You don't recognize Israel?

Let me help ya.

Israel is that country that's been kickin' yer mohammedan asses for nigh on sixty years now.

That help?

Posted by: Eisenhund at May 8, 2006 2:39 PM

I agree with this goon when he says that the European countries helped the "palestinian issue."
Some Europeans, like old Quisling, helped the "palestinians" by helping in the Holocaust, in which they were aided by Haj Amin el-Husseini and other Arabs/Muslims, including the Bagdad mob that massacred an estimated 600 Jews in the Farhud of 1941, at this season of year, on the Shavu`ot holiday.

Posted by: Eliyahu at May 8, 2006 2:41 PM

Let me get this straight Hammas wants Israel to get out of all Muslim lands , don't they claim everything as their land? What exactly would Hammas leave for Israel? What would happen if Isreal just started to say the samethings back to the Palistinians that they are saying to them.

Posted by: elad at May 8, 2006 2:42 PM

Remember, these guys were elected. That is the primary danger of democracy in the middle east. Perhaps we should've expounded on the idea of a Constitutional Rebublic, where there is rule of the law, not Democracy where there is rule of the mob.

Posted by: Thunder Pig at May 8, 2006 2:45 PM

... if any British officials are reading this

What the people who created "Londonistan"? One of their many crimes against the British people - and, in this case, against others, too.

Here's today's NRO interview with Melanie Phillips:

A Friendly Warning: Melanie Phillips on London’s identity crisis

Posted by: Yojimbo at May 8, 2006 2:47 PM

Unfortunately, Europeans are not the only ones whose wishful thinking is causing them to backslide into appeasing Hamas. Here's an excerpt from an article Jimmy Carter just wrote in the International Herald Tribune; my own comments are in brackets:

Jimmy Carter: Punishing the innocent is a crime
International Herald Tribune
SUNDAY, MAY 7, 2006

"Innocent Palestinian people are being treated like animals, with the presumption that they are guilty of some crime. Because they voted for candidates who are members of Hamas, the United States government has become the driving force behind an apparently effective scheme of depriving the general public of income, access to the outside world and the necessities of life....
"With all their faults [!!!], Hamas leaders have continued to honor a temporary cease-fire, or hudna, during the past 18 months, and their spokesman told me that this 'can be extended for two, 10 or even 50 years if the Israelis will reciprocate.' Although Hamas leaders have refused to recognize the state of Israel while their territory is being occupied, Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh has expressed approval for peace talks between Abbas and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert of Israel. He added that if these negotiations result in an agreement that can be accepted by Palestinians, then the Hamas position regarding Israel would be changed."

http://tinyurl.com/k7xq5

["With all their faults...."
I couldn't make up stuff like this. If you read the rest of Carter's article in the above link, you will see that he doesn't even mention Hamas' identity as a terrorist organization. In fact, he doesn't use words like "terrorist" and "terrorism" at all.]

Posted by: Steven L. at May 8, 2006 2:55 PM

How does one understand Jimmy Carter? What is his idea of what he is doing in the world? I think I understand Pat Buchanan, who tries to keep America out of entanglements; but Carter speaks to more universal themes, how "Palestinians are treated like animals", etc.

Posted by: StillBreathing at May 8, 2006 3:15 PM

Jimmy Carter is:
1)a Southerner
2)stuck in the '70s
3)a man who does not understand change
4)of limited vision
5) someone who does not grasp that there are other tactics besides negotiation
6) someone who doesn't learn from his own experience
7)a man who keeps on retaining the same speech and newspaper article writers, or cloning them.

'Nuff said.

Posted by: HaMalach at May 8, 2006 3:31 PM

elad

I hope you remember or read the Talmud.

It's our land. All of it. Promised by G-d, and the English. Hey, what better credentials could we have? We just have to behave righteously and according to our level of intelligence.

Posted by: HaMalach at May 8, 2006 3:35 PM

What does one expect from the WORST president the USA has ever had? Keep growin those legumes Jimmy and stay the hell out of politics!

Posted by: Siciliano at May 8, 2006 3:36 PM

The word "punishment" is peculiar here. Why is it assumed that Infidels owe Muslims -- in this case that subset now known as the "Palestinians" -- a living? On what theory, other than the theory of the Jizyah payment made to fulfill one's duty to Muslim masters, so that the non-Muslims may continue to be "protected people"?

Posted by: Hugh at May 8, 2006 4:06 PM

I was about to ask the same thing.

How does not giving someone something they haven't earned amount to "punishment"? The West owes it to them to support them because they breed like rodents? Because they're too stupid, venal, and lazy to do anything constructive with their time?

Those oxygen thieves want money, make 'em work for it like everyone else.

Posted by: Eisenhund at May 8, 2006 4:19 PM

"I think I understand Pat Buchanan, who tries to keep America out of entanglements; but Carter speaks to more universal themes, how "Palestinians are treated like animals"
-- from a posting above

Pat Buchanan and Jimmy Carter intersect at one point. That one point is their shared lack of sympathy, hostility even, for Israel. Each suffers from a pathological mental condition that presents differently. But that condition is detectable. It can be properly identified. See Gavin Langmuir, see Malcolm Hay, see Leon Poliakoff,

Posted by: Hugh at May 8, 2006 4:44 PM

Ham what does Carter being a Southerner have to do with his being a moonbat?

Posted by: fireangel at May 8, 2006 5:38 PM

Israel, the enemy is beating on the new wall, do you hear them???

How much muslim peace can you stand Israel???

How many more dead will it take, Israel, before you act???

If you wait for the Americas federal government for help, it will be to late and the enemy will be inside the walls.

Our prayers go with you.

The Texican.

Posted by: Texican at May 8, 2006 5:41 PM

"...because simply it is wrong and irrational. It is unreasonable to punish the Palestinian people for their democratic choice."
It is not unreasonable at all to punish the Palestinian people for their choice. They knew what they were electing, so now they can deal with the consequences. That's democracy.

Posted by: Canadian Infidel at May 8, 2006 6:19 PM

Isn't it the ethical thing for Carter to renounce his citizenship in this worst of all countries? His soul would be cleaner and my soul would be at peace. My ears would be at peace too. I'm getting irritated by his prattle.

Prattle | Prat"tle |
v. t.
To utter as prattle; to babble; as, to prattle treason.
--Addison.
1913 Webster

Posted by: Mike H. at May 8, 2006 6:20 PM

from Jimmy Carter's (pathetic) opinion piece: >There is no doubt that Israelis and Palestinians both want a durable two-state solution...

The Pals do want a two-state solution, as long as Israel simply relocates out of the Middle East. How about northern Montana? I'm sure Jimmy would approve.

Posted by: Xero G at May 8, 2006 8:39 PM

It was wrong in the first place to give the Pali-Arabs financial support, especially when Ara-fish was still around playing his game. Now they think they are entitled to it, because they had a ´democratic´election.

Whats worse is that Jimmah just won´t go away and keeps insulting the world with his obstinate stupidity. Its embarrassing, isn´t it?

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at May 8, 2006 9:17 PM

An entry in Webster's Fourth International Dictionary which became available on-line in 2022:

"Carterism.

An extreme form of holier-than-thou self-righteousness, prompted by a manic desire for self-aggrandizement, and expressed most notably in appeasement of those who, in the late 20th and early 21st centuries, actively engaged in the Jihad of "pen, speech." A term derived from the name of the 40th President of the United States, James Earl Carter. Initally some used the term neutrally, but it became a term of abuse after the surprise Muslim attack of December 25, 2016. That attack followed by a few weeks the coup d'etat of the French army, led by a female commander known only by her nom de guerre of "Anna Mabry," and thus began that eleven-month conflict known variously to historians as the Christmas War, the December War, the Great Jihad, and,as it was called by the non-Muslims of Europe who with American, Israeli, and Russian help destroyed or drove out the invaders and all their local collaborators, as the Great Dhimmi Revolt. The oilfields of Arabia were seized, and the revenues from them used to compensate Infidels, mostly butnot exclusively in Europe, for years of humiliation, degradation, and physical insecurity caused by Muslim threats and demands. In addition, war reparations were paid for out of the oil revenues, especially for the extensive damage done to residences, government office buildings, churches, schools, and in some cases, works of art following the attacks on many museums. The reparations will continue until 2050, by which time it is expected that both the need for, and the continued supply of, Saudi oil, will have come to an end.

The term "Carterism" has now become obsolete, though it remains of historical interest. Its first recorded use was at a posting on May 8, 2006, at the website Jihad Watch."

Posted by: Hugh at May 8, 2006 9:24 PM

"It's our land. All of it. Promised by G-d, and the English. Hey, what better credentials could we have? We just have to behave righteously and according to our level of intelligence."

-Posted above

RE: Promised by "g-d". Prove that there is a "Jewish" god; that he is yours (and yours alone); that he is not the same stupid god of the Moslems; that "the land" is yours; that you are "chosen" and worthy due to British promises, whereas others are not. I am sick of religious fanatics. Like Moslems, some Jews fall into that category too.

Many on this site don't believe in any compromise with Moslems at anytime. That is ridiculous and contradicts real politik. Many believe that there are no moderate Moslems and that Moslems could never negotiate. Not all of them are all rabid beasts. While I concede that Islam is utter lunacy, most Moslems are apostates anyway. The solution is to exterminate the extremists.

Please note that I am not suggesting negotiating with HAMAS, but negotiating with the Arabs you must. NEWS FLASH: There is nothing inherently sacred or special about the nation of Israel.

Posted by: Kafir Nonbeliever at May 8, 2006 9:47 PM

The solution is to exterminate the extremists.
Posted by: Kafir Nonbeliever at May 8, 2006 09:47 PM
++++++++++++++++

If you would separate the extremists from the others, it would be done, but I do not know how you can tell the difference?????

Posted by: Texican at May 8, 2006 10:09 PM

"Please note that I am not suggesting negotiating with HAMAS, but negotiating with the Arabs you must." Kafir Nonbeliever

Why should we negotiate with people who would kill us??? Who celebrate our pain?? Their worldview goes counter to mine. I say let them eat cake or let the house of saud feed them.

"NEWS FLASH: There is nothing inherently sacred or special about the nation of Israel." Kafir Nonbeliever

Yes perhaps Israel (although they won fare and square) was a mistake in the beginning but that does not matter anymore. It is the world we live in. They are a modern civilized culture. Of course they have a few ultra-nutz but so does every modern civilized culture. They are a SMALL minority. Not the case with Islam (and most arabs are muslim) which is neither civilized or modern.

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at May 8, 2006 10:43 PM

""Jimmy Carter is:
1)a Southerner
2)stuck in the '70s
3)a man who does not understand change
4)of limited vision
5) someone who does not grasp that there are other tactics besides negotiation
6) someone who doesn't learn from his own experience
7)a man who keeps on retaining the same speech and newspaper article writers, or cloning them.
'Nuff said."" Posted by: HaMalach

So True but.....

George W. Bush is:

1) a Southerner
2) stuck in the '60s cultural war
3) a man who does not understand change
4) of limited vision
5) someone who does not grasp that there are other tactics in general
6) someone who doesn't learn from his own experience
7) a man who needs speech and newspaper article writers and can't clone them becuase he is against that!!!!

I know some differences but I can't help myself.

My Worst Prez list

1a Jimmy Carter
1b George W. Bush

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at May 8, 2006 10:52 PM

KFIR NON-BELIEVER: "There is nothing inherently sacred or special about the nation of Israel."

Certainly there is nothing "sacred" about Israel...unless one is a Jew which I am not. But there IS something "special" about Israel. The circumstances of its birth, of its tenacious survival, and of its democratic system...all inside a realm of murderous hostility...is certainly unique in modern human history and to be admired.

Posted by: Cornelius at May 8, 2006 10:56 PM

believe that there are no moderate Moslems and that Moslems could never negotiate. Not all of them are all rabid beasts. While I concede that Islam is utter lunacy, most Moslems are apostates anyway. The solution is to exterminate the extremists. posted by kafir nonbeliever

I would be afraid that these moderate muslims, even the Saudi's, would turn on a dime and slice your throat, drill holes in you and then behead you. I really don't care that the mohammedons like a lot of sex, they can catch all kinds of diseases for all I care. But they're still mohammedons. Taught to hate, kill, rape, enslave you without any second thought. It may seem they are apostates, but unless they denounce islam, they're still mohammedons.

As far as sorting them out...well....let God do that. kaPOW!!

Posted by: freewoman at May 9, 2006 12:23 AM

Please forward this link to ANYBODY who supports muslims, whether palestinian, irani, iraqi, pakistani, saudi, egyptian, etc.

voi.org/books/negaind/ch2.htm
They have killed 600 million Hindus in their 1000 year old aggression. There are several links that have the images through the centuries of muslim barbarism on this site.But for starters, this link is enough.

People who forget history are condemned to repeat it.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at May 9, 2006 1:16 AM

"but negotiating with the Arabs you must. NEWS FLASH: There is nothing inherently sacrid or special about the nation of Israel"

Nonsense nonbeliever - you are profoundly wrong on both counts!!!! Maybe Israel isn't sacrid and special to morons like you, but it is sacrid and special TO THE JEWS - and secondly - they are under NO obligation to negotiate with the Arabs!!! NONE!!! PERIOD!!!

Posted by: champ at May 9, 2006 2:20 AM

-Cornelius,

Kafir is the poster. Kfir is Hebrew for "lion cub". Its also an Israeli fighter/attack jet.

Posted by: Eisenhund at May 9, 2006 2:30 AM

The poster above who claims ´that most Muslims are apostates anyway´- where is proof?

Where is that ´moderate muslim´that everyone is looking for when, after the right questions are being asked, the ´moderate´rejects this false western label and turns into the full blown disease for which the only cure for us is defense & isolation from the Mohammedan camp!

As for Israel not being a miracle, for Israel having been established against all odds against 3 wars and two íntifadahs´, suicide bombers and rocket attacks daily, this Israel lives on a prayer and deserves every justification there is.

CNN´s bleeding heart brigades this morning complained that the Pali-arabs are upset because they can no longer access Israeli hospitals and have to rely on their own, how bad is that?

Give them Jihad, give them intifadah, but don´t give them money, don´t give them weapons, don´t give anything but leave them stew in their own bile & hatred!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at May 9, 2006 2:31 AM

The poor Greeks had no idea that one fine day, terrorists are going to vote for the area commander. All the mo's voted for the area comm. , the cruellest of them all. And, of course, the president remains, the big mo, who dictated the kuran.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at May 9, 2006 4:16 AM

Neither the USA or Europe or any other country owes or has ever owed the Palestinians money. Note the use of the word punishment as someone else said. Ever notice how Muslims ALWAYS play the victim. Sorry, not buying it. The Palestinians knowingly voted Hamas in and if there are problems as a result of that, then let the Palestinians solve them. Anyway, no matter how much money the West gave them, they'll still dislike and blame the West and will stand with other Muslims against the West.

Posted by: corli at May 9, 2006 7:16 AM

The most that can be made of this letter is if W would put it up for sale on Ebay. Then some good would come of it.

Posted by: JanuaryMan at May 9, 2006 11:21 AM

KAFIR NON-BELIEVER: "There is nothing inherently sacred or special about the nation of Israel."

There is something special about Jews - their art of survival despite everything and everybody (think about 15 centuries of living in the diaspora, think 1948, think 1967 etc etc. And Jews do deserve their own country like any other nation (including Kurds) and there is something else special about Israel - it is the only Western-style democracy in the ME. I believe Isreale will win, be it with God's help and covenant or their own art of survival, intelligence and love of life. Long live Israel!

Posted by: Polish infideless at May 9, 2006 5:09 PM

The Jizyah, apparently, will be forthcoming after all. Over the objections of Infidels all over this country, our government presumes, in their name, but without their permission, to renew the Jizyah payments (but only the "humanitarian" ones) to the "Palestinians" who now are lead by Hamas (the Fast Jihad) instead of Abbas (the Slow Jihad). A disaster, every which way.

Posted by: Hugh at May 9, 2006 7:55 PM

I just finished reading that the US well resume aid to the Palestinians, I don't understand why our goverment keeps on supporting countries and there goverments that hate use. I have to agree that Jimmy Carter was the worst President that this country ever had, and all you have to do is look at his failed foreign policies, we can thank him for the current mess that we have in Iran.

Posted by: Real American at May 9, 2006 8:03 PM