Honestly, this whole thing is getting pretty crazy. The people in charge in this world don't make any sense, it's all just one big game. Except that in this game, people die...

Posted by: Erik at May 17, 2006 10:07 AM

.""Do you think you are dealing with a 4-year-old child to whom you can give some walnuts and chocolates and get gold from him?" Ahmadinejad added, according to The Associated Press.

The condescending Eurabians may well think they are dealing with a child. The rest of us know we are dealing with a genocidal madman.

Posted by: Howard, Fine & Howard at May 17, 2006 10:12 AM

.""Do you think you are dealing with a 4-year-old child to whom you can give some walnuts and chocolates and get gold from him?"

thats pretty insulting to ANY 4 yr old.

Posted by: patriot4 at May 17, 2006 10:13 AM

I know if we ignore him, he won't go away. But I think he should be ignored. He doesn't deserve the attention he is getting.

He is a dangerous man and the west is stupid trying to make deals with him. All calls from him should be unanswered.

By now he must think he is one of the world's great leaders who has everyone on the hop. Tragic!!

There are few trouble spots in the world where islam isn't invoved - eg The Solomon Islands perhaps.

We should stop all communication, and as someone before me said stop selling them food. How important will their oil be then?

This is intolerable. There is no website I have seen lately that has anything positive to say about our future.

Posted by: Gramfan at May 17, 2006 10:15 AM

This is no surprise.

I think the EC offer has been used to smoke him out. Ahmadinejad has no intention of conceding his goal of achieving a nuclear weapons capability.

This rejection now justifies an end to any further attempts at accommodation.

Pre-emption may now be the only cure.

Posted by: Turbinehead at May 17, 2006 10:15 AM

Do you think you are dealing with a 4-year-old child?

By no means. I like four-year-old children.

I think it must take years and years, and hours and hours of Islamic indoctrination, for anyone to become as twisted as Ahadinejad.

Posted by: Yojimbo at May 17, 2006 10:25 AM

Time for us to issue our own Fatwa

Posted by: GrimReaperxxx at May 17, 2006 10:27 AM

From the article:

"Do you think you are dealing with a 4-year-old child?"

IMHO I think we are dealing with a 4 year old child that should be wearing a football helmet, even though he doesn't play the game. His fantasy/reality wall has crumbled.

I also concur with Turbinehead that this was used to smoke him out.

Posted by: ShortBoard Surfer at May 17, 2006 10:32 AM

I agree with Turbinehead.

Posted by: Daffersd at May 17, 2006 11:15 AM

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19170907-601,00.html

This article is very good. I hope the International community takes note:
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Editorial: Tell Tehran to stop
May 18, 2006
But Iran will not easily abandon its nuclear ambitions

IN confronting Iran's nuclear program, it seems US President George W. Bush has finally grasped a lesson from another Republican, 26th president Theodore Roosevelt, who believed in speaking softly while carrying a big stick. At this stage of the confrontation, it makes much more sense to pressure the Iranian regime through diplomatic means and the financial sanctions the US is planning than to make military threats that are a matter of last resort. It may ultimately come to such a standoff if – or when – Iran builds a bomb. But there is a long way to go down the diplomatic road before any such extraordinary option is considered. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is talking very loudly while carrying no stick at all. If push came to shove, the US would easily overwhelm Iran's air defences. And Mr Ahmadinejad's talk of Iran's right to nuclear energy, like his threats against Israel, is largely for domestic consumption, part of a plan to consolidate his power by appealing to the electorate and thus make him independent of the conservative clerics who supervise his Government. Iran's oil and gas reserves mean Mr Ahmadinejad's talk of its need for atomic energy is code for nuclear weapons, but irritating the Americans and abusing Israel plays well at home.

But there is no denying Mr Ahmadinejad is in a strong diplomatic position, as long as he does not push the US too far or convince the Israelis that Iran would use a nuclear weapon against them. As with Saddam Hussein's Iraq, the United Nations is again reduced to irrelevance by the refusal of Security Council members to stand up to a rogue state, with Russia and China playing footsie with the Iranians to suit their own economic interests. The way UN trade sanctions against Iraq were comprehensively corrupted ensures there is no support for using them against Tehran. In any case, worldwide reliance on Iranian oil makes unlikely any attempt to stop the country's energy exports. If Mr Ahmadinejad sticks to his script – that he only wants nuclear energy for peaceful purposes – and if the Security Council continues to be incapable of ordering him to abandon nuclear work, he may decide he is untouchable and can build whatever he likes, including a bomb.

But Mr Bush and his active allies, Australia among them, are not powerless in the face of this thuggery. Financial sanctions do not sound all that serious, but they will alarm economically literate Iranians who understand what their country will lose if it becomes an outlaw economy unable to invest overseas or seek investment from abroad. And while Iran is an authoritarian state that subjects its people to theocratic rule, Mr Ahmadinejad cannot afford to alienate public opinion by isolating the nation in pursuit of a nuclear plan designed to prop up his political position. By moving cautiously, Mr Bush will also encourage support for his stance against Tehran. A financial sanctions plan will certainly stop Russia and China claiming the US is escalating the problem and vetoing action in the Security Council. And while Mr Ahmadinejad likes to talk tough, the prospect of exclusion from worldwide financial markets – followed, with luck, by some sort of censure from the Security Council – is no small thing. Australia does not have a major role to play in any financial sanctions plan but it is important we are seen to support the US and encourage as many countries as possible to sign up to the strategy. And no other nation in the Middle East will easily accept a nuclear-armed Iran. As well as Israel, Iran's Sunni Muslim neighbours would worry if the Shia state had the bomb. Of course, these sanctions, and whatever follows, will not put an end to the Iranian nuclear program if Mr Ahmadinejad does not mind making his country a pariah state by building a bomb in defiance of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which binds Iran. The possibility that Mr Bush or his successor will need to wave the big stick of military action is still a way off. But it could occur.

Posted by: Gramfan at May 17, 2006 11:26 AM

Now is the time to really start worrying: Iran to offer incentives to Europe for recognizing nuclear right

Needless to say, the 'For Sale' sign is, and has been, on.

Posted by: Eg at May 17, 2006 11:37 AM

"
This article is very good. I hope the International community takes note: "
It worries me if you think this article is very good.
It smacks of complacency and completely underestimates the Iranian Islamic president.
IF NOT STOPPED MILITARILY he will have a nuclear bomb probably within 2 years or maybe even earlier.
It reminds me of the thirties - the same old inability of all these so called analysts to see what is right in front of them - they play their little games and spin their little webs but they just dont get it that the Iranian president is not playing the same game!!

Posted by: johnmac at May 17, 2006 11:44 AM

Walnuts grow into trees that can produce agricultural wealth and local shade for decades, and chocolate has many anti-oxidant effects for one's health, while gold is an inert metal that has little intrinsic value other than for electronics soldering and space helmet glazing.

Or is Mahmoud refering to his brain-size with the walnut metaphor? And choclate to his intellectual incontinence?

His depth is far beyond a four year old.

Five, at least.

Posted by: profitsbeard at May 17, 2006 12:15 PM

No Maddinnerjacket it is obvious that we are not dealing with a four year old. Even four year olds comprehend that their actions can lead to punishment.

It is plainly obvious that we are dealing with a psychotic mystic. Who's Armageddon fantasies are going to pull the entire region and possibly world into war.

Lets just get it overwith.

Posted by: km at May 17, 2006 12:22 PM

He has already issued a Da'wa on behalf of Iran.

War has been declared, the "leaders" in the west just won't admit it.

And he already has a nuke, or is close to completing one ... he would not have emmitted that da'wa otherwise.

Posted by: Kristopher at May 17, 2006 12:32 PM

Maddinnerjacket

That's a really good way to remember his name, which is otherwise very unmemorable.

Why can't everyone have a name like Verdonk?

Posted by: Interested at May 17, 2006 12:32 PM

Armagedonajad's latest offer to the EU is truly telling of the impending collapse of europe.

When a madman can start telling the combined EU nations that Iran will give concessions to them, the game is just about up.

Posted by: Dead Infidel Walking at May 17, 2006 12:49 PM

No. But I am under the suspicion we are dealing with a crackpot, delusional moonbat.

Posted by: DesertDawgN29 at May 17, 2006 12:59 PM

"Do you think you are dealing with a four-year old child"

Ahmad -- you've managed to lower your own status by equating yourself with a child -- so the answer is "YES", you ARE a child!

Posted by: champ at May 17, 2006 1:03 PM

Dead Infidel Walking...keep walkin dude...don't fall down.

Europe and USA are at one on this.

Good cop...bad cop.

Recognise the routine?

Posted by: Turbinehead at May 17, 2006 1:07 PM

I'd surely savor having 5 minutes alone with that short little shithead in a ring with some gloves....or Smith and Wesson.

Posted by: Siciliano at May 17, 2006 2:43 PM

someone will take this guy out within the next 2 years, guaranteed

Posted by: fleeze at May 17, 2006 2:47 PM

Are the Europeans so desperate for oil that the would do this? If so then the petroleum supplies in the world may be in worse shape then anyone imagines.

But wait... There could be another explanation. European greed and hubris is so great that they would sell their future so they could as the French put it, "determine their own future" and counter U.S. domination of world politics and economics.

I cannot fathom how short-sighted and ignorant of history the European leaders are. Furthermore, the majority of the European public is so PC one could tell them almost anything if they were first shown heartstring pulling documentaries.

Many of my European friends are totally blind to what is happening in Europe. They refuse to believe that Islam is a problem. Is all this a product of the Second World War and the social climate of aversion to violence and fear of another global conflict?

Ahmadinejad is dangerous. Make no mistake about it. He is definitely interested in being a thorn in the side of the U.S. I also believe that he is attempting a play being a major player in world politics. Consider his recent moves to align with Castro, Chavez and Morales. This is designed to put petro pressure on the U.S. The worst case scenario is the possibility of a foothold for missionary Islam in Latin America.

Posted by: detocquevilledisciple at May 17, 2006 3:03 PM

This news coming out of Iran just gets worser and worser!

Ahmad is thumbing his nose at the West. The theory that he is doing all this for domestic consumption, that he is appeasing his internal critics, or appealing to the masses, is just a lot of crap.

He has issued his da'wa, and he is proceeding with his plan. He wants a nuclear weapon, and he is not going to stop with the atomic bomb. That's just the trigger for the Big One, the Hydrogen bomb. Thermonuclear.

Meanwhile, Ahmad is cozying up to Chavez in Venezuela, because he knows another American-hater when he sees one. He has an ally in our hemisphere, and he will use that friend to get to us. Chavez is talking about selling his older F-16's to Iran, in violation of the original sales agreement. Nice, huh?

Venezuela, Bolivia, and now Equador are nationalizing oil interests, pensions funds invested in oil companies, and so forth. Oil is at near record highs, so those socialist economies have some cover for the gross mis-management that is coming. When the American and British are kicked out or give up and go, the local idiots will ruin things quickly. Iran will offer to send it's seasoned personnel to help. Glory be! What a deal.

Some of those "workers", disguised as latino's, may even be given Venezuelan passports, and, well, you tell me how hard it will be to smuggle those dudes into the USA. May even run them through CITGO, bring them down through Canada on employment visas.

Back in neverland, Ahmad will continue to develop the bomb. Yes, he will have it in less than two years. He is enriching uranium very quickly.

The propaganda about peaceful use is just typical horseshit. At prices less than about $8.00 per million BTU for natural gas, nuclear power is not economically competitive. And the plants cost several times as much to build (and take longer to build) than gas-fired plants. Iran has huge quantities of natural gas, much of which is being flared rather than used.

The real key question is this: Where are the peaceful nuclear plants that are going to use Iran's peacefully produced peaceful nuclear fuel?? The plants should be at least half-way finished by now, or IRAN WILL NOT HAVE ANY PEACEFUL USE for the enriched uranium it is rushing to produce.

So, what does it mean when the EU talks about providing Iran with a light-water reactor? Isn't that a clue that Iran does not yet have one? And, further, that it is not building one? The answer is that the offer means that Iran is working on a heavy-water reactor, or a breeder-reactor, which produce additional radioactive fuel. The EU's offer is a feeble attempt to slow things down, after having recognized that Iran will not be stopped.

Our politicians are as spellbound as a mouse in front of a cobra. Paralyzed. The cobra knows exactly what is going on. So does the mouse, but it cannot or will not act.

If you think this is all crazy now, just wait. As they say at the rodeo: You ain't seen nothin' yet.

Posted by: texan at May 17, 2006 3:06 PM

Ahmadinejad: "Do you think you are dealing with a 4-year-old child?"

My mother used to say, "if you're going to act like a child, you'll be treated that way".

Mmmhmmmmmm.

Posted by: freewoman at May 17, 2006 3:37 PM

This madman in Iran has threatened Israel and the United States more times than I can count. He is deadset on gaining nuclear weapons. Iran is a known exporter of Islamic terror. Iran is under an Islamic mullocracy. What else do we need to talk about?

Ahmadinejad should be thanking Allah that I'm not President of the United States. The missiles would already have been in the air and he would be dead.

Posted by: Foehammer at May 17, 2006 4:51 PM

"Our politicians are as spellbound as a mouse in front of a cobra"

Awesome analogy!! What is Bush waiting for??

Posted by: champ at May 17, 2006 4:59 PM

**Foehammer for President**

He will put the smack-down on Iran!!

Posted by: champ at May 17, 2006 5:02 PM

Hell, that would just be the warmup round. Mexico would be sweating.

Posted by: Foehammer at May 17, 2006 5:03 PM

Light-water reactors are more difficult to use in the development of weapons than are heavy-water plants that produce more nuclear material.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at May 17, 2006 5:55 PM

"Do you think you are dealing with a 4-year-old child?"

As a matter of fact, yes. And as our illustrious senator, Hillary Clinton, is fond of saying,

Keep guns out of the hands of children!.

Posted by: Caroline at May 17, 2006 6:50 PM

.""Do you think you are dealing with a 4-year-old child to whom you can give some walnuts and chocolates and get gold from him?" Ahmadinejad added.
++++++++++++++

Yes an insance four year old that wants nukes and will use nukes.

Posted by: Texican at May 17, 2006 6:58 PM

detocquevilledisciple asks: "Many of my European friends are totally blind to what is happening in Europe. They refuse to believe that Islam is a problem. Is all this a product of the Second World War and the social climate of aversion to violence and fear of another global conflict?"

Dr. Claire Berlinski has the most lucid explanation for the sickness that afflicts modern Europe:

"The failure of European experiments in Utopianism—which not only failed to provide the promised paradise but indeed gave rise to the most criminal regimes ever inflicted on the human race—has left Europeans paralyzed by shame and self-doubt. They have retreated into a kind of cocoon of technological and physical comfort; they bathe themselves in vapid clichés about “tolerance.” It would be almost unimaginable, for example, for a European politician to say of Islamic radicalism, “this is an unspeakably evil belief system and we must fight it to our last breath.” Unfortunately, not much short of that kind of resolve is of much use when you’re in a battle against what is, indeed, an unspeakably evil belief system.

"Another important point is that Europe is now dominated by powerful bureaucracies. Societies dominated by bureaucracies give rise to particular habits of thought. Entry into every single EU position, for example, is based on an endless series of competitive examinations, and Europe’s leaders are bred of young Europeans who want nothing more than to pass those examinations. The governing class of Europeans, produced by exactly the same elite schools and competitive examinations, is bureaucratic, anti-entrepreneurial, and risk-averse.

"So, for example, I once overheard a conversation in a Madrid coffee house between two young woman, bright students, I guessed, in their early 20s. One was apparently poised to accept a lifetime sinecure in Brussels, where she would participate in the administration of the Common Agricultural Policy. She would be a cow expert, if I understood correctly. She was among the majority of Spaniards who placed the blame for the terrorist attack on the Atocha train station not on the terrorists but on the United States. What does this woman want from life? The answer, evident from her conversation with her friend, was that above all, she wants stability. Like many young Europeans, she is completely risk-averse. The social structure that best represents this state of mind is the bureaucracy—a kind of a machine in action. But when everyone in society lives in a machine, everyone loses the ability to perceive the kind of danger that threatens the machine as a whole."

http://tinyurl.com/zwhy8

Posted by: Steven L. at May 17, 2006 7:36 PM

"Do you think you are dealing with a 4-year-old child?" well the EU are the ones acting like the 4 year old child! when will they take Iranina thugs killers at their words!

Posted by: Lulu at May 17, 2006 10:19 PM

"Do you think you are dealing with a 4-year-old child to whom you can give some walnuts and chocolates and get gold from him?" Ahmadinejad added

What a stupid rhetorical question!

Posted by: Johnathan at May 17, 2006 10:55 PM

Jonathan-

You have to wonder where Iranian 4 year olds get gold.

(I would guess the same place the Iranian leaders get their brains.)

Posted by: profitsbeard at May 18, 2006 12:49 AM

Leprechauns / pot of gold....LOL!!!!!

Posted by: champ at May 18, 2006 1:42 AM

Just in case there is anyone left who doesn't think Pat Buchanan is completely deranged, he wrote a column in fulsome adoration of the Iranian madman:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/14582504.htm

Posted by: Gary Rosen at May 18, 2006 1:57 AM

"Do you think you are dealing with a 4-year-old child to whom you can give some walnuts and chocolates and get gold from him?"

I think that sums it up really. We are dealing with a man that thinks that if you give walnuts and chocolate to a 4 year old you will get gold from them. How does he think they make it? He should stop thinking about giving sweeties to little children and concentrate on the problem in hand. Kiddy fiddling fool. :)

Posted by: DaveMate at May 18, 2006 7:57 AM

Sent 'em peanut Khadr. He will fix it! Don't ask me how, but he always has the answer to everything...

If that doesn't work, sent Clitman to the front!
Clitman will not fix anything, but at least you can see him on CNN again, telling you its all because of poverty & AIDS!

If all fails, sent Mohammed al Baradei. He will tell you the "Iranians have a right to have the bomb"-

If your not happy with that, we can always sent Annan.

Annan will not fix anything, but at least you can see him on TV again, telling you there is nothing to worry about...

I better go to bed before I start worrying....

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at May 18, 2006 8:39 AM

The Europeans need to watch more cowboy movies. Just about every cowboy tale is a principled morality play.

I especially like the dialog in the movie "Tombstone." I think we could adapt some of that dialog to the current situation in Iran:

The players:

Wyatt Earp "Dubya" Bush.

Condoleeza "Doc Holliday" Rice.

Johnny "Ringo" Ahmadinejad.

The scene: A secret diplomatic meeting between Iran and the United States, on a remote island.

Dubya (aside): "What drives a man like Ringo, Doc? What makes him do the things he does?"

Doc: "A man like Ringo has got a great empty hole right through the middle of himself. And he can never kill enough, or steal enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it."

Dubya: "What does he want?"

Doc: "Revenge."

Dubya: "Revenge for what?"

Doc: "for bein' born."

Ringo, to Wyatt: "I want your blood. And I want your soul. And I want them both right now!"

Dubya, to Ringo: "Go ahead! Skin that smoke wagon and let's see what happens!"

Posted by: Stendec at May 18, 2006 2:13 PM

No, more like a retarded monkey (no offense meant to monkeys).

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at May 18, 2006 11:37 PM

Ahmadinejad: "Do you think you are dealing with a 4-year-old child?"

Yes Ahmadinejad, we agree you are infantile.

Posted by: Frank at May 19, 2006 12:06 PM