties to them. Nothing we have been dealing with is new. The threat from terrorism dates back to the Cold War and probably beyond that. Any mexicans linked to such an attack would bring heat against their own country and all the illegal immigrants here. The last thing they want is for us to turn our wrath towards them. This is likely just more propaganda thats made it to the news.

Posted by: anubisblack at May 1, 2006 5:12 AM