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May 14, 2006

Saudi al-Qaeda members killed in Iraq

Friend and Ally Update. First the Saudis fill their minds with jihad, and then they send their security services after them if they pursue that jihad in a politically uncomfortable arena. "Saudi al-Qaeda members killed," from AFP, with thanks to Sr. Soph:

TWO members of the Saudi branch of Al-Qaeda have been killed in fighting in Iraq, militants linked to the extremist network claimed on an Internet website overnight.

"Abu Hassan al-Makki and Abu Nasser al-Chadi were being sought by the Saudi security services," the website said, giving the two men's war names. It also posted a video of the men before their alleged deaths.

If their identities are confirmed, this will be the first time that the site of the Mujaheddin Consultative Council, which specialises in issuing Al-Qaeda statements, has shown pictures of Saudians sought by the Riyadh government.

The Mujaheddin Consultative Council is a movement of Sunni militants operating under the aegis the Iraqi branch of Al-Qaeda, led by Jordan's Abu Musab al-Zarqawi....

In November 2005, the US army quoted a study carried out by the intelligence services of Saudi Arabia and other countries in the region as saying around 3,000 foreign fighters had joined forces in Iraq with local militants.

Saudis made up 12 percent of these fighters, third in number behind Algerians -- 20 percent -- and Syrians -- 18 percent, the study reportedly said.

On 22 April a man claiming to be a member of Al-Qaeda and to have escaped from a US jail in Bagram, Afghanistan, said on a video on the same website that Saudi Arabia would be the extremist network's next target after Afghanistan and Iraq.

Posted by Robert at May 14, 2006 6:11 AM
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"On 22 April a man claiming to be a member of Al-Qaeda and to have escaped from a US jail in Bagram, Afghanistan, said on a video on the same website that Saudi Arabia would be the extremist network's next target after Afghanistan and Iraq."

Did anyone watch that video-clip? The non-verifed attack on an American camp in Afghanistan.

I thought it was an absolute load of BS. The "hero" sneaked up to an American camp and filmed it, that's it. No film of the so called attack. Just woulda, coulda, shoulda. Immature bravado by wannabees. The story of apparently transporting arms and fooling the security road blocks is laughable.

One thing I think would have been certain is if they had carried out an attack they would have ended up splattered courtesy of an air-strike all over the hillside where they were.

I've seen much better and more credible bravery on Jackass.

Posted by: Turbinehead [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 14, 2006 7:15 AM

They will attack Saudi Arabia and attempt to take out there oil supplies and trash the world economy damaging all there enemies without having to engage on a large number of battlefields.

Posted by: stevenz [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 14, 2006 7:29 AM

Yet more proof that the Bush Honeypot Doctrine is working.

Posted by: DrMack [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 14, 2006 9:33 AM

If this "honeypot doctrine" is working --that is, the notion that terrorists everywhere will flock to Iraq where they will simply present themselves more easily to be killed -- then apparently word has not gotten out to those Muslims attacking Christians in the Moluccas and southern Philippines or Hindus in Bangladesh, India, and Pakistan, or Buddhists in southern Thailand. Nor has word been received by the Arab Muslims attacking the inferior (because non-Arab) Muslims of Darfur. And last one looked, there were still terrorist attacks being planned, and carried out or foiled, all over the Western world. So apparently not everyone has flown off to Iraq to be tricked by the brilliance of that "honeypot doctrine."


Not only is the Bush "doctrine" based entirely on a set of naive principles, including this idiotic belief that 1) this is a "war on terror" and nothing else and 2) "victory" in this "war on terror" is possible and 3) this "victory" in this "war on terror" will be achieved by creating in Iraq a Model, a Light Unto the Muslim Nations, that is out of a situation riven with permanent, ethnic and sectarian conflicts, exacerbated by the last few decades of Saddam Hussein's rule but in fact going back, in their sources, to the beginnings of Islam, for it was in the first century of Islam that Sunnis and Shi'a split, and it is in the very beginnings of Islam that one finds the Arab supremacism that helps explain, and justify, the monstrous treatment of the Kurds by Iraqi Arabs (and the indifference to that treatment by all the Arabs outside Iraq), and other kinds of mistreatmen have been observed with the non-Arab Muslims in Darfur, or the Berbers in Algeria.

There is no "honeypot doctrine." But there is a different kind of stickiness: it is we, the Americans, who are now stuck to the tarbaby of Iraq, because of the inability of this government to begin to comprehend the sources, the varied instruments, the scope, the full menace, of the world-wide Jihad.

There is no "honeypot" attracting all the world's "terrorists." The supply of Muslim terrorists is endlessly replenishable. In Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Saudi Arabia, everywhere. The refusal to exploit the divisions -- ethnic, sectarian, and economic -- within the camp of Islam, is a failure as great as any in the history of American foreign policy. Perhaps it is the greatest failure.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 14, 2006 9:57 AM

Where is the future of America going and what is the ultimate fate of the West?. Western Civilization has had two major collapses; one in the Roman ruled west which was in effect a necessary period to purge Europe of weakness and stagnation with the help of the Germanic spirit that overtook it; the other was the collapse of Byzantium, the greater of the two culturally, a collapse for all time, a final death blow to the Hellenic Judeo-Christian civilization in the East which continues to languish under the dictates of Shari’a without hope.

Why did one recover and the other die for all time? One could argue that the Turks were more cultured than the Gothic tribes which sacked the West…The Ottomans were a literate people with a complex administrative system which the ignorant tribal Goth lacked. However, what the Germanics lacked in cultural, administrative, and scientific terms, they soon acquired through their partnership with the Western church while the East under Shari’ a stagnated and faltered irreparably.

Coming back to America and the entire West which unless drastic measures are taken to purge it culturally, spiritually, and demographically from the destructive elements that are tolling its funerary bells, it will collapse for all-time as Byzantium has with its boned picked by the adherents of the same ideology that ruined the East.

Western economic systems live perilously at the mercy of global events, the supply of oil, its’ lifeblood, and the global communication and technological infrastructure, its’ central nervous system. The West is being brought down using a combined attack from within and without. An attack that requires little coordination for every attacker instinctively knows his/her part to play. Like an army of marauding ants purging a forest of all life, every ant knows its job, cooperating with its colony mates to overcome every obstacle, to destroy all resistance, to devour all in symphony of death. Such a swarm does not require a centralized intelligence; the plan is encoded in the genes of every ant much like the dictates of Shari’ a to conquer all for Islam (the colony) is drilled into every Muslim child and nursed with the Milk by every Muslim baby who grows up filled with hate and aggressive energy to accomplish his founding mission and bring victory to Islam and destruction to the infidels. Unless the West wakes up and cooperate in an endeavor greater in scope than any in Human history, much greater than all world wars combined… Mankind that marvelous talking ape living on a green rock spinning around a star in space will live to see all the achievements in culture and in human liberty and in science erased for all time to be swamped by a permanent world order resembling a village in seventh century Arabia.

Posted by: have_mercy [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 14, 2006 12:02 PM

Through me you pass into the city of woe:
Through me you pass into eternal pain:
Through me among the people lost for aye.

Justice the founder of my fabric mov'd:
To rear me was the task of power divine,
Supremest wisdom, and primeval love.

Before me things create were none, save things
Eternal, and eternal I endure.
All hope abandon ye who enter here.

Such characters in colour dim I mark'd
Over a portal's lofty arch inscrib'd:
Whereat I thus: Master, these words import

Dante Alighieri

Posted by: have_mercy [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 14, 2006 1:51 PM

Saudi Arabia as friend and ally--good question. I note that the men killed were being sought by the Saudi security services. It seems more likely that Saudi Arabia, that magic kingdom of oil and lecherous princes who go ape over anything blonde with a gluteus maximus, isimploding in on itself.

Posted by: Kepha [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 14, 2006 9:43 PM

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