Elsewhere, he said that his letter lists the problems of today's world, adding that the letter is also a restatement of the main message of God's prophets, which is inviting the world to peace and justice.

Describing his letter as an invitation to peace and justice, he said that it is up to the recipient of the letter to choose for a response or not, but meantime stressed that history has clearly unveiled the fate of all those who have provided negative answers to correct messages.

Referring to the achievements of his visit to Indonesia, he said Indonesians have declared their full support for Iran's stances, adding, "the hegemonic attitude of some arrogant powers has irritated all the world nations and that's why everyone is seeking a way out of the present condition, with D8 as a great power being one of such venues(mahmoud in fars news agency)

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 8:08 AM

Nothing new here folks. All the concessions are on Israel's side with no promises. The "pals" deserve nothing. They need to put their hatred aside and concentrate on getting a working economy that doesn't consist of hand outs from other nations.

The welfare payments to muslim lay abouts has to end. WE don't owe them a living. I wish our leaders would get that through their heads. IF they have enough money for bombs,weapons and ammo then they don't need help.

Posted by: fireangel at May 14, 2006 8:28 AM

I have a better idea. Let's call it the "Bullet or a Bus Ticket" plan. A free bus ticket to an Arab nation of one's choice or a bullet to the brain pan.

You know its a generous offer as the Israeli government could limit it to the "bullet" option, and ammo is much cheaper than bus fare.

Posted by: Eisenhund at May 14, 2006 8:28 AM

Describing his letter as an invitation to peace and justice, he said that it is up to the recipient of the letter to choose for a response or not, but meantime stressed that history has clearly unveiled the fate of all those who have provided negative answers to correct messages.

mahmmoud ahmadinejad in fars news agency.......why after all the clear threats.that could not be missed.i.e. israel will bw wiped off the face of earth....are his threats now veiled?

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 8:37 AM

Eisenhund is bang on target as usual. They are bleeding Israel by the death of a thousand cuts. You know what the ideal solution should be. But, our 'leaders' do not have the stomach for that. That is what is taking us down.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at May 14, 2006 8:42 AM

From the article:

"Barghouti, serving life in an Israeli jail for his involvement in the Palestinian intifada, hammered out the agreement during weeks of negotiations with imprisoned leaders of other factions."

Posted by: Zeno at May 14, 2006 8:43 AM

Look George! A bridge! C'mon Condi, let's jump before it goes away!

Posted by: witness at May 14, 2006 8:49 AM

As a Shi’ite Muslim defending a widely hated Sunni dictator, Khalil has come under heavy criticism for representing him. But she is unrepentant, claiming that Saddam in power resembled other Middle Eastern presidents with ambitions to build a strong country.

Saddam was far more interested in discussing foreign affairs with her than his own trial. “Saddam said US involvement in Iraq had bolstered Iranian military ambitions,” Khalil said. “He believes the Iranians know the United States will not attack Iran while they are entangled in the Iraqi conflict.”

u.k. times on line.on saddams lawyer...(sunni and shia on the same side)

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 9:20 AM

He also hoped for the restoration of calm, stability and compassion-based justice all throughout the world and wished further glory for the Paraguayan government and nation.
and wished further glory for the Paraguayan government and nation.....(please note the words)
He also hoped for the restoration of calm, stability and compassion-based justice all throughout the world and wished further glory for the Paraguayan government and nation.
(he talks like iran will soon rule the world)please dont dismiss him as a nut...he is a world danger

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 9:31 AM

The Palestinian government's lack of foreign funds are quickly taking it's toll. By feigning the right of Israel to exist, it's quite possible Western nations will begin sending in money again. I'm sure that's the real goal. It will probably be successful.

Posted by: Musburger at May 14, 2006 9:52 AM

Can someone confirm the part in the koran or hadiths (not sure which) where mohammed says it is perfectly acceptable to make a truce with the intention of breaking it, if it is to your advantage to do so?

I think Arafat made reference to it in one of his speeches.

Posted by: Celsius at May 14, 2006 9:58 AM

American teen wounded in Tel Aviv bombing dies
By ASSOCIATED PRESS

An American teen wounded in a suicide bombing in Tel Aviv died Sunday of organ failure, a hospital spokeswoman said.

Daniel Wultz, 16, of Weston, Fla., is to be flown home for burial on Monday, said Yael Tzuberi, a spokeswoman for the Tel Aviv Medical Center, where he was hospitalized.

Wultz and his father, Tuly, were having lunch at a Tel Aviv restaurant when a Palestinian suicide bomber detonated 5 kilograms (about 10 pounds) of explosives. Eleven people, including Wultz, died as a result of the attack.

ISLAM IS NOT PEACE,THIS IS NOT A BATTLE FOR LAND.THIS IS EVIL JUST EVIL.

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 10:14 AM

his doctor at Ichilov hospital. In addition to other things, he said that Daniel died partly because of the infections in his body caused by the poison the terrorists put on the metal pieces in the bomb...........SCREAM FROM THE ROOFTOPS,TELL ANYONE WHO LISTEN.ISLAM DOES NOT MEAN PEACE.IT MEANS EVIL JUST EVIL...THEY ARE NOT FREEDOM FIGHTERS,THEY ARE NOT NOBLE...THEY ARE DEMON LED MONSTERS.

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 10:59 AM

..."and to assure the right of return for refugees..."

I think this is the key phrase. Right of return is a euphamism for the destruction of Israel as a Jewish state. The entire statement is just typical palestinian sleight-of-hand. What they purport to give with one hand they take away with the other.

Posted by: Howard, Fine & Howard at May 14, 2006 11:08 AM

... perfectly acceptable [in Islam] to make a truce with the intention of breaking it, if it is to your advantage to do so?

On truce, see this post:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009839.php

Also see these comments by Hugh Fitzgerald:

The model for all Muslim treaty-making with Infidels is the agreement concluced by Muhammad with the Meccans, at the town, just outside Mecca, of Hudaibiyyah in 628 A.D. According to that agreement, if the Meccans allowed Muhammad and his followers into Mecca to perform the Lesser Pilgrimage (not the later hajj) once a year, Muhammad and his followers would not attack them. That treaty, known as the Treaty of al-Hudaibiyya, was to last for ten years.

During the first year, the Meccans scrupulously fulfilled their part of the bargain: Muhammad and his followers were allowed in, and performed the Lesser Pilgrimage. Six months into the second year, however, Muhammad used a pretext, involving other tribes, to break the treaty and attack the Meccans. It should be noted that although some Muslms describe that "pretext" as a real reason, most Muslim commentators gloat over Muhammad's deliberate cunning, and indicate that by his own sayings and deeds it was clear what he was going to do all along -- especially in replying to those who initially seemed to reproach him for entering into the agreement in the first place.

And he did know what he was doing. And ever since, Musilms have taken that treaty to be the model -- in duration, and in every other way -- for those "truce" treaties (not "Peace" treaties, for such are impossible) with Infidels.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011176.php#c206737

Posted by: Yojimbo at May 14, 2006 11:17 AM

ISLAM IS DEATH: Mentally if you submit, bodily if you resist, and sometimes the two together in the case of suicide bombers. The murder of Daniel Wultz speaks clearly on that.

Posted by: Canadian Infidel at May 14, 2006 11:25 AM

Remember that the Muslim Prophet Muhammad said, "War is deceit."

For some reason, that reminds me that there is a video of Andrew Bostom debating with a very smooth Muslim spokesman here:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=20542&only

Posted by: Yojimbo at May 14, 2006 11:28 AM

http://www.omdurman.org/hudna.html

Posted by: Carolyn2 at May 14, 2006 11:33 AM

Forget the Palestinians; we know who they are. Any doubts about their intentions were erased permanently by their election of the first openly terrorist government in the world. The real argument is what should Israel, the US, and the West do about them? I'd say forget the rest of the West, too: the UN, the EU, Russia, etc.: they are inept and corrupt. I'm even leery of US policy, which teeters from confrontation to accommodation to Palestinian terrorism. Israel must do whatever it must do to secure its people. It has no other obligation, and no one else will do it. If that means an end to the two-state experiment, so be it. But Israel has bled enough.

Posted by: BTL at May 14, 2006 11:37 AM

I can see Condi dancing: Look Look.. Didn't I call the benevolence that is in the heart of Islam? Even when Arafat denounced terror in English, it was a signal to Bhargouti to step-up terror, I knew, peace was lurking just under the kefia these benign / simple / poor / victims hide behind.

See George, like I said: Diplomacy, dilomacy, diplomacy.....

Posted by: Alert at May 14, 2006 11:38 AM

Is there anyone in the Israeli government who understands history! I am hoping Benjamin Netanyu (cant spell) somehow gets the country on his side! you can give up your security! l vote for giving the a choice of the bus or the bullet! bullets be permanment and cheaper!

Posted by: Lulu at May 14, 2006 11:39 AM

l meant to say "you can not give up your security".
got to get back to work, raining like cats and dogs here!

Posted by: Lulu at May 14, 2006 11:40 AM

Forget the Palestinians; we know who they are. Any doubts about their intentions were erased permanently by their election of the first openly terrorist government in the world.

Posted by BTL at May 14, 2006 11:37 AM

Yes, behind 'Palestinian' voice, it is HAMAS. A real life 'Wolf in sheep's cloathing'...........

Posted by: Alert at May 14, 2006 11:42 AM

Islam does not commend Muslims to allow the Infidels to retain some territory as long as they yield other territory. It does not say that any land once part of Dar al-Islam can ever be relinquighed. For that matter, it does not say that there is any part of Dar al-Harb that can remain forever outside Dar al-Islam. The duty of every Muslim is to engage in jihad fi sabeel Allah, Jihad in the way, in the path, of Allah, whether individually, or as part of a collective, and whether by active participation, or by supporting and protecting those who do actively participate.

Treaties can be made with Infidels, but they are not treaties that will last indefinitely. They should last, at most, 10 years, although in some cases they may be "renewed" until such time as the Muslim side is stronger, and the Infidels have become weakere -- weaker because of those very treaties they signed.

"Treaties are to be obeyed" -- Pacta sunt servanda -- is a concept in Western jurisprudence. Westen leaders need to understand it is not part of Islam. This is not a secret. They can begin with Majid Khadurri's "Law of War and Peace in Islam" and read about the accepted Muslim understanding of treaties made with Infidels.

There is no ambiguity about it. None. Treaties are not "peace" treaties but "truce" treaties. That's it.

And "war is deception." It is all laid out, by the way, in books and articles by Arab strategists. They don't hide it. They assume, and so far have assumed rightly, that the Israelis, and the Western world, will simply ignore those books and articles, will ignore what Islamic treaty-making is all about, because it is just too painful to contemplate. But what is too painful to contemplate, because it happens to be true, is exactly what must be contemplated. All Infidels must share that pain, and make policies, accordingly.

Posted by: Hugh at May 14, 2006 11:45 AM

Iran-Asefi-Letter
Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hamid-Reza Asefi said here Sunday that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's letter to his American counterpart President George W. Bush does not indicate that Iran will hold talks with the US.

Addressing domestic and foreign media in his weekly briefing, he said in response to the question whether the letter indicates that the taboo of Iran-US talks is broken, he said that in fact it was merely a message from the president of one country to his counterpart from another.

The spokesman said that in the letter, Ahmadinejad has referred to the difficulties facing the world and how to tackle them, adding that its content was reviewed by officials from the related ministries and organizations and a consensus was reached on it.

Concerning the three million population of Iranian expatriates residing overseas, he pointed to them as part of the country's body and said that the Foreign Ministry is quite persistent in defending their rights.

Asefi said that Ahmadinejad intends to write letters to the leaders of various countries, which are being planned and drawn up.
http://www.irna.ir/e...

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 12:41 PM

Israelis aren't stupid, but their leadership doesn't seem real bright either. Return to the pre Six Day War borders? They gave up the Sinai and really did not get much in return. Let's see what's left, Golan Heights and the West Bank. Syria can begin shelling Israel again and Jews will be locked out of Jerusalem. Some choice!

Posted by: Pelayo at May 14, 2006 12:52 PM

"HAMAS and other militant Palestinian groups have signed a document signalling their readiness for a peace agreement with Israel if it withdraws to the pre-Six Day War borders."

Texas might as well give itself back to Mexico, using this kind of logic.

When wars are won against, especially against aggressors, guess what Hamas -- there is a penalty to the loser and that usually constitutes loss of real estate.

This continuing farce will not end without bloodshed. We all know this in our hearts. "Palestine" is nothing more than a tool of the jihadists to massacre the Jews. If not today, tomorrow, or the next day. They just keep on applying the pressure and refuse to live in peace with Israel no matter what the bargain.

The reason that this will also never go away is because of the United Nations. The U.N. has evolved into an anti-Semitic, anti-American forum of the worst kind. We should withdraw from the United Nations immediately. This action is years overdue, in fact.

OT:

Just yesterday I unexpectedly got my hands on a copy of a very interesting book that I did a quick scan-read of:

ARAB CULTURAL AWARENESS:
58 FACTSHEETS

OFFICE OF THE DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF FOR INTELLIGENCE
US ARMY TRAINING AND DOCTRINE COMMAND
FT. LEAVENWORTH, KANSAS

Published January, 2006
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To read the Dhimmitude that is in this manual is disheartening. Our soldiers are told every single method possible to "not offend" the "Arab" but yet they keep murdering our men and women. I quickly brushed by all the expected -- how not to behave around Muslims, women, etc. and was looking for some interesting stats.

One very relevant section that I spotted was this, on Muslim Americans (Robert & Hugh, take note):

* 5-6 million Muslims live in North America.

* 2.5 million live in the US.

* States with the largest Muslim population
include: California, New York, Illinois, New
Jersey, Indiana, Michigan, Virginia, Texas,
Ohio and Maryland.

* Virtually every race, ethnicity and culture is
represented among American Muslims.

* Muslims currently outnumber Episcopalians,
Lutherans, Presbyterians, and the United
Church of Christ members in the US.

* More than 1,200 Mosques exist in the US.

* DoD reports that more than 9,000 Muslims
are on active duty in the US armed services.

---

Some of the above statistics beg question, but this is exactly as I found them in the book. However, the mystery of how many Muslims serve in the U.S. Military is now no longer.

Foehammer

Posted by: Foehammer at May 14, 2006 12:54 PM

Foehammer,

Did you say you were collecting an MP3 library?

Got this one?

I haven't heard it yet, but here it is, anyway:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2006/05/bostom_and_atla.html

Posted by: Yojimbo at May 14, 2006 12:57 PM

Yojimbo:

Yes, it is my intent to make some poignant MP3 available permanently in my Media section in the coming months. Thanks for the links.

Posted by: Foehammer at May 14, 2006 1:04 PM

Storemanager sez, refering to the Beasty Boy prez of Iran: "he talks like iran will soon rule the world"...
He does indeed. Is that just confidence, or is it a case of mistaking bravery for stupidity? He seems to be on an international outreach program with sympathetic govs. He is looking for cooperation and maybe outright help. The US especially and the west in general is under attack on numerous fronts. It's not all just Islam. Islam did not create the joke that is called the US border. You can thank global elitists for those conditions. Beasty Boy and his ilk know all about these attacks and seek to exploit them...thats why Chavez sounds like a muslim. Islam wants to convert the US to Islam and the NWO take over artists, want to enslave us to their fantasy.
Squish...right smack in the middle. An ideological burger with squashed humans in the middle...oh what a joy...suddenly, 'stop the world, I want to get off', seems like a good idea afterall. But since we cant really get out of this place, and being squished is not acceptable, we will have to fight our way out.
Mentally, physically, whatever works. It's a strange concept that freedom is hard to get and harder to maintain. Once we have it, it is worth defending. Beasty Boy wants to snatch our freedom from us, he wants to present it to Mahdi as an offering...a burnt one...only in his most psychotic fantasy is this possible, but that wont stop him and his fellow insanes from trying.

Posted by: duh_swami at May 14, 2006 1:12 PM

Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hamid-Reza Asefi said here Sunday that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's letter to his American counterpart George W Bush was written from a position of strength.

Asefi, who was speaking to domestic and foreign reporters at his weekly press conference, made the remark while pointing to Ahmadinejad's letter to Bush, which was submitted by Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki on May 8 to the Swiss embassy, which takes care of US interests in Iran.

"The US reaction to the letter showed it has no logic," he said.

Ahmadinejad, in his letter to Bush, suggested new ways for solving the two countries' differences and also spoke of the current tense situation in the world and proposed avenues for easing tensions.

Asefi said, "A letter written from a weak position runs counter to Iran's dignity. President Ahmadinejad's letter written from a position of strength.

"The letter pointed to the US wrong policies and stressed that Washington should change its policies."

http://www.irna.ir/e...

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 1:15 PM

Foehammer,

That's great!

You've probably already got the MP3 of Mike Reagan's interview with Robert. But just in case you missed it - and for anyone who did - here it is:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011351.php

Posted by: Yojimbo at May 14, 2006 1:17 PM

islam can never take my freedom.JESUS made sure of that.

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 1:23 PM

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/715651.html

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 1:30 PM

By Aseel Kami and Mussab Al-Khairalla

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Bombs killed 30 people in Baghdad on Sunday and sectarian attacks wrecked six Shi'ite shrines in a rural area, adding to pressure on Iraq's rival leaders to agree on the formation of a unity government.

With a week left for Prime Minister-designate Nuri al-Maliki to meet a constitutional deadline to present a broad-based coalition Washington hopes will avert a slide toward civil war, a series of blasts hit Baghdad. Two suicide bombers in cars killed 14 Iraqis at the entrance to Baghdad airport.

Violence also flared in southern Iraq where two British soldiers were killed in a roadside bomb attack in Basra, Iraq's second city. Last week, a British military helicopter came down there, possibly hit by a rocket, killing five troops and sparking clashes between British forces and militias.

U.S. and Iraqi officials have said the leader of al Qaeda in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, is stepping up a campaign to target majority Shi'ites in and around Baghdad in an attempt to provoke retaliatory attacks against minority Sunnis, dominant under Saddam Hussein, and ignite all-out sectarian warfare.

There were more signs of factional wrangling over key posts delaying the formation of the government. Maliki, a Shi'ite Islamist, has repeatedly expressed confidence he would put together a cabinet of Shi'ites, Sunni Arabs and Kurds well within his 30-day deadline. He is now running it close.

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 1:34 PM

U.S. and Iraqi officials have said the leader of al Qaeda in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, is stepping up a campaign to target majority Shi'ites in and around Baghdad in an attempt to provoke retaliatory attacks against minority Sunnis, dominant under Saddam Hussein, and ignite all-out sectarian warfare.
(or a crude nuke from iran,with our troops right in the line of fire.that would bring on the chaos iran wants for the return of the hidden imam)

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 1:42 PM

Foehammer,

What I find most interesting about that document is that it sites the real number of Muslims in the US 2.5 mil not the phony number of 7 mil sited by CAIR and other Islamic groups.

Posted by: Roxane at May 14, 2006 1:55 PM

Top Islamic Jihad member killed in Jenin

Just released for publication: One of the armed Palestinians killed today in Qabatiyeh, near Jenin, is Elias Ashkar, the top member of the Islamic Jihad terror group in northern Samaria.

Ashkar was responsible for many terror attacks, preparing explosive devices and explosive belts as well as disseminating them to suicide bombers. He was also involved in the terror attack in Tel Aviv's old central bus station a month ago. (Efrat Weiss)

THERE IS JUSTICE IN THE WORLDYnetnews.com

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 1:58 PM

Israel is not in a separate box labelled ‘land dispute’ but is in the same box that the west is in which is labelled ‘jihad against the free world’, and that the hatred of the Jews that is central to the Arab and Muslim world is at the very heart of the jihad against the west, is undermining its own ability to defend itself against that threat.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22443

Posted by: Yojimbo at May 14, 2006 1:58 PM

As for the letter from Hamas, I hope no one especially in Isreal takes it seriously.When have the "Palestininans" ever kept their word or honored any agreement? The "Palestinians" like other Muslims never honor any agreement.Offers of truce or "peace" from Muslims are offered when Muslims are weak and can and will be broken by Muslims at any time.In this case Hamas needs to offer "peace" to obtain badly needed welfare checks (aka aid money) once the money is flowing again the "peace" agreement will be quickly broken.

Posted by: Roxane at May 14, 2006 2:01 PM

This is a good example of common sense being taken over by blinded idiots. Soon after Arafat stepped forward the EU, UN, and the US should have taken out Arafat and said “this is the end of it - no more.” All the Arab states have plenty of unoccupied land that each one can donate to establish a Palestinian State and that is final!!!

This an absolute Joke!!! Who in their right mind would even consider a proposal written by a bunch of terrorists!!! Then to go it one better - Terrorists in prison, no less!!!??? What a bunch of criminals - the whole lot!!!

Common sense without an education is better than
An education without common sense.

Posted by: THSIMJ at May 14, 2006 2:05 PM

Yojimbo, thanks for that.

Posted by: Celsius at May 14, 2006 2:20 PM

"That the government may be secretly collecting, and using data mining to analyze the phone records of millions of law-abiding Americans, as reported in the press today, is a frightening prospect. ... It is time for the administration to come clean with Congress and the American people," thundered Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., a member of the Judiciary Committee.

"A frightening prospect?" What is FRIGHTENING is the indelible images of Americans covered with concrete dust fleeing the collapse of the World Trade Center. And that there are people out there actively planning to do it again.

(Now, THAT'S "a frightening prospect"! That the NSA has a computer analyzing my calling patterns doesn't even crack the level of 'boring'.)

hal lindsey

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 2:42 PM

"He who gives up liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security."-Ben Franklin

Posted by: patriot4 at May 14, 2006 2:53 PM

All hail King Bush!!!!

seems like every other week HE takes more liberty with OUR liberty's.Next he will be askin congress to let him be perminent President,but just till "The War on terror" is over.

Posted by: patriot4 at May 14, 2006 2:56 PM

Maybe bush is the re-incarnation of King goerge,and he wants HIS states back.

Posted by: patriot4 at May 14, 2006 3:00 PM

Ahmadinejad and his ministers signed a treaty with the Hidden Imam and they asked Saar Harandi, the Minister of Culture, to hand over the treaty to the Hidden Imam by throwing a copy of the Treaty down the well in Jamkaran. In the second session of the Council of Ministers, Rahmati, the Minister of Roads and Transportation said: 'due to the high amount of donations to Jamkaran, we do not need to set aside a governmental budget for construction of the Tehran-Jamkaran railway.' Ahmadinejad answered him with anger: 'we have not come [to power] for democracy. We are here to prepare the way for the emergence of the Hidden imam http://www.iranian.w...

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 3:12 PM

They claim to be chosen as the companions of the Hidden Imam and at least some of them are among the 313 special persons or even the 10 prominent persons that will fight along with the Hidden Imam.,
- They claim that the Hidden Imam has given presents to some of them...
- They claim that they get the solution of the problems from the Hidden Imam
- They believe that the Hidden Imam will appear in the next couple of years?they have established organizations to find the proper persons for fighting along the army of the Hidden Imam...
- They claim to be protected by the Hidden Imam...(WHY MAHMOUND IS NOT SCARED OF AMERICA OR ITS NUKES)

Posted by: storagemanager at May 14, 2006 3:18 PM

we've been in this movie before. What can help is rational criticism of politicians and journalists in the West who are inclined to act like naive fools, and to also criticize Israel's government ministers of today who are not all as tightly wrapped as they should be.
Ofir Piness, Amir Peretz, Olmert of course, Yuli Tamir, and young Mrs Livni who is still learning how to find on the globe all those countries that Israel has relations with through her ministry, Foreign Affairs. Don't allow her or Olmert or Condi or W any presumption of common sense or decency. They all should be criticized by name. And their qualifications to decide anything should likewise be criticized.

Posted by: Eliyahu at May 14, 2006 3:55 PM

Remember Dr.Mohammad Elmasry , he got away with stating on a TV show that "All israelis over 18 are valid targets for murder by suicide bombers.

Just when I thought he couldn't get any more ignorant for his recent comment on the crusades and his attack on Jews and Christians as more muderous than Muslims, Elmasry's CIC website posted these informed responses by peaceful moderate Muslims that emailed him to affirm his version of history.

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Re: HISTORY SHOWS JEWS AND CHRISTIANS KILLED MORE MUSLIMS THAN MUSLIMS KILLED JEWS AND CHRISTIANS By Dr. Mohamed Elmasry

A very well written piece Professor; though I would like to have seen footnotes on the statistics (like 90% of Jews in the modern age support Zionism) so I could use them as references myself. It was a compelling article nonetheless. Continue telling the truth with such an eloquent, reasoned voice.
Thank you.
Salaam.
Nazim Haqqani
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Re: HISTORY SHOWS JEWS AND CHRISTIANS KILLED MORE MUSLIMS THAN MUSLIMS KILLED JEWS AND CHRISTIANS By Dr. Mohamed Elmasry

You should have also mentioned that Christians are the main murderers of Jews. Hitler single-handedly snuffed o ut the lives of six-million Jews. Let's not forget Stalin as well. Both were Christians. During the time of Jesus (Isa alaihi salam) ... the Roman government set off to kill all of the first-born Jews.
Raswadi
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Re: HISTORY SHOWS JEWS AND CHRISTIANS KILLED MORE MUSLIMS THAN MUSLIMS KILLED JEWS AND CHRISTIANS By Dr. Mohamed Elmasry
It bothers me to see people referring to the Roman Catholic Church as "Christian." The RCC is the largest cult on the face of the planet and has nothing to do with Christian doctrine.
With your interest in history, I would encourage you to watch the series of videos at the following link:
http://www.amazingfacts.org/items/storacle_lessons.asp?tTitle=Millennium%20of%20Prophecy
Regards,
Mike
[Editor's note: For the purposes of the article in question, it was appropriate to refer to the Church of Rome as Christian, particularly during pre-Reformation periods when it was the central (but not only) body of Christian authority. This does not contradict the fact that Roman Catholicism has come under much investigative criticism in recent decades -- much of it long overdue and well-deserved.]
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Re: HISTORY SHOWS JEWS AND CHRISTIANS KILLED MORE MUSLIMS THAN MUSLIMS KILLED JEWS AND CHRISTIANS By Dr. Mohamed Elmasry

I liked this article -- as far as it goes -- but I wondered why you did not go further back.
I know many Christians who have, for example, forgotten the Crusades. The British have forgotten their occupations of Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. I suspect that if you went further back, the figures would be even more lop- sided. The battles were always in the Middle East, not in England or Germany. If you looked only at non-combatant casualties, wouldn't the figures be even worse?
I am no historian, but picking an arbitrary starting date, the creation of Israel seems wrong to me. I don't have the numbers, but I wonder what they would be.
I have been in casual conversations where the person on the other side made remarks like "Christianity is a peaceful religion..." When I remind them of some of those very old invasions, they start to think.

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Read them at the site below
* http://www.canadianislamiccongress.com/

Posted by: ala-sux at May 14, 2006 5:17 PM

Israel failed to consolidate its 1967 victory by expelling the Muslim fifth column in its midst.

Since then, what else can they expect?

Conquered territory is not thought of by anyone in history as "occupied" unless it is not considered conquered.

By behaving as if they were "occupiers" and not victors, Israel set themselves up for an endless war over this "disputed territory".

I don't understand their mentality in this at all.

Posted by: profitsbeard at May 14, 2006 6:14 PM

Roxanne:

Yes, I also found that curious that the 6-7 million Muslim figure we always hear was put down by the U.S. Army as being attributed to "North America" and not just the United States.

To everyone else:

I have made good on my promise today and posted 4 different MP3 format interviews, one even including the illustrious Robert Spencer himself.

Hopefully I'm off to a good start. I'll be adding a permanent link to the pseudo-podcast on my blog very soon. Expect to see an animated icon in the top left corner of my pages.

Enjoy.

Foehammer

Posted by: Foehammer at May 14, 2006 6:49 PM

http://www.foehammer.net/2006/05/not-podcasting-but-next-best-thing.html

Posted by: Foehammer at May 14, 2006 6:50 PM

The only real peace will occur when Hamas ceases to exist.

Posted by: Dumbo at May 14, 2006 7:37 PM

Gives us back this land and we, Hamas, will live in peace with you o' Israel until we want more land.

Posted by: Texican at May 14, 2006 10:31 PM

Speaking of the opportunities resulting from the SixDay War, it was specifically the unspeakable "leftist" Moshe Dayan who made strenuous efforts to persuade Arabs not to leave at that time.

Btw, Dayan was not in the army during the war, he was the defense minister who was only appointed a few weeks before the war began. He was not responsible for training and organizing the army.

Posted by: Eliyahu at May 16, 2006 6:42 AM