I'm sure muslim groups were very joyful over the verdict.

The west deserves to lose.

Posted by: ranoir at May 5, 2006 9:12 AM

“Honestly, we haven't been commenting on the case because we don’t see him as representing Muslims,” said Rabiah Ahmed, spokeswoman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations

Oh yes he does.

Why is this so-called Muslim civil rights group still getting press after all they've said and done?

Oh, that's right.....because the mainstream media is the bastard love child of stupidity and cowardice.

Posted by: DCWatson at May 5, 2006 9:18 AM

The question I have is how long will it be, before Moussaoui becomes a name to rally behind. How many future hostages will be taken in order to "free" him. And will he become the next Nelson Mandela. (Note Mandela was brought to stand trial for plotting to overthrow the government by violence and was offered early release on condition he renounced the use of violence.) So in 40 years will Moussaoui be released and become the next President of America?

Posted by: Peter at May 5, 2006 9:18 AM

If you accept Moussaoui should have been tried in civilian courts - which I don't - this outcome isn't bad at all. The prosection had to rely on conspiracy to prove a capital crime in the first place. Life without parole in the federal system is the real thing, not to be confused with many state systems where it equals somwhere between seven to twenty five years.

Life in a supermax prison is not "Club Fed." He will have no opportunity for da'wa, very few if any visitors, and almost no contact with the outside world. Even the media will find it difficult to spin him into a cult hero, permission to see such prisoners being slim to vanishing.

He'll get three square meals a day, a bed, medical care, a shower a week, toilet, sink, and some bare walls. Everything on top of that is based on compliance with prison rules.

Posted by: Beagle at May 5, 2006 9:23 AM

Why do we suddenly believe these liars when they say "I won!"? If he'd been given a death sentence his crowing would have been louder, with thanks for the opportunity to be martyred at our expense. The various leftist "human rights" groups would have more ammunition. Hollywood would have turned him into the next Tookie Williams. As it is now, he's much more likely to fade into obscurity with the many once-famous inmates who inhabit the supermax prison to which he's been sentenced.

Posted by: Beagle at May 5, 2006 9:29 AM

I'll bet they were afraid to back Mouse. They don't want the truth out just yet.

Posted by: freewoman at May 5, 2006 9:34 AM

"and the end of an unhappy chapter in Muslim-American relations in the post-9/11 world."
-- from the article above

The "unhappy chapter" in "Muslim-American" relations, like that of "Muslim-Hindu" relations, "Muslim-Jewish" relations, "Muslim-Buddhist relations, "Muslim-English" relations, "Muslim-Italian" relations, "Muslim-French" relations, "Muslim-Maronite" relations, "Muslim-Copt" relations, "Muslim-fill-in-the-non-Muslim-of-your-choice here, will last as long as Sura 9 (start with 9.29 and 9.5) exists, as long as a hundred other passages in the Qur'an exists, as long as hundreds of the "authentic" (as winnowed by al-Bukhari and Muslim) exist, as long as the figure of Muhamamd is regarded as being that of the Perfect Man, beyond all criticism (and just try to be a Danish cartoonist now running for your life), becuase he, with Asma bint Marwan and the Banu Qurayza decapitations and the attack on the farmers of Khaybar Oasis, and his seizure of Safiyya, and his pleasure at the death of Abu Akaf and little Aisha and all the rest (are we to ignore all this, we Infidels? for how long can it all be kept a secret from billions of Infidels?) -- for that long, and for as long as the principles of Islam as a belief-system and therefore the principles of all those who call themselves adherents of that belief-system, flatly contradict everything of importance in the American Constitution and in the American political system.

There is no "end" to this.

Posted by: Hugh at May 5, 2006 9:35 AM

Its probably better this way - with a death sentence he would have had years of appeals and drama and slow martyrdom.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at May 5, 2006 9:57 AM

The West hasn't lost a thing Ranoir, the West won. We did not give in to our bloodlust for Moussaoui's death. Look at how the Islamic judical system is. There are many that post on this website that have shared video footage of how Islamic justice is played out. Check out some of these posts. Especially the one post from The Thinker of four men being stoned to death by a crowd of Muslims in Iran. The footage is not of good qaulity, but the viciousness, cruelty, and inhumaneness is there. There is no remorse in the crowd as Islamic justice is meted out. Most won't agree with me but I stand by the premise that Moussaoui is getting what he deserves.
But to be honest, I hate that Muslim groups such as CAIR think the same thing. I, personally don't want them to have the same opinion as I do. In their hands it becomes twisted and evil. But the only reason "Zach" got life was because he was tried as a criminal. The act that he was involved in was an act of war! He should have been tried as a war criminal. He should have been tried before a military tribunal. And lets face it, our judical system as it is can not handle terrorists. That's a job left up to the military justice system. It's cold and hard, but it's fair. And guaranteed, Lil' Zachery would have gotten the death penalty. And in a timely manner. No liberal judges. No liberal legal eagles. No American Criminals Liberal Union (ACLU). No twenty years of appeals. No CAIR. And any lawyer that "Zach" could have gotten would only be allowed to defend him if they had a working knowledge of "military law!!!" This eliminates any chance of a mistrial because of legal council's incompetance. Just justice, military style.
And when you weigh Zachery Moussaoui punishment, you'll see Ranoir, Zach's fate and punishment will be worst than death. The West won!, my friend. Civilization won.

Posted by: Ironman Hondo at May 5, 2006 9:59 AM

" some seeing it as an example of impartial American justice, an opportunity for closure and the end of an unhappy chapter in Muslim-American relations in the post-9/11 world."

Excuse me.......... but this chapter has not yet ended.

Please go back to your seats pupils. Class is not over yet.

Let me remind you that Osama bin Laden is still on the run hiding from the United States.

To be continued...........

Posted by: Johnathan at May 5, 2006 10:04 AM

We know where bin Laden is. Have no doubt about that. The question isn't where's Osama, it's do they really want to capture him.

When you think about it, bin Laden, the scraggly bearded, bug eyed Zawahiri, and the moron cut throat Zarqawi, who has to have help unjamming a jammed firearm, are convenient distractions for something much bigger going on.

Posted by: DCWatson at May 5, 2006 10:11 AM

on Michael Savage's radio show yesterday, he said the two lawyers representing Moussaoui cannot be googled, no information can be found on these two. like there is a conspiraacy by the courts and lawyers.
also a guest who runs some consulting company had ties with GOP, talks plain truth about Islam.. and that from what he says, the GOP know the truth, but for some reason he believe that Bush really believe you can deal with some of these countyrs. although he supported the war, that Bush is becoming too soft to deal with these terrorist sponsoring countries. says in first term was more accessable to both Bush and rest of GOP, 2nd term has become more like a Chamberlain. this guest is trying to press for air attacks to get iran in line. hope his stragedy wins. l got to get his name. l was on the way home 8 hours of driving, so too tired to get name down. but was very impressed with this man's openness and frankness of islam.

Posted by: Lulu at May 5, 2006 10:13 AM

No matter what the outcome, we will have lost either way in the eyes of the crazed Muslims. If he lives, he won and we lost; if he dies, he won and we lost –there is no winning anything when it comes to the Muslim’s mindset.

We could go into any Islamic country, wipe out their armed forces, destroy their abilities to defend themselves, run rampant all over their territory and then when we finally decide we had enough playing around in their sandbox and decide to leave, they’ll simply gather around the bombed husks of buildings dancing, singing, and handing out candy to children praising Allah because they were the mighty victors and repelled the invaders from their lands. There simply is NO winning when it comes to the Muslims –when they’re face-down in the sand with a boot on their back and a rifle to the back of their head, they can still somehow miraculously find a way to claim victory and their idiot brothers in their religion will agree they’ve won.

When are we going to hand them all over a victory by annihilating them? When are we going to finally allow them to claim their victory over the glass-lined crater of Mecca?

Posted by: illustr8rg8r at May 5, 2006 10:17 AM

So he won by pretending he wanted to die but really was wanting life in prison? And we lost by wanting him to die and he got life in prison? One tricky Muslim.

Posted by: JanuaryMan at May 5, 2006 10:32 AM

"America, you lost. I won," crowed Moussaoui after the verdict. And American Muslim advocacy groups are glad of it.

From MSNBC, with thanks to all who sent this in:

Muslim-American groups reacted favorably to Thursday’s formal sentencing of convicted terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui, some seeing it as an example of impartial American justice, an opportunity for closure and the end of an unhappy chapter in Muslim-American relations in the post-9/11 world.

Following the jury's recommendation, U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema sentenced Moussaoui to six life terms without the chance of parole.

“Honestly, we haven't been commenting on the case because we don’t see him as representing Muslims,” said Rabiah Ahmed, spokeswoman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington-based civil rights and advocacy group.

Sure, Rabiah. After all, he's not a moderate like you folks.

“Moussaoui’s actions were clearly against the teaching of Islam,” she said....

Really? Do tell, Rabiah. Moussaoui quoted Qur'an at his trial to explain his positions. Rather than just quoting Qur'an 5:32, the prohibition on killing innocents, and thinking that makes your case, why not address the verses he referred to, and show why he used them wrongly? This would be a terrific step in the right direction -- an opportunity for you to do something to convince mujahedin to stop waging war in the name of Islam. I know it's much tougher to convince them that Islam is peaceful than it is to convince non-Muslims (and why is that, exactly?), but I know you'll be in there pitching.

Al-Awan said the life sentence showed other nations the basic fairness of the American judicial system, and undercut any bid on Moussaoui’s part to be executed and perceived as a martyr for Islamic or terrorist causes.

“They’ve taken the air out of that balloon,” al-Awan said.

"This sends a message all over the world that America is a just country and doesn’t have to put a person to death in order to impart the consequences for terrorism.”

The above comments are a simple reminder that the American Muslim community is simply trying to "kiss the toes " of the non-Muslim community in the USA because they know that non-Muslims will forever distrust them.

Also either way, weither Moussaoui got life or the death penelty, is a no win situation for the American people, because the TRUTH is, we are weak in the eyes of the Muslims.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at May 5, 2006 10:36 AM

Lulu:

You can listen to that segment you desribed on my latest blog entry. :)

Posted by: Foehammer at May 5, 2006 10:42 AM

One thought for this morning: Never forget that it is part of the Islamic ideology for them to actively mislead and lie to their enemies. None of these Islamic "moderates" can be trusted. They clearly never actually come out and prove anything. It is just one big shell game.

I just laugh at the same Muslim "snow-blowers" that we have been hearing from since 9/11. CAIR and others like that organization all have the very same agenda -- to Islamicize the world. And how do I know that?

That ALSO is a directive of the Qur'an.

As Hugh stated: there is no "end" to this. No end until we start seeing the truth, at least.

Posted by: Foehammer at May 5, 2006 10:45 AM

If he wins he wins and if he loses he wins. This is BS!

Posted by: JanuaryMan at May 5, 2006 10:51 AM

What it all comes down to folks, is that Islam's reputation in the USA is forever muddied.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at May 5, 2006 10:53 AM

Mouse has probably already been thinking...I've been a bad bad boyyyyy. He'll crack. May not be today and may not be tomorrow. But, since allah can't save him and George won't, and no immams to keep the fervor up, he'll start to curse allah. Give him time.

Posted by: freewoman at May 5, 2006 11:27 AM

Oh, and they should point mecca to the west. So his rear would face it instead.

Posted by: freewoman at May 5, 2006 11:28 AM

OT
John A muhammad was shocked (shocked I tell you!) when he and Malvo were arrested for the Beltway snipings.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194356,00.html

Posted by: Carolyn2 at May 5, 2006 12:05 PM

Lulu & Foehammer,

I just heard the interview (thanks Foehammer for posting it on your site) you referred to. Its great to hear people who aren't afraid to speak the truth.

Posted by: Razdan at May 5, 2006 12:09 PM

Sharia law would require that Moussaoui be put to death, if indeed he is guilty of murdering innocent people. So, if CAIR and other Muslims believe that he is in fact guilty of murdering innocent people, then why do they not also believe, with strong conviction, that Moussaoui be put to death? In fact, they should be lamenting the fact that he only got a life sentence; this sentence is entirely out of proportion with the justice of Sharia.

Let us say that Moussaoui were a Jew guilty of murdering Muslims in Mecca. What would be the only just sentence in the minds of Muslims? Of course, such a person would not even get to trial. He would be brutally murdered, his corpse desecrated on the spot. And would Muslims anywhere in the world protest the treatment of such a person?

The hypocricy of CAIR and Muslim attitudes toward Moussaoui should shake those who believe in 'moderate Islam' and make them wonder about what is going on. But it won't, of course. The hypocricy will not be noticed.

For so-called 'moderate Muslims' to say that Moussaoui isn't representative of Muslims generally says nothing about attitudes toward the justice of his cause, and the justice of what he did. Very few Muslims are violent mujahedin actively working to kill Infidels in the Dar al Harb; that does not mean, of course, that very few Muslims do not support the cause and admire mujahedin like Moussaoui. Holding hypocritical attitudes towards his sentence would be entirely consistent with this like-mindedness. "He is one of us, a member of the umma. He just went a little too far, that's all. So don't kill him. Show mercy. That will make you, the Infidel state, appear well in the eyes of Muslims. That will put you in the proper place. Not as an opposer of Muslims, who fight in the way of Allah to advance the cause of Islam around the world, but as a dhimmi nation ripe to receive the truth, the message of the Prophet, in peaceful ways. So open yourselves to da'wa, and we will not kill you. Don't fight back, please, that will only make us more like Moussaoui and it will be your fault."

Posted by: JTF at May 5, 2006 12:38 PM

Moussaoui 'won', says he. Even if he did, he's in prison and we're not. Muslims have a pretty warped sense of victory it would seem. Besides, doesn't everyone ultimately lose with Islam?

Well, if this creep DID 'win' (although I can't imagine how for the life of me) at least we can be sure that while he's in jail he'll get it in the end....

Posted by: pythagoras at May 5, 2006 12:44 PM

JTF,

"Not as an opposer of Muslims, who fight in the way of Allah to advance the cause of Islam around the world, but as a dhimmi nation ripe to receive the truth, the message of the Prophet, in peaceful ways. So open yourselves to da'wa, and we will not kill you. Don't fight back, please, that will only make us more like Moussaoui and it will be your fault."

This is a forum to post about issues involving jihad. Please do not preach Islam to us, okay.
Thank you.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at May 5, 2006 1:10 PM

... as long as hundreds of the "authentic" (as winnowed by al-Bukhari and Muslim) exist...

In your opinion, which version is the most truly representative in English translation?

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at May 5, 2006 1:22 PM

Quotation marks mean less and less these days, I know.

Posted by: JTF at May 5, 2006 1:29 PM

bigcatgirl13106:

I'm pretty sure JTF was being ironic and quoting a Muslim religious leader.

Posted by: Foehammer at May 5, 2006 1:33 PM

undercut any bid on Moussaoui’s part to be executed and perceived as a martyr for Islamic or terrorist causes.

I say give the jihadists all the martyrs they want. Give them so many martyrs, they don't know what to do with them all. Let their cup runneth over with martyrs. Let's do them a spiritual favor, and make every single jihadist a martyr.

Posted by: special_guest at May 5, 2006 1:59 PM

I am disturbed by the posts calling for the genocide of Muslims. Those who have never faced their enemy down the barrel of a gun have no right to be so cavalier.

Posted by: DesertDawgN29 at May 5, 2006 1:59 PM

HONESTLY, we haven't been commenting on the case because we don’t see him as representing Muslims,” said Rabiah Ahmed, spokeswoman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

When someone says: "HONESTLY" wonder when they were lying before, are lying now or will lie in the future!

Posted by: David England at May 5, 2006 2:00 PM

As an afterthought to my post above: I think such remarks do us all a serious disservice in that they provide ammunition for those conducting jihad. Certain posts need to be removed immediately

Posted by: DesertDawgN29 at May 5, 2006 2:02 PM

JTF has been a poster here at JW/DW since the inception of JW/DW. He is a noted anti-jihadist.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at May 5, 2006 2:04 PM

Alarmed Pig Farmer said

thinker, how much time you pull in the Big House?

Can't speak for thethinker, but I've been in a federal prison (long story), and he's right. It's not like the Jean Claude Van Damme movies or Shawshank Redemption (great movie though) with rusty bars and dripping water and some guy playing a harmonica. No rapes, no sadistic guards, and few escape or murder attempts.

It's more like being stuck in a clean, modern hospital for a long time. Try making an interesting movie out of that. Moussaoui got better than he deserved, but as long as the bacteria is isolated, we can consider it a victory.

Posted by: special_guest at May 5, 2006 2:15 PM

Gee, DesertDawgN29. Which comments are those, my sensitive little friend? Something like "I say give the jihadists all the martyrs they want."?

You wouldn't be saying that "jihadists" is equivalent to "Muslims", would you? Because that would make you a racist. Why would you make a leap of logic like that?

Posted by: special_guest at May 5, 2006 2:25 PM

I hope he lives a very long life, nothing to do but think about what a screwball he is. Let him wait for his 72 brides for as long as possible. No cell mate, no tv, no koran, no more speaches, no nothing but time. Lots and lots of time. Slowly his brain will rot.

Posted by: Ronin at May 5, 2006 3:26 PM

The big thing that the liberal establishment, and (unfortunately) plenty of conservatives and middle-grounders, don't understand about Islam is this: the only reason we don't, as a majority, view Islam yet as an enemy, is because a few hundred years passed where the might of Europe suddenly advanced so quickly and suprisingly due to the advent of gunpowder and other military technologies, that the Caliphate had to play the possum. This really first started when Napolean sailed into the harbors of Egypt. And, even more importantly, up until the First World War, the Middle East was fairly hidden from the rest of the world and vice versa. Sure, information could flow, but very slowly. And the Caliphate and the Arabs made some very bad alliances that further weakened the power of Islam and eventually lead to the crumbling of the Caliphate itself. And it is the Caliphate that gives the orders to strike offensively for jihad and Islam, so without it, they have been a snake without a head.

But this is changing.

Things started reversing during the 20th century with the infusion of oil money (in huge part thanks to the unwitting efforts of American oil companies who did most of the heavy work for the shieks) and the availability of mass, global communications (i.e. TV, radio, records, book printing, and now the internet). So, you see, now we are starting to get a taste of what Islam has always had in store. Call it a "hibernation period" if you'd like, but Islam has never altered fundamentally. The Qur'an has never changed. The only thing that differed over the past 400 years was our general perception of the Middle East and Islam because a few generations went by without too many Christians or Jews worldwide having to suffer under the yoke of the Muslims. That and the fact that we were far too busy fighting each other! But, this was not the case for parts of India and that is why Hindus that I have spoken to do not hide their open disdain for Muslims!

Such open disdain is fermenting in the West now. As more and more of us become AWARE of the facts and realize that the war has never ended, we will know that it is now up to us to fight. Yes, fight this enemy. No looking for ways to appease them, coddle them, make them like us -- history shows that this is pure idiocy to attempt. You can not reason with zealots that are willing to see their own children blow themselves up for their cause!

The media is comprised of many dangerous idiots. So are our governments. But I predict that you will see a backlash in the coming few years that is going to make the idiots run for either cover or the nearest bookstore. Because like it or not, you can not deny truth forever in a free-thinking, free-speaking circle of societies like we have built in the Western World.

A sense a reckoning is on the way.

Posted by: Foehammer at May 5, 2006 3:28 PM

edit: I sense a reckoning is on the way. (Damn, and I was on a roll, too. LOL)

Posted by: Foehammer at May 5, 2006 3:31 PM

Bikhaatirkum Islam, Bikhaatirkum!

Posted by: Ronin at May 5, 2006 3:38 PM

By the time mouse gets out, virgins, women, boys and jihad will be the LAST things on his mind.

Posted by: freewoman at May 5, 2006 4:25 PM

As a Canadian I observed this trial as having some interest since 24 of us died that day from the death-cult called Islam.

I can only say that my reaction to the event is to forgives Muslims to show them Gods love and how jesus can even forgive them.
The plan by Muhammed was to create division and breed hatred to spead harm and continue the wars to justify looking to the "False-Prophet"
for peace under Shariah-law and Allah's submission.

I will not let Islam fill me with hate or take away my peace , Moussuoui is a shell of a man with no guilt of shame for creating orphans and murdering Gods Children for Allah's cause.
Don't worry , Allah will pay for every murder he incited by filling the followers with hate for their brothers and sisters, and Hooper will have to answer for promoting the murders by joining in this charade that islam=peace.

For someone that CAIR claimed wasn't a Muslim, CAIR sure spent a lot of time recently
excusing away his behaviour as not a true practise of Islam.
Again CAIR fails to denounce the terrorist , only denounce the act of terrorism as un-Islamic.

Jesus even loves and forgives the Muslims.

Posted by: ala-sux at May 5, 2006 4:39 PM

Foehammer, Carolyn2,

Sorry to mistake JTF for a jihadist. Since I do not see him post too often here at Jihadwatch.org, I had to be cautous when I looked at the end of the posting and had seen what I though was a call to become Muslim or something of that nature. So that is why the response. I accept my responsibility. Take care.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at May 5, 2006 5:11 PM

JTF,

Sorry for mistaking what was coming from a Muslim spokesperson for what I thought you had posted. Since I do not see you often here, I thought you were a Muslim trying to have posters here become Muslim. Bad me. Take care.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at May 5, 2006 5:16 PM

bigcatgirl13106:

Hey, I've made the same kind of mistake in the past myself. No harm done. In the torrent of communications in this mad world, it's sometimes very easy to get caught up in something out-of-context before we realize what's really the heart of the matter.:)

Posted by: Foehammer at May 5, 2006 5:35 PM

Ronin said

I hope he lives a very long life, nothing to do but think about what a screwball he is.

Moussaoui will have a very long, safe, comfortable, and boring life from here on out. And it's all on our tab, including medical and dental coverage as he gets older. I will think of him when I am elderly and deciding whether to pay for groceries or medicine. Hopefully he will live to see the end of the dream of a global caliphate.

Posted by: special_guest at May 5, 2006 6:06 PM

The 'Muslim spokesperson' above was my voice trying to speak probable thoughts in the irrational, hypocritical minds of many 'moderate Muslims', who publically disown him.

And the implication: The spirit of apparently 'peaceful' da'wa and blatantly violent jihad are one; the domination of Islam is the goal, the Qur'an, Hadith and Sira the inspirations, and the fanatical, fatalistic, enduring will to bring about that domination is the same. Moussaoui, CAIR, and all Muslims who view this life sentence in a positive light are on the same page, aiming for the same thing, drawing strength from the same or similar sources, only the means differ.

Hence, the importance of Hugh's article above.

Posted by: JTF at May 5, 2006 6:09 PM

I'm also curious as to why people give any credence to Moussaoui's claims that he "won". He would have made the same statement whether his sentence was life, death, 6 months or 5000 years.The reality is he's goings to a Supermax prison where the worst of the worst are held. He'll be in solitary confinement 23 hours a day with 1 hour of exercise in chains each day.Supermax prisoners are forbidden to have any contact including "eye" contact with other prisoners.Mousasoui will also not be allowed to talk to any media. While death or a trial in front a military tribunal would have been preferred this is not a bad outcome for a civilian court.That's why Moussaoui's mother and lawyers are trying to get him transferred to the French penal system.As his life at the Supermax will be completely controlled by the infidels everyday 24 hours a day forever. A side benefit of the Moussaoui verdict is that this should discourage the idea that this scum should be tried in the US judicial system. Trials of "enemy combatants" should be held at Gitmo before military tribunals.Under military rules even if the defendant is acquitted he can still be held for the duration of the war.

Posted by: Roxane at May 5, 2006 7:00 PM

I am disturbed by the posts calling for the genocide of Muslims. Those who have never faced their enemy down the barrel of a gun have no right to be so cavalier.

It's notable that you didn't quote his call for genocide, because he made none. He said if they come at us with jihad, then give them martydom, a reasonable and measured statement that is common sensical, not cavalier.

MO HIJABS MO SELF-CENSORHIP HATCHET JOBS MO MO WIDE OPEN DOOR KNOBS

So long as we're dealing with pressure to self-censor (key words: "disturbed"
"concerned" "offensive" "you have no right" and the like)...

... When one side of a public discourse is allowed to speak freely and the other side is not, a one-sided "ideology drift" is imposed by which the prerogate gradually pushes the self-censored one out of the public mind, along with his information and ideas that he brought to the table.

In Desert Dawg's admonishment above, the prerogate is the Moslem and the self-censored one is the Infidel with sufficient balls to exercise his 1st Amendment right to free speech.

This is the re-agent that helps fictive realities form. Desesrt Dawg's attempt to impose self-censorship in matters Islam is what helped the Islam Fictive Reality --- the most powerful and dangerous one on earth today --- to form.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at May 5, 2006 9:08 PM

6 life terms for one person. lol. ridiculous

Posted by: rainbow-colours at May 5, 2006 10:10 PM

How many future hostages will be taken in order to "free" the mouse.
Posted by: Peter at May 5, 2006 09:18 AM
+++++++++++

Lets hope they kidnap thousands in America to get the mouse free starting with the kennedy clan so we can get war truely underway.

mouse bubba and bubba's friends are waiting for you.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost and the cost will be immense.

Posted by: Texican at May 5, 2006 10:30 PM

He loved the attention and now it is over. Rot slowly. Even if the french protest and demand you serve in one of thier jails, you will not know about it. What does he have 40+ years to wonder where his muslim brothers went and why they didn't get him out? 40+ years to figure out the infidels won. Lol, rot. At least he will be amoung the last of the muslims.

Posted by: Ronin at May 5, 2006 10:51 PM

40 years in prison on taxpayers' money??

This site is awesome.

Posted by: uspatriot1488 at May 5, 2006 11:04 PM

He will suffer much more if he has no media. Let him rot. Slowly.

Posted by: Ronin at May 5, 2006 11:25 PM

What about 40 years in prison and execute him afterwards?

Posted by: uspatriot1488 at May 5, 2006 11:34 PM

uspatriot I feel that way but he wants a quick death or to reqruit others. Leave him alone and he loses power, let him rot. No death at infidel hands = no virgins, He lost. He can rot in hell right next to mohamad.

Posted by: Ronin at May 5, 2006 11:40 PM

agreed

Posted by: uspatriot1488 at May 5, 2006 11:50 PM

We are on the same side patriot, I am just waiting my my chance to beat mohamad. When I get to hell his punishment starts. He has a few things I want to discuss with him.

Posted by: Ronin at May 6, 2006 12:02 AM

ronin, that could be fun. I'd help you, but I'll go to heaven. lol

Posted by: uspatriot1488 at May 6, 2006 12:03 AM

Do me a favor and drop down a beer ever now and again. I'm going to work up a thirst beating on that clowns noggin.

Posted by: Ronin at May 6, 2006 12:07 AM

bigcatgirl13106, don't worry about it. I made a similar mistake at LGF and felt terrible. I understand your zeal.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at May 6, 2006 12:43 AM

If the terrorists at CAIR like the verdict,you must know it was a bad decision,one that will reflect poorly on America`s will to fight islam.

Posted by: adela at May 6, 2006 1:09 AM

That's the problem, Muslims might very well take or kill hostages in order to free him. It also costs the taxpayers to feed,clothe and provide medical care for him. The best thing to do to him or any Muslim terrorist is execute them and bury them encased in pig skin with a star of David and a cross around their neck with some anti-Muhammad or anti-Allah remarks drawn on them or their coffin. Muslims believe pork is unclean and they would not go to heaven and have all those virgins if they were buried in pig skin. It would take away the will for martyrdom since they wouldn't be going to paradise. This would set an example to all would-be terrorists. Also, even better, you could cremate them encased in pig skin. Same thing only cheaper and Muslims aren't supposed to be cremated. Also, taxpayers wouldn't have to support him and others for the rest of their lives.

Posted by: corli at May 6, 2006 6:51 AM

Yours is the best post corli. Muslims would never raise jihad hell again if that happened. PC and Islam are mental disorders. ;)

Posted by: julissamar at May 7, 2006 4:02 AM